[00:10] <teo_> Hi
[00:10] <teo_> i have ubuntu 15:10 and would like to have silverlight
[00:11] <teo_> I installed pipeline  and enabled silverlight5.1 but dont work
[00:11] <OerHeks> install google chrome for flash with drm support, like netflix and such
[00:11] <teo_> so enabled silverlight 5.0 and still dont work after restart FF
[00:12] <teo_> google chrome for flash?
[00:12] <burdickjp> I'm in the process of starting an unpriveleged gentoo container. It's not connecting the containers virtual interface to the client side vlan. I don't have an /etc/lxc/lxc.conf to see what ubuntu was using for defaults for this. Can someone paste their /etc/lxc/lxc.conf?
[00:13] <pkircher> anyone had problems with a p400 raid controller and ubuntu 15-10 ?
[00:14] <yigal> teo_: https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/flash-player-google-chrome.html#main_How_do_I_install_the_latest_version_of_Flash_Player_in_Google_Chrome_
[00:14] <OerHeks> teo_, yes, that is the only solution that works for me
[00:14] <bozkurt> Hi
[00:15] <OerHeks> no need for installing flash in chrome.. it uses pepperflash
[00:17] <yigal> OerHeks: yes one can install Pepper Flash without Chrome but then it's making sure that the browser one is using, is using it
[00:18] <yigal> e.g. chromium
[00:19] <OerHeks> correct, though that peperflashplugininstaller downloads chrome to get the ppapi, funny solution for chrome.
[00:19] <teo_> so what should do?
[00:19] <teo_> i want use FF
[00:19] <OerHeks> i moved away from firefox, just for these flash issues.
[00:20] <pkircher> reboot time .. lets see if that damn raidcontroller likes me this time .. >.>
[00:20] <artois> you can use "pepper" flash with Firefox if you want
[00:20] <artois> Flash issues are Flash issues
[00:21] <teo_> how I can install? apritude install peperflash?
[00:21] <teo_> I must enable it in any way?
[00:22] <yigal> teo_: yes, for Firefox you can use the Pipelight project, or through this project https://github.com/i-rinat/freshplayerplugin
[00:22] <teo_> yigal, what is better?
[00:23] <yigal> teo_: Pipelight uses an emulation, Wine, to use the latest Adobe Flash Plugin for Windows and well Fresh player uses Pepper
[00:23] <yigal> teo_: I just use Chrome tbh
[00:23] <teo_> yigal, what is better for FF? peper or pipeline? pipeline dont work on HBO Go
[00:23] <teo_> yigal, chromium have paper?
[00:24] <yigal> teo_: yes, Pipeline works for HBO but you have to mask the browser, this is very offtopic for #ubuntu however
[00:25] <altoidnerd> anyone know how to view the keybindings for the default WM in 14.04
[00:25] <teo_> yigal, mask browser? how?
[00:25] <yigal> altoidnerd: http://askubuntu.com/questions/575631/how-do-i-find-all-key-bindings-in-ubuntu-14-04
[00:26] <altoidnerd> yigal: thanks
[00:26] <yigal> altoidnerd: np
[00:26] <OerHeks> altoidnerd, systemsettings > keys, and hold <super> for a short list
[00:27] <catalase> do drives automatically unmount on reboot?
[00:27] <catalase> in 14.04 server lts
[00:27] <tomreyn> yes catalase
[00:27] <altoidnerd> OerHeks: Im using a weird keyboard, how can I find out what my keys are (which is super, etc)
[00:27] <catalase> thanks tomreyn
[00:28] <yigal> catalase: no, not unless they've been added to /etc/fstab or are part of automount
[00:28] <yigal> catalase: why, what are you attempting to set up?
[00:28] <catalase> yigal, the drive is added to /etc/fstab/ and has automount flag enabled
[00:28] <catalase> just wondering if my ext4 ext hdd is being auto-unmounted on sudo reboot
[00:29] <yigal> catalase: then yes, if things are set up properly it should
[00:29] <yigal> catalase: what happens if you issue 'sudo mount -a' after boot, if the drive doesn't mount automatically?
[00:30] <altoidnerd> OerHeks: because my keyboard is a 'mac keys' version, not sure what Alt key is
[00:30] <catalase> no idea, every time i reboot it automatically mounts yigal
[00:30] <yigal> catalase: so it does what it should, so what's the issue :)?
[00:30] <OerHeks> altoidnerd, i see, mac has no super or 'windows' key.
[00:30] <catalase> right, but the question is whether or not it automatically unmounts when reboot is issued via cli
[00:31] <catalase> since it is not good for the ext4 filesystem to not unmount before shutdown or reboot
[00:31] <altoidnerd> OerHeks: for me right now, 'command' is mapped to super, 'option' to alt
[00:31] <OerHeks> If you have an Apple keyboard, there will not be a Windows key on your keyboard. The ⌘ (Command) key can be used instead.
[00:31] <yigal> catalase: it will unmount on a normal reboot
[00:31] <catalase> great, thanks for confirmation yigal
[00:31] <yigal> catalase: you will want to look through the logs to verify this
[00:32] <yigal> catalase: cool
[00:32] <catalase> any idea which log to look through?
[00:32] <altoidnerd> OerHeks: just asking about the general case of using a strange keyboard, how to determine what keys are recogized as <super>, <alt>, <ctrl> <F1>, etc
[00:32] <yigal> catalase: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:32] <catalase> 14.04 lts server
[00:32] <yigal> catalase: I'm not certain but I suspect dmesg should have that info.
[00:33] <OerHeks> altoidnerd, the rest of the functions i don't know :-( there are mactel pages
[00:34] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard
[00:34] <jamie12> hey is there a specific channel for ubuntu phone?
[00:35] <artois> /msg alis list *ubunt*phone*
[00:35] <pkircher> as long as they keycode leaves the kb .. it will be recognized ..
[00:35] <artois> /msg alis list *ubunt*touch*
[00:35] <OerHeks> !touch
[00:35] <pkircher> thing is with internal keys aka meta / super / fn .. which are interpreted internaly in the kb
[00:35] <artois> altoidnerd: 'xev' will tell you what a key registers by default
[00:35] <pkircher> + also depends on the kb firmware
[00:35] <artois> altoidnerd: any key that registers at all can be mapped to another
[00:36] <artois> and there are one or two utils other than xev, if xev doesn't work
[00:36] <pkircher> @altoidnerd what kb are you using ?
[00:36] <pkircher> some custom mecha ?
[00:37] <altoidnerd> pkircher: it is a das keyboard
[00:37] <pkircher> ah its a straight pass throw no tmk stuff
[00:37] <yigal> altoidnerd: das I like it, I have one of those
[00:37] <pkircher> easy thenm
[00:37] <pkircher> -m
[00:37] <altoidnerd> yigal: its awesome
[00:37] <altoidnerd> i dont know why all the hate on unity.  I am really enjoying it right now on multiple displays
[00:38] <altoidnerd> thanks for the help this resolved everything
[00:38] <pkircher> displays >.> tmux!
[00:39] <pkircher> hah! solved my problem with the raid controller .. > boots just fine now ..
[00:39] <artois> altoidnerd: because it replaced GNOME 2 and isn't much like it
[00:39] <artois> mostly people didn't like the change from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3
[00:40] <Bashing-om> pkircher: :) When you are good, you are good !
[00:41] <altoidnerd> artois: I can understand that, but I think Unity is objectively the best option for the most use cases... if you park your pride and try to learn it
[00:42] <altoidnerd> Question:  <Alt>+<TAB> switches applications.  If you have more than one display, this happens on the display where the cursor is.  How can I do it for all displays?  Note i mean physics monitor, not "workspace"
[00:42] <altoidnerd> physical * display
[00:42] <artois> altoidnerd: unity is fine, it's just the drastic change people didn't like
[00:43] <artois> it also didn't help that they didn't realize the bulk of drastic change was in GNOME
[00:43] <pkircher> ya UI changes are hard on users
[00:43] <pkircher> .. breaks habbits
[00:43] <artois> so you got strange things like people moving from Ubuntu with Unity (GNOME 3) to Linux Mint (Ubuntu) with Cinnamon (GNOME 3 reconfigured in a way that can also be done on Ubuntu)
[00:44] <pkircher> im still a kde fan for what its worth .. if i have to have a ui
[00:44] <artois> yeah... KDE does drastic changes, too
[00:44] <artois> perhaps not as awfully as GNOME manages, however
[00:44] <raidr> Hey, has anyone here got any experience with setting up RAID after an install?
[00:44] <artois> raidr: what do you want raid for?
[00:45] <pkircher> raidr: softraid ?
[00:45] <pkircher> or via controller ?
[00:45] <raidr> I want to set up RAID1/softraid
[00:45] <pkircher> you gotta do that before
[00:45] <altoidnerd> pkircher: i have used lots of good options.  I try not to decide i hate something and have a bad attitude ... instead just use it and get on with life, knowing how to help oneself is key
[00:46] <altoidnerd> pkircher: do you know how to make keybindings like <alt>+<TAB> not care which display my cursor is on?
[00:46] <raidr> I have managed to partially set up RAID1 so far but I am having some issues
[00:46] <pkircher> altoidnerd: server moron here ..
[00:46] <pkircher> all i have is bash / sh most of the time
[00:47] <artois> well that's what's great about free software
[00:47] <altoidnerd> pkircher:  i hear you, same here, thats why i dont know how to use this GUI
[00:47] <artois> you don't have to stop using any free software, ever
[00:47] <burdickjp>  I'm having trouble with LXC bridges. would someone be willing to walk me through getting a bridge set up
[00:47] <artois> you can potentially never have to relearn something new
[00:47] <artois> it's very efficient
[00:47] <altoidnerd> artois: conversely though
[00:48] <altoidnerd> artois: I never "learn" anything so much that its a habit I can't break easily.., makes life easier if you use multiple machines
[00:49] <raidr> Anyone use RAID with LUKS?
[00:49] <pkircher> mdadm
[00:49] <pkircher> :)
[00:50] <raidr> My issue is that the second drive will not boot up on its own
[00:50] <raidr> I have set up the array but I am not too sure that it has mirrored properly
[00:51] <pkircher> you start from /dev/md0
[00:51] <pkircher> so you gotta change grub ..
[00:51] <pkircher> or what ever bootloader you are using
[00:51] <raidr> I changed that in grub, boot up, none of my files are available
[00:52] <pkircher> ext4 ?
[00:52] <artois> altoidnerd: self reliance, or reliance on only the fundamentals, yes
[00:52] <raidr> root is ext4
[00:54] <altoidnerd> artois: yup.  between social outlets like here, or reddit, stackoverflow etc, and docs, you can usually find answers quickly if you know what youre asking
[00:55] <altoidnerd> artois: this should be the first thing new users of ubuntu are told
[00:55] <artois> oh yeah, be nice if children were educated properly :p
[00:56] <raidr> Is there something I need to do with the LUKS partitions? Do they need their own array?
[00:58] <altoidnerd> artois: I cant wait to have kids, but to give them their first computer with a base ubutu-server install and set them going
[00:58] <artois> altoidnerd: should make them build the computer and the OS
[00:58] <pkircher> just give them a rasperry pi / beagle bone black ..
[00:58] <pkircher> anyone played with hikey already ?
[00:59] <altoidnerd> artois: lol, this can go all day.  ubuntu-server is a realistic starting point but of course I could always make it crazier
[00:59] <pkircher> FPGA > have them design there own cpu :)
[00:59] <altoidnerd> artois: an image of arch linux, and a print out of the wiki
[01:00] <pkircher> no print needet .. all they need is learn how to read man pages
[01:00] <pkircher> .. its all in there
[01:00] <altoidnerd> pkircher: I disagree actually.  man pages help only when you already know *something*
[01:01] <artois> computer is just a magic box if you can't make your own =)
[01:01] <altoidnerd> pkircher: man pages are best when you already have experience with a program
[01:02] <altoidnerd> pkircher: to introduce a how command line tool works to somehow who has nebver used it - take for example "grep" - only examples help.  man pages just dont do a lot to tell someone what a fucntion basically does from a base level
[01:02] <altoidnerd> pkircher: a blog format works well
[01:03] <pkircher> probably .. i dont know my wee one is 5 ..
[01:03] <pkircher> so soon :> 2-3 years more
[01:03] <altoidnerd> pkircher: How are you going to handle internet access?  I dont have kids but I think about that
[01:04] <pkircher> i had internet access back then .. even if it was just 9k6 .. and extremly expensive
[01:04] <pkircher> but .. no point limiting it .. we are in the information age after all
[01:04] <altoidnerd> pkircher: true.  but is there nothing to worry about in this way - young childen can see images, etc that are not age appropriate
[01:05] <minitrue> hey, im trying to share an internet connection. but im having problems
[01:05] <pkircher> ofc but they can see that in school as well
[01:05] <pkircher> .. or on a phone
[01:05] <altoidnerd> pkircher: yeah.  totally different now from when i was a kid
[01:05] <pkircher> you cant fence everythin off .. unless you are a tinfoil guy
[01:05] <altoidnerd> minitrue: what is your question
[01:06] <minitrue> altoidnerd: i dont know how to enable forwarding in systemd
[01:06] <altoidnerd> pkircher: how about setting up a network at home and letting them use that first before they can go to www
[01:06] <pkircher> and ya .. its entierly different .. today 6-7 years old have a mobile ..
[01:06] <pkircher> and if they dont ..
[01:06] <pkircher> i was 14ish where i had a FAT alcatel brick
[01:07] <pkircher> ya .. i got the homenetwork anyway
[01:07] <virtuosoj> hello :)
[01:07] <minitrue> altoidnerd: i have a laptop wich is connected using wlan0 to internet, Im trying to forward the traffic to eth0
[01:07] <pkircher> .. lab here .. > 3 m1000e and a few brocade switches
[01:07] <minitrue> so i can send it to a router
[01:07] <pkircher> but that “new” hp server gives me a hard time
[01:08] <minitrue> and im using this guide as a reference https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Internet_sharing
[01:08] <virtuosoj> what DE do people here use? I'm currently running MATE but I'm interested in a more modern DE, I'm deciding between Unity and Gnome3
[01:08] <altoidnerd> minitrue: I have done it one second
[01:08] <altoidnerd> minitrue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/359856/share-wireless-internet-connection-through-ethernet
[01:08] <The_Letter_M> virtuosoj, I prefer Cinnamon or XFCE
[01:08] <minitrue> altoidnerd: thanks :)
[01:09] <virtuosoj> The_Letter_M, thank you but I don't consider those to be modern. maybe Cinnamon a little moreso
[01:09] <altoidnerd> minitrue: the arch wiki is always a little terse, if you're a non expert
[01:09] <virtuosoj> I've been starting to notice some buggy elements of MATE.  Mostly the panel and indicator icons
[01:10] <pkircher> arch wiki is superb .. special with systemd stuff
[01:10] <The_Letter_M> virtuosoj, at work my computer is really locked down but I'm allowed to have Vbox installed. I have a lot of tools in a Xubuntu VM buecause XFCE works great in a VM. At home I used Cinnamon on my personal computers
[01:10] <altoidnerd> pkircher: the home network is a cool idea.  lets you hack around and also saves the children from being deflowered
[01:10] <altoidnerd> pkircher:  the conundrum arises because you want the child to learn the computer as early as possible
[01:10] <virtuosoj> Cinnamon on Ubuntu or on Mint?
[01:10] <The_Letter_M> XFCE is very modern. Cinnamon is one of the most new of DEs
[01:10] <The_Letter_M> Ubuntu
[01:10] <pkircher> well yup ..
[01:10] <virtuosoj> Yes but featurewise, I consider the modern ones to be Gnome3, KDE, and Unity
[01:11] <virtuosoj> Cinnamon is a little more retro
[01:11] <pkircher> but .. lets move that to pm .. no conversation for a support channel
[01:11] <pkircher> :P
[01:11] <The_Letter_M> GNome and KDE are ancient. You should define what you mean by "Modern"
[01:11] <The_Letter_M> Cinnamon is a great blend of classic but with modern features
[01:11] <pkircher> retro is good ! .. i love retro ..
[01:11] <pkircher> even my keyboard is retro themed ..
[01:12] <raidr> No dice on any input for RAID1/LUKS/LVM?
[01:12] <virtuosoj> As in, 3D effects, new and fresh takes on window/workspace management
[01:12] <virtuosoj> features like dash or unified menu bar in Unity, or the overview in Gnome
[01:13] <virtuosoj> I don't really like KDE5 so far
[01:13] <pkircher> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ghqh3nxpqfssgm5/2015-11-26%2021.57.37.jpg?dl=0
[01:13] <pkircher> more retro love !
[01:13] <The_Letter_M> In XFCE you can set the panel to "Deskbar" and have it act like how the Unity bar does
[01:13] <dani__> hello my pretties
[01:14] <dani__> :>)
[01:14] <virtuosoj> :O that's really cool, thanks LetterM
[01:15] <virtuosoj> I have a question for anyone who uses Unity: A feature that I really like in MATE and Gnome3 is the ability to have a weather applet located in your top panel
[01:15] <virtuosoj> How do I get this in Unity?
[01:15] <minitrue> altoidnerd: hey, its working thanks, i really like the arch wiki but yes, sometimes can get a little harsh.
[01:15] <virtuosoj> I like looking at my comp and without clicking anything, I can see the temperature outside
[01:15] <The_Letter_M> Maybe I just like it because back int he day I used Fluxbox a lot and XFCE reminds me of a modern take on those super minimalistic DEs and WMs
[01:17] <virtuosoj> XFCE has weather in panel right?
[01:20] <virtuosoj> The_Letter_M, weather in XFCE?
[01:21] <Guest68558> ok
[01:22] <artois> virtuosoj: there's a plugin, yes
[01:23] <virtuosoj> I'm most likely not going to choose XFCE, I want more modern and featureful
[01:24] <virtuosoj> after hopping around and trying different things, I really liked Unity's functionality.
[01:24] <virtuosoj> the Unity Tweak Tool is really dope too, so much customization
[01:24] <The_Letter_M> virtuosoj, it sounds like you already have your mind made up
[01:25] <virtuosoj> haha maybe... I don't know if the distro hopping will stop
[01:25] <The_Letter_M> It happens
[01:25] <virtuosoj> I thought I was stuck on Ubuntu MATE but I have been noticing its flaws more
[01:25] <The_Letter_M> I do it sometimes too
[01:25] <artois> virtuosoj: it's 'Xfce'
[01:26] <artois> Xfce is nice, reliable
[01:26] <virtuosoj> The_Letter_M, what distro are you currently running?
[01:26] <The_Letter_M> I'll go through periods where I jump between Ubuntu, Fedora, and OpenSuse
[01:26] <virtuosoj> artois, you as well?
[01:26] <artois> it can do basically all the things KDE & GNOME do, but hasn't completely rewritten their codebase the way they have
[01:26] <artois> the way KDE/GNOME have
[01:26] <The_Letter_M> Right now I use Ubuntu at home
[01:26] <The_Letter_M> With Cinnamon installed
[01:27] <virtuosoj> I had a nice setup of opensuse tumbleweed with Gnome3, but I don't like YasT and Zypper as much as Software Center and Apt-get
[01:29] <tarcids> virtuosoj: what's wrong with yast
[01:29] <tarcids> virtuosoj: I always install synaptic
[01:29] <virtuosoj> Not as comfy to install/uninstall programs as Software Center
[01:29] <virtuosoj> I like synaptic better than yast but I prefer software center or terminal install
[01:29] <ghostinzshell> Are there any known fixes for NetworkManager not updating /etc/resolv.conf when using OpenVPN?
[01:29] <dani__> Gnome 3 is horrible
[01:29] <dani__> even worse than Unit
[01:29] <dani__> Unity
[01:29] <dani__> imh
[01:29] <The_Letter_M> I like Gnome Shell. I used it for a couple years. I still sometimes move my mouse to the top-left expecting my apps to show up
[01:31] <virtuosoj> Yes I also really like Gnome Shell
[01:31] <virtuosoj> the app overview is sweet, the only 2 DE's that do it this  well are Gnome3 and Elementary's Pantheon
[01:32] <ghostinzshell> The GNOME paradigm certainly takes some getting used to, but once you get used to it, it's pretty good.
[01:32] <virtuosoj> but I am not so keen on the vertically aligned workspaces, and I wish the panel was customizable. I can't move anything around
[01:32] <The_Letter_M> ghostinzshell, yes it is
[01:33] <virtuosoj> I don't have a left windows key(Steelseries mech keyboard).  But binding Ctrl + Space to app overview in Gnome 3 was really nice
[01:33] <ghostinzshell> If you have anything touchscreen, GNOME is the only one that provides an experience comparable to Windows.
[01:33] <The_Letter_M> I tghink vertically aligned is more inuitive, especially when you consider our screens are wide so Horizontal real estate is more available than Vertical real estate
[01:33] <tarcids> virtuosoj: synaptic is the best other than terminal to install programs
[01:34] <virtuosoj> I really want a linux tablet, but it doesn't seem functional right now so I'm using Samsung android
[01:34] <virtuosoj> technically still linux but its not the same
[01:34] <tarcids> virtuosoj: it's linux
[01:34] <virtuosoj> not gnu/linux though
[01:36] <tarcids> You are talking about two different animals. Linux is a kernel. Gnu is a shell that can even run on windows
[01:36] <The_Letter_M> virtuosoj, why don't you get a convertable Windows laptop and install Gnome Ubuntu on it and tell us how you like it?
[01:36] <virtuosoj> The_Letter_M, tried that with my dad's Surface 3, it worked but always crashed pretty quickly
[01:37] <virtuosoj> well to be fair, I was booting from USB but I don't feel that should make a difference
[01:37] <raidr> Any help with RAID?
[01:38] <TurBoss> has someone got probblems with packets from their ubuntu begin tagged as "Gobbles ssh" exploit by the IDS?
[01:38] <ghostinzshell> virtuosoj: Might require some tweaks. (https://youtu.be/oXuYg5P4EHo)
[01:38] <ghostinzshell> virtuosoj: Wendell from TekSyndicate had to recompile the kernel
[01:39] <virtuosoj> I'm not knowledgable enough to do those tweaks
[01:39] <virtuosoj> the Galaxy S2 runs really well for now I'm pretty happy with it. but when the linux tablet becomes a better option I will use that
[01:39] <virtuosoj> linux for desktop is already way better than anything else though, IMO for my purposes
[01:40] <ghostinzshell> Yea, it's a little too much effort just to get a Surface running Ubuntu.
[01:40] <artois> virtuosoj: for anyone's
[01:40] <artois> ghostinzshell: how so?
[01:40] <virtuosoj> BRB all, I'm going to try out Antergos for kicks hahaha XD
[01:41] <ghostinzshell> artois: Having to compile a kernel I guess. I'm used to installing Ubuntu on my laptop and start working without minor changes (e.g changing the shell from bash to zsh)
[01:41] <ghostinzshell> with*
[01:41] <ghostinzshell> Compiling a kernel is simple enough too, I just don't want to wait around for it to compile.
[01:43] <svennebanan> where can I find REALLY nice Fluxbox themes?
[01:43] <tarcids> Just when ubuntu becomes easy to install on Computers. SYSTEM ON CHIPS computers throw a monkey wrench on ubuntu. Making it almost impossible to install on most SOC
[01:47] <artois> ghostinzshell: mmm, if you weren't using all Ubuntu's generic builtins, it'd only take a bit
[01:47] <artois> ghostinzshell: or you could just use modules
[01:47] <artois> svennebanan: ~/mycustomthemes/
[01:48] <svennebanan> artois, what?
[01:49] <Remind> Hey there! New user here, loving it so far :)
[01:49] <artois> Remind: gj
[01:49] <Remind> artois: :) thanks
[01:50] <Remind> The Encryption option that was available, is that using LUKS?
[01:50] <k1l> Remind: yes
[01:51] <Remind> k1l: Thanks! Just out of curiosity (I did select it - as well as encrypting the empty data and home folder), what all does it protect against? Someone hooking up a live boot USB and viewing my files, or removing my hard drive and using as an external on their computer and viewing my files?
[01:52] <artois> there's one using luks and the home-only one is using ecryptfs, probs
[01:53] <artois> Remind: for a laptop?
[01:53] <Guest68558> thanks
[01:53] <Remind> artois: Yeah, this is on my laptop. I selected the guided using encryption, then when I went to create the user I also checked to encrypt my home folder
[01:53] <Remind> artois: And thanks btw!
[01:53] <artois> mostly it protects you from the rare thief that might take a moment to see if you have bank authentication data on your drive
[01:54] <artois> ...before reselling your laptop
[01:54] <artois> but it could also protect you from a theoretical legal attack
[01:54] <k1l> Remind: it protects against powerd down hdd "loss".
[01:54] <artois> it will not protect you from an expert who wants your data
[01:55] <Remind> With this encryption, if I was to use Kali and found a vulnerable exploit, could I still explore files without the encryption pass?
[01:55] <artois> but in these days of processors with built in instructions for handling encrypting and decryption, there's not much reason to not encrypt
[01:55] <artois> if you found a vulnerability that let you do that, yes of course
[01:55] <k1l> if there is a exploit its exploitable due to that exploit. we cant guess what that is now
[01:55] <artois> but you won't
[01:55] <artois> it's quite simple to trick a human into giving away their authentication, however
[01:56] <tarcids> Remind: in ten years the best encryption will like a cracker jack lock
[01:56] <artois> and even simpler to gain physical access
[01:56] <_bodhi> how do i install 16.04
[01:56] <k1l> !16.04 | _bodhi
[01:56] <_bodhi> anyone know?
[01:56] <k1l> Remind: as long as your system is running that is quite no protection from LUKS
[01:57] <k1l> _bodhi: see the bots message. 16.04 will be released in april so its still in development
[01:57] <_bodhi> i want the development version
[01:57] <artois> see #Ubuntu+1
[01:57] <_bodhi> so this is for the risk averse side, i get it
[01:57] <k1l> if you cant even read a bots message then i doubt you will want to use a development release
[01:58] <_bodhi> If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing tok pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to crash your system doing what you love.
[01:58] <svennebanan> ma
[01:58] <svennebanan> man
[01:58] <svennebanan> help me
[01:58] <_bodhi> this isn't for momma's boys
[01:58] <_bodhi> i'll try the other channel
[01:58] <svennebanan> where can I find Fluxbox, really nice Fluxbox themes
[01:58] <artois> heh
[01:58] <artois> svennebanan: the fluxbox website? #fluxbox?
[01:58] <artois> you might also like openbox or blackbox
[01:58] <svennebanan> artois, they suck
[01:59] <k1l> svennebanan: see a fluxbox theme page. we cant help you because we have another taste than you, most probably
[01:59] <artois> svennebanan: well, fluxbox isn't very popular
[01:59] <artois> it also isn't very much... visually
[01:59] <artois> it's just a window manager, after all
[01:59] <svennebanan> artois, Hmmm, ok. So it is hard to make it look good?
[01:59] <artois> no
[01:59] <artois> but it's more than zero work
[02:00] <svennebanan> artois, Have you seen a good-looking Fluxbox screenshot?
[02:00] <artois> https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&sout=1&safe=off&q=%22fluxbox%22%20%22eye%20candy%22
[02:00] <artois> probably, but I don't keep track
[02:00] <artois> I use my DE for getting things done
[02:00] <artois> I don't use it as wall art
[02:02] <svennebanan> artois, ok, holy sh*t: http://orig03.deviantart.net/48fb/f/2015/324/1/4/no_man_s_sky_fluxbox_by_xexpanderx-d9h55wt.png
[02:02] <svennebanan> artois, How do I make it look like that?
[02:03] <artois> svennebanan: it says, at http://xexpanderx.deviantart.com/art/No-Man-s-Sky-Fluxbox-572989997
[02:03] <k1l> svennebanan: usually they name and link their used themes and iconpacks on  the site
[02:04] <svennebanan> sh*t, Fluxbox can look goot...
[02:04] <svennebanan> good
[02:04] <artois> most things _can_
[02:04] <Greylocks> fluxbox is awesome looks good and performs well with low mem usage
[02:06] <pkircher> that no mans sky theme is pretty
[02:06] <pkircher> sadly that game isnt out yet
[02:06] <The_Letter_M> You should try Fluxbox combined with Razor DE
[02:07] <pkircher> i wonder how that looks with 16 cores ..
[02:07] <svennebanan> That guy seems to do some nice Fluxbox themes...
[02:07] <pkircher> http://puu.sh/mHdYj/1193eb93eb.png
[02:08] <svennebanan> artois, thank you. I think Fluxbox is really awesome
[02:08] <svennebanan> gonna check more about that guy, "xexpanderx" or whatever he calls himself
[02:10] <svennebanan> pkircher, so "No Mans Sky" is a game...
[02:10] <pkircher> yep
[02:10] <svennebanan> looks really cool
[02:47] <cpetrikowski> hi
[02:48] <cpetrikowski> bye
[02:49] <doodle> hey
[02:49] <k1l> hi
[02:50] <Guest37668> how r u
[02:50] <k1l> tired :)
[02:50] <Guest37668> me too :(
[02:51] <Guest37668> sooo....
[02:51] <Guest37668> anybody here?
[02:51] <k1l> just ask the support question
[02:52] <Guest37668> oh cool
[02:54] <Guest37668> hola
[02:55] <Guest37668> bye
[02:59] <natalie_> how do I make a tablet attached by USB get recognized by the files explorer program?
[02:59] <anand_ts> Hello all
[02:59] <anand_ts> anyone tried installing ubuntu 14.04 on UCS C servers
[02:59] <homa> hi
[03:00] <anand_ts> when I install ubuntu it is completed installation succesfully and after reboot it goes to EFI shell. not sure whats wrong
[03:00] <anand_ts> hi homa
[03:00] <nicomachus> natalie_: here's the full guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2226702
[03:01] <anand_ts> is this channel active
[03:01] <anand_ts> Can I get some help here
[03:01] <EriC^^> anand_ts: hey
[03:01] <anand_ts> EriC^^: hey
[03:01] <EriC^^> anand_ts: try pressing esc when it boots and see if you can get a boot options menu
[03:02] <EriC^^> anand_ts: also did you install it in uefi mode or legacy?
[03:02] <anand_ts> EriC^^: It is not at all booting from harddisk after reboot
[03:02] <EriC^^> anand_ts: yeah i mean the boot options before the uefi shell
[03:02] <anand_ts> EriC^^: I changed the boot options in bios to kvm-mapped-DVD.
[03:02] <homa> hi
[03:02] <EriC^^> anand_ts: ok, can you boot a live session?
[03:03] <anand_ts> EriC^^: I am sorry, how to boot a live session
[03:03] <natalie_> apt-get dist-upgrade does what?
[03:03] <EriC^^> !dist-upgrade | natalie_
[03:03] <EriC^^> anand_ts: do you have a live iso? something that can get you a shell?
[03:04] <natalie_> oh, ok, thanks
[03:04] <EriC^^> np
[03:04] <anand_ts> EriC^^: I am hitting the exact issue http://askubuntu.com/questions/721539/cisco-ucs-and-ubuntu
[03:04] <anand_ts> EriC^^: Oh I dont have a live iso.
[03:04] <EriC^^> anand_ts: ok, and the server iso doesn't give a live iso right?
[03:05] <snakeryslug> hello :) i'm trying to play with bluesnarfer, but i can't get it to build. does anyone else have problems with https://github.com/boos/bluesnarfer? I `sudo apt-get install libbluetooth-dev -y; git clone https://github.com/boos/bluesnarfer; cd bluesnarfer; make`, but I get a bunch of undefined references.
[03:05] <EriC^^> anand_ts: try to get a boot options menu and if you can select the efi file to boot or boot an entry you want
[03:06] <anand_ts> EriC^^: okay. I will try that.
[03:08] <ttal> I have just installed a fresh 15.10, using a GTX980 with nvidia driver version 352.63. I have not installed Cuda (nvidia-cuda-toolkit) however when I use Blender (3D software) if gives me the option of Cuda GPU Rendering. Any idea why? I mean, I am thankful it just works, but any idea why?
[03:08] <wizkdd_> i cant enable my bluetooth
[03:09] <snakeryslug> ttal: do you know that Cuda is?
[03:10] <ttal> snakeryslug: No, not exactly. Does it enable faster processing by the GPU somehow?
[03:11] <snakeryslug> ttal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA
[03:13] <dmfrey> how do you verfiy what version of intel graphics stack is installed?
[03:13] <ttal> snakeryslug: ok wow. I wish I had done a bit more reading 48 hours ago..
[03:15] <ttal> snakeryslug: I thought I needed it to enable GPU rendering in Blender.. ffs. I have installed and reinstalled 14.04, 14.10, 15.10 trying to get cuda to work and for the gpu rendering settings to work in blender.
[03:16] <ttal> snakeryslug: long long long story short, if anyone else faces this issue, it appears Blender 2.74 just didnt support the new GTX980 yet. I installed Blender 2.76b and it works right away.
[03:17] <ttal> snakeryslug: thank you.
[03:21] <musty26069> hey guys, I just typed something like kill X on the terminal and screwd my shortcuts, task bar and top menu...... any help to restore it, plz? tks a lot
[03:21] <hatsuneMiku> ...
[03:23] <musty26069> yeah.. .kind of stupid, huh? :P
[03:23] <EriC^^> anand_ts: any luck?
[03:24] <dmfrey> how do you verify what version of intel graphics stack is installed?
[03:29] <ttal> can anyone give me an example of how they keep their system maintained with regards to update, dist-upgrade, and autoremove? Are these things that are done every day?
[03:30] <hatsuneMiku> #theitalianjob
[03:31] <danfun64> For whatever reason, Timidity does not want to use any soundfonts that aren't freepats or fluidr3
[03:31] <danfun64> I have Scc1t2.sf2 in /usr/share/sounds/sf2/
[03:32] <danfun64> timidity.cfg has source /etc/timidity/scc1t2.cfg
[03:32] <danfun64> and scc1t2.cfg has dir /usr/share/sounds/sf2
[03:32] <Bashing-om> ttal: 'sudo apt update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ; df -h ' depending on what the package manager advises from <- , then I may run ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' . The 'df -h ' is to watch disk usage. I run real tight and I have too watch !
[03:33] <danfun64> wait
[03:34] <danfun64> the soundfont loads if I use the timidity command directly
[03:34] <danfun64> but if I load a game using SDL (in this case PrBoom+) no music comes out
[03:35] <ttal> Bashing-om: thanks for that. When do you do a dist-upgrade?
[03:37] <danfun64> yet it works if fluidr3 is used...why?
[03:37] <Bashing-om> ttal: Package manager will advise " held packages" and relate which ones . I generally try and determine what these "held" packages are ( phased release updates ??) ... and then I might do the ' sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' .
[03:38] <Bashing-om> !dist-upgrade | ttal
[03:43] <sexyshowercurtai> Evening all... any ideas why update manager (on 10.04) would freeze after I hit the "close" button on the "Your ubuntu release is not suported anymore" dialog box?
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> !eol | sexyshowercurtai
[03:44] <ttal> Bashing-om: any reason why you use apt update and not apt-get update?
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> sexyshowercurtai: fresh install a version from our topic mate
[03:48] <sexyshowercurtai> lotuspsychje, have tried but I'm running into roadblocks. do-release-upgrade aborts, update manager freezes, and booting version 14 leads to serious graphics issues...apologies for noobiness
[03:48] <Bashing-om> ttal: apt is the updated apt-get and does have some added new features . Less ytyomg too amd apt is faster .
[03:48] <Bashing-om> typing **
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> sexyshowercurtai: its not recommended to upgrade from an eol version..would you trust yours after all the security exploits out?
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> sexyshowercurtai: i advise you to backup everything dear to you, and start over fresh
[03:54] <sexyshowercurtai> lotuspsychje, I do not. It has been very problematic upgrading to a newer release, due to graphics issues that arise.
[03:54] <ttal> Bashing-om: awesome, thanks for the tips. will definitely be more aware of the possible destructiveness of dist-upgrade
[03:55] <sexyshowercurtai> lotuspsychje, Fortunately, I have nothing to back up. Was hoping that I could progressively use the do-release-upgrade to get all the way up to current
[03:55] <danfun64> ...
[03:55] <sexyshowercurtai> lotuspsychje, Will attempt once more. Thank you for the patience :)
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> !usn | sexyshowercurtai
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> sexyshowercurtai: many chances you will break your system like this
[03:56] <Bashing-om> ttal: " possible destructiveness " is a remote possibility . and bear in mind the package manager will always tell you what it is doing, and there is a history of what took place .
[03:56] <ttal> Bashing-om: "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required"  <-- so I hould listen to this and then do an autoremove?
[03:57] <danfun64> nevermind...
[03:57] <ttal> Bashing-om: where do you find the history?
[03:58] <stoneman1> Hello. Can someone give me support here? I just rebooted and nearly all my settings are gone/not accessible.
[03:59] <Bashing-om> ttal: Look at the list .. does it make sense what it is telling you ? .. then YES by all means - clean the system up . ( it is rare that in a system with a consistent package manager that the package manager will make a mistake ) .
[04:00] <stoneman1> My monitor settings coul not be loaded. I deleted ~/.config/monitors.xml that fixed that. My terminal profile prefrences were not loaded. Visual things like cmy theme are not loaded.
[04:00] <Bashing-om> ttal: ' ls -al /var/log/apt ' .
[04:01] <stoneman1> And the system needs pretty long when booting before the ubuntu splashscreen shows up
[04:01] <ttal> Bashing-om: thanks for all the tips and advice, really helpful and really appreciate it.
[04:02] <stoneman1> I'd be really thankful for help. If you need further information just ask.
[04:03] <Bashing-om> ttal: What we do here .. hang with us and you too will make contributions .
[04:07] <ttal> Bashing-om: I will be hanging. I have used linux / ubuntu on and off for over 10 years. Finally made the switch on my main system, with a new GTX980. The only reason I had windows was for games but Steam has fixed all that, and i only play nerdy games like KSP, Minecraft, Cities, and XPlane so I'm all set now. Most applications I use are web based. Just need to learn the ins and outs of safe, predictable, regular maintenance and troubleshooting.
[04:10] <stoneman1> the problem stays after i restored a backup from 5 days ago
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> stoneman1: restoring a backup overwrites your old settings right
[04:14] <stoneman1> yes but i think the settings are not the problem. they are there. they are just not loaded i think...
[04:15] <Bashing-om> ttal: Then you are will over the hump . It is now just common sense and GOOF backups ! .. you are ready to break your system to your heart's content . ( I learned very quickly the value of a 'buntu dual boot ) It has been ages now since I broke my system to a point of frustration to RE-install .
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> stoneman1: you can check your /home with hidden folders and browsing in configs to make sure?
[04:15] <stoneman1> for example i get this message on bootup: Could not apply the stored configurations for monitors
[04:15] <stoneman1> but ~./config/monitors.xml is there
[04:16] <stoneman1> when i delete it the monitors adjust
[04:16] <ttal> Bashing-om: whats a buntu dual boot? And for what purpose? Just a backup os ready to go?
[04:18]  * LambdaComplex has 3 linux distros installed
[04:18]  * LambdaComplex is prepared for anything
[04:18] <LambdaComplex> no, wait, i still have Arch installed twice
[04:18]  * LambdaComplex has 4 linux distros installed
[04:19] <stoneman1> also my context menu and buttons look like from win2k and i cannot change the theme (not my biggest problem but surely the same root).
[04:19] <Bashing-om> ttal: Yes, dual boot .. you have the "work" system and on a seperate hard drive a backup ( what is 50 gigs now-a-days ) - a shared data partition is very handy . See mine : http://paste.ubuntu.com/14627513/ .
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> LambdaComplex: please no broadcasting here
[04:20] <LambdaComplex> lotuspsychje: pardon?
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> LambdaComplex: we have a discuss channel for that
[04:21] <LambdaComplex> lotuspsychje: it was relevant to what Bashing-om said
[04:21] <LambdaComplex> lotuspsychje: now hush, because you're just causing even more off-topic discussion
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> LambdaComplex: relevant is trying to help, not /me ...
[04:22] <stoneman1> lotuspsychje is there a log of the boot up which i can look into. because as i said it takes longer than usual
[04:22] <LambdaComplex> so what, there's some rule that /me isn't allowed here? i don't recall ever seeing that in the rules
[04:22] <LambdaComplex> i'm gonna stop replying now
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> stoneman1: wich ubuntu version do you have?
[04:23] <LambdaComplex> Bashing-om: If that's how you're doing it, perhaps sharing a home partition would be useful?
[04:23] <LambdaComplex> Bashing-om: Although you'd still want a backup of it
[04:24] <stoneman1> lotuspsychje: 14.04 LTS. in /var/log/boot.log nothing interisting is logged
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> stoneman1: try lightdm log
[04:26] <stoneman1> lotuspsychje /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log has no errors either
[04:26] <Bashing-om> LambdaComplex: No, never share /home .. configs can and are different .. can cause the system to have head aches ! .. copy files to share to a 'data' partition .
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> stoneman1: how about pressing F1 during boot to see errors/bottleneck?
[04:27] <stoneman1> ok ill try.
[04:27] <Bashing-om> stoneman1: what release ? as systemd keeps good boot logs .
[04:27] <nicomachus> 14.04
[04:27] <nicomachus> so upstart
[04:28] <ttal> Bashing-om: wow, nice setup. I just have this kind of 'dumb' main desktop, and a nas pc in another room for large video, software, lectures etc, and photos and documents are in the cloud.
[04:28] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: :) .. and the hunt begins .
[04:28] <LambdaComplex> Bashing-om: If all your distros are the same, why would the configs be different?
[04:30] <Bashing-om> LambdaComplex: All of mine are different .. I see no value in risking sharing a /home .
[04:33] <stoneman1> mmmh the problem solved when i removed my usb-to-ethernet adapter. i know that booting with usb peripherals is not recommended but i was so sure that i did this already a thousand time that i didn't try without
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> !yay | stoneman1
[04:34] <stoneman1> now i did and it booted just fine. i will try again with and without if the problem occurs again. but i hope not. thanks alot
[04:35] <LambdaComplex> Bashing-om: Oh, in that case, then you're right
[04:36] <stoneman1> bye. when im more fluent with ubuntu i might comeback sometime. maybe i can help others by then. ;)
[04:37] <ttal> if i downloaded the Blender binary, and the sublime text 2 binary, where should I put it? /usr/lib/?
[04:42] <Bashing-om> ttal: Be aware .. It has taken me @ 40 some odd years to know how to set up my box for a particular use case .
[04:44] <ttal>  / opt?
[04:45] <pkircher> usr/local/bin ?
[04:45] <pkircher> opt/bin
[04:45] <pkircher> you just gotta find it
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> pkircher: use the whereis command perhaps?
[04:47] <pkircher> he asked where he should put it .. not where it is
[04:47] <pkircher> :)
[04:48] <pkircher> small but suttle difference
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> pkircher: try !who to make things less confusing, when other volunteers dont follow or just joined
[04:49] <pkircher> “ttal: if i downloaded the Blender binary, and the sublime text 2 binary, where should I put it? /usr/lib/?”
[04:49] <pkircher> its just 2 lines above .. o
[04:49] <pkircher> so its rather obvious who i ment
[04:49] <pkircher> just saying
[04:49] <c3l> How do I best write a program that "hijacks" keyboard input and "simulates" other keypresses? (I have some fancy mappings I want to make..)
[04:50] <pkircher> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions?action=show&redirect=Howto%3A+Custom+keyboard+layout+definitions @c3l
[04:50] <Omnipotent> Is there any shortcut to access minimized apps in indicator area
[04:50] <Omnipotent> top right
[04:50] <Omnipotent> like hexchat etc.
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> Omnipotent: classicmenu indicator
[04:52] <Omnipotent> What is that? an application?
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> Omnipotent: an indicator with menu items
[04:52] <ttal> pkircher: thanks got it.
[04:52] <Omnipotent> Installing
[04:53] <Omnipotent> lotuspsychje, Ok, that is not what I want.
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> Omnipotent: logout/login to make it active
[04:53] <Omnipotent> Yeah it created the "start button" kind of thing in indicator area where you could select the icons.
[04:53] <Guy1524> hey guys, I have a really weird problem, I am dual booting elementary OS freya on my mom's 5 year old imac, at first it booted into the tty, so I had to do radeon.modeset=0 making it use intel graphics.  Do any of you know how I can use the amd graphics card?  lspci -nn | grep VGA returns this: http://pastebin.com/WwGK9JdP
[04:53] <Omnipotent> I don't want that, I just want to select minimized to indicator area style apps
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> ah
[04:53] <Omnipotent> Like hexchat if you know.
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> Omnipotent: i guess that relies on the app itself, using indicator area or not
[04:54] <Omnipotent> ... The app is IN indicator area
[04:54] <Omnipotent> I just want to select it.
[04:54] <Omnipotent> Focus you know.
[04:54] <Omnipotent> without mouse.
[04:54] <Omnipotent> With mouse I can do.
[04:55] <nicomachus> Guy1524: Elementary support is in #elementary
[04:55] <Guy1524> yes but isn't elementary os based off ubuntu
[04:55] <nicomachus> it's a derivative, not a flavor. So many things are different.
[04:56] <Guy1524> ok
[04:56] <Omnipotent> Wow elementary is paid.
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> Omnipotent: can this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/13137/is-there-a-keyboard-shortcut-to-open-the-indicator-applet
[04:57] <c3l> pkircher, no.. what I need is more control than this. I want to use spacebar as a modifier key, but only if pressed alone, and when spacebar is released (with no other key having been pressed) a space should be inserted
[04:57] <pkircher> get a mechanical keyboard and do it in TMK ?!
[04:57] <Omnipotent> lotuspsychje, Yeah works, but pretty darn crucade way to do it, 1) You need to click two buttons that are way too faar on keyboard and 2) you need hit right arrow key multiple times to reach those apps
[04:57] <pkircher> i much rather have that logic inside the keyboard .. !
[04:57] <ChibaPet> Support question! Is there a standard way to tell something not to run without muching with its /etc/init/foo.conf ?
[04:57] <Omnipotent> shouldn't there be a straightforward way to access them, considering they are indicator/system tray icon
[04:57] <ChibaPet> (on 14.04)
[04:58] <ChibaPet> s/muching/mucking with/
[04:58] <pkircher> c3l that wont work inside linux mappings ..
[04:58] <pkircher> you need the keyboard firmware todo that :)
[04:58] <c3l> pkircher, why_
[04:59] <Guy1524> nicomachus: the elementary irc is empty, can I please ask the question here?
[04:59] <nicomachus> c3l: that is all in xinput settings, and it's possible but not easy.
[04:59] <pkircher> > amtel32u4 and tmk .. thank you very much .. job done
[04:59] <nicomachus> c3l: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input
[05:00] <c3l> pkircher, nicomachus: in principle it should be easy(?) Ideally I'd just have a small python script that listens to (hijacks) all keyboard input, and "sends" other input
[05:01] <pkircher> nope
[05:01] <pkircher> :)
[05:01] <pkircher> hid is a entire different level .. but good luck .. special at the reaction times :)
[05:02] <nicomachus> c3l: why not just remap in the xinput config...?
[05:02] <pkircher> because he wants to make a “fake” tmk keyboard ..
[05:03] <pkircher> > as i sayed .. you be way better of .. if thats done in hardware and not in linux at all
[05:03] <pkircher> > https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard is the firmware im referening to
[05:04] <loveheartjoylov1> Are we talking about tab completion for partial words system wide provided by a dictionary file (with later support for statistical word complete personalization) since nobody will port and modify the code from existing mobile applications? Because if so, I'm in.
[05:05] <nicomachus> that doesn't sound OT at all.
[05:05] <c3l> pkircher, am I supposed to reprogram my keyboard? I doubt that will be easy
[05:05] <loveheartjoylov1> Ima if i cou typ o th muc
[05:05] <loveheartjoylov1> (imagine if I could only type this much)
[05:05] <loveheartjoylov1> Spaces autocomplete of course
[05:06] <nicomachus> loveheartjoylov1: #ubuntu-dev
[05:06] <pkircher> c3l: if you got a normal rubber dome .. your right .. if you got a “real” keyboard .. its easy .. apart from that ..
[05:06] <pkircher> if you want the functionality of a fully programmable mecha
[05:06] <pkircher> you gotta get a fully programmable mecha .. OR build it your self
[05:07] <c3l> pkircher, I have a laptop and the keyboard that's stuck on it .. :)
[05:07] <pkircher> planck keyboard :P
[05:07] <pkircher> fits perfectly over the laptop ..
[05:07] <pkircher> and you are killing your hands with that shit ..
[05:07] <nicomachus> language. and off-topic.
[05:08] <c3l> very much topic
[05:11] <c3l> pkircher, would it not be possible to listen to /dev/input/eventX somehow?
[05:12] <lerner> I dont understand why people can write paths with /dev/sda or /dev/mapper/ev1
[05:13] <lerner> and mountpoints, thats like 3 ways of doing the same
[05:13] <ChibaPet> lerner: Different things. If something shows up in /dev/mapper it's probably more complex than /dev/sda.
[05:13] <ChibaPet> lerner: /dev/mapper has things like LVM volumes, LUKS devices unlocked, etc.
[05:14] <lerner> is there any country that loves to use abreviations so extensively as americans?
[05:15] <ChibaPet> Terser. You get your answer quicker.
[05:19] <lerner> LUKS = linux unified key system?
[05:19] <ChibaPet> Another support question! So, using ALSA, I used to be able to say "amixer sset Master toggle", but PulseAudio seems to want something different. Is there a clean way to toggle muting from the command line?
[05:20] <ChibaPet> lerner: Yar. man cryptsetup
[05:20] <ChibaPet> Despite the name, it's not just Linux. DragonflyBSD also supports it.
[05:24] <nicomachus> ChibaPet: mute would be "amixer set Master mute"
[05:24] <nicomachus> but toggle also does work
[05:25] <rypervenche> ChibaPet: pactl set-sink-mute 0 toggle
[05:25] <arooni> is it possible to remote desktop from ubuntu 14.04 ==> OS X ?  i.e. so i could do things like compile iOS apps on my mac mini when i'm not home ?
[05:25] <rypervenche> ChibaPet: That will work too, using pavucontrol and not ALSA.
[05:25] <ChibaPet> ty both
[05:26] <rypervenche> ChibaPet: s/pavucontrol/PulseAudio/
[05:26] <homa> hi
[05:26] <nicomachus> ChibaPet: PulseAudio employs the ALSA components...
[05:27] <ChibaPet> Mm. I'm just finding that my command is muting a bunch of stuff, and I'm having to go in with alsamixer to unmute it all.
[05:27] <ChibaPet> I'll try these new invocations you've kindly provided.
[05:27] <nicomachus> ChibaPet: see here for more on ALSA/PulseAudio: https://askubuntu.com/questions/426983/how-can-i-tell-if-im-using-alsa-or-pulse-audio-by-default-switching-to-i3-wm
[05:27] <ChibaPet> ty
[05:27] <ChibaPet> (Ah, I'm thinking about i3 here. Heh.)
[05:29] <rypervenche> i3 ftw :)
[05:30] <ChibaPet> I script wmctrl and xprop to get tiling navigation now, and, um, dzen2, but it might be simpler to just use i3 stuff.
[05:31] <nicomachus> I never could get comfortable with tiling.
[05:32] <ChibaPet> My hybrid approach is floating windows with overlap, but tiling behaviour. It's a decent compromise, mostly arising from my dinosaurlike insistence on 80-column terminal windows.
[05:34] <vanish> need help running Minecraft on 15.10
[05:34] <ChibaPet> vanish: Server or client?
[05:37] <c3l> pkircher, Actually,I think this can be done with a python script. with evdev I can both read from /dev/input/eventX that is my keyboard, and generate custom input with uinput device
[05:41] <dirtypervert> Testing
[05:41] <dirtypervert> Microphone check
[05:42] <ChibaPet> Ah, that link had a subsequent link to http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2012/07/13/top-five-wrong-ways-to-fix-your-audio/, which gave me the glorious "echo autospawn=no > ~/.pulse/client.conf", and now my amixer sset is happy again.
[05:43] <nicomachus> !yay | ChibaPet
[05:43] <wjx> Is there anyone using ubuntu SDK?  I get iso-codes package Size mismatch error when trying to create build target
[05:43] <nicomachus> wjx: try #ubuntu-dev
[05:44] <nicomachus> or even #ubuntu-touch
[05:44] <wjx> thanks I will try
[05:45] <il-x> hallo
[05:48] <ChibaPet> Woot. So, as a reward for dominating .Xauthority, PulseAudio, libdvdcss, and if not dominating home-on-ZFS than at least fighting it to a draw, I'm going to watch a DVD. Good night all, and stay safe, those of you currently in the storm.
[05:57] <django_> hey all
[05:57] <django_> so i downloaded a tar.gz file
[05:57] <django_> how do i actually instsall it?
[05:57] <NoobsterMCTorval> I think you need to extract it
[05:57] <Jordan_U> django_: What are you actually trying to install?
[06:00] <django_> Jordan_U, trying to install a bare eclipse ide
[06:01] <Jordan_U> django_: What is wrong with eclipse from the repositories?
[06:04] <NoobsterMCTorval> Does anyone know the best way to get familiar with the command line?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> !manual | NoobsterMCTorval
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> !bash | NoobsterMCTorval
[06:05] <rabbitdew> django: tar -xvJf filename.tar.gz; cd filename; ##check documentation of what you're installing, usually something like : ./configure; ./make; make install
[06:06] <NoobsterMCTorval> Django left
[06:07] <rabbitdew> oh..I'm ignoring quits
[06:08] <NoobsterMCTorval> Thanks. Lotus
[06:09] <NoobsterMCTorval> What do u mean though rabbit?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> NoobsterMCTorval: alot of packages/ commands also hold man pages (manual) so : man yourcommand
[06:09] <rabbitdew> and didn't notice, thanks for mentioning it. Oh well.
[06:09] <NoobsterMCTorval> Is man terminal a command?
[06:10] <NoobsterMCTorval> I would try it but I'm on my phone right now
[06:10] <rabbitdew> If you wanted to get more comfortable with an ubuntu command line you should probably try and get more comfortable with bash.
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> NoobsterMCTorval: yes try man cp
[06:10] <NoobsterMCTorval> Rabbit, I'm trying to learn bash
[06:10] <rabbitdew> yeah dude! or man man
[06:11] <rabbitdew> or man bash
[06:11] <NoobsterMCTorval> I know z ok me simple commands dealing with directories and installing apps but that's about it
[06:11] <NoobsterMCTorval> I know some
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> NoobsterMCTorval: installing apps: sudo apt-get install yourpackage-name
[06:14] <NoobsterMCTorval> Alright thanks guys. Good night, I'm gonna go and start reading.
[06:18] <homa> are there my friends here?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> homa: this is ubuntu support channel
[06:23] <pkircher> right network routing question .. i got openstack installed single node with juju .. > the br is on 10.0.3.0 .. the host is on 192.168.1.70 .. > straight forward ..
[06:23] <pkircher> but juju puts the openstack components into a container .. with 10.0.4.X
[06:23] <pkircher> how would i actualy forward the ip to the containers
[06:24] <pkircher> preferable 1 static route for the full subnet
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> pkircher: ##networking
[06:25] <pkircher> ubuntu :P
[06:25] <pkircher> http://puu.sh/mHuc8/c2be21bc49.png
[06:27] <centric> what is statble version of coreutils for ubuntu 15.10?
[06:27] <centric> *stable
[06:27] <centric> !coreutils
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> centric: !info package
[06:29] <centric> !info dd
[06:29] <centric> !info coreutils
[06:29] <centric> !info coreutils wily
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | centric
[06:33] <centric> is coreutils 8.24 supported for ubuntu wily?
[06:43] <dani--> ive bought a TV Capture Card that is said to work well in ubuntu.. here's a link to a linux article.. my card is reviewd at the very bottom of the link... note what it says that the card works  "out of the box"  https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-NOVA-T_PCI
[06:44] <dani--> do you think that means with any software??? what do you guys think??
[06:44] <dani--> it doesnt specify.. simply says "works out of the box"
[06:47] <Ben64> dani--: try it and find out?
[06:56] <dani--> it seams unlikely that the tv card will work out of the box without specific software in mind???
[06:56] <dani--> Ben64, ?
[06:57] <dani--> drivers only work with specific hardware dont they?
[06:57] <mark__> mare
[07:01] <Jordan_U> dani--: You of course need to install software that makes use of Tuner cards, like Kodi. In this case "Out of the box" likely is intended to mean, without installing any additional drivers or doing extra configuration beyond installing some software that uses the tuner.
[07:01] <dani--> thanks Jordan_U ... so do you think it will work on most tv software? such as Kaffiene?
[07:02] <dani--> or mythtv?
[07:03] <Jordan_U> dani--: Yes. While I don't have experience with any such software, I expect that they all support the same hardware since the hardware support is part of the kernel.
[07:03] <dani--> :) very good. thanks for your opinion mate
[07:03] <Jordan_U> dani--: You're welcome.
[07:04] <o> hi
[07:04] <Guest62268> 大家好
[07:09] <dani--> ne  how
[07:10] <decci> I have 24 packages to be installed and the packages are to be installed in sequence
[07:10] <dani--> good one decci
[07:10] <decci> What is the best possible way to get it installed...installer???
[07:10] <dani--> :<)
[07:10] <dani--> apt-get is easy
[07:10] <dani--> apt-get install *Software*
[07:11] <dani--> sudo apt-get install *Software*
[07:11] <decci> I want it to be installed off line
[07:11] <decci> Since few packages does need to be installed and require internet
[07:11] <dani--> not sure about that decci
[07:12] <decci> Say, I identified 4-5 packages and include everything under one folder
[07:12] <decci> Now will apt-get help???
[07:13] <decci> Will apt-get still look into the current folder
[07:13] <decci> To fetch the dependency
[07:16] <Jordan_U> decci: How did you figure out the appropriate packages to download? You can use dpkg and shell globs to install a set of packages, but I want to make sure that you've properly grabbed the correct packages first.
[07:17] <decci> Jordan_U: while installing I got the dependency errors and that's what I collected
[07:17] <decci> Jordan_U: well I am using fresh machine to identify the missing packages
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> decci: added ppa's of any kind?
[07:18] <decci> lotuspsychje: no...it's customer specific
[07:18] <decci> No...ppa
[07:19] <decci> Not avl on public forum
[07:19] <ZZZZ_> hey i run ubuntu tooo
[07:19] <ZZZZ_> hello guys
[07:19] <FiestyGirlXD> i don't like ubuntu
[07:19] <ZZZZ_> why not
[07:19] <ZZZZ_> :s
[07:19] <Jordan_U> decci: What are you trying to install exactly?
[07:19] <ZZZZ_> jordan_u do u help with ubuntu installs?
[07:19] <FiestyGirlXD> it just sucks
[07:20] <FiestyGirlXD> it's all orange and shit
[07:20] <FiestyGirlXD> makes it 3* worse
[07:20] <ZZZZ_> u can change the color scheme.........
[07:20] <Jordan_U> FiestyGirlXD: This channel is for Ubuntu support only, not for sharing your opinions.
[07:20] <ZZZZ_> geeze,,,,,,
[07:20] <FiestyGirlXD> true
[07:20] <Silenced> Memory card can't be read . Any way to access files of the memory card ?
[07:20] <ZZZZ_> silenced have u tried xlr sd?
[07:20] <Jordan_U> Silenced: How are you trying to access the files? What happens when you try?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> Silenced: tried with gparted if you still can see the card
[07:21] <FiestyGirlXD> i put ubuntu on my grandma's computer
[07:21] <FiestyGirlXD> and she yelled at me
[07:21] <decci> Jordan_U: I have custom .deb packages built
[07:21] <FiestyGirlXD> how do i fix this?
[07:21] <decci> And they are couple of them
[07:21] <Jordan_U> decci: Did you build them or did someone else?
[07:21] <decci> But inn sequence
[07:21] <ZZZZ_> decci: nice bro
[07:21] <FiestyGirlXD> how to uninstall ubuntu
[07:21] <decci> Jordan_U: yes...I build it with my team
[07:21] <ZZZZ_> try debian fiestgirlxd
[07:21] <ZZZZ_> u might like it
[07:21] <Silenced> ZZZZ_, Jordan_U ,lotuspsychje : "sudo fdisk -l" doesn't shows any entry of the SD card
[07:21] <Jordan_U> FiestyGirlXD: Did you install Ubuntu alongside another OS, or did you replace the OS that was on the computer before?
[07:22] <FiestyGirlXD> i dunno
[07:22] <ZZZZ_> silenced ah, is the reader faulty by any chance?
[07:22] <FiestyGirlXD> as a browser
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> Silenced: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and insert your sd for errors
[07:22] <decci> Now I can install them but in sequence..
[07:22] <FiestyGirlXD> yeah, that's how
[07:22] <soman> [XUbuntu] How to setup pppoe network via router with Network manager? At this moment I configured ppoe with 'ppoeconf' and after editing /etc/network/interfaces I always get 'Waiting up network for 60 sec' and 'Booting system without full network support'. Internet works.
[07:22] <Silenced> Nope. Other cards working fine
[07:22] <FiestyGirlXD> i installed it as a browser
[07:22] <FiestyGirlXD> i remember now
[07:22] <decci> I want installer to take care of it
[07:23] <Jordan_U> decci: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/.deb/file/*.deb
[07:23] <FiestyGirlXD> like what the fuck else did i install it as
[07:23] <decci> It's system management tool
[07:23] <Jordan_U> FiestyGirlXD: Please watch your language in this channel.
[07:23] <decci> Ok
[07:24] <decci> Jordan_U: ok
[07:24] <Jordan_U> FiestyGirlXD: What do you mean by "I installed it as a browser"? Are you connected from your Grandmother's computer right now?
[07:27] <FiestyGirlXD> i went online
[07:27] <FiestyGirlXD> and clicked install
[07:27] <FiestyGirlXD> i went to the ubuntu website
[07:28] <Jordan_U> Silenced: If the card isn't showing up as a disk at all, there's not really anything you can do about that in software. Seems like a hardware problem. Does "dmesg" reveal any relevant looking error messages when you plug the SD card in?
[07:30] <Michael_Wright> hi
[07:31] <Michael_Wright> i am wondering can you tell me, is intel b960 with 4GB of ram and 2nd gen intel hd graphics is it compatible with Ubuntu? this laptop is running windows 8.1 perfectly but i'm getting tired of windows..
[07:32] <Jordan_U> Michael_Wright: Try Ubuntu from a LiveUSB first and see how well it works on your hardware before installing.
[07:32] <Michael_Wright> alright
[07:32] <barnito> ubuntu will run on almost anyhting
[07:32] <Michael_Wright> jordan_U if you had to guess would it work fine?
[07:34] <Jordan_U> Michael_Wright: Intel graphics are generally well supported out of the box, any CPU will be supported just find, and 4 GiB of RAM is more than enough for most use cases (especially since it seems like enough RAM for what you want to do in Windows). Where compatability becomes an issue with hardware tends to be Wireless cards, so you should check that wireless works in the live environment before installin
[07:34] <Jordan_U> g.
[07:37] <agung> hi
[07:37] <agung> hi
[07:37] <FiestyGirlXD> hi person
[07:37] <agung> a yes ...
[07:37] <agung> this is ubuntu server ????
[07:38] <FiestyGirlXD> this is where we get down and dirty
[07:38] <agung> i"ve 1 question for my xubuntu desktop .....
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> !server | agung
[07:39] <Jordan_U> FiestyGirlXD: Please limit your comments to only productive Ubuntu support discussion. This is your second warning. Further unproductive comments will lead to removal from the channel.
[07:39] <agung> Can I change desktop enviroment to kde desktop ?????
[07:40] <FiestyGirlXD> oh, sorry
[07:40] <Jordan_U> agung: Yes you can, but for future questions please limit yourself to a single question mark.
[07:41] <agung> yes ,, thank you ... I newbie to use xchat .... hehehe
[07:41] <Jordan_U> agung: If you install the "kubuntu-desktop" metapackage then you will get all of the packages that are installed in a default installation of Kubuntu, but will still keep all of your existing applications. You can then choose a KDE session from the login manager. Note that since you'll have applications from both Xubuntu and Kubuntu your application menus will be more cluttered than they would be if you h
[07:41] <Jordan_U> ad just installed one or the other.
[07:42] <ZZZZ_> jordran_u what do u recommend for a first time user as a desktop environment
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | ZZZZ_
[07:43] <dani--> ZZZZ_, avoid gnome and avoid unity
[07:43] <agung> kde desktop will fine in my laptop?? because i use the old laptop with low spec .....
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> !behelpful | dani--
[07:43] <dani--> ubottu i dont mean to be un helpfull
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> dani--: unity and gnome are also user friendly in use
[07:44] <dani--> i wont argue
[07:45] <Jordan_U> ZZZZ_: I don't know. Unity is the Ubuntu default, and seems like it's probably pretty easy to use but GNOME, XFCE, and KDE seem pretty intuitive also. It's very subjective. I like GNOME Shell and XFCE, but I'm far from a first time user and honestly which DE I'm using doesn't really affect my use cases much.
[07:45] <agung> if install the kde ,, I'll have the 2 enviroment before login ??
[07:45] <dani--> kde is much better
[07:46] <dani--> i recommend kde or cinamin or mate or metacity
[07:46] <agung> yes ,, i think so ....
[07:46] <LambdaComplex> ZZZZ_: Gnome, KDE, Cinnamon, and XFCE are all good choices really
[07:46] <The_Letter_M> Yu[
[07:46] <The_Letter_M> Yup
[07:46] <The_Letter_M> KDE is the only of those that I haven't used extensively
[07:46] <agung> my laptop is low spec ... i had only 512 mb of ram .....
[07:47] <LambdaComplex> agung: Eh, KDE isn't really a good choice if you have that little RAM
[07:47] <Jordan_U> agung: KDE might be a bit much for that little RAM, probably best to stick with XFCE or buy more RAM.
[07:47] <LambdaComplex> Could also try openbox
[07:48] <dani--> xubuntu is low specs
[07:48] <agung> i see slax use the kde enviroment ....
[07:48] <lahaugen87> 512mb? Try Lubuntu...
[07:49] <agung> I use the xubuntu ... maybe instal the lubuntu desktop enviroment????
[07:50] <agung> i think slax can install in hdd partition .... but not ... just in the disk ....
[07:51] <FiestyGirlXD> how do i get company of heroes II working on ubuntu
[07:51] <FiestyGirlXD> this is annoying
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> FiestyGirlXD: did you try playonlinux?
[07:52] <Jordan_U> agung: What don't you like about XFCE?
[07:53] <FiestyGirlXD> i already own it and all
[07:53] <FiestyGirlXD> alright
[07:53] <FiestyGirlXD> how do i download linuxpolay
[07:54] <Jordan_U> FiestyGirlXD: Did you install it via Steam or through some other method?
[07:54] <lahaugen87> agung, founf a test on the interwebs where someone compared the RAM usage of different distros. http://mylinuxexplore.blogspot.no/2014/11/ubuntu-1410-vs-kubuntu-1410-vs-xubuntu.html
[07:54] <FiestyGirlXD> got it on steam
[07:54] <FiestyGirlXD> that's the method i used
[07:54] <Jordan_U> FiestyGirlXD: What happens when you try to play the game?
[07:55] <agung> i think xfce is weight for my pc ...
[07:55] <FiestyGirlXD> i get mad and fling my arms around
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> FiestyGirlXD: he means, what happens as error?
[07:56] <Jordan_U> FiestyGirlXD: This is your last warning about unproductive comments.
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> agung: lubuntu for nice and light
[07:58] <agung> yes , I'll try it later .... thank for your sugestion .... :)
[07:59] <zermizh> i just installed lubuntu.  pretty amazed by how small everything is
[07:59] <zermizh> totally resurrected my laptop
[07:59] <kfm2> does it auto resize resolution in vmware?
[08:00] <zermizh> haven't installed vmware yet, still pretty new to linux in general
[08:00] <Jordan_U> kfm2: Please clarify your question.
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> zermizh: this is an ubuntu support channel here, please only use for questions
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> zermizh: you can use #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss for other chat
[08:01] <kfm2> currently im trying to figure out why ubuntu doesnt auto-fit the resolution to the vmware window
[08:01] <kfm2> even though vmware guest tools are installed
[08:01] <agung> Can linux open the apk file .... i see the android use the linux kernel ...
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> agung: what are you trying to do exactly?
[08:03] <agung> i try to open , but not happend ..... i think the format not support
[08:04] <Jordan_U> kfm2: Please pastebin the output of "lsmod" and "pgrep vmware" from within the guest.
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> agung: is this what you need? http://xmodulo.com/how-to-run-android-emulator-on-ubuntu-or-debian.html
[08:05] <Jordan_U> agung: Short answer, no. Longer answer, it's possible but probably not worth the trouble. Why Android and Ubuntu both use a linux kernel, almost everything above the kernel is completely different.
[08:06] <Jordan_U> agung: *While
[08:07] <dani--> Jordan_U, can you recommend a piece of software to use with my tv tuner card? I've heard MythTV is the best.. but it's too heavy weight.. i need something i can shrink and leave on top on my desktop while i work on my computer.... any suggestions?
[08:07] <agung> yes thank you for your answer .......
[08:07] <Jordan_U> dani--: I haven't used any of such software before so no.
[08:07] <dani--> ah np
[08:08] <kfm2> Jordan_U, this is the output of lsmod, but "pgrep vmware" shows nothing: http://pastebin.com/uqwaVFN5
[08:13] <Jordan_U> kfm2: You have the vmware kernel modules inserted but the vmware-tools daemon isn't running. How did you install vmware-tools?
[08:13] <kfm2> Jordan_U, oh i switched setting to "Scale all window contents to match: "Unknown Display"", now it works :D
[08:13] <kfm2> Jordan_U, I extracted the archive in /media/$username and run the install.pl file as root
[08:28] <qbez> hello
[08:30] <trixtator> hi
[08:39] <pkircher> regarding juju-openstack single .. is there a way to change the vm sizes of the 3 nodes ?
[08:41] <craz> I am trying to get logitech harmony elite to work with my ubuntu PC, but I cant. It worked well with my old logitech harmony one, but now I am totally lost. Anyone able to offer some guidance?
[08:45] <Bassem> is there something work like hotspotshield for ubuntu
[08:47] <Jordan_U> Bassem: hotspotshield seems to just be a VPN, and yes most VPN solutions work with Ubuntu.
[08:48] <Bassem> Jordan_U, so is there one for ubuntu ? or i should install hotspotshield on ubuntu
[08:48] <Jordan_U> Bassem: Do you know what a VPN is?
[08:49] <Bassem> Jordan_U, yes i do, virtual private network
[08:49] <pkircher> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[08:49] <lahaugen87> Do you use it for privacy?
[08:49] <Bassem> Jordan_U, hotspotshield help me to browse the internet through vpn which give me more privacy
[08:50] <pkircher> openvpn will do the same
[08:50] <pkircher> just follow the wiki
[08:50] <Bassem> Jordan_U, so i wonder if there's a program do the same for ubuntu i just need to install hotspotshield on ubuntu
[08:50] <Jordan_U> Bassem: Great. Assuming that hotspotshield is just a VPN and nothing more, you can probably connect to it via network manager in Ubuntu without installing any additional software. If it's more than just that, then to be honest you probably don't want the other "features" of hotspotshield's software anyway.
[08:51] <lahaugen87> Bassem. Then pay for one... This one i basicly giving ALL your information to one company who live off selling your information
[08:51] <lahaugen87> If its free, you are the product...
[08:51] <pkircher> and if you pay a bill for the server .. its not privat anymore
[08:52] <pkircher> its traceable to you .. rather easyly
[08:52] <Bassem> Jordan_U, but i dont know the details of the vpn to connect to it how can get vpn details
[08:53] <lahaugen87> One rather easy way to provide some privacy is using 2 browsers. One for face etc and bank. And one for all the others.
[08:54] <lahaugen87> Atleast it protects you from threads like this. VPN do not. http://brettpthomas.com/online-porn-could-be-the-next-big-privacy-scandal.html
[08:54] <pkircher> lahaugen87: not true .. to the outside its still the same ip :)
[08:55] <lahaugen87> IP is not your biggest thread. Your unique browser is
[08:55] <pkircher> security comes in layers ..
[08:56] <pkircher> a vpn is useless .. same as just a different browser ..
[08:56] <pkircher> :)
[08:56] <pkircher> you need to layer it ..
[08:56] <ttal> i am running ubuntu 15.10, there is no way to re-arrange or remove PLaces in Nautilus right? If not can anyone recommend a file manager that can?
[08:56] <pkircher> anyway if you are consirn about your privacy .. use tor ..
[08:57] <pkircher> and ofc for your banking stuff a separat browser where you actualy have anony. sessions with empty cookies / localstore
[08:58] <mech422__> Hi all - can anyone tell me what this is? I was told we have a 'repo' at blah/blah/ubuntu/lucid|precise|trusty/binary/Package.gz - there's no 'dists' directory and no Releases file - just Packages.gz and a manifest?
[08:59] <mech422__> thats not really a repo is it? its like a dump of someone's apt directory ?
[09:00] <viju> What's the next stable version of Ubuntu?
[09:00] <lahaugen87> 16.04
[09:00] <viju> I mean the LTS version.
[09:00] <Ben64> the next version is the next lts, 16.04
[09:00] <viju> Okay, I'll opt for that one before 2017
[09:00] <Jordan_U> Bassem: Who are you trying to gain privacy from? If you use a VPN (with the exception of TOR) you are basically just changing who can see where you're browsing to. Without a proxy, your ISP can see where you're browsing to and with a proxy the company running the proxy service can see where you're browsing.
[09:01] <viju> Avoided to upgrade to 2014 LTS as it didn't make sense to upgrade from 2012
[09:01] <viju> It's just been  2 years since
[09:02] <Ben64> viju: yes, new LTS is every 2 years
[09:02] <Bassem> Jordan_U, some website are blocked in my location, and hotspotshield give me access to it
[09:02] <viju> I see.
[09:02] <Ben64> viju: support for LTS versions is 5 years, you can't wait 4 years each time or you'll run out
[09:03] <viju> Didn
[09:03] <viju> Didn't catch the last one.
[09:04] <viju> I mean why not release it after 4 years instead?
[09:04] <pkircher> because its how they do it ..
[09:05] <viju> It only added the confusion, so, I might wonder if I should upgrade again in 2018
[09:05] <Ben64> viju: normally you'd upgrade LTS every 2 years
[09:05] <pkircher> i dont even see the point talking about is right now +1 to that ..
[09:05] <Jordan_U> Bassem: OK. For that any VPN service should do. http://itshidden.eu/ is a free service that supports OpenVPN and so should work with network-manager out of the box. Note that I have no experience with this service, and for all I know they may be aweful.
[09:05] <pkircher> you keep the system uptodate anyway . so you gotta have some sort of orchistration in place
[09:06] <viju> I keep the whole system updated. But I don't know what upgrades provided from one LTS to another.
[09:06] <viju> are*
[09:07] <pkircher> just change the apt source and run a upgrade
[09:07] <viju> At the same time I don't want to be left behind and not upgrade because I don't understand some things.
[09:07] <pkircher> its mostly as simple as that
[09:08] <Bassem> Jordan_U, thanks alot i'll give it a look
[09:08] <Jordan_U> pkircher: That is *NOT* the correct way to upgrade Ubuntu, please be more careful about the advice you give.
[09:09] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | viju pkircher
[09:09] <Jordan_U> Bassem: You're welcome.
[09:09] <viju> Jordan_U, I'll have at a look at it.
[09:09] <viju> Thanks!
[09:10] <Jordan_U> viju: You're welcome.
[09:10] <viju> One more thing, if I upgrade as in the instructions, what happens to my files and other settings?
[09:11] <viju> I am more concerned about my files.
[09:11] <park> hi
[09:14] <geirha> viju: Apt will never touch any files in your homedir, if that's what you're afraid of
[09:15] <Jordan_U> viju: Note that even if you never upgrade, you should always have good backups of all of your important files in case your hard drive dies, or your house burns down, etc.
[09:17] <viju> Okay, I'll backup everything before the upgrade.
[09:17] <viju> Waiting for the 16.04 release.
[09:19] <Ben64> viju: you have two upgrades to do to get to 16.04 from 12.04
[09:20] <LibertyWeNeed> does anyone know a chatroom that is focused on gaming? I want to ask about call of duty.
[09:21] <viju> Ben64, I can't skip to 16.04?
[09:21] <Ben64> viju: nope
[09:30] <dylan14022012> ciao
[09:32] <Jordan_U> LibertyWeNeed: If you're using steam to get Call of Duty, then #ubuntu-steam might be able to help.
[09:36] <LibertyWeNeed> Jordan_U, Thank your reply. I wanted to ask what call of duty version is the one that is setup in a WWII era and has the American's V.S the Nazi's ?
[09:38] <Jordan_U> LibertyWeNeed: That's not Ubuntu related at all. This channel isn't a channel for finding other IRC channels, it's for Ubuntu support. For finding channels use alis, and for help learning how to use the network please join ##freenode.
[09:38] <Jordan_U> !alis | LibertyWeNeed
[09:40] <LibertyWeNeed> Thank you
[09:43] <Linus_> Hello, in Synaptic, it better to CHECK/UNCHECK:  "consider recommended as dependencies"
[09:44] <Linus_> i have seen guides give contradicting advice
[09:44] <Linus_> by default i think it comes CHECKed
[09:45] <zin_> Hi
[09:45] <zin_> need help regarding installation in ubuntu
[09:46] <hatsuneMiku> hi
[09:46] <zin_> i already have python 2.7.9 installed but when i am trying to install python-gnuradio-core .. it says
[09:47] <zin_> packages have unmet dependencies
[09:47] <zin_> depends:python (<2.7) but 2.7.9 is to be installed
[09:47] <zin_> unable to correct problem, you have held broken packages
[09:47] <zin_> how to fix it up
[09:47] <jul4> hi all i have problem connecting to my wifi..need help
[09:47] <Jordan_U> Linus_: It's somewhat personal preference. In one case you're more likely to run into missing functionality, in the other you're more likely to end up with packages you don't want or need. Which do you think would bother you more?
[09:48] <Linus_> what r the downsides of extra packages, besides Disk-space?
[09:49] <Jordan_U> Linus_: In most cases, that's it.
[09:49] <bijan_> How do I make an executable start automatically in ubuntu 14.04 Server?
[09:50] <Linus_> Jordan_U: well, i guess also, more updating time & amount.. could annoy some people
[09:50] <Jordan_U> Linus_: There are a few packages that start services by default, like openssh-server, mysql, apache2, but I wouldn't expect any of those to be part of recommends for another package.
[09:50] <Linus_> Jordan_U: but if it doesnt take up more RAM or CPU,  i guess it doen't matter
[09:51] <Linus_> Jordan_U: or do the "extra" packages have more security vulnerabilities?
[09:52] <Linus_> Jordan_U: i've noticed the hardcore-security guys, love super bare-boned systems
[09:54] <Linus_> i guess the reason, i'm asking is, i did turn OFF "recommended  packages " a while ago, and i'm wondering if that is causing problems now,   just like the error message zin got above.
[09:55] <Linus_> This is my error message:          :0: UserWarning: You do not have a working installation of the service_identity module: 'No module named pyasn1_modules.rfc2459'.  Please install it from <https://pypi.python.org/pypi/service_identity> and make sure all of its dependencies are satisfied.  Without the service_identity module and a recent enough pyOpenSSL to support it, Twisted can perform only rudimentary TLS client hostname verification.  Many valid
[09:55] <Linus_> certificate/hostname mappings may be rejected.
[09:58] <ezech_> hi, I want to change the ubuntu 15.10 theme to something less pinky/purply
[09:59] <kfm2> just inject more female hormones to like it
[09:59] <Linus_> Linus_: that error, is from when i log in to my VPN (but the VPN still works.  i looked it up, it is something about preventing MitM attack)
[10:01] <ezech_> kfm2, what if I am female hormones producer and I still hate it? :)
[10:01] <lele_> ciao
[10:01] <lele_> !list
[10:01] <kfm2> ezech_, then I would install cinnamon ;-D
[10:02] <ezech_> kfm2, I did, I like ubuntu better - just need some nice looking theme for unity
[10:02] <ezech_> or if you mean a desktop environment, I like unity better
[10:03] <ezech_> just too dead-body color scheme
[10:03] <elky> what.
[10:03] <gswebspace> ezech_:  how about ubuntu MATE ?
[10:03] <Naruni> hello, im trying to work libvirt via virt-manager and app armor is giving me quite a headache. when creating a VM i get the message Unable to complete install: 'error from service: ListActivatableNames: Failed to query AppArmor policy: No such file or directory'
[10:04] <k1l> ezech_: use another theme then.
[10:04] <k1l> !themes
[10:04] <Naruni> I've tried disabling app armor for libvirtd via: sudo apparmor_parser -R /etc/apparmor.d/usr.lib.libvirt.virt-aa-helper and sudo apparmor_parser -R /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.libvirtd
[10:05] <Naruni> if i restore the apparmor then it will create the VM
[10:05] <Naruni> im very confused about this behavior
[10:05] <ezech_> k1l, I'm browsing them but I can't find one that works (like doesn't have white font on light grey and other stupidity like that)
[10:06] <ezech_> which non-default you usually use?
[10:09] <Silenced> Memory card can't be accessed . Any way to access files of the memory card ?
[10:10] <ikonia> if it can't be accessed, how do you expect to access it ?
[10:10] <ikonia> "why" can't it be accessed
[10:10] <ezech_> Silenced, if your card is going bad try using it in the last device it was successfully working in
[10:13] <ezech_> ok, so a different question - is there a repository with unity themes or do I need to ancient-times-linux-engineer gtk themes made for other de's?
[10:13] <ikonia> not aware of specific unity themes
[10:14] <ikonia> there seems to be very little specific themes designed for unity
[10:14] <ikonia> not all the GTK themes seem to be picked up by unity
[10:14] <mech422__> ezech_: personally - personally, I like KDE, but there should be plenty of gtk/gnome themes around ?
[10:14] <mech422__> ezech_: doesn't gnome have some sort of widget for downloading new themes ?
[10:16] <DaHopi> Hello, my mobile broadband is no longer visible in NetworkManager. yesterday it worked.. ;) ubuntu 14.04, elitebook qualcam Adapter. any idea?
[10:16] <ikonia> DaHopi: is it a dongle ?
[10:16] <DaHopi> nope, internal HP adapter
[10:16] <ikonia> does it show up in the hardware list ?
[10:17] <mech422__> DaHopi: it doesn't have a 'hot key' to disable it in hardware does it? a lot of lappies have them...
[10:17] <DaHopi> jap hw is OK and syslog shows messages
[10:17] <ikonia> so it's just network manager not displaying it
[10:17] <ikonia> (in the applet I assume)
[10:17] <DaHopi> jap hotkey exists and is in, if i Boot win10 it works..
[10:18] <DaHopi> jeah i think its just a display Problem..
[10:18] <ikonia> can you manually add the device ?
[10:18] <ikonia> does it show up in the network-manager command line tool ?
[10:18] <DaHopi> if i Start network settings, theres no wwan option
[10:19] <DaHopi> ikonia: no
[10:19] <ezech_> mech422__, gnome does have a widget for themes, I'm using unity though
[10:19] <Silenced> ezech_: No man. Its not working in any device
[10:20] <Silenced> The problem is that its not even accessible
[10:20] <DaHopi> ikonia: is there a shell command that i can try?
[10:20] <ezech_> Silenced, replace it for a new one if you still have a receipt then, consider it broken
[10:20] <DaHopi> on ubuntu 12.04 had mmcli
[10:20] <ikonia> DaHopi: have you tried the network-manager command line interface ?
[10:20] <Silenced> I need the data in it. That's it
[10:20] <ikonia> Silenced: so there you go then
[10:20] <ikonia> Silenced: it's not working - it's dead
[10:21] <DaHopi> ikonia: i will try it.. have to take place in train.. mom..
[10:21] <Silenced> ikonia: Yup. Been trying from morning. Couldn't find a solution :/ Atleast if it mounts i can try something. Its not even mounting up :/
[10:22] <ikonia> Silenced: it won't mount if it can't be seen / dead
[10:41] <mech422__> ezech_: Sorry - I haven't really followed the whole unity thing - I thought it was just a gnome skin and some applets/'lenses' :-P
[10:41] <Volkodav> tomreyn:
[10:42] <Volkodav> tomreyn: I figured it out - the video package error is gone
[10:42] <k1l> mech422__: its a bit more. its another gnome-shell using compiz.
[10:43] <bestbirdaround> ImportError: No module named gi.repository
[10:43] <bestbirdaround> please help
[10:43] <mech422__> k1l: ahh... so shouldn't compiz/gnome themes work with it ? errr...or would it be gtk themes these days ?
[10:44] <k1l> bestbirdaround: what ubuntu exactly? what are you doing?
[10:44] <k1l> mech422__: since unity is somewhat different from the gnome gnome-shell you need themes made for unity.
[10:44] <bestbirdaround> k1l: 14.04, I messed up my libraries with pip (prob) trying to get some dev versions and get my hands dirty with gtk+ development
[10:44] <bestbirdaround> now no app using it is albe to work
[10:45] <k1l> sorry, i am not familiar with pip
[10:46] <mech422__> bestbirdaround: if you find out which package is messed up, you can purge/re-install the debs
[10:47] <mech422__> bestbirdaround: then if you play with pip - do it in an virtualenv :-)
[10:47] <k1l> bestbirdaround: are you sure you dont want pygtk?
[10:47] <bestbirdaround> mech422__: It's python2-gobject or python3-gi
[10:47] <bestbirdaround> but I reinstalled both and problem presists
[10:47] <bestbirdaround> that's why I'm here
[10:47] <mech422__> bestbirdaround: sounds like pip updated another module as well
[10:47] <k1l> yes, seems you need pygobjekt
[10:48] <bestbirdaround> mech422__: It's really old installation, I would like to try some stuff before reinstalling
[10:48] <Remind> Hey there!
[10:48] <Remind> Just curious if anyone's around that's willing to help, new user here running into a few issues during installation
[10:48] <bestbirdaround> at current state a lot of my favorite software is broken
[10:49] <k1l> bestbirdaround: is python-gi installed?
[10:49] <k1l> bestbirdaround: but pip uses its own software repos.
[10:49] <ezech_> ok, I've solved my themes issue with some noobslab repos and gnome themes applet which worked well enough - it even added some gnome wallpapers :)
[10:49] <bestbirdaround> k1l: I'm not sure it's broken by pip, might be as it was last think I was doing before I noticed
[10:50] <bestbirdaround> k1l: python3-gi is isntalled
[10:50] <k1l> bestbirdaround: python-gi
[10:50] <mech422__> bestbirdaround: ok - re-installing the python packages really shouldn't hurt but up to you - just remember, in the future - python lets you create 'virtualenvs' for playing with stuff like this - insulates your system libraries from any 'funny stuff'
[10:51] <Remind> I formatted my drive to ext4 (just to wipe it), tried a Ubuntu install with LUKS encryption and LVM. When I would try to put I would get an error that said the Filesystem could not be mounted: /boot/efi, I could Skip (S) or Manual Config (M). Neither one would always work, most times it leaded to me having to power off again. I also noticed that when I boot I get a ton of errors with nouveau that spam my screen. I'm running live right 
[10:51] <bestbirdaround> k1l: I'll try reinstalling python-gi I didn't notice that one was there as well
[10:51] <Remind> WHen I would try to reboot*
[10:52] <bestbirdaround> sudo apt-get install --reinstall python-gi
[10:52] <bestbirdaround> ImportError: No module named gi.repository
[10:52] <bestbirdaround> still
[10:52] <Remind> THis was a windows computer but I used gparted to wipe the drive. It still uses UEFI and Secure Boot
[10:52] <bestbirdaround> mech422__: how would I do that?
[10:52] <mech422__> bestbirdaround: http://docs.python-guide.org/en/latest/dev/virtualenvs/
[10:52] <bestbirdaround> The reinstall part.
[10:53] <k1l> bestbirdaround: most apt stuff depends on python. so if you break python by manual (or with pip) changing files that might not work anymore
[10:53] <Remind> Anyone have any suggestions by chance?
[10:53] <mech422__> bestbirdaround: oh sorry - um - I'd probably just purge/re-install all the python-gtk stuff
[10:54] <mech422__> bestbirdaround: the command line apt client shouldn't need gtk, so I don't think that will be a problem
[10:54] <bestbirdaround> mech422__: I tired a lot of doint that. I might have missed some packages but I don't think this will take me anywhere with more blind reinstalls.
[10:54] <bestbirdaround> mech422__: It doesn't.
[10:54] <bestbirdaround> doing*
[10:55] <bestbirdaround> Can I have another question.
[10:55] <mech422__> bestbirdaround: It might be easier then trying to track down if pip upgraded any of the 'C' libraries...
[10:55] <k1l> mech422__: the command line commands use python which doesnt work when python is messed up
[10:56] <remind> I formatted my drive to ext4 (just to wipe it), tried a Ubuntu install with LUKS encryption and LVM. When I would try to restart I would get an error that said the Filesystem could not be mounted: /boot/efi, I could Skip (S) or Manual Config (M). Neither one would always work, most times it leaded to me having to power off again. I also noticed that when I boot I get a ton of errors with nouveau that spam my screen. I'm running live ri
[10:56] <mech422__> k1l: its only his python gtk modules that are messed up isn't it ? eg 'python ' starts a REPL ?
[10:57] <Silenced_v2> Can i install a dual boot . I have ubuntu now.  Can i install Windows now ?
[10:57] <mech422__> remind: sounds like ya got one of them new fangled EFI bios's and you wiped something it was looking for ?
[10:57] <remind> mech422__: Can I do anything to fix that?
[10:57] <bestbirdaround> Silenced_v2: If you have free space on your drive then sure.
[10:57] <remind> mec422__: Please be gentle, new user here, haha
[10:57] <k1l> Silenced_v2: yes,
[10:58] <bestbirdaround> Silenced_v2: Mind that you will need linux live to fix grub afterwards.
[10:58] <mech422__> remind: I'd imagine a new release of one of the 'rescue' CDs might be able to help ?
[10:58] <k1l> mech422__: see 5minutes before in backlog. even apt-get doesnt work
[10:58] <mech422__> remind: I really don't know much about EFI
[10:58] <Silenced_v2> I need to reduce the size of /home . Will that affect the data in it ?
[10:58] <bestbirdaround> Silenced_v2: It is the program that allows you to boot to either of your OSes, windows will not install it
[10:58] <mech422__> k1l: oh - I though he meant he ran the apt-get and his gtk stuff still didn't work
[10:59] <bestbirdaround> Silenced_v2: Do it from live usb with gparted, it should allow you to shrink your partition without affecting your data BUT
[10:59] <remind> mec422__: I'm not sworn to UEFI, but when I  try to select Legacy it won't let me boot into the USB, even under boot options. Even if I pick the USB with the live ISO, it boots into my network controller it seems because it starts talking about DHCP
[10:59] <bestbirdaround> Silenced_v2: BUT please do a backup
[10:59] <Silenced_v2> But ?
[10:59] <mech422__> k1l: he could manually unpack the archived versions of the .debs...but icck....
[10:59] <Silenced_v2> Damn :/ i always hate this backing up stuff
[11:00] <net2014> hello
[11:00] <net2014> is it safe to press control alt f1? it seems like a terminal, but I never logged in
[11:01] <k1l> net2014: its called "tty1". its a console
[11:01] <bestbirdaround> mech422__, k1l any ideas?
[11:01] <Silenced_v2> Does anyone use guake here ?
[11:01] <remind> mec422__: Thanks for the help. I'm kind of at a stand still because I have no idea what to do. I don't have anymore files on this computer at all, however, after struggling to get into the live USB (it takes a lot of restarts because it just won't make it to the install), all I want is a fresh install with Ubuntu working :(
[11:01] <bestbirdaround> I saw you both talking about my problem.
[11:02] <bestbirdaround> net2014: it is safe, you can get out of ther with ctrl+alt+f7, those are just your graphic environments
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> Silenced_v2  i tried guake once, but dropped it, because of keybinding issues i couldnt change
[11:02] <bestbirdaround> it's just normal console you are seeing
[11:03] <Silenced_v2> MonkeyDust i guess those key binding bugs are fixed now
[11:03] <k1l> bestbirdaround: revert the changes you made. that is all i can say ./
[11:03] <bestbirdaround> k1l: easier said then done
[11:03] <k1l> bestbirdaround: sadly yes :/
[11:03] <net2014> bestbirdaround, once a game stuck, pressed control alt f1 then control alt f7 and game quit, how is that possible?
[11:03] <bestbirdaround> k1l: I think I'll start backing up my data and proparing my body for 5h of configuring and installing stuff
[11:03] <Silenced_v2> Could someone supply with any tutorial or link on how to use tmux ?
[11:04] <mech422__> bestbirdaround: depends how big a hammer you want to take to it...you could boot a live/rescue cd and use that to recover ?
[11:04] <bestbirdaround> mech422__: at that point I would rather do clean installation
[11:04] <remind> Would anyone else have an idea: I can't boot into a fresh install of Ubuntu because of 2 reasons it seems (And I use to have Windows, but I don't dual boot): Filesystem could not be mounted: /boot/efi, and a ton of nouveau errors that spam. I can get the live USB to work but it takes a lot of restarts until it finally takes
[11:04] <k1l> bestbirdaround: you might want to change your "testing environment" for an easier rollback. like using snapshots or vms
[11:04] <django_> hey all im trying to do this: http://fbksoft.com/6-tips-to-make-eclipse-lighter-prettier-and-more-efficient/
[11:05] <mech422__> remind: can you just disable network boot in your bios to get the usb to boot ?
[11:05] <remind> mech422__: Using legacy?
[11:05] <bestbirdaround> k1l: I don't have one. It's my home PC for games and stuff. Next time I start installing random libraries with stuff outside of apt-get
[11:05] <mech422__> remind: shouldn't have too - you can usually just tell your NICS not to net boot
[11:05] <remind> mech422__: I wouldn't mind using legacy, to be honest I don't know too much of a difference between Legacy, UEFI, and UEFI with CSM. Currently it's set to UEFI and has Secure Boot on
[11:05] <mech422__> remind: its usually in the 'boot order' stuff
[11:05] <bestbirdaround> I'll make sure to sandbox it somethow or prepare a rollback
[11:06] <mech422__> Does Secure boot work with linux ? I thought you needed some signed cert for that to work ?
[11:06] <remind> mech422__: The whole network manager thing only happens if I switch to Legacy. When I switch to UEFI it boots, but I get all of those errors I talked about. I figured with the whole 'could not be mounted /boot/efi' it was related to using UEFI
[11:06] <k1l> mech422__: secureboot works with ubuntu
[11:07] <mech422__> k1l: oh, cool
[11:07] <bestbirdaround> k1l: Didn't UEFI too with newest one
[11:07] <bestbirdaround> ?
[11:07] <mech422__> k1l: did ubuntu pay for a cert ? or do all linuxes work with it now ?
[11:08] <remind> What else could cause the /boot/efi not mounting errors that's preventing me from booting? I thought maybe there was a trace of the Windows MBR or something but I formatted/deleted all of the partitions using GParted
[11:08] <k1l> iirc all big linux distributions paid for a cert. but i am not too much into that secureboot/uefi topic
[11:09] <mech422__> remind: I _think_ that might be part of the problem - I seem to recall something about EFI using a disk partition for bootloaders and utilitys ?
[11:09] <mech422__> remind: best thing I can say, is google linux UEFI install ??
[11:10] <k1l> !uefi
[11:10] <django_> I ran this command: tar -zxvf eclipse-platform-4.6M4-linux-gtk.tar.gz  where do i find the output?
[11:10] <remind> I just saw "QuickBoot/FastBoot and Intel Smart Response Technology (SRT) should be disabled"
[11:11] <remind> But without windows, how could I even do that?
[11:11] <mech422__> remind: bios setup screen ?
[11:11] <mech422__> remind: my machien is actually UEFI and has all kinds of stuff I don't touch in the bios :-P
[11:11] <remind> mech422__: There's nothing about fast boot in my BIOS, I saw that before and went through every menu
[11:12] <mech422__> remind: quickboot/fastboot is a bios function though..??
[11:12] <mech422__> remind: that skips the RAM check and stuff
[11:12] <remind> Mech422__: I couldn't find it anywhere
[11:12] <k1l> remind: please see the bots message for uefi
[11:12] <mech422__> remind: it might be called 'POST' - fast post or quick post or something
[11:14] <DaHopi> ikonia: im back, now on a long range train..
[11:14] <DaHopi> ;)
[11:15] <DaHopi> ikonia: any idea to solve my broadband issue?
[11:15] <DaHopi> ikonia: i dont have the nework-manager command line command..
[11:15] <Tommii> remind: hey man
[11:15] <DaHopi> nm-tool doesnt shows wwan adapter..
[11:17] <Tommii> remind:   maybe try updating BIOS/EFI?
[11:19] <Tommii> remind: maybe try installing without encryption, to see if that even works
[11:21] <django_> hey all im trying to install a bare bone eclipse. I installed platform binaries and ran the tar.gz but when i run the executable nothing happens
[11:21] <bekks> django_: How did you "install" it?
[11:21] <LostSoul_> Hi
[11:21] <django_> from here http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/R-4.5.1-201509040015/#PlatformRuntime
[11:21] <django_> bekks,
[11:22] <haidar> hiii
[11:22] <LostSoul_> I setup ldap(libnss-ldap) + kerbos
[11:22] <bestbirdaround> django_: use ubuntu-make
[11:22] <LostSoul_> I gave users access to server from AD
[11:22] <django_> bestbirdaround, how?
[11:22] <haidar> please I need help in Ubunto
[11:22] <django_> this: ./configure && make && sudo make install ? bestbirdaround
[11:22] <haidar> please I need help in Ubunto
[11:22] <haidar> please I need help in Ubunto
[11:22] <haidar> please I need help in Ubunto
[11:22] <haidar> please I need help in Ubunto
[11:22] <bestbirdaround> django_: It's cool tool from ubuntu to install popular IDEs and developing evironments
[11:23] <LostSoul_> Now, my samba users can only join if they are accessibly by ssh/ldap - what can I do to give them access based on AD?
[11:23] <bestbirdaround> django_: what is your version of ubuntu?
[11:23] <django_> bestbirdaround, then thing is i have eclipse installed, id like to install a bare bone version like how they explain here: http://fbksoft.com/6-tips-to-make-eclipse-lighter-prettier-and-more-efficient/
[11:23] <shaffl> hi there! is there a way to preserve modification time of a directory when a file located in that directory is deleted?
[11:23] <bekks> django_: Download the official Eclipse tarball, unpack it, done.
[11:24] <mech422__> django_: btw - the jetbrains ide is much nicer then eclipse, last I looked - and its free now for android development
[11:24] <bestbirdaround> django_: run executable with terminal, there must be some output
[11:24] <bekks> django_: No need for installing something, you can use Eclipse from your home, which is actually the most sane way, when it comes to installing upgrades, etc.
[11:24] <django_> *confused*
[11:25] <bestbirdaround> django_: Open terminal, using cd naviagate to place you extracted tarball, run the executable you mentioned with ./executablename
[11:25] <bestbirdaround> give us the output of that
[11:27] <django_> https://gist.github.com/jk16/e08da9a02eb0f043f491
[11:28] <bestbirdaround> django_: and it isn't running?
[11:28] <django_> no
[11:28] <django_> could be because i already have an eclipse installed?
[11:29] <bestbirdaround> no further erros or anything? and what is -arch x86 doing in there on another note
[11:29] <bestbirdaround> but then I know nothing of java flags
[11:30] <haidar>  I want to make a connection between virtual machine manager in an Ubuntu desktop with an Ubuntu server using SSH connection and I have these error in attachment above can you help me please
[11:30] <haidar>  I want to make a connection between virtual machine manager in an Ubuntu desktop with an Ubuntu server using SSH connection and I have these error in attachment above can you help me please
[11:31] <haidar> the error message
[11:31] <ikonia> haidar: stop spamming
[11:31] <ikonia> you just need to ask something once, not spam it over and over
[11:31] <bestbirdaround> django_: so I screened the link to fbksoft bla bla bla barebone eclipse
[11:31] <haidar> sI am sorry
[11:31] <bestbirdaround> what exactly did you do?
[11:32] <django_> bestbirdaround, ok so where it says to download the runstime binaries i went here: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/R-4.5.1-201509040015/#PlatformRuntime
[11:32] <haidar> please help
[11:32] <haidar> the error message
[11:33] <mcphail> haidar: no-one will help if you keep being annoying and spamming the channel. Instead of yelping for help, try to provide some coherent details about your problem
[11:33] <King_Hual> "in attachment above"
[11:33] <bekks> haidar: Can you state your issue including the error message in one sentence please? Without repeating yourself that often?
[11:33] <ikonia> it's the reason I'm not helping
[11:33] <ikonia> I'm not rewarding someone spamming the channel over and over
[11:34] <bestbirdaround> django_: so then? you picked correct one?
[11:34] <django_> I think so hah
[11:34] <django_> actually idk
[11:35] <bestbirdaround> x86 GTK+ or x86_64 GTK+
[11:35] <bestbirdaround> most likely
[11:35] <bestbirdaround> on any sane machine
[11:36] <haidar> unable to connect to libvirt connot recieve data:ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused
[11:37] <bekks> haidar: Then start a ssh server on the computer you want to connect to.
[11:37] <bestbirdaround> django_: check if uname -a gives you x86_64
[11:37] <bestbirdaround> if so download x86_64/GTK one
[11:38] <mech422__> you generally have to tell libvirtd if you want it to listen on tcp ports as well, don't you? it defaults to localhost only I think
[11:38] <haidar> sorry sir can you send my an email no one in my country know ubuntu and this is my project
[11:39] <django_> Linux django 3.19.0-47-generic #53~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 18 16:09:14 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:39] <haidar> I have a little information in ubuntu
[11:39] <vifon> Hello. I recently upgraded Ubuntu Server 15.04 to 15.10. On 15.04 the microphone LED indicator of my laptop (Dell Latitude E7450) was working flawlessly out-of-the-box. After the upgrade the LED is always turned off regardless of the microphone state. Any ideas what might be the cause?
[11:39] <haidar> this is my email haidar_hisham@hotmail.com
[11:40] <vifon> I'm toggling it with "amixer set Capture toggle" if that matters.
[11:40] <django_> bestbirdaround, didntwork :/
[11:40] <bestbirdaround> django_: which part?
[11:40] <bestbirdaround> downloading and executing that x86_64 one?
[11:41] <django_> downloaded eclipse-platform-4.5.1-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[11:41] <haidar> mr. bekks how you can help me please
[11:42] <bekks> haidar: I will not send you any email. I told you what to do, in this channel.
[11:42] <haidar> ok can you replay that please
[11:42] <haidar> in details
[11:42] <bekks> < bekks> haidar: Then start a ssh server on the computer you want to connect to.
[11:43] <umby62> ciao list
[11:43] <haidar> sorry Mr.bekks I don't understand
[11:43] <django_> ohh bestbirdaround i downloaded the wrong one
[11:44] <bekks> haidar: What is your native language?
[11:44] <haidar> Arabic
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> !arabic
[11:44] <django_> bestbirdaround, it works!
[11:44] <django_> bestbirdaround, now i download the JDT Runtime Binary?
[11:44] <haidar> thanks
[11:47] <mech422__> I wonder if people using non-latin languages have to use a larger font size? that arabic looks awful hard to read at my normal font size?
[11:48] <mech422__> anyway - time for bed - have fun everyone :-)
[11:49] <bestbirdaround> django_: I don't know I don't even use eclipse.
[11:51] <cluelessperson> bestbirdaround, yeah... screw eclipse.
[11:52] <trixtator> why do you want to use eclipse?
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:53] <artois> BluesKaj: heyo
[11:53] <artois> trixtator: who's doing that?
[11:53] <bekks> django_: How did you install eclipse, finally?
[11:53] <BluesKaj> hi artois
[11:54] <deltagon> eclipse isn't that bad... at school, we have to work with netbeans
[11:54] <trixtator> artois, not me ;)
[11:55] <DaHopi> ikonia: purge and re-installation of gobi-laoder did the trick.. thanx
[11:55] <artois> trixtator: you sane person you
[11:56] <artois> trixtator: ah, must be django_
[11:56] <django_> well i have eclipse, what i want is bare bone and i installed using Linux (x86_64/GTK+)
[11:56] <django_> that version
[11:56] <django_> now i need to add java to it: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops4/R-4.5.1-201509040015/#JDTRuntime
[11:59] <Neo31> Hello, We are building a new local community gnulug, do you think our team can use some help from Ubuntu trainters on IRC?
[12:00] <artois> Neo31: hrmm?
[12:00] <pantato> is google chrome available on arm linux platform?
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> Neo31  that's a question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:01] <artois> pantato: chromium is
[12:02] <artois> pantato: and the binary bits that chrome uses for things like... Netflix, for example, should also be
[12:04] <pantato> i thought netflix didn't work on anything but chrome
[12:04] <pantato> i'm thinking about grabbing a pine64 to replace my living room pc
[12:07] <pantato> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3atmhw/running_netflix_on_linux_on_arm/
[12:07] <pantato> doesnt look promising =\
[12:11] <gswebspace> pantato: which os are you plan to run on pine64 ?
[12:12] <gswebspace> planning*
[12:13] <pi______> raspbian on pi 2 also works good
[12:14] <k1l> for a general linux comparison better join ##linux
[12:14] <artois> pantato: not for nothing, but reddit is not exactly where the most technologically knowledgeable people are
[12:14] <artois> pantato: what I already told you makes the top rated comment look quite wrong, for example
[12:15] <artois> pantato: anyway, you should also consider that buying a little x86 computer will only cost you about $40 more up front over a raspberry pi
[12:16] <artois> intel caught up, it's close enough there's not a great argument to use arm for media centers anymore
[12:16] <artois> if you literally have $50 and not $90, perhaps
[12:16] <artois> but IME people spending time and money on a media PC do in fact have an extra $40
[12:19] <eviladmin> pantato: works in chromium too
[12:25] <artois> I wonder if there are any little arm SBCs that can playback HEVC reasonably well yet
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> artois: maybe the #ubuntu-arm guys know something?
[12:30] <artois> sorry, just thining out loud
[12:31] <artois> I don't really care personally (see above about x86 vs arm, etc.)
[12:31] <hicoleri> Why is do-release-upgrade saying that there is no new release (15.04) even if there is one? (i'm running lubuntu 14.04)
[12:32] <k1l> hicoleri: you need to upgrade to 14.10 first
[12:32] <k1l> and 14.10 is dead already
[12:33] <hicoleri> so 14.10 will kill my system?
[12:33] <k1l> no. but first think about if you really want to leave the LTS track. that means you need to upgrade every 6 months.
[12:35] <hicoleri> I actually want to upgrade to 15.04, so upgrading to 14.10 wont do any harm right?
[12:35] <Aitor> hi
[12:35] <k1l> hicoleri: why you want 15.04?
[12:35] <mcphail> hicoleri: 15.04 is days away from being end-of-life
[12:36] <Aitor> y want to install ubuntu with another OS  together help plz
[12:36] <k1l> hicoleri: (you can have the 15.04 kernel already in 14.04 and 15.04 is dead on february anyway and you need to upgrade to 15.10 then)
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | Aitor
[12:36] <k1l> Aitor: make partitions for the OSs and install them
[12:37] <Aitor> i have look a lot of web pages on the internet but they install ubntu desktop but when i download it i have the same as normal ubuntu
[12:37] <hicoleri> k1l:I didnt see that 15.04 wasnt an LTS release. Sorry about that.
[12:38] <Aitor> thanks for helping me but i have questions :S
[12:39] <k1l> Aitor: what questions? please be specific
[12:39] <bekks> Aitor: Then ask a question which actually makes sense :)
[12:39] <Aitor> if i make a partition and i install ubuntu on a partition it will work?
[12:39] <Aitor> sry :S
[12:39] <k1l> Aitor: you still need a bootloader that loads ubuntu, but yes
[12:41] <Aitor> i dont know 100% what is a bootloader... i am a noob i know...
[12:42] <Silenced_v2> Aitor : Install ubuntu and do boot repair
[12:43] <k1l> Aitor: the ubuntu installer will install a bootloader.
[12:43] <Aitor> ok so i only have to install ubuntu?
[12:43] <k1l> Aitor: but the other OS might overwrite that bootloader. so it depends on the other OS how it handles that
[12:44] <lahaugen87> If you already have Windows, and want to add Ubuntu, then yes
[12:44] <Aitor> i have windows 7
[12:45] <Aitor> i will have any problem?
[12:46] <solvarr> as long as the bootloader is installed in the right place, no you won't
[12:47] <Aitor> what does it means?
[12:47] <homa> hi my friends
[12:48] <pantato> sorry, i plan to run ubuntu on pine64
[12:48] <pantato> you can't watch netflix on chromium...
[12:49] <k1l> Aitor: make place for (at least) one partition. install ubuntu into that. that is ok
[12:49] <pantato> http://askubuntu.com/questions/555615/netflix-on-chromium
[12:49] <pantato> eviladmin:
[12:49] <pantato> artois:
[12:49] <pantato> gswebspace:
[12:50] <Aitor> ok and i have to install ubuntu desktop or normal version?
[12:50] <k1l> pantato: use chrome for netflix
[12:50] <pantato> k1l: it's not available on arm
[12:50] <k1l> Aitor: any version you want
[12:50] <Aitor> and which are the differences between them?
[12:51] <lahaugen87> What do you mean by normal?
[12:51] <k1l> Aitor: the preinstalled desktop that included another set of standard apps
[12:51] <Aitor> okay
[12:52] <Aitor> thanks a lot
[12:52] <artois> pantato: again, full of wrong information
[12:52] <artois> pantato: listen already :p
[12:53] <Aitor> i should install 14.04 or 15.10?
[12:53] <artois> Aitor: I'd go with the latest
[12:54] <k1l> Aitor: do you want to upgrade every 6 months?
[12:54] <artois> realistically you should be updating more frequently than that
[12:54] <k1l> artois: please no.
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> artois: leave the users the choice
[12:54] <k1l> dont confuse with updates and ubuntu release upgrades.
[12:55] <Linus_> Aitor: i'd go with 15.10, but then when 16.04 comes out soon, stick with that, cuz it is LTS
[12:55] <artois> lotuspsychje: couldn't take it away if I tried, could I?
[12:55] <artois> Linus_: makes no sense =)
[12:55] <artois> if 15.10 is suitable, so shall 16.10 be
[12:55] <pantato> artois: okay, i believe you. Can you be a tad more descriptive though?
[12:55] <Linus_> artois: cuz even if you get 14.04,  you upgrade soon, anyway
[12:55] <Aitor> but now i dontknow becouse 14.04 is lts but 15.10 is the newest........
[12:55] <artois> pantato: sure, about what in particular?
[12:56] <k1l> artois: are you aware of the ubuntu release cycles?
[12:56] <pantato> as to how i integrate / find the appriopriate binary bits so that i can run netflix on an ARM environment
[12:56] <artois> Aitor: do you know what lts entails?
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> ok lets not have a discussion here, but actually help users make a choice
[12:56] <artois> k1l: mmhmm
[12:56] <pantato> or maybe a link pointing me in the right direction
[12:56] <k1l> Aitor: go with 14.04
[12:56] <Aitor> entails?
[12:56] <artois> pantato: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60133/where-can-i-find-chromium-binary-tarballs
[12:56] <k1l> Aitor: beginners tend  to not upgrade that often so you run into troubles. LTS is better for beginners
[12:56] <Aitor> k1l probably
[12:57] <artois> pantato: they can apparently also be extracted from the chrome deb
[12:58] <artois> Aitor: what LTS means for you
[12:58] <Linus_> Aitor: oh,well, only if you DON"T plan on upgrading to 16.04.  ---then get 14.04
[12:58] <Aitor>  Long Term Support XD i know that
[12:58] <k1l> Linus_: you can upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04
[12:58] <pantato> artois: so i install chromium, then i find some libs from the x86 package? i'm confused
[12:58] <pantato> i know netflix doesn't work on chromium alone
[12:59] <k1l> but talking a beginner into a non-LTS where he needs to upgrade because is OS is dead in 6 months is not the good advice
[12:59] <artois> pantato: I know you think you know that
[12:59] <Silenced_v2> Whats the difference between chrome and chromium ?
[12:59] <artois> Silenced_v2: chrome is closed source, with proprietary bits added on top of chromium
[12:59] <k1l> Silenced_v2: chrome is based on chromium and google adds some stuff there.
[12:59] <Aitor> chrome is based on chromium
[12:59] <artois> chromium is the more Unixy way
[12:59] <Linus_> k1l: what are the benefits of 14.04 over 15.10, ---if you are going to upgrade to 16.04 soon?  i dont see any
[13:00] <pantato> ugh i'll go look right now on my machine
[13:00] <k1l> Linus_: you dont need to upgrade in 6 months because your OSs repos are shut down
[13:00] <Aitor> chromium dont consume RAM as chrome
[13:00] <Silenced_v2> Oh okay.  So its better to remove chrome then
[13:00] <artois> Silenced_v2: basically
[13:00] <artois> Chromium is much better packaged, at last for Unix systems
[13:00] <artois> on top of being less encumbered by things you might not even want anyway
[13:00] <bekks> "much better packages" - sounds like FUD.
[13:01] <Aitor> is better chromium
[13:01] <artois> bekks: packageD
[13:01] <k1l> Linus_: stay in here for years and you will see that beginners will not upgrade anytime soon. so they have a longer timeframe to get used to and make the upgrade when they want
[13:01] <Felishia> help
[13:01] <artois> a lot of distro devs spent a long time picking chromium's build process apart so it wouldn't suck as much
[13:01] <bekks> artois: Sounds like even more FUD.
[13:01]  * artois shrugs
[13:01] <Linus_> k1l: exactly, so this is no benefit to 14.04 over 15.10 (if you plan on 16.04)
[13:01] <Felishia> I need to modify a pdf in ubuntu
[13:01] <Felishia> in the sense that I have to center the content
[13:02] <artois> bekks: http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html
[13:02] <Felishia> when I print it the content is so in the left that it's cropped
[13:02] <artois> not that you deserve it =)
[13:02] <Felishia> I'm not sure what to do
[13:02] <k1l> Linus_: you missed my points. its about beginners and the timeframe of upgrade
[13:02] <artois> Felishia: print with what, acroread?
[13:02] <Felishia> artois, with a printer
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> Felishia: inkscape perhaps?
[13:02] <artois> Felishia: ...with what software
[13:03] <Aitor> k1l:  i will do what yo say, i will install 14.04
[13:03] <bekks> artois: I dont see any relevance to Ubuntu, seeing your link talking about Chroium under Fedora. Unless you can prove that the Chrome .deb files for Ubuntu have severe packaging problem, I still consider your theory as being FUD.
[13:04] <Felishia> lotuspsychje, that actually worked o.o
[13:04] <artois> bekks: not reading that =)
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Felishia
[13:04] <k1l> artois: please dont give false advice because you asume ubuntu works as fedora does.
[13:04] <artois> FYI, acroread doesn't always print as well (specifically regarding centering) as other things (like evince)
[13:05] <artois> k1l: doesn't even seem you've been following the conversation
[13:05] <bekks> artois: I bet he did.
[13:05] <artois> bekks: betting is not a factor
[13:05] <allizom> bekks: define "severe packaging problem"
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> artois: why do you always get this attitude in #ubuntu
[13:06] <artois> lotuspsychje: probably because you always read my text as an angry actor would? Got me
[13:06] <bekks> artois: Define the ubuntu relevance of your Fedora chromium crap for Ubuntu.
[13:06] <k1l> artois: its not the first time in last minutes your advice was based on not knowing ubuntu specifics.
[13:06] <artois> bekks: Ubuntu does not exist in a vacuum
[13:06] <Guest13598> hello everybody
[13:06] <artois> k1l: you're right, it's not the first, because there hasn't been a first
[13:06] <Linus_> Aitor: k1l  15.10 lasts until July 2016.  so just upgrade to 16.04 by then. (anytime between April - July)
[13:06] <artois> Guest13598: hi
[13:06] <bekks> artois: I'm not going to waste my time with your any further. *plonk*
[13:07] <artois> bekks: =)
[13:07] <Guest13598> *****************
[13:08] <Guest13598> hi "som sip"
[13:08] <k1l> Linus_: last time now: stay in here for a year and see how often beginners upgrade in the first months. its pure experience to let the beginner give more room to decide when to upgrade to 16.04 then to have a fixed deadline in less than 9 months.
[13:08] <artois> Guest13598: hi again
[13:08] <Aitor> i will install 14.04 and when 16.04 appears i will see...
[13:09] <k1l> Linus_: please stay in here and see how many user come in here having a EOL ubuntu. you would be amazed how often that happens. so please dont think because you can and will upgrade easily that beginners can do the same
[13:09] <artois> Aitor: you'll be fine
[13:09] <Aitor> yes i hope
[13:10] <flux242> knows someone if the power management is going to be fixed in 16.04? iirc they didn't wont the pm-utils quirks anymore without offering any alternative
[13:10] <Aitor> this chat is better than for example microsoft help chat....
[13:10] <Linus_> k1l: i agree with that:  if you don't want to be worried about upgrading to 16.04 by the summer, then yes, 14.04.  My point is , that is the *Only* reason to choose 14.04 (not worrying about upgraedes)
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> flux242: #ubuntu+1 for xenial
[13:11] <Linus_> or yes, you can install 16.04 Alpha right now, that actually worked for my friend who was having Wireless issues.
[13:12] <artois> flux242: I don't think it was about quirks, just that systemd replaced them with something systemd ate, IIRC
[13:13] <flux242> i have hacked the pm-utils to work wit the systemd locally but would like to know what's the proper solution
[13:13] <Aitor> i need an antimalware on ubuntu?
[13:13] <artois> depends on how you hacked, it, probably
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav | Aitor
[13:14] <flux242> artois: no it's irrelevant
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> Aitor: also try rkhunter
[13:14] <k1l> Aitor: not like you are used to on ubuntu. run the updates regulary and dont install software from websites you dont know
[13:14] <k1l> lotuspsychje: rkhunter is not a beginners tool :/
[13:14] <artois> flux242: if you say so
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> k1l: rkhunter just scan the whole pc...nothing hard about it
[13:15] <artois> rkhunter will give you a lot of false positives
[13:15] <artois> and can't be foolproof anyway
[13:15] <k1l> lotuspsychje: yeah, but what helps a long list of results if one doesnt know what to do then
[13:15] <artois> if you want to be paranoid, use AIDE from the outset
[13:15] <Aitor> ok thanks everyone
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> im not the one asking for anti malware...
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> and its an official ubuntu package
[13:16] <Guest9132> how many times will you log in "Macscr"
[13:16] <artois> just sayin' =)
[13:16] <k1l> its a common windows habbit to want to have antimalware software
[13:16] <neil_> I have this .htaccess file ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/14630418/ ... I want to get calls like /test -> /cgi-bin/test ... but it isn't working ... but using /cgi-bin/test directly does ... what am I doing wrong?
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> k1l: some recent linux rootkits/malware showing up clamav's database...so never say never
[13:17] <Aitor> so which i should install?
[13:18] <artois> Aitor: install clamav if you want
[13:18] <artois> Aitor: you will rarely if ever need it
[13:18] <k1l> !antivirus | Aitor
[13:18] <artois> it's nice to have, if for only the reason the bot mentioned
[13:18] <Guest9132> hi everybody
[13:18] <artois> hi 9132
[13:18] <Aitor> okokokok
[13:18] <Aitor> thanks
[13:20] <artois> Aitor: the end of the page is this: if you see an ad to buy antivirus for Linux, your time would be best spent ignoring it =)
[13:20] <Aitor> ok i understand
[13:21] <Aitor> and why there are any viruses on linux? explanaition for noob plz
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> Aitor: like on every Os there are virusses, malware and rootkits
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> Aitor: best to have a healthy paranoia while connected to internet
[13:22] <Aitor> my brain will explode....
[13:23] <neil_> Aitor, they exist but it is harder to get them
[13:23] <Aitor> ok i will have it XD
[13:23] <Linus_> Aitor: you dont need antivirus on Linux
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> Aitor: well dont worry too much, but surely be prudent also
[13:23] <Aitor> okok
[13:23] <k1l> Aitor: the strategy is that ubuntu ships updates for the softwares which fix securityissues. and you dont install code from websites you dont know what it does.
[13:23] <Katronix> Greetings all, was wondering if someone could at least point me in the correct direction to play bluray in Ubuntu that doesn't require ripping it?
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> Aitor  because linux is open source, a virus would be immediately removed from the system
[13:24] <Aitor> okokok
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> !bluray | Katronix
[13:24] <Linus_> Aitor: yes, listen to k1l , only install software from the Repos in 99% of cases. and you will be fine
[13:25] <Aitor> okok
[13:26] <Zeljko> "Unable to access 395GB volume"  how to solve it ?
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> !details | Zeljko
[13:27] <artois> Aitor: some combination of how we do package management, of how the source is open, and of how fewer people are angry at the OS
[13:27] <Zeljko> I've been installed ubuntu on my pc, and now, i can't access to my second partition
[13:27] <k1l> Zeljko: is that a ntfs partition?
[13:27] <Zeljko> k1l: i mean yes.
[13:27] <k1l> Zeljko: can you pastebin the whole erro message?
[13:28] <Aitor> ok thanks
[13:28] <Zeljko> of course k1
[13:29] <Katronix> so I suppose BluRay support is non existant under Ubuntu? :(
[13:29] <hrob2> hi
[13:30] <hrob2> im on freenode -- maybe a bad idea --- sometimes noone sees me message -- should I join through ubuntu irc server
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> hrob2  we see you
[13:30] <k1l> hrob2: that is the same
[13:30] <Zeljko> k1l: http://postimg.org/image/yj264ltzb/  look at the image
[13:30] <neil_> hrob2, sometime no one has an answer
[13:30] <lahaugen87> Katronix, Tried VLC and installed libbluray from git??
[13:31] <k1l> Zeljko: is there still a windows on that pc?
[13:31] <hrob2> MonkeyDust: k1l : neil_ :   its confusing,  maybe there is an irc protocol for testing a connection --  I just get this spooky feeling sometimes
[13:31] <Zeljko> k1l: yes, but its local disc d: partition
[13:31] <k1l> hrob2: try the ##test channel
[13:32] <Katronix> lahaugen87, I tried using it but during configure it came up with the error "No package 'libxml-2.0' found" however as far as I could tell I did have it installed
[13:32] <k1l> Zeljko: the issue is that windows doesnt unmount the ntfs partitions properly to have a faster reboot time. but if you want to mount that ntfs then you cant. so if there is a windows disable that "fast boot" setting on windows
[13:32] <hrob2> k1l:  thanks!
[13:33] <Aitor>  bye everyone and thanks for helping me
[13:33] <Zeljko> k1l: i need to disable fast boot on windows and it would work properly ?
[13:33] <k1l> Zeljko: yes.
[13:34] <hrob2> ok so I have a python script that use the python evdev binding
[13:35] <k1l> Zeljko: something like this http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/$CXIV/ATTACH-AEEE-8Y4KMQ/$FILE/win8.png
[13:35] <neil_> Zeljko, i been battling windows10 for the last couple of days, even it backup method is hard to use, and the recovery CD will not boot without changing the bois
[13:35] <lahaugen87> Katronix. Sounds like you need to add omething when you build it
[13:35] <hrob2> reading and writing directly from dev/input is forbidden to users  on ubuntu -- I guess all distros
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> hrob2  better ask in a python channel
[13:36] <Katronix> lahaugen87, yep figured that one out, now trying to solve the rest :)
[13:37] <hrob2> MonkeyDust:  yeah, I agree, ... however... this is in the applications layers of linux... python doesnt allocate resources
[13:37] <neil_> I have this .htaccess file ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/14630418/ ... I want to get calls like /test -> /cgi-bin/test ... but it isn't working ... but using /cgi-bin/test directly does ... what am I doing wrong?
[13:37] <hrob2> MonkeyDust:  I imagined ubuntu might have a "recommended" way of giving a resource to an application
[13:37] <hrob2> MonkeyDust:   maybe more of a #kernel question
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> hrob2  #ubuntu-app-devel, perhaps
[13:38] <hrob2> MonkeyDust: yeah, noboday there like for ages
[13:38] <hrob2> MonkeyDust: spooky
[13:38] <aftreb> how can i make my gnu/linux laptop automatically remove a file after a second rebooting?
[13:39] <Zeljko> k1l: i cant run windows on pc....only i have Ubuntu in my options..
[13:39] <k1l> Zeljko: so you dont have a windows anymore on that pc?
[13:39] <neil_> aftreb, the only way I can think of is have a file with a count in it.
[13:40] <aftreb> sorry, can you ellaborate on that?
[13:40] <k1l> aftreb: talking about ubuntu? or ##linux ?
[13:41] <Zeljko> k1l: i dont know...now i cant run ubuntu... /dev/sda2/ contains file system with errors
[13:41] <net2014> hello
[13:41] <r0x> Why linux consume so much battery?
[13:41] <Zeljko> any BusyBox is running
[13:41] <r0x> Compared to windows it's a shame, gh
[13:41] <net2014> if I suspend my ubuntu, what happens to the virtual machines that run in it?
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> !info laptop-mode-tools | r0x try this
[13:41] <k1l> Zeljko: what?
[13:41] <k1l> Zeljko: what is the issue now and what system is it and what OS are installed?
[13:42] <neil_> aftreb, have a small file somewhere where the count gets decremented every boot, when count gets to zero delete file ... a good place to set this up is in /etc/rc.local
[13:42] <r0x> I'll take a look lotuspsychje, thanks
[13:42] <Zeljko> k1l: BusyBox v1.22.1 and Ubuntu is installed, but i cant open windows on this pc, i think its formatted.
[13:42] <r0x> But in 10 years of linux usage I ever had this problem
[13:42] <net2014> my ubuntu machine is mini pc, seems to have laptop hardware, but does not have battery. instead is connected to a ups
[13:43] <net2014> I am not sure if these laptop mode tools are for me
[13:43] <homa> are there my friends here?
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> r0x: tweak your system to be more power saving..
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> r0x  http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html
[13:44] <net2014> ah, ok info was directed to r0x
[13:44] <net2014> I have another question. Are usb drives meant only for transferring of files, or you can also use them for backups?
[13:45] <Katronix> perhaps its due to not being awake enough but I can't find a package to install to meet "configure: error: "libudfread source tree not found"" can you?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> net2014  i use my external usb disk for backups, with rsync
[13:46] <hrob2> Ok, I think I found the correct way to rephrase my question to be ubuntu specific :D
[13:46] <r0x> lotuspsychje: I got errors while installing the package
[13:46] <neil_> net2014, be careful using usb flash drives, they can fail without warning..
[13:46] <r0x> SETTING OF KERNEL PARAMETER FAILED: echo ondemand \> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[13:46] <r0x> and so on...
[13:46] <Linus_> net2014: USB drives can be used for anything
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> r0x: ubuntu version?
[13:46] <hrob2> Which application does ubuntu use for controlling resouce allocation?   I heard of polkit or consolkit
[13:46] <net2014> Linus_, ok, neil_ says though, that they can fail without warning
[13:47] <r0x> 14.04.3
[13:47] <Zeljko> Do i need to change /dev/sda3/ ntfs to anything other ?
[13:47] <Linus_> net2014: USB-Sticks are cheap & fail. yes
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> r0x: not sure, working like a charm here
[13:47] <flux242> r0x: on 14.04.3 there's pm-utils by default. It should be sufficient
[13:48] <r0x> flux242: it is not
[13:48] <Linus_> net2014: SSD & HDD are more reliable than USB-stick
[13:48] <flux242> yes it is
[13:48] <ioria> Katronix,    check  the     libudf-dev  and    the   libudf0   packages
[13:48] <net2014> is there a port of rsync for windows?
[13:48] <r0x> I had power consumption issues with old laptops and other distribution
[13:48] <Katronix> ioria, thanks
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> net2014  rsync goes over port 22, like ssh
[13:49] <neil_> net2014, usb external drive are OK, I use one here, you can use a laptop SSD in them too.
[13:49] <ioria> Katronix,    np
[13:49] <flux242> r0x: what are the issues?
[13:49] <llutz> MonkeyDust: grep rsync /etc/services   (Port 22 only if you tell rsync to use ssh)
[13:50] <r0x> flux242: I lost more than an hour of battery life when I'm using Linux
[13:50] <ioria> Zeljko, can you paste sudo parted -l ?
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> llutz  tnx, i was wrong
[13:50] <r0x> compared to windows
[13:50] <net2014> is it preferable to allow a service or a port through uwf? when you allow a service, I assume, only that service will be allowed, whereas with a port, any services that go through that port will be allowed?
[13:50] <flux242> r0x: post 'uname -a'
[13:51] <Katronix> ioria, those packages didn't have what I needed :( if you had any other suggestions I'd appreciate
[13:52] <r0x> Linux r0x 3.19.0-47-generic #53~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 18 16:09:14 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:52] <flux242> 3.19 ? You said you are on 14.04
[13:52] <net2014> thank you for the information
[13:52] <ioria> Katronix,    did you install the -dev pkg ?
[13:52] <Katronix> is it possible to get ./configure to tell you everything you need to compile an app instead of just one thing at  a time?
[13:52] <Katronix> ioria, yes
[13:52] <flux242> 3.19 has no ondemand governer any longer. They removed it
[13:53] <hrob2> nevermind, polkitd runs on ubuntu by default
[13:53] <mcphail> Katronix: no, unless the author has set up the configure script to do that
[13:54] <Linus_> Katronix: yes
[13:54] <ioria> Katronix,    what are you compiling ?
[13:54] <r0x> flux242: I'm on 14.04
[13:54] <Katronix> I'm trying to compile libbluray for VLC
[13:55] <Katronix> ioria, trying to compile libbluray for vlc
[13:55] <ioria> Katronix,    where did you take it ?
[13:55] <r0x> btw, I think it's linux itself that is more powerhungry then windows
[13:55] <r0x> *than
[13:56] <ioria> Katronix,    here http://www.videolan.org/developers/libbluray.html ?
[13:56] <Katronix> ioria, git clone http://git.videolan.org/git/libbluray.git
[13:56] <net2014> if you want to upgrade your hdd to say a double capacity, can you clone old hdd to new hdd, so that you ubuntu, it's apps, its servers,  it's configuration etc will remain intact in the new hdd? and you will be able to normally boot your ubuntu?
[13:56] <flux242> r0x: you might install powertop and paly around with it.
[13:56] <ioria> yep
[13:56] <Linus_> Katronix:   sudo apt-get build-dep libbluray
[13:56] <r0x> I've already done it, flux242
[13:57] <r0x> nothing changes
[13:57] <Linus_> Katronix: that auto-finds needed Deps
[13:57] <flux242> you see bad?
[13:57] <ioria> oh, it's big
[13:57] <Katronix> thanks Linus_
[13:57] <flux242> everything should be 'good' when you unplug the power cable
[13:57] <Linus_> Katronix: y not install it from the repos?
[13:57] <r0x> in the past I've tried all sorts of thing to fix the situation but nothing worked
[13:57] <hrob2> r0x: yes, the main linux dev community is not light-weight laptop users --- I also recall a few years ago, anyway, some energy saving protocols were still ill-supported on linux
[13:58] <flux242> r0x: worked for me
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> laptop-mode-tools to the rescue
[13:58] <Katronix> Linus_, is it available from the repos?
[13:58] <Linus_> Katronix: i have libbluray1  version 1:06.2-1  in my repos
[13:58] <ioria> Katronix,    i don't see a configure ...
[13:59] <hrob2> hrob2: r0x:  linux has been more supported high-availability cloud platform providers than laptop manufacturers
[13:59] <Katronix> ioria, you have to bootstrap first
[13:59] <Linus_> Katronix: compiling should only be a last resort, cuz it can mess things up
[14:00] <Katronix> Linus_, okay I have libbluray1 also installed latest version, so I guess I'm missing something else for VLC to play a purchased BluRay
[14:00] <Linus_> Katronix:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libbluray&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[14:01] <flux242> r0x: pm-utils has replaced laptop-mode-tools long ago
[14:02] <r0x> flux242: how it works?
[14:02] <Linus_> flux242: how does that compare to TLP? better?
[14:02] <flux242> and now systemd kind of replaced pm-utils. It can't handle lid close events though
[14:03] <r0x> gh
[14:03] <r0x> but is linux that sucks on laptop, I think
[14:03] <Katronix> If I needed to verify what LD_LIBRARY_PATH was set to, shouldn't set | grep LD_LIBRARY_PATH tell me?
[14:04] <flux242> r0x: if your graphics card supported well then linux is fine on laptops
[14:04] <r0x> I have the integrated one
[14:04] <r0x> but the power consumption compared to windows is huge
[14:05] <wahyu> hi guys
[14:05] <r0x> I think because of better drivers
[14:05] <r0x> or better optimized
[14:06] <flux242> r0x: I have additional hooks for pm-utils to make powertop report good
[14:06] <wahyu> how to hack wifi guys :P
[14:06] <flux242> wahyu: you need wifi hack tool
[14:07] <trixtator> r0x, have you tried powertop --auto-tune ?
[14:07] <ioria> Katronix,   ./ configure --disable-udf
[14:08] <r0x> trixtator: yes
[14:08] <flux242> r0x: now powertop reports 3.5Watt usage and about 10 hours of work
[14:09] <trixtator> flux242, what laptop do you have?
[14:09] <hrob2> ok I got even further.
[14:09] <flux242> r0x: acer c740
[14:09] <r0x> flux242: for me 10Watt usage
[14:09] <r0x> gh
[14:09] <hrob2> I want to add an access policy for a program to access all input devices under /dev/input/event*
[14:10] <flux242> but I'm not on ubuntu!
[14:10] <hrob2> should I simply run a script during my app install adding this policy to /etc/polkit-1/
[14:10] <flux242> I only have ubuntu base system and very light DE
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> flux242  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[14:10] <trixtator> r0x, depending on your model it is not that bad
[14:11] <r0x> trixtator: but it's the same problem that I have in years and years with linux on laptop
[14:12] <flux242> but another laptop I have - thinkpad e300 iirc, only works for 2-3 hours with the same adjustment. So it depends
[14:12] <trixtator> flux242, I am using xubuntu.
[14:12] <flux242> trixtator: with xubuntu I have 1 watt more
[14:13] <brycker> hi!
[14:13] <flux242> trixtator: I mean with xubuntu I have 1 watt more than with my customized DE
[14:13] <haidar> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused
[14:14] <brycker> #asd
[14:14] <haidar> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused
[14:14] <Punkoivan> haidar, you sshd config ok?
[14:15] <Linus_> flux242: what DE you use?
[14:15] <trixtator> flux242, I have a asus n56vz. Low powerconsumption is not one of its favours. ;)
[14:15] <flux242> with acer c720 I could even go below 3 Watt
[14:15] <Linus_> fluxbox? flux242
[14:15] <flux242> no, I'm using i3
[14:17] <haidar> punkoivan I can open the server in  desktop but how can I check the configration
[14:17] <AlexPortable> Why can't I install virtualbox-guest-x11 package? Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: virtualbox-guest-x11: depends xorg-video-abi-15, xserver-xorg-core. E: Unable to corect problems,
[14:17] <AlexPortable> you have held broken packages.
[14:18] <trixtator> flux242, how is the keyboard of your acer?
[14:18] <flux242> trixtator: in which sense?
[14:18] <trixtator> flux242, typing quality
[14:18] <flux242> good
[14:18] <haidar> punkoivan I can open the server in  desktop but how can I check the configration
[14:20] <flux242> it needs to be remapped of course because its chromebook. Apart from that its quite ok
[14:20] <Punkoivan> haidar you can open /etc/ssh/sshd in your editor and check it
[14:21] <trixtator> ok. still looking for a cheap portable, because my laptop is much too heavy for everday travel
[14:21] <trixtator> any problems installing ubuntu?
[14:21] <flux242> I wouldn't recomment acer c740 at the moment
[14:21] <Linus_> Is there a command for "sudo apt-get update"  where you dont need the "sudo" or to enter ur password?
[14:22] <k1l> Linus_: no
[14:22] <flux242> intel graphics drm drivers have serious issues
[14:22] <Katronix> well discovered my issue, the file at http://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/files/KEYDB.cfg is really really old, and doesn't know the proper code to decrypt the video
[14:22] <trixtator> flux242, what would you recommend?
[14:24] <flux242> acer c720 worked very good for me but the hardware is a bit outdated now. I only upgraded to acer c740 because i needed 4gb ram
[14:24] <Mushi_> hi everyone
[14:24] <AlexPortable> anyone?
[14:25] <Mushi_> hi
[14:25] <flux242> trixtator: still acer c720 is a chromebook - not for everbody
[14:25] <haidar> punkoivan the ssh in desktop work but in server don't work
[14:25] <Mushi_> whois mushi
[14:27] <haidar> punkoivan the ssh in desktop work but in server don't work
[14:28] <sruli> hi, i hae a little question about zenity, i have a script which pops up a warning using zenity, however the script wait for the user to hit OK before the script continues, how can I make the script continue regardless if the user hits OK?
[14:29] <flux242> sruli: you should dump zenity. use yad instead, it's almost 1to1 drop in replacement and is supported
[14:30] <luvenfu> hello, i want to install grub in /dev/sda1, how i do that?
[14:30] <sruli> flux242: i dont see yad in synaptic package amnager
[14:30] <cfhowlett> luvenfu, why?  grub usually goes to /dev/sda
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> !find yad
[14:31] <flux242> sruli: http://pastebin.com/nh3d4TSY
[14:31] <luvenfu> cfhowlett: i installed ubuntu recently and it asked me to install grub, i'm using a lenovo ideapad 100, even with grub, it starts on windows 10
[14:32] <flux242> sruli: oh sorry, it was triggered as spam
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !uefi | luvenfu you need to set up your uefi would be my bet
[14:32] <haidar> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"
[14:32] <sruli> flux242: which version of ubuntu?
[14:32] <flux242> sruli: 15.10
[14:33] <sruli> flux242: i checked on 14.04, i see it in 15.10 now
[14:33] <luvenfu> cfhowlett: ok, i will enable my uefi, i disabled this because i needed for install ubuntu throught pendrive and uefi blocks this, thanks
[14:33] <flux242> sruli: if you are on 14.04 then just take a deb from launchpad. It needs no dependecies
[14:33] <haidar> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"??
[14:34] <sruli> flux242: my intention was to use it on 15.10 anyway, where can i find docs for it?
[14:34] <terrasapien> s
[14:34] <flux242> sruli: but i can't tell you if it will solve your particular problem. 'man yad'
[14:35] <flux242> sruli: zenity has 40Megs of dependent packages!
[14:35] <flux242> sruli: yad is only 150k
[14:36] <sruli> flux242: i dont mind going to yad, but i need docs on how to use, man is good to find a option, not to read how it works
[14:37] <haidar> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"??
[14:39] <haidar> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"??
[14:39] <vpassapera> I have two nvidia cards with an SLI Bridge, trying to set it up with 3 monitors. This is my config: https://gist.github.com/vpassapera/aa8f14cef434742f74c9
[14:40] <vpassapera> When I try to turn on xinerama with screen 0 and 1 on, i get a completely black screen. Otherwise, I get 2 monitors and the 3rd one with an x cursor and black
[14:40] <vpassapera> I tried turning SLI on, but that kills the second screen....Not sure how to proceed here as documentation is sparse
[14:40] <vpassapera> any help appreciated
[14:41] <kelvintza> hello here
[14:42] <hai> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"??
[14:44] <hai> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"??
[14:45] <flux242> sruli: you could start yad dialog in a background so that your script works along
[14:46] <hai> I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"??
[14:47] <hai> ssh open in server but cannot open in desktop what should i do????
[14:48] <ortsvorsteher> hai, you have ssh server installed on target system?
[14:48] <homa> and allowed you in target system?
[14:49] <homa> hai : what's your error?
[14:49] <hai> homa I have error unable to connect to libvirt ((cannot recv data ssh connect to host ubuntu port 22 connection refused"??
[14:50] <hai> ortsvorsteher yes
[14:50] <homa> do you have account on target system?
[14:51] <homa> and password
[14:51] <hai> homa yes
[14:53] <hai> thanks the problem solved ssh didn't create on desktop
[14:59] <basnapster> hi does anyone know how to change my ip address?
[15:00] <basnapster> i am on 15.04
[15:02] <mharvey> basnapster: on the bar at the top of the screen you should have a networking indicator
[15:02] <mharvey> basnapster: choose edit connections
[15:04] <love_> I plugged in my Nexus 5, originally it worked fine as a USB mass storage device, now all of a sudden, without having made any relevant changes on either device (to my knowledge), it does not automount
[15:04] <love_> I don't know what to do.
[15:05] <mharvey> basnapster: you pick your adapter and there is ip4 and ip6 tabs. by default its dhcp (dynamic ip assignment from router). you cant change what it issues to you without altering config on router. you can choose static though
[15:05] <xangua> love_: what does appear in your notifications (phone) when you plug it?
[15:07] <love_> If I go to settings, under erase USB storage it says MTP or PTP function active, under the other one it says insert USB to mount, but its grayed out, they both are.
[15:08] <love_> Nothing initially pops up on the phone without my looking for it.
[15:08] <love_> It never did though, when it was working properly
[15:09] <Bleakwise> having a problem
[15:10] <Bleakwise> i need to reinstall udev package, but it fails because initramfs command is not available
[15:10] <Bleakwise> so i try to install initramfs-tools, and it fails because udev is not installed.....
[15:10] <love_> I'm downloading 16.04, this production machine I heavily rely on needs a boost.
[15:10] <love_> In stability
[15:10] <Bleakwise> so i try to install udev, and it fails because initramfs command is not available
[15:11] <cfhowlett> love_, install 16.04 will NOT give you stability.  It's not even in BETA yet!
[15:11] <love_> Lol cfhowlett sorry I had to troll that. I'm a web developer, all my reliability needs are dependent on external storage.
[15:11] <OerHeks> 16.04 alfa2 in a few days
[15:12] <love_> Alpha2, kewl.
[15:12] <Bleakwise> admittingly my bud boniked up his box pretty bad, he tried to install systemd, and when that didn't work, he chrooted back into it and tried to upgrade 14.04 LTS to development 14.10
[15:12] <cfhowlett> love_, you know what they say about a joke you have to explain?  "It wasn't funny."
[15:12] <love_> It's not a joke, it was a troll comment.
[15:12] <cfhowlett> :)
[15:12] <OerHeks> love_, did you unlock the nexus5 before connecting?
[15:13] <love_> Unlock the n5? You mean like from the lock screen? If so yes.
[15:13] <Bleakwise> so we can only get into the box via chroot now, but, any way i can just reinstall the base system? ideally i would just keep all my config files
[15:13] <cfhowlett> love_, no he means ROOT the nexus 5
[15:13] <OerHeks> oke, then i have no clue
[15:13] <love_> Yes did that too, cyanogen.
[15:14] <love_> For some reason it needed google crap from lollipop, so I have 6.x cyanogen and 5.x google crap. But it works fine.
[15:16] <xangua> love_: you mean 5.1 gaps? And you're using cm13? That can't be good
[15:16] <love_> xangua, it's a 12.1 snapshot, and yah that's what I mean. It really does work fine.
[15:17] <LostSoul_> Hello
[15:17] <LostSoul_> I setup ldap(libnss-ldap) + kerbos
[15:17] <LostSoul_> I gave users access to server based on AD
[15:17] <LostSoul_> Now, my samba users can only join if they are accessibly by ssh/ldap - what can I do to give them access based on AD?
[15:19] <xangua> love_: what Ubuntu release is this? Also cm12 is Android 5
[15:24] <sweb> how can accept special port from multiple ip addreses ... 192.168.1.1 10.1.1.1 127.0.0.10 ... not rage ip
[15:24] <sweb> using ufw
[15:35] <Bleakwise> anyone know why i can't install initramfs-tools?
[15:35] <Bleakwise> it wants to intsall 0.103ubuntu4.2 instead
[15:36] <ioria> !info initramfs-tools trusty
[15:38] <Bleakwise> pretty sure the issue is with a failed lts to 14.10 upgrade attempt
[15:38] <ioria> Bleakwise, 14.10 is dead
[15:38] <cfhowlett> Bleakwise, you "upgraded" to a non-supported OS ...
[15:39] <Bleakwise> does LTS upgrade to 15.10 direcly?
[15:39] <cfhowlett> no
[15:39] <ioria> Bleakwise, in theory it should jump it and upgrade to 15.04
[15:39] <k1l> Bleakwise: no
[15:39] <cfhowlett> 14.04 > 14.10 > 15.04 > 15.10
[15:40] <Bleakwise> cfhowlett that was what i thought, the person was using the do-release-upgrade -d method, of changing the config from lts to "normal"
[15:40] <SchrodingersScat> !EOLUpgrade
[15:41] <LostSoul_> LOL, second time no response :)
[15:41] <LostSoul_> Thanks anyway ^^
[15:41] <k1l> Bleakwise: the -d option is just plain stupid, but spread all over the internet because people dont know what it does
[15:41] <Bleakwise> it failed, so i think that probably has something to do with the issue
[15:41] <Bleakwise> oh no doubt the system was abused
[15:42] <cfhowlett> Bleakwise, more like broke and busted.
[15:42] <SchrodingersScat> yeah, no idea why you'd do -d, normally I -m but that may be placebo
[15:42] <k1l> what doesn "lsb_release -d" tell and what target is in sources.list?
[15:42] <k1l> *targetrelease
[15:43] <BluesKaj>  -d is for the next devel release and for LTS some think the upgrade will go to 16.04
[15:43] <Bleakwise> should i try do-release-upgrade after setting it back to LTS? i mean at this point i'm just looking for a quick way to drop anything not from the trusty repo, and replace any packages not from trusty with trusty
[15:44] <k1l> Bleakwise: where does it link now? the sources.list?
[15:44] <Bleakwise> the repos all point to trusty
[15:44] <k1l> Bleakwise: and what packages are installed already? if there are already some 14.04+ packages installed there is no real way back
[15:45] <ioria> Bleakwise, you cannot downgrade
[15:45] <Bleakwise> BluesKayj: is that right? -d goes to 16.04?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Bleakwise, only if you're on 15.10
[15:46] <Bleakwise> i see, okay. any way i can see what repo packages are from? dpkg -l | grep ?
[15:46] <Bleakwise> oh, and i don't have direct access to the system atm either =/
[15:47] <ioria> Bleakwise, cat /etc/issue   , uname -r   and lsb_release -d
[15:47] <SchrodingersScat> how do you know all repos lead to trusty then?
[15:47] <Bleakwise> screenshot of the sources.list file
[15:47] <Bleakwise> over skype
[15:48]  * OerHeks facepalms
[15:48] <cfhowlett> lol
[15:48] <Bleakwise> =/
[15:49] <Bleakwise> tbh probably going to tell the guy to backup his sql databases and whatever else, scrap the system and reimport
[15:50] <Bleakwise> it's a slack server
[15:51] <Bleakwise> hardly used even, the git repos the only really valuable thing, and thankfully that's super easy to solve, we can boot up ssh via a chroot env
[15:51] <Bleakwise> even if not it would just be a matter of copying the directory
[15:52] <BluesKaj> Bleakwise, he can do a clean install to a wnated OS if he has separate / nd /home partitions by installing to / and setting the mountpoint of the /home  in ubiquity manual partitioning
[15:53] <BluesKaj> but most users don't take the trouble to set up separate / and /home partitions
[15:53] <Wulf> Hi
[15:54] <Wulf> What's the proper way to run a script only on the very first boot of a server?
[15:54] <Bleakwise> seperate home partitions and exclusive use of something like cgroups in /home directories would be sweet, any better ideas?
[15:54] <Bleakwise> like, docker
[15:54] <cfhowlett> !server | Wulf
[15:55] <Wulf> cfhowlett: I think the same question would apply to desktop systems too
[15:55] <BluesKaj> personally i woudn't bother with docker
[15:56] <OerHeks> Wulf, here is a script that destroys itself, http://askubuntu.com/questions/161682/how-to-run-a-script-only-a-single-time-ever
[15:57] <OerHeks> instead of removal you can rename it too, to get the idea
[15:57] <ubuntu662> hi
[15:58] <Bleakwise>  okay filnal question
[15:58] <Bleakwise> lets say you did do-release-upgrade and it failed
[15:58] <Bleakwise> say it did update some pacakges etc, have you commited taht system to doing the upgrade?
[15:58] <zaggynl> aaaaaagh pulseaudio
[15:58] <k1l> Bleakwise: depends when it failed
[15:58] <zaggynl> either sc2 crashes or skype crashes
[15:58] <BluesKaj> nothing would be installed
[15:58] <zaggynl> fiddle with variables in pulse.conf, no luck
[15:59] <Bleakwise> k1l: got ya
[15:59] <k1l> Bleakwise: thats why i asked what lsb_release -d and sources.list shows.
[15:59] <Bleakwise> ahh right on
[15:59] <k1l> shows before someone changed it again
[15:59] <ubuntu662> can anybody recommend a good usb stick to run ubuntu off?
[15:59] <Bleakwise> will lsb_release work in a chroot env?
[15:59] <k1l> Bleakwise: yes
[16:00] <ikonia> ubuntu662: anyone will work
[16:00] <BluesKaj> any usb stick that will hold a bootable OS, ubuntu662
[16:00] <k1l> ubuntu662: anyone that is 2gb or lager
[16:00] <k1l> *larger
[16:00] <Bleakwise> lsbrelease reads out Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[16:01] <k1l> Bleakwise: so the upgrade failed/was stoppen before packages were changed? did you change the sources.list file?
[16:01] <ubuntu662> for speed can I run steam of it at decent speeds?
[16:01] <Wulf> ubuntu662: http://static1.bornrichimages.com/cdn2/683/384/91/c/wp-content/uploads/s3/images/2009/02/02/luxury-usb-drives_FMpcm_48.jpg
[16:01] <k1l> ubuntu662: no
[16:01] <cfhowlett> ubuntu662, no
[16:01] <BluesKaj> Bleakwise, that's agood OS , still stable, mature and well supported
[16:01] <ikonia> ubuntu662: no
[16:01] <k1l> ubuntu662: you want a nativ install if you want speed
[16:01] <ubuntu662> :(
[16:01] <ikonia> you'll struggle to run most steam games from a full hard disk install, adding an "in ram" os will just not fly
[16:01] <Bleakwise> sources.list was left with 14.04, so, there was another issue
[16:01] <cfhowlett> ubuntu662, steam in ram hungry as is ubuntu.  *ALWAYS* runs slower on a USB.  learn to dual boot
[16:02] <Bleakwise> the system was "updated" to use systemd
[16:02] <Bleakwise> of course 14.04 uses upstart
[16:02] <k1l> Bleakwise: ok, so its a messed up system and not caused by an release upgrade
[16:02] <ubuntu662> ok thank for the help bye
[16:02] <Bleakwise> correct: i suspect that could have done something to udev and upstart, or the kernel
[16:03] <AlexPortable> Why can't I install virtualbox-guest-x11 package? Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: virtualbox-guest-x11: depends xorg-video-abi-15, xserver-xorg-core. E: Unable to corect problems,
[16:03] <AlexPortable> you have held broken packages.
[16:03] <homa> hi every body
[16:03] <Bleakwise> lets make it simple, how can i get back to the default kernel?
[16:03] <Bleakwise> va apt-get
[16:03] <ikonia> just select the kernel from grub
[16:03] <ikonia> you don't need to touch apt-get or anything like that
[16:04] <ioria> Bleakwise, which kernel are you using ?   uname -r
[16:11] <Bleakwise> think i found the problem
[16:12] <Bleakwise> a systemd ppa installed in sources.list.d
[16:12] <Bleakwise> A problem at least
[16:12] <Bleakwise> going to remove that and apt-get upgrade and apt-get update
[16:12] <geirha> only if its filename ends with .list
[16:12] <Bleakwise> and purge that ppa, and it does
[16:12] <HamRadio> How safe is it to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04?
[16:13] <Wulf> HamRadio: 93.85%
[16:13] <ikonia> Bleakwise: seems like a bad idea
[16:13] <cfhowlett> HamRadio, upgrade from a supported OS to Alpha release?  no problem!
[16:13] <k1l> HamRadio: when you need to ask dont use alphas
[16:13] <ikonia> as removing systemd won't "fix" a missing init
[16:13] <llldino> Anyone else get a massive update from apt today?
[16:13] <Bleakwise> actually no, going to copy those files back,a nd run ppapurge
[16:13] <ikonia> llldino: what does it matter what others get
[16:13] <HamRadio> Well, I meant once 16.04 becomes stable
[16:14] <ikonia> llldino: others will have different systems from you
[16:14] <k1l> !ppapurge | Bleakwise
[16:14] <cfhowlett> HamRadio, it's stable when it's released in April.  Otherwise, consider your system a testing bed
[16:14] <llldino> ikonia, Soem coreutils stuff in there, I was just curious
[16:14] <k1l> HamRadio: when 16.04 is released its fine to upgrade. upgrades are automated tested
[16:14] <ikonia> llldino: it can be triggered by other things, though, other peoples systems don't really have any mirror impact to yours
[16:15] <HamRadio> Cool, thanks!
[16:16] <llldino> ikonia, It does when it involves apt, systemd, passwd, perl amongst others
[16:17] <ikonia> llldino: no it doesn't
[16:17] <llldino> Just wondering if there was another bug like they found thursday
[16:17] <ikonia> as other people may have different packages involved which will offer more/less than you're seeing
[16:17] <ikonia> llldino: you could either state "your" problem/question, or read the changes logs to see what's changed on your system
[16:22] <Bleakwise> that ppa explains the depenedency hell / conflicts, i have my work cleaned out for me cleaning any crap from that ppa out and resolving deps after doing so, thanks for the help
[16:25] <AlexPortable> How can I get a higher resolution than 640x480 in ubuntu in virtualbox?
[16:25] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, install guest additions
[16:25] <AlexPortable> I did
[16:25] <AlexPortable> I can't install virtualbox-guest-x11, so I did via the virtualbox menu
[16:25] <AlexPortable> but to no avail
[16:26] <k1l> install the guest additions. than it will work
[16:26] <AlexPortable> I have them installed
[16:26] <k1l> and rebooted?
[16:26] <AlexPortable> yes
[16:26] <AlexPortable>  i'm installing it again now
[16:27] <k1l> which vbox version (ubuntu repo or website)? which guest additions (vbox included iso or ubuntu guest repo)?
[16:27] <AlexPortable> 14.04
[16:27] <AlexPortable> 4.2 website
[16:27] <k1l> so use the vbox included guest additions from that vbox
[16:27] <AlexPortable> I did
[16:27] <AlexPortable> installed, rebooted, same issue
[16:28] <k1l> no
[16:28] <AlexPortable> no?
[16:28] <k1l> was there an issue?
[16:28] <AlexPortable> nope
[16:28] <AlexPortable> it said press enter to close this window
[16:28] <AlexPortable> any commands to verify it's installed?
[16:28] <k1l> what does dmesg tell?
[16:29] <AlexPortable> virtualbox bios, virtualbox usb tablet
[16:29] <cfhowlett> tablet?
[16:29] <AlexPortable> yes input device tablet
[16:29] <AlexPortable> at least that's what virtualbox is set to by default
[16:35] <EliKLAAS> hey hey
[16:35] <EliKLAAS> i have a question
[16:36] <k1l> EliKLAAS: you know the deal: just ask
[16:36] <EliKLAAS> how can i update "everything" like in arch but on ubuntu
[16:36] <AlexPortable> nvm got it working now thanks k1l
[16:36] <k1l> EliKLAAS: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:36] <EliKLAAS> ah
[16:36] <EliKLAAS> okay thanks!
[16:39] <artois> EliKLAAS: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta
[16:40] <ikonia> he's not using pacman
[16:40] <ikonia> he's using ubuntu
[16:40] <mharvey> kll: doesn't full-upgrade just give you the next official release. Isnt arch a "bleeding edge" rolling distro?
[16:40] <tuxedo> Hello
[16:40] <ikonia> they are not the same commands even in that list
[16:40] <ikonia> apt-get distrupgrade will bring everything up to current
[16:40] <tuxedo> I'd like to know how to clean some errors on the update option
[16:41] <ikonia> the update option ?
[16:41] <tuxedo> yes
[16:41] <tuxedo> it give this
[16:41] <tuxedo> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/qtcam/precise/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[16:41] <tuxedo> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/qtcam/precise/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[16:41] <tuxedo> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[16:41] <tuxedo> tuxedo@tu
[16:41] <ikonia> remove that PPA
[16:41] <EliKLAAS> artois: he is right i am now using ubuntu
[16:41] <k1l> mharvey: no, it doesnt bring you to the next ubuntu release. and for what archlinux is better ask the arch guys or ##linux
[16:42] <EliKLAAS> xD
[16:42] <artois> EliKLAAS: it's immaterial; it answers your question and any future questions about how to do something on Ubuntu that you already know how to do on Arch
[16:42] <k1l> tuxedo: use ppa-purge to remove that ppa.
[16:43] <EliKLAAS> hahaha okay
[16:43] <EliKLAAS> :P
[16:44] <tuxedo> tell me the line command
[16:46] <asus_ux501> Hi all, for those of you who remember my challenge in installing ubuntu on ASUS ux501vw, I was finally able to install it on it, the details could be read at https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/254192/asus-zenbook-linux-install-fails
[16:47] <zeysmo> hello there. for some reason i can'
[16:47] <zeysmo> t
[16:47] <zeysmo> write to usb sticks anymore
[16:47] <ikonia> probably the usb stick has worn out / faulty
[16:48] <ikonia> if you've done the basic checks
[16:48] <zeysmo> fsck says the dirty bit is set, then i run fsck -a /dev/xyz and it says the dirty bit has been removed
[16:48] <zeysmo> and running fsck again tells me the dirty bit is NOT set anymore
[16:49] <zeysmo> then i safely remove the stick via nautilus and remove it, then put it back in and the dirty bit is set again O_O
[16:49] <ikonia> when it's clean and you write to it
[16:49] <brahim> hi
[16:50] <zeysmo> ikonia: i've tried three different sticks now. also they work on an other laptop running ubuntu aswell.
[16:50] <ikonia> that wasn't what I asked
[16:50] <tuxedo> man purge
[16:51] <ikonia> I asked if the stick you're having a problem can be written to after it's cleaned
[16:51] <SchrodingersScat> !ppapurge | tuxedo
[16:51] <zeysmo> ah, no
[16:51] <zeysmo> trying to write directly after fsck -a. didn't work
[16:51] <zeysmo> with any stick
[16:53] <Trickyj> hi
[16:54] <zeysmo> ikonia: do you have any ideas of what i could try :/?
[16:57] <ioria> zeysmo, what filesystem ? vfat ?   anyway https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[16:59] <AlexPortable> if i make changes to my system with dconf-editor which file are they being changed>?
[16:59] <AlexPortable> I want to change something fro mthe commandline
[16:59] <zeysmo> ioria: fat32
[17:00] <zeysmo> but ioria: it's not the stick. it happens with all sticks and only on my machine. the same sticks work on an other ubuntu machine
[17:01] <ioria> zeysmo, i think because it's now in the kernel ...
[17:01] <Bleakwise> a bit off topic, what would have the higher write endurance? A 500gb 850 Pro or a 1tb 850 Evo?
[17:02] <zeysmo> ioria: what's in the kernel?
[17:02] <Bleakwise> i mean, supposing i didn't abuse thne drive and was mindful of write amplification
[17:02] <ioria> zeysmo, the dirty bit
[17:03] <ChibaPet> Is there a way to enumerate service order so I can properly re-order something? I'm an Upstart noob.
[17:03] <ioria> zeysmo, take a look maybe http://serverfault.com/questions/571458/unable-to-resolve-data-corruption-warning-with-fcsk
[17:03] <zeysmo> ioria: oh, i thought the dirty bit was written on the stick...
[17:03] <ioria> zeysmo, no
[17:03] <citrix> Hi  all
[17:04] <citrix> How to add path in cmake file?
[17:04] <zbyti> hi :)\
[17:04] <zbyti> hi :)
[17:04] <citrix> Hello :)
[17:04] <ioria> zeysmo, " The dirty bit is set and cleared in the kernel, when mounting and unmounting a device "
[17:05] <citrix> I have downloaded a library i want it to compile with Opencv library path
[17:05] <zeysmo> so it should work if i just fsck -a it? but it doesn't O_O
[17:05] <zeysmo> hm
[17:05] <zeysmo> thanks for the help ioria! that's useful info :)
[17:05] <ioria> zeysmo,  the guy  did a fsck.vfat -v -a -w /dev/sdaX  after   (w --write)
[17:06] <citrix> https://github.com/OpenKinect/libfreenect2  this i downloaded but i had changed an example which use opencv lilbrary and api's how to instruct this library to compile with opencv
[17:09] <ChibaPet> So, let's say I have a service that is 'start on starting mountall'. What would the syntax be if I want to have it start *after* cryptdisks (not cryptdisks-udev, as I need the second pass to have completed.)
[17:11] <claim> Hello everyone. I am having issues with the nouveau display driver on my IdeaPad laptop. It has this NVIDIA Optmus nonsense. I can't seem to get the "nouveau" kernel module loaded at boot. So sddm fails to show. If I "modprobe nouveau" on a shell and restart sddm, everything is fine. I have put nouveau in /etc/modules.
[17:11] <ChibaPet> claim: Nouveau is buggy and probably not what you want to Optimus.
[17:11] <zeysmo> ioria: -______- is it possible that nautilus caches the dirtybit?
[17:12] <zeysmo> or the write protection
[17:12] <ioria> zeysmo,  sorry, idk
[17:12] <ChibaPet> claim: There are packages for you. bumblebee is probably what you want.
[17:12] <zeysmo> i killed nautilus now it works
[17:12] <zeysmo> GRML
[17:12] <ChibaPet> or bumblebee-nvidia
[17:12] <zeysmo> :) thanks
[17:12] <claim> ChibaPet, I have ended up with using nouveau because I can't get the nvidia binary driver to work properly.
[17:13] <ChibaPet> claim: Did you try the straight driver or the Optimus-specific stuff? Caveat: I don't have Optimus, so I've only watched people struggling with it from afar.
[17:13] <ioria> zeysmo,  happy to hear that
[17:13] <ChibaPet> Ooh, and as for my answer, I see there's a "start on started" syntax which looks right.
[17:14] <claim> ChibaPet, OK, I'll try bumblebee
[17:14] <dekr4ken> hi guys. wanted to know if any of you have any experience is mpg123 / want to stream radio to my terminal, got the program but don't seem to get the syntax right to get it going
[17:15] <ChibaPet> claim: I think there are some docs online. Half a sec and I'll look.
[17:15] <ChibaPet> claim: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[17:16] <ChibaPet> claim: Note that they mention a #bumblebee channel, although there's never any way to predict how alive these things are.
[17:16] <Helvekta> Heya, has anybody ever encountered "Kernel Panic - Not syncing: Attempted to kill the idle task"?
[17:16] <ChibaPet> bbiab, trying my new boot muckery
[17:17] <OerHeks> that bumblebee factoid is old, current is nvidia-prime
[17:17] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[17:18] <net2014> hello
[17:19] <net2014> does reboot gracefully shutdown applications?
[17:19] <net2014> and pkill appname is equal to kill -s 15 pid? I mean, pkill appname gracefully kills the app?
[17:20] <OerHeks> reboot shutdown apps, but does not save your work, and pkill is equal to kill <pid>
[17:22] <net2014> OerHeks, well, it does not save work, but does it allow the apps to close gracefully, without corrupting the internal data they use?
[17:22] <net2014> the data for their own use?
[17:22] <net2014> and pkill is like kill -s 9 or 15?
[17:23] <ioria> 15 is sigterm
[17:23] <OerHeks> well, try it yourself, if you don't believe my answer.
[17:23] <ioria> 9 is sigkill
[17:24] <net2014> OerHeks, I am trying to understand better, it's not that I don't believe you. What I am trying to figure out, does reboot allow apps to close gracefully, even though they won't save my data?
[17:25] <ChibaPet> OerHeks: Ah, thanks for the correction. claim: didn't see you pipe up, so I'm highlighting you in case you didn't see it.
[17:25] <claim> ChibaPet, OerHeks thanks guys. Still working on it. Trying nvidia-prime now.
[17:25] <claim> What's the best way to set up /etc/X11/xorg.conf with this setup? nvidia-settings?
[17:26] <grey16> hello
[17:26] <ChibaPet> claim: nvidia-xconfig perhaps?
[17:26] <ChibaPet> I'm not sure how prime/bumblebee-aware it is.
[17:28] <net2014> thanks
[17:31] <transhuman_> I was told iptables-peristent is in the default ubuntu repository its not there where is it or has it been renamed?
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> !iptables | transhuman_ start here
[17:32] <derpititusus> Hi! I have made a folder in Home. How do i add it in the left pane under Places ?
[17:32] <SchrodingersScat> !info iptables-persistent | transhuman_
[17:33] <transhuman_> oh its been moved to universe I see
[17:33] <transhuman_> ok thanks
[17:33] <SchrodingersScat> transhuman_: maybe adding the s in persistent helps?
[17:33] <transhuman_> good point SchrodingersScat
[17:34] <SchrodingersScat> derpititusus: you can't just drag the directory there?
[17:34] <derpititusus> SchrodingersScat: it didn't work no
[17:35] <Zeljko> Anyone know what can be a problem with installing STEAM from developer center ???
[17:36] <OerHeks> Zeljko, the developmentcrew can tell, sounds like a not-stable version
[17:36] <Zeljko> OerHeks what version you mean ?
[17:36] <Zeljko> ubuntu ?
[17:37] <OerHeks> i don't know where you get that dev version, we support stable versions only.
[17:37] <Zeljko> OerHeks : from ubuntu.com
[17:37] <Zeljko> 15.04
[17:37] <Zeljko> and steam from developer center
[17:37] <tgm4883> How can I permanently set my right screen to be my primary monitor. Every so often it seems to reset and make my left monitor the primary (meaning when I start full screen games in steam it pops up on my left monitor)
[17:38] <derpititusus> Hi! I have made a folder in Home. How do i add it in the left pane under Places ? Drag and drop doesn't work
[17:39] <tgm4883> derpititusus: does it need to be under places? You should be able to drag it under bookmarks
[17:39] <OerHeks> Zeljko, so from the steam site, you better ask in #steam-devel, #streamlug or #ubuntu-steam
[17:40] <derpititusus> I don't have bookmarks listed
[17:40] <tgm4883> derpititusus: hmm, not even in the menu bar?
[17:40] <derpititusus> I only have Places, Devices, Network
[17:41] <OerHeks> derpititusus, ctrl + D, if you are in that folder
[17:41] <tgm4883> OerHeks: ah, nice
[17:42] <derpititusus> OerHeks: nope
[17:42] <OerHeks> i would expect dragging would work too, but that is not available (anymore)
[17:42] <tgm4883> derpititusus: what version of ubuntu?
[17:43] <OerHeks> derpititusus, it works here, *only* if you brows into that new folder
[17:44] <derpititusus> tgm4883:  latest avail on site
[17:44] <derpititusus> 64 bit
[17:51] <dantevergil> Hello, Is there a version of emacs with integrated plugins?
[17:56] <Zamriel> sss
[17:57] <Zamriel> Hello can anyone see my messages?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> Zamriel  no, you're invisible
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> Zamriel  it works, we see you
[17:58] <Zamriel> Okay because I am trying to type on another channel but it tells me that it cannot send my messages.
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> maybe you need to !register
[17:58] <Zamriel> Oh let me try that, first time using xChat
[17:58] <kindjes> foo
[17:59] <Zamriel> Still can't type lol
[17:59] <Zamriel> But thanks anyways MonkeyDust.
[18:01] <Canon> hello.... I have a Ubuntu server that is 14.04-3 and when i run apt-get update it cant find the update source... is there different sorce server i need to use..
[18:02] <EriC^^> Canon: can you ping google.com ? 8.8.8.8 ?
[18:03] <Canon> yes I can
[18:04] <EriC^^> Canon: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:04] <EriC^^> and any errors you get when you run apt-get update
[18:05] <Canon> when i ping google i get a unknown host
[18:06] <hook> evening chaps and lasses
[18:06] <hook> usb mic in my webcam, 12.04 - couldn't for the life of me get alsamixer to pick it up
[18:07] <hook> I can see the meter picking it up in the settings panel - just that I can't pipe it out of my speakers
[18:08] <mharvey> Canon: your nameserver ips are not setup /etc/resolv.conf. manually edit your network config in settings to add a dns server
[18:08] <hook> I'm wearing headphones and this is so I can record screencasting for youtube, so I needed the feedback
[18:09] <Bashing-om> Canon: A DNS issue ? What is set for namesever ' cat /etc/resolv.conf ' ?
[18:11] <Canon> ther is nothing stated
[18:12] <Bashing-om> Canon: How familiar are you with your system ? Is your router set to hand out IPs ?
[18:13] <Canon> I have my cisco switch hanfle out ips in a dhcp pool I have the name servers going to 8.8.8.8
[18:15] <Bashing-om> Canon: ' service resolvconf status ' ; is the service running ?
[18:16] <Canon> start/running
[18:17] <fuze>  I am trying to upgrade Kubuntu, how can I fix this? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/fb35y2MD/upgrade.png Terminal: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/H2bhniQr/
[18:19] <Bashing-om> Canon: Pending reconfiguring the resolvconf package . show us ' pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces ' .
[18:19] <__raven> hi
[18:19] <Remind> Hey everyone! Just a quick question if you don't mind, have a small issue. Whenever my computer sleeps, or I close the lid, I get frozen at the login screen. I can't move the mouse, press keys, or anything - it's unresponsive. Any fixes? I'm using Ubuntu 14.04
[18:19] <fuze> __raven:  I am trying to upgrade Kubuntu, how can I fix this? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/fb35y2MD/upgrade.png Terminal: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/H2bhniQr/
[18:20] <Wulf> Remind: upgrade
[18:20] <Remind> Wulf: Isn't this the latest one?  I just downloaded it from the website
[18:20] <Wulf> Remind: no, 15.10 is the current one
[18:21] <Wulf> Remind: how old is your laptop?
[18:21] <Remind> Ah, okay great, that leads me to another question, haha. Is it possible to upgrade without having to completely restart?
[18:21] <Remind> It's 2015
[18:21] <Remind> I'm a new Ubuntu user, so this is all new to me
[18:21] <Wulf> Remind: you'll need to reboot, but your files won't get deleted. Most configuration should still work afterwards
[18:21] <xwrt> pit!stop :)
[18:23] <homa> see you latter my friends
[18:25] <Remind> Installing it now, hopefully this fixes it! Thanks wulf!
[18:25] <Bashing-om> fuze: " This can be caused by: >> This can be caused by: " Try and disable all the PPAs and see if the release upgrade now completes .
[18:26]  * wyrm_77 is a newcommer to xchat and I seem to have no way to talk if this does not w
[18:26] <showaz> 16.04 ready desktop ?
[18:26] <fuze> wyrm_77: try irccloud
[18:26] <showaz> 15.10 last update broken, black frame around windows
[18:27] <Bashing-om> fuze: Bad paste ^ " >> * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu " .
[18:27] <Remind> Guess I
[18:27] <Remind> Guess I'm not upgrading, "It was not possible to authenticate some packages. This may be a transient network problem. You may want to try again later. See below for a list of unauthenticated packages."
[18:27] <Remind> gettext
[18:27] <Remind> lib32atomic1
[18:27] <Remind> lib32gomp1
[18:27] <Remind> lib32itm1
[18:27] <Remind> lib32quadmath0
[18:28] <wyrm_77> irccloud
[18:28] <showaz> 15.10 http://i.imgur.com/bq1jnJH.png
[18:32] <wyrm_77> is irccloud a program or a command?
[18:33] <bekks> Neither nor. Irccloud is a hosting company.
[18:35] <hook> anyone got their usb mic feeding back through the speakers on 12.04? I googled the shizz out of this and came up empty
[18:37] <Pinkamena_D> has anyone successfully set up a system with bcache/enhanceio or anything like that?
[18:38] <Pinkamena_D> Some method to cache a hdd with a small ssd
[18:39] <charliet> Good morning everyone. I have looked online as to how to use my usb cabel to connect my android phobe to the internet my computer is hard wired to
[18:39] <charliet> I have one of those crappy obama phones, and the insturctions aren't straight forward. After you switch the device to install driver what do you do?
[18:41] <LonelyDanbo> is it possible that Ubuntu is updating software without my permission, or is it swapping memory to disk because I'm tabbing between a game and a web browser?
[18:41] <LonelyDanbo> I can't tell if it changes, but on the main menu of the game the system monitor reports 86% memory usage.
[18:42] <LonelyDanbo> It's bad because my HD light goes on solid for like 3+ minutes and my game freezes along with everything else.
[18:43] <bekks> Just investigate the reason, looking at top, free -m, and iotop.
[18:43] <OerHeks> LonelyDanbo, depends, how you configure updates, pre-downloading, or just give notice..
[18:43] <LonelyDanbo> where's that setting again?
[18:43] <bekks> Which setting?
[18:44] <LonelyDanbo> I'm in Xubuntu. settings for updates.
[18:44] <LonelyDanbo> ah. software & updates, I think.
[18:45] <SharkMa-san> is there any progress on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1488719 ?
[18:45] <charliet> ugh the threes
[18:45] <charliet> and the flashing
[18:45] <charliet> and the butterflies
[18:45] <LonelyDanbo> hm.... I don't see an option for it to prompt me to update... just automatic or never.
[18:45] <charliet> and the chicken soup
[18:45] <charliet> and the craptastic functions of crap
[18:45] <charliet> UGH
[18:45] <OerHeks> SharkMa-san, i thought that intel nuc needs 15.10
[18:46] <SharkMa-san> OerHeks: I am running 15.10 kernel and I can confirm it is not fixed
[18:46] <LonelyDanbo> where do I update using the GUI after I turn off automatic updates?
[18:47] <LonelyDanbo> oh. right beside it? "Software Updater"?
[18:47] <OerHeks> SharkMa-san, then no use of asking about a bug in 15.04..
[18:47] <OerHeks> you might want to confirm that bugreport that it is still present in 15.10
[18:48] <SharkMa-san> people have confirmed it is still present in 4.4 kernel (15.10 using 4.2)
[18:48] <SharkMa-san> apparently there is a fix from intel, but it seems no one has tested it yet
[18:49] <LonelyDanbo> really strange. It's supposedly been updating daily automatically and yet I did a manual update and there's 300MB to download.
[18:49] <claim> OerHeks, Now I have nvidia-prime and nvidia_352 installed, ran nvidia-xconfig. If I boot via grub into "upstart" mode, I can launch sddm manually and log in. However, my resolution is only at 640x480.
[18:50] <vigneshwar> hello
[18:51] <vigneshwar> avvavvddddcdcAfeedfeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[18:52] <vigneshwar> what are we discussing about
[18:53] <TJ-> SharkMa-san: the fix will be in v4.5
[18:54] <e-vent> Any able to lend me a hand with ZFS in 15.10?
[18:55] <SharkMa-san> TJ-: that's good news
[18:55] <e-vent> Do zpool and zfs need root to function?
[18:55] <TJ-> SharkMa-san: The Intel dev still doesn't understand it, but has reverted a revert of a revert :)
[18:55] <SharkMa-san> :D
[18:56] <ynix> What do you do when your computer won't respond at all, and Alt-Ctrl-F* doesn't work? Are you basically screwed and have to cut the power?
[18:56] <TJ-> SharkMa-san: once v4.5 is released Ubuntu kernel devs can cherry-pick that commit (ccda3a7) into the v4.2/v4.4 kernels
[18:56] <danes> hello, how do I install a font from a software channel? I downloaded a font with extension .deb I got a message saying that a similar font was available from a software channel
[18:56] <ChameleonSix4> hello
[18:56] <ChameleonSix4> I need help
[18:56] <ioria> ynix, usually , i wait :þ
[18:56] <e-vent> ynix, have you tried CTRL ALT F2?
[18:56] <e-vent> or the other terminals?
[18:56] <e-vent> F3 F4 etc...
[18:57] <ioria> ynix,  but depends on the issue
[18:57] <ChameleonSix4> any linux pro here
[18:57] <ynix> Yes, those don't work. And I've waited a long time.
[18:57] <e-vent> ynix, in that case it has probably crashed completely
[18:57] <TJ-> !ask | ChameleonSix4
[18:58] <ynix> That's unfortunate.
[18:58] <ioria> ynix,  what have you done before get stuck ?
[18:58] <ChameleonSix4> how do i connect to wifi in ubuntu
[18:58] <fuze> Bashing-om: I deleted everthing in /etc/apt/sources.list.d and it still doesnt work
[18:58] <ynix> ioria, Nothing out of the ordinary. The catalyst seems to have been launching Chromium.
[18:58] <mcphail> ynix: in a crisis, you can hold down Alt+SysRq then press "REISUB" to try to reboot the computer safely
[18:58] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: Using the network connection manager applet, if using a desktop install
[18:58] <e-vent> ChameleonSix4, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[18:58] <ChameleonSix4> the problem is
[18:58] <ChameleonSix4> i installed the terminal version only
[18:58] <mcphail> ynix: but best to try to find out what went wrong, by SSH'ing into the machine or similar
[18:58] <ChameleonSix4> lol
[18:59] <ChameleonSix4> iwlist config
[18:59] <ChameleonSix4> ifk how to enable it
[18:59] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: you can still use Network Manager ( which is a background service) and its CLI front-end, nmcli
[18:59] <e-vent> mcphail, he said he couldnt get it to an alt terminal with Ctrl Alt F2 etc
[18:59] <SharkMa-san> TJ-: I'm not having huge problems because of it (more like some inconvenience), but it's good to hear it's going forwards
[18:59] <e-vent> so I doubt SSH in will be functioning
[18:59] <ynix> mcphail, Yeah, I could try that next time.
[18:59] <mcphail> e-vent: no matter
[18:59] <ChameleonSix4> hmm
[18:59] <ChameleonSix4> but i got no gui
[18:59] <ChameleonSix4> lol
[18:59] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: otherwise, you'll need to manually configure wpa_supplicant via ifupdown's /etc/network/interfaces
[19:00] <ChameleonSix4> i can use network manager via terminal only
[19:00] <ChameleonSix4> what do  i type in
[19:00] <ChameleonSix4> ?
[19:00] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic
[19:00] <OerHeks> good manual
[19:00] <ChameleonSix4> how do i enable the interface it is disabled
[19:00] <cluelessperson> question, what's that recorder that linux mint uses?
[19:00] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: you don't need a GUI for accessing the command-line; "nmcli" is the CLI control interface, just like nm-applet is the (Gnome) GUI interface.
[19:00] <cluelessperson> I'd like to have it on ubuntu
[19:00] <ChameleonSix4> ah ok
[19:00] <ChameleonSix4> sec
[19:00] <Bashing-om> fuze: K; show again ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' Let's insure the package manager is in a consistent state .
[19:01] <TJ-> !wifi | ChameleonSix4
[19:01] <ChameleonSix4> network manager not installed
[19:01] <OerHeks> cluelessperson, how do we know? ask the mint channel, and if you have it, you could tell us
[19:01] <ChameleonSix4> lol
[19:01] <chimy> 15
[19:01] <ChameleonSix4> this will be hard
[19:01] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: right; so you'll either need to install it, or manually configure wpa_supplicant, according to the guides
[19:01] <hook> anyone got a usb mic working from a webcam?
[19:01] <cluelessperson> OerHeks, They're not answering, and the point is that I'd like to get it in ubuntu.  It's VERY  useful to have screenshots built in, and screen recording with FFMPEG to WEBM with a keyboard shortcut
[19:01] <hook> I just want to pipe the sound out, but it's silent
[19:02] <ChameleonSix4> how can i install it without net
[19:02] <ChameleonSix4> ?
[19:02] <e-vent> ChameleonSix4, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1403717
[19:02] <ynix> I'm excited for Unity 8. The interface looks super polished and slick. Reminds me a lot of Numix.
[19:02] <OerHeks> cluelessperson, then be patient
[19:02] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: can the PC be connected via a temporary Ethernet wired connection?
[19:02] <cluelessperson> OerHeks, I have been, those fuckers don't answer.
[19:02] <ChameleonSix4> it is a laptop
[19:03] <ChameleonSix4> but the interface of ethernet is disabled also
[19:03] <ChameleonSix4> anyway
[19:03] <e-vent> ifconfig INTERFACE up
[19:03] <ChameleonSix4> how do i check battery status
[19:03] <e-vent> dhclient INTERFACE
[19:03]  * OerHeks thinks another reason not to use mint
[19:03] <SharkMa-san> TJ-: and thank you
[19:03] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: so? most laptops have an Ethernet port. "sudo ip link XXXXX up && sudo dhclient XXXX &"
[19:04] <ChameleonSix4> hmm ok
[19:04] <ChameleonSix4> what about battery
[19:04] <ChameleonSix4> ?
[19:04] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: where XXXX is the interface name
[19:04] <ioria> ynix,  on xenial it'll be always 7
[19:04] <ynix> ioria, Is Xenial 16.04?
[19:04] <cluelessperson> OerHeks, agreed.  Honestly, mint is beautiful, built in screen recording, very clean, but some things are off.   If I can get the best of mint back into ubuntu with me, I'm happy.
[19:04] <cluelessperson> Maybe Ubuntu Mate.
[19:04] <ioria> ynix,  yep
[19:04] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: actually, its "sudo ip link set XXXX up" ...
[19:05] <ChameleonSix4> i enabled wireless
[19:05] <ChameleonSix4> what now
[19:05] <TJ-> ChameleonSix4: read those guides
[19:05] <ChameleonSix4> the adapter is enabled
[19:06] <cluelessperson> hm, time to reinstall my laptop
[19:06] <ynix> ioria, But it can just be installed as a package easily.
[19:06] <ioria> ynix,   i head it... but not tried
[19:06] <ioria> *heard
[19:08] <fuze> Bashing-om: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/aFeV5JrH/
[19:08] <Bashing-om> fuze: Look'n .
[19:11] <ynix77> Is there a way to get the global menu up top to stay visible (instead of disappear when the mouse isn't over it)? I'm looking in settings and unity tweak tool and I can't find an option anywhere.
[19:11] <Bashing-om> fuze: What returns ' grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ?
[19:12] <fuze> Bashing-om: Prompt=normal
[19:12] <hook> more googling - how do I find out if I have the right soundcard drivers?
[19:12] <sturgbot> Probably a dumb question, but how can I tell exactly which graphics driver is loaded?
[19:13] <hook> looks like my question :)
[19:13] <sturgbot> hook: Yeah, I noticed right after I hit enter ;-) No sound?
[19:14] <Bashing-om> fuze: Strange indeed, That was my last thought on why release-upgrade is balking .
[19:14] <krabbe> I hate to ask this… but what does this one-liner do? “echo "resolvconf resolvconf/linkify-resolvconf boolean false" | debconf-set-selections”
[19:14] <hook> my mic shows it's picking up something, I just can't pipe it to the sound
[19:14] <hook> alsamixer and gnome-alsamixer didn't help much
[19:14] <sturgbot> what'd it show in alsamixer?
[19:15] <TJ-> krabbe: that's a debian package configuration option for the 'resolvconf' package
[19:15] <hook> I selected the soundcard, f6
[19:15] <hook> chose usb webcam 2.0
[19:16] <hook> "this sound device does not have any playback controls"
[19:16] <TJ-> hook: Are you able to record it? "piping" is usually called "loopback" and requires some custom configuration to do it
[19:16] <TJ-> hook: if a program like 'audacious' can record the input correctly then the microphone is working fine.
[19:16] <OerHeks> ynix77, install dconf-editor >  Dconf-Editor (com > canonical > unity > always-show-menus)  http://www.webupd8.org/2014/12/unity-to-probably-get-option-to-always.html
[19:16] <hook> I'm a bit new to ubuntu so I don't know the official terminology, but I can see my mic level rising in the standard volume controls
[19:16] <hook> I just can't hear it - and probably for good reason to, to avoid feedback
[19:17] <OerHeks> ynix77, this tip does not work btw http://askubuntu.com/questions/541449/how-do-i-always-show-menu-items-in-unity
[19:17] <hook> unsure if it records - is there a command to do a quick recording?
[19:17] <ynix77> OerHeks, Cool, thanks!
[19:17] <hook> I'll google
[19:17] <sturgbot> hook: google arecord
[19:18] <hook> apt-get'd :)
[19:18] <sturgbot> hook: Oh.. try:    arecord test.wav
[19:18] <hook> oh, already had it
[19:18] <krabbe> TJ-: thanks. Those were some pointers.
[19:19] <sturgbot> hook: I think it's part of alsa-utils. I feel like I've seen it in a tutorial somewhere
[19:20] <TJ-> hook: I helped another user setup loopback+monitor (for Skype) recently. We worked from the answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/257992/how-can-i-use-pulseaudio-virtual-audio-streams-to-play-music-over-skype#258369
[19:21] <sturgbot> With 16.04, does anything get *weird* with X? Say I wanted to use the mini.iso and install a command-line system. Could I still get a minimal X environment (and say, openbox) the same way?
[19:21] <k1l> sturgbot: it stays on x.org
[19:22] <hook> arecord and aplay worked great, I could hear myself
[19:22] <steffen-ubuntu> hallo
[19:22] <steffen-ubuntu> wo bin ich hier
[19:23] <nicomachus> !de | steffen-ubuntu
[19:23] <OerHeks> steffen-ubuntu, read the topic :-)
[19:23] <steffen-ubuntu> thank you
[19:26] <Bashing-om> fuze: Any hints in any of the log files from 'ls -al /var/log/dist-upgrade' ?
[19:28] <docmur> how I can kill all sendmail processes on my server?  When I do a ps- aux | grep sendmail i See : /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i  and I want to kill all of them, I tried pkill sendmail and pkill /usr/sbin/sendmail and it didn't work
[19:29] <mike_LR> docmur, have you tried "killall sendmail"?
[19:29] <OerHeks> sudo service sendmail stop
[19:29] <TJ-> docmur: what service do they belong to? "dpkg -S $(readlink -e /usr/sbin/sendmail)" might help identify the owning package
[19:29] <OerHeks> killing it, will restart the deamon i guess
[19:30] <TJ-> postfix has a replacement for sendmail so it can depend on where the symlink points to as to which service owns the process
[19:31] <docmur> sendmail-bin /usr/lib/sm.bin/sendmail
[19:32] <Bashing-om> fuze: I see a common cause as proprietary driver/Xorg stack . Also have a look : http://askubuntu.com/questions/541246/unable-to-upgrade-from-14-04-to-14-10-cannot-calculate-upgrades .
[19:34] <TJ-> docmur: so you can figure out the service controller for that with "dpkg -L sendmail-bin | grep init"
[19:37] <hook> HELL YES
[19:37] <fuze> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/iNLZBxDL/
[19:37] <fuze> Bashing-om: ^
[19:38] <hook> TJ, wishing I hadn't gone with the first code snippet on that link
[19:38] <Bashing-om> fuze: Look'n at your https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/iNLZBxDL/ .
[19:39] <fuze> Bashing-om: austin@Austin-Desktop:~$ grep ERROR /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log
[19:39] <fuze> 2016-01-24 14:30:40,706 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[19:40] <hook> so I'm going to give my first screencasting a go with recordmydesktop and gucview for the webcam
[19:40] <hook> anything to look out for?
[19:42] <TJ-> fuze: to get an idea of what is breaking, use "sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes install <PACKAGENAME>"
[19:42] <fuze> TJ-: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[19:43] <TJ-> fuze: adjust your copy/paste then; it took a linebreak from the IRC client
[19:44] <Bashing-om> fuze: How about ' ls -al /var/log/dist-upgrade/20160124-1238/apt.log ;  ls -al /var/log/dist-upgrade/20160124-1238/main.log ' Should be the log of the last attempt .
[19:44] <fuze> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Koatd4az/
[19:45] <fuze> Bashing-om: ^
[19:45] <AlexPortable> I have these folders in my home directory, how can I find out what they are for? .pki .local .gnome2_private .gnome2 .gconf .config .cache
[19:46] <e-vent> open them with nano
[19:46] <e-vent> they are all hidden config files for various programs
[19:46] <Punkoivan> folder?
[19:46] <AlexPortable> is there a list which program creates which folder?
[19:46] <Punkoivan> Just press Ctrl + H and all ok +)
[19:46] <Bashing-om> fuze: It is TJ- Who taught me, when all else fails, read the instructiuons . The filles are there .. any thing relevant when cat'n the files ?
[19:46] <AlexPortable> I only want to backup a certain set of applications
[19:47] <e-vent> AlexPortable, not really, go by their names
[19:47] <e-vent> and by the obvious ones
[19:47] <AlexPortable> what is .cache for ?
[19:47] <fuze> Bashing-om: cat'n?
[19:47] <e-vent> caching presumably, could be one program or many
[19:47] <AlexPortable> if I want to restore a backup do I need it?
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  to speed up your pc, so it gets files from your hdd, not from the internet
[19:48] <Bashing-om> fuze: ' cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/20160124-1238/apt.log ' for instance .
[19:48] <e-vent> you will not need the cache
[19:48] <AlexPortable> What else don't I need?
[19:48] <AlexPortable> .pki ?
[19:49] <fuze> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/gacWmhYr
[19:50] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, any folder with a . you would not need to backup AFAIK
[19:50] <Dro> can I use any Ubuntu mirror without problems ? For example is it dangerous to use this one: http://bouyguestelecom.ubuntu.lafibre.info/ubuntu/ ?
[19:50] <AlexPortable> OerHeks: well then I loose my DE settings for some folder
[19:50] <AlexPortable> in previous backups I just restored my home folder with the . in front of it, now I want to cut down in size some like cache for example
[19:51] <xangua> AlexPortable: next time you install Ubuntu, I suggest you to make a separate /home partition
[19:51] <OerHeks> Dro, seems a legit mirror, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/bouygues-telecom
[19:51] <AlexPortable> xangua: why?
[19:51] <akik> dot files and directories hold your configuration data. please don't delete them if you are not sure
[19:51] <AlexPortable> well I'm trying to find out which aren't important
[19:51] <AlexPortable> .cache for example isn't important I just learned
[19:52] <Dro> OerHeks, thanks! :D
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  delete .cache and you'll see, nothing really changes
[19:52] <xangua> AlexPortable: so you don't have to backup/restore your desktop settings/files everytime for whatever reason you need to reinstall
[19:52] <AlexPortable> xangua: I have, I'm replacing harddisk
[19:53] <xangua> AlexPortable: oh, can't you just clone it then?
[19:53] <AlexPortable> I can, but I only want to get the files that I need
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  with a separate /home partition, your personal files and settings are safe, if you have to reinstall or fresh install ubuntu ... your desktop/wallpaper stays the same etc
[19:54] <AlexPortable> Oh I remember why I didn't do that, I can't make more than x partitions
[19:54] <AlexPortable> windows and recovery partition take some space too
[19:54] <Bashing-om> fuze: look'n at your http://pastebin.com/gacWmhYr .
[19:55] <hook> anyone know of good video editing software for 12.04?
[19:55] <OerHeks> openshot, still my nr 1
[19:55] <hook> I may build my own html/backbone app to delegate ffmpeg commands
[19:55] <Dro> my ubuntu is using 5690 M of RAM.. is that normal?
[19:55] <AlexPortable> Dro: depends on which programs you have open
[19:55] <TJ-> !linuxatemyram | Dro
[19:56] <OerHeks> 10 tabs firefox?
[19:56] <AlexPortable> Where does ubuntu stores the last chosen DE when logging in?
[19:56] <TJ-> !memory | Dro
[19:56] <Dro> AlexPortable, using firefox, chromium
[19:57] <TJ-> AlexPortable: lightdm stores the session, under /var/lib/lightdm/ I think, but don't recall the exact file
[19:57] <hook> OerHeks: checked it out, not bad
[19:57] <AlexPortable> .dmrc also has something like last session
[19:57] <AlexPortable> what's it for?
[19:57] <hook> OerHeks: youtube channel?
[19:58] <TJ-> AlexPortable: "/var/cache/lightdm/dmrc/$USER.dmrc"
[19:58] <OerHeks> hook, i haven't uploaded anything created with openshot, yet.
[19:58] <hook> I'm just starting, no idea what the best format to record in is
[19:59] <hook> I need the one I can process out to all the formats from my build server
[19:59] <hook> also there'll be rtmp and the other one, rts?
[20:00] <Remind> Hey guys, I'm stuck lol. Upgraded to 15. When I try to login I get a failed to load session when I try to login. When I CTRL+ALT+F1 I can login just fine but no GUI. When I run a check on apt get It says that the following packages have unmet dependencies: Ubuntu-desktop
[20:01] <xangua> Remind: updated to what release from what release? There's no Ubuntu 15
[20:01] <Bashing-om> fuze: Ouch !! " Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 65 " What does '  cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/20160124-1238/main.log ' reveal ?
[20:01] <ioria> Remind, how did you upgrade ?
[20:01] <Remind> The command list dist upgrade command
[20:02] <fuze> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/58zCpcG4/
[20:02] <fuze> Bashing-om: ^
[20:02] <Remind> And when I try to install Ubuntu desktop, it says it has unmet dependencies too (Ubuntu-session, etc.).
[20:03] <ioria> Remind,  you upgraded from what to what ?
[20:03] <mcphail> hook: Linux video editing software is limited and buggy. There isn't a perfect option: everything has serious flaws. I find the blender video editor is best for my needs
[20:03] <Remind> From 14.04 to the latest
[20:04] <xangua> Remind: 15.10?
[20:04] <ioria> Remind,  you needed to upgrade to 15.04, first
[20:04] <hook> mcphail: what's the master/best format to aim for recording?
[20:04] <Bashing-om> fuze: Look'n at the latest https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/58zCpcG4/ .
[20:04] <hook> mkv? avi? og?
[20:04] <ioria> Remind,  cat /etc/issue   and uname -r
[20:05] <hook> x264 - no idea lol
[20:05] <AlexPortable> TJ-: No I mean i have that file in my home folder
[20:05] <OerHeks> Remind, did you have HWE enabled before upgrading?
[20:05] <Remind> 15.04 is the version
[20:05] <ioria> Remind,  uname -r
[20:06] <xangua> ioria: I've seen problems like this since December 30, the update manager prompts the upgrade to 15.04 or 15.10 in 14.04, I think this is a bug but haven't found something myself
[20:06] <Remind> 3.19.0-47-generic
[20:06] <ioria> xangua, i see
[20:06] <ioria> Remind,  do you have a /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log     ? or similar ?
[20:08] <asdf-> hello, I am finding various howtos that were written 1-2+ years ago for SSD Caching in Ubuntu. Can anyone recommend a tutorial on what is considered best practice today?
[20:08] <ioria> Remind,  and paste the output of sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:09] <mcphail> hook: don't confuse containers with codecs. mkv is a container, which can wrap video encoded with, say, the x264 codec along with audio encoded with mp3, flac etc
[20:09] <hook> ah I see, that's given me some context to understand this better - thanks
[20:09] <hook> I skipped that primer :)
[20:10] <hook> so x264 for the video and flac for the audio?
[20:11] <Remind> One second joining in another computer, on a phone right now
[20:11] <hook> this is off-channel-topic, sorry guys - I'll endeavour to hunt down
[20:11] <mcphail> hook: as an example, yes. You need to work out what your target requires, and pick an audio and video codec and container to suit
[20:12] <BiilD73> ok, got everything with my NFS share working until I have a reboot. After I reboot, my clients cannot dive into the shares deeper then share name. I have to term in and run exportfs -a. I'm sure its a mount issue but to new to know where to start looking at. the shares are on multiple ext usb hdds
[20:12] <Remind> I won't be able to copy and paste, Ubuntus my main OS it's not on a VM
[20:12] <mcphail> hook: also, have a look at https://obsproject.com/ for screencasting software, if that is your thing
[20:12] <CheeryLee> Hello everyone! Could you help me?
[20:12] <ioria> Remind,  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[20:13] <hook> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_container_formats
[20:13] <hook> MKV looks best according to this
[20:13] <OerHeks> asdf-, 2 guides https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization and https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd, i use  "noatime" in /etc/fstab only
[20:13] <Tommii> i thought x265 replaced x264?
[20:13] <BiilD73> CheeryLee just ask, someone will help if they can
[20:13] <Bashing-om> fuze: " 2016-01-24 12:03:34,445 DEBUG Foreign: >> a huge hige list " I just do not think we want to try and fight our way through all this . Would not a backup and a clean fresh install be in your best interest ?
[20:13] <CheeryLee> Anybody could help me with Ubuntu Touch porting?
[20:13] <asdf-> OerHeks, thank you
[20:13] <mcphail> hook: mkv is one of the best from a technical point of view, but some older players cannot handle it
[20:14] <Tommii> why use x264, instead of x265?
[20:14] <Remind> When I try that, I get a bunch of dependencies errors
[20:14] <ioria> Remind,  ok
[20:14] <showaz> http://i.imgur.com/bq1jnJH.png xorg r.i.p.
[20:14] <hook> I hope it's easy to transcode mkvs in ffmpeg then
[20:14] <mcphail> Tommii: x265 is still in early development, and there isn't hardware support yet
[20:14] <ioria> Remind,  sudo apt-get update
[20:14] <Remind> Depends Ubuntu-desktop, unity-control-center, unity-settings-daemon
[20:14] <hook> I'm hoping to make gifs for editing videos online
[20:15] <pieter__> Hey guys I'm runing Lubuntu on a 2ghz, 2GB RAM, Nvidia card with 512 MB laptop.. When I play videos on youtube the video lags (the sound plays fine) I suppose that's not normal behaviour to be expected for this machine?
[20:15] <Tommii> mcphail: what hardware support is it missing? it works fine in Windows/linux/mac
[20:15] <hook> compilations of perception differencing tests, quick animation
[20:15] <hook> some screencasting too
[20:15] <OerHeks> be creative & succesfull, hook
[20:15] <Remind> That updates and at the end it has some unknown multi arch type 'no' for a handful of compiz packages
[20:15] <mcphail> Tommii: video acceleration. For example, on mobile devices
[20:16] <CheeryLee> So, I built Ubuntu Touch on my Samsung tablet, but... don't know how to flash system
[20:16] <ioria> Remind,  sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:16] <k1l> CheeryLee: #ubuntu-touch for that specifics
[20:16] <CheeryLee> All methods in Internet are deprecated
[20:16] <xangua> ! Touch | CheeryLee
[20:16] <mcphail> Tommii: just now it relies on software/CPU
[20:16] <pieter__> In additional drivers (in software & updates) i do have a nvida driver installed;. Howcome youtube videos lag? the sound plae
[20:16] <showaz> wayland the best, no bugs.
[20:16] <Remind> When I run upgrade, it brings me back to the Ubuntu-desktop unmet dependecids
[20:17] <tlogic> hello everyone. Is there any way to force change the value of /sys/block/mmcblk0/device/cid ??
[20:17] <k1l> Remind: please put those erorrs into a pastebin so we can have a look. paste.ubuntu.com
[20:17] <Remind> How? It's my main OS not a VM
[20:18] <ioria> Remind,  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades    is set to lts or to normal ?
[20:18] <k1l> Remind: does that pc have internet connection?
[20:18] <showaz> 16.04 now working login screen ?
[20:18] <Remind> normal
[20:19] <Remind> And yeah! I'm just working with terminal, I had to control alt f1 at the login screen
[20:19] <ioria> Remind, we need the pastebinits ....
[20:19] <Remind_> I'm on a second computer now
[20:19] <xangua> ! 16.04 | showaz
[20:19] <Bashing-om> showaz: Ask that in #ubuntu+1 channel .
[20:19] <k1l> showaz: 16.04 is still in development.
[20:19] <Remind_> Is it possible for me to take the output and save it on a USB from terminal?
[20:20] <ioria> Remind, can you ssh ?
[20:20] <Tommii> how do i get a list of Obotto commands, i am PM'ing it now
[20:20] <Tommii> Ubottu
[20:20] <SchrodingersScat> !usingthebot
[20:20] <showaz> ! Parallels Desktop 11 16.04 | showaz
[20:21] <nicomachus> !bot | showaz
[20:21] <Punkoivan> which program you're using for IRC?
[20:22] <CheeryLee> Xchat
[20:22] <Remind_> Trying to think of aw ay I can get this to you in a paste bin
[20:22] <Remind_> I'm really stuck for ideas
[20:22] <SchrodingersScat> !factoids | Tommii, !factoids also brings up that msg
[20:22] <ioria> Remind, can you ssh ?
[20:22] <nicomachus> Remind_: can you install pastebinit? apt-get install pastebinit
[20:22] <showaz> sed /isis/irssi/
[20:22] <mcphail> Remind_: pipe the output through nc termbin.com 9999
[20:22] <ioria> Remind, openbox is working ?
[20:22] <OerHeks> termbin indeed, needs nothing to install
[20:23] <Remind_> When I try to install pastebinit, I'm brought back up with the ubuntu-desktop thing
[20:23] <mcphail> Remind_: i.e. "whatever your command is | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:24] <k1l> Remind_: "sudo apt update |nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:24] <ioria> Remind,  ^^^^
[20:24] <Remind_> ItWARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface yet. Use with caution in scripts
[20:25] <Remind_> Then I get a bunch of Multi-ARch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core, gnome, core, gnome core...etc'
[20:26] <Remind_> Wait, did it work?
[20:26] <Remind_> http://termbin.com/jcg2
[20:26] <ioria> Remind,   misses the end ...
[20:27] <Tommii> Remind_: what DE are you on?
[20:28] <Remind_> OMG this is so cool, haha
[20:28] <Remind_> okay, here's what I got from upgrade
[20:28] <Remind_> http://termbin.com/7ovq
[20:28] <mcphail> Remind_: "sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:28] <Tommii> SchrodingersScat: thanks for that
[20:28] <Remind_> Regardless of my system being completely smashed, this is so cool that I can send my logs like this. I never knew this lol
[20:28] <ioria> Remind,  apt-get -f install
[20:28] <k1l> Remind_: try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[20:29] <derpititusus> Thanks again for being awesome! Enjoy your day/night!
[20:29] <Remind_> apt-get -f install: here's the output http://termbin.com/af4n
[20:29] <Tommii> Remind_: i thought you were doing a clean install, not an upgrade? or was that another guy named "Remind"?
[20:30] <Remind_> I did yesterday, but about an hour ago I tried to upgrade to 15
[20:30] <Remind_> I was using 14.04
[20:30] <Remind_> Someone suggested in the chat earlier that I upgrade because my screen would lock when I closed the lid
[20:30] <Remind_> Now, here I am lol
[20:30] <Tommii> Remind_: so if it is a clean install, why not start fresh? why go thru alll these upgrades?
[20:31] <ioria> Remind,  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[20:31] <Remind_> Because I started my assignment this morning, about 4 pages into my paper
[20:31] <Remind_> If I can fix it, I'd like to lol
[20:31] <Tommii> if you just installed yesterday, it'd be easier to install 15.10 fresh. you have not much to backup
[20:32] <Tommii> Remind_: are you on XFCE? xubuntu
[20:32] <showaz> xubuntu not r.i.p. ?
[20:32] <Remind_> ioria: http://termbin.com/r2an
[20:33] <Remind_> Tommii: I'm just using Ubuntu
[20:33] <ioria> Remind,  sudo apt-get -f install  , again
[20:33] <k1l_> Remind_: what is the issue at all?
[20:33] <OerHeks> k1l_, the upgrade should not be offered in 14.04.3 to 15.04 ...
[20:34] <showaz> ioria: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[20:34] <k1l_> uh, i bet it was some -d involved
[20:34] <ioria> Remind,  yeah, try that sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[20:34] <k1l_> showaz: xubuntu is not dead. its still a official flavour
[20:34] <Remind_> k1l_: I had Ubuntu 14.04. My computer would freeze after I opened the lid at the login screen. A user suggested I upgrade to 15, so I did. After it restarted I would get an error at the login saying it failed to load session. All I can do his CTRL+ALT+F1 and get a terminal. It seems ubuntu-desktop isn't installed and its dependcies
[20:34] <Remind_> Okay, one second!
[20:35] <Remind_> ioria: http://termbin.com/g2u3 it gave me a similar error
[20:35] <Tommii> k1l_: what is the " -d " command you are referring to?
[20:35] <ioria> Remind,  but you can get the login screen   ?
[20:35] <showaz> k1l_: reaper Mark Shuttleworth not rip actors xubuntu?
[20:36] <nicomachus> showaz: no.
[20:36] <OerHeks> k1l no, proof : http://askubuntu.com/questions/724635/error-upgrading-ubuntu-14-04-to-15-04-error-authenticating-some-pakages
[20:36] <Remind_> ioria: Yeah, it boots to the login screen but says failed to load session after I put in my password
[20:36] <k1l_> Tommii: most bad howtos and youtubevideos suggest to run the updaters with -d, which is meant to upgrade to the next development release
[20:36] <showaz> Remind_: short password?
[20:36] <Remind_> Which led me here to the terminal
[20:37] <Remind_> showaz: Yeah, not too long
[20:37] <ioria> Remind,  have you tried openbox ?
[20:37] <k1l_> showaz: i dont know what you are about at xubuntu
[20:37] <showaz> Remind_: short password deny security polity
[20:37] <Remind_> showaz: 8 characters, has numbers, but no upper/special characters
[20:38] <showaz> Remind_: >> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/06/minimum-password-length-ubuntu/
[20:38] <ioria> Remind,  can you paste   apt-cache policy ubuntu-session
[20:38] <k1l_> Remind_: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-session"
[20:38] <xangua> k1l_: ioria  for the record, these are image captures of the update manager suggesting to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/724635/error-upgrading-ubuntu-14-04-to-15-04-error-authenticating-some-pakages
[20:38] <showaz> Remind_: minlen=1 (pam)
[20:39] <k1l_> xangua: could still be triggered by a -d
[20:39] <D-Rayven> test
[20:39] <ioria> xangua,  that's interesting ...
[20:39] <showaz> recovery-mode boot or leave-cd
[20:39] <showaz> chroot mnt
[20:39] <xangua> k1l_: most users just claim it just appeared to them
[20:39] <k1l_> xangua: hmm ok
[20:39] <Remind_> ioria: http://termbin.com/r6be
[20:39] <hasdf> hello
[20:40] <user23456789> Hey guys, what do you suggest as security tools for Ubuntu?
[20:40] <Tommii> user23456789: privacytools.io
[20:40] <k1l_> Remind_: try to install it. we need to get to know why thats not installed
[20:40] <k1l_> Remind_: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-session"
[20:40] <ioria> Remind,  it's correct for vivid
[20:40] <Punkoivan> what do you mean "security"?
[20:40] <Remind_> k1l_: http://termbin.com/yqk9
[20:40] <Tommii> Remind_: try Xubuntu  :)
[20:40] <user23456789> So it secure for normal usage, like social media, bank account
[20:40] <user23456789> yes
[20:40] <user23456789> security
[20:40] <ioria> Remind,  but not installed :þ
[20:40] <Punkoivan> yep
[20:40] <k1l_> Remind_: we need to find the end of the line: "sudo apt-get install unity-settings-daemon"
[20:41] <Remind_> k1l_: E: Unable to locate package unity-settings
[20:42] <AlexPortable> If I make changes to gnome-control panel where is that stored?
[20:42] <hasdf> I have installed Ubuntu 15.10 on a Samsung ultrabook 5. (With LVM on Luks). After a restart I'm in the grub console. Wanted to chroot in and fix it, but can't open bios and it doesn't recognize my usb stick (from which I installed ubuntu) in the boot menu.
[20:42] <hasdf> Any way to boot lvm on luks from the grub command line?
[20:42] <user23456789> Security tools, that avoid getting hacked in any manner
[20:42] <k1l_> Remind_: -demon    at the end of package name
[20:42] <user23456789> I just install the firewall
[20:42] <Bashing-om> user23456789: Desktop and non-Windows ? Then 'buntu is secure out of the box . No user intervention is required . Server open to the world or interchanging files with Windows' is a different matter .
[20:42] <user23456789> and nothign more
[20:42] <user23456789> what more do you suggest?
[20:43] <ioria> Remind,  again, please    sudo apt-get install unity-settings-daemon
[20:43] <k1l_> user23456789: the strategy is to not load code from any websites. ubuntu fixes known security issues in their softtware repo
[20:43] <user23456789> So you say that Ubuntu itself dont need any additional program for being secure?
[20:43] <Remind_> k1l_: http://termbin.com/ixug
[20:43] <OerHeks> !info clamav
[20:43] <showaz> security not work with a connect network cable :)
[20:44] <ioria> Remind,  maybe purge it all....
[20:44] <OerHeks> firewall and updates & sensible use of the internet
[20:44] <Remind_> ioria: http://termbin.com/15qt
[20:44] <user23456789> Perfect, how can I know that the update that I have etc are coming from real Ubuntu Servers?
[20:44] <Guest21301> good ?
[20:44] <showaz> Remind_: conflict packages
[20:44] <k1l_> Remind_: sudo apt-get install unity
[20:44] <showaz> yum/dnf easy conflict resolve
[20:45] <Remind_> k1l_: http://termbin.com/yqvk
[20:45] <k1l_> user23456789: the hashes of the packages are checked
[20:45] <OerHeks> user23456789, the repo keys are your safety
[20:45] <user23456789> are checked automatically?
[20:45] <Guest21301> i'm tryingout ubuntu and dubain any sudgestions
[20:45] <k1l_> somehow it still wants to install a 14.04 unity package
[20:46] <Bashing-om> user23456789: All are "signed" do: ' sudo apt-key finger ' to see all the signing keys .
[20:46] <k1l_> user23456789: yes
[20:46] <user23456789> I dont have to do anything?; the thing is that the other day a friend of mine told me "dude Linux OS is the most exploited and hacked OS in the market" and I said I he was obviously wrong
[20:46] <ioria> Remind,  it wants to install trusty packages versions ...
[20:46] <user23456789>  just wanted to confirm with people that really know about the matter
[20:47] <Remind_> Is there anything I can do to fix it?
[20:47] <Alphos> hiya people :) tiny question about cron jobs i've always wondered but never enough to properly check : when several cron jobs exist with the same time constraints in the crontab for a given user, are they run consecutively or concurrently ?
[20:47] <Remind_> And guys, thank you very much for trying to help me
[20:47] <k1l_> user23456789: most hacked linux machines are servers run by beginners having too easy passwords getting bruteforced.
[20:47] <ioria> Remind_    if no other solution purge the DE
[20:48] <Remind_> How would I do that?
[20:48] <k1l_> user23456789: but that is still not much against hacked windows
[20:48] <user23456789> Yes I though that something like that was the only like possibility where the things he told me really applied
[20:48] <Bashing-om> user23456789: I have run 'buntu for many years . Out of the box and have never experienced an issue . Our peeps are real quick to jump on and correct any security issues .
[20:48] <Remind_> And where would that leave me? Would i lose my files?
[20:48] <Alphos> (and now i do wonder enough to properly check, cumulative time could be longer than the time spacing)
[20:48] <user23456789> what do yo mean that "is still not much against hacked windows"?
[20:48] <Tommii> user23456789: was your friend this guy? LOL  https://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6033/geeksquadgusphotou11.jpg
[20:49] <ioria> Remind_    your console is working.... suggest to backup your files
[20:49] <user23456789> LOL jajajaja
[20:49] <user23456789> no no
[20:49] <Remind_> ioria: Would it save my documents/videos/music?
[20:49] <user23456789> but he is similar lol jajaja
[20:49] <ioria> Remind_    sure, have you tried openbox ?
[20:49] <TJ-> Remind_: check for trusty repos still enabled: "grep trusty /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[20:49] <k1l_> user23456789: the most hacked machines are windows since its the most marketshare.
[20:49] <Remind_> I haven't, only Ubuntu
[20:50] <ioria> Remind_    sure, sorry
[20:50] <OerHeks> user23456789, question your friends numbers
[20:50] <xangua> Remind_: I think this is some kind of bug, the update manager shouldn't have suggest you to skip releases in the first place...I've seen problems like this posted since December 30
[20:51] <Remind_> TJ-: http://termbin.com/6cdp
[20:51] <Remind_> xangua: Oh :(
[20:51] <Tommii> Remind_: just start over bro.  with 15.10 or whatever disto you like.  this install is only 1 day old, no need to salvage it  :P
[20:52] <OerHeks> Tommii, he needs his data, so just reinstall is now not an option
[20:52] <Bashing-om> !virus | user23456789
[20:52] <Remind_> Tommii: What can I do to prevent this though? It's got me worried with only having one computer and one OS. Kind of nervous using Ubuntu with this problem happening my second day into it
[20:52] <xangua> Remind_: but somehow this doesn't appear the attention it should have...
[20:52] <Tommii> ioria: what is the difference between openbox and LXDE+openbox?
[20:52] <TJ-> Remind_: that looks fine, what does "apt-cache policy unity" report?
[20:52] <ioria> Remind_    i thinks it comes with it
[20:52] <nebula_> Hey Can someone help me out with a problem I am having ?
[20:53] <ioria> Tommii,     i thinks it comes with it
[20:53] <Tommii> OerHeks: he can back up his data, obvi
[20:53] <user23456789> Perfect
[20:53] <Remind_> TJ-: http://termbin.com/8ly0
[20:53] <LonelyDanbo> why does the "Software Updater" always "Failed to download repository information"?
[20:53] <Bashing-om> nebula_: Ask and see .
[20:53] <user23456789> So guys do you know why Dota2 (Valve-Steam) is having fps lag now a days?
[20:53] <Alphos> welp, i simply tried with two sleep 5 ; date >> ~/date.tmp, and it appears to be concurrent :) yay \o/
[20:53] <Remind_> Again, just want to say it again since other people have pitched in to help. Thank you guys so much for helping me out
[20:53] <user23456789> using it on Ubuntu?
[20:54] <OerHeks> LonelyDanbo, show us some log, maybe you added a PPA without packages for your version
[20:54] <ioria> Remind_    always the trusty one
[20:54] <LonelyDanbo> OerHeks, I don't know how to do that.
[20:54] <OerHeks> LonelyDanbo, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade # and past it on paste.ubuntu.com
[20:55] <LonelyDanbo> I broke my Wine game and now I'm trying to fix it. I hope I don't break it more. This is always such an ordeal.
[20:55] <nebula_> I have the MayFlash controller adapter for WiiU and PC when I try to plug in my gamecube controller it acts as a mouse and I can't set it to be used as a controller in the emulator visual boy advance how can I get it to start working as a controller instead of a mouse
[20:55] <LonelyDanbo> I broke it by updating. I don't even know how I managed to update with this error happening.
[20:55] <ioria> Remind_    i'm suggesting you , after backup, to purge ubuntu-desktop and autoremove
[20:56] <Remind_> ioria: How would I back up right now, in the terminal?
[20:56] <Tommii> ioria: what distro do you use?
[20:56] <nebula_> Ubuntu
[20:56] <ioria> Tommii,   lts 14.04.3
[20:56] <Tommii> ioria: DE?
[20:56] <LonelyDanbo> oh... I'm using Ubuntu 15.04 and 15.10 is available... I wonder if upgrading will cause more problems. I bet it will. updating always causes problems.
[20:56] <ioria> Tommii,   unity and lxde
[20:57] <ioria> Remind_    insert a usb  and cp the files
[20:57] <TJ-> Remind_: So, the upgrade went from 14.04 > 15.04, and now unity (14.04) is still installed, but the package-manager only knows about the 15.04 version. Do you get any better result from "sudo apt-get install unity libunity-core-6.0-9"
[20:57] <Tommii> Remind_: oh you only have terminal now?  if you dont like terminal, its easy to boot from a LIVE CD, and backup files that way.... Then NUKE ur system and start over, brother :)
[20:57] <LonelyDanbo> ... do I upgrade or do I run that command?
[20:58] <TJ-> Remind_: try adding "--reinstall" before the "install" command there, too
[20:58] <ioria> Remind_   yeah, in live you have to mount your partitions
[20:58] <oula> I have this error " E: Failed to fetch http::///iq.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/usbmount_0.0.22_all. deb 404 not found "
[20:58] <Tommii> Remind_: Nuke it from outer-space  :P
[20:58] <Remind_> TJ-: I added --reinstall, http://termbin.com/0msv
[20:59] <ioria> omg
[20:59] <Remind_> Tommii: Tempted to, lol
[20:59] <xangua> LonelyDanbo: you haven't even told us how you "broke" wine, but indeed 14.04 support will end in one or two weeks
[20:59] <TJ-> Remind_: that is suggesting the archive lists are out of date. "sudo apt-get update" then retry the command
[21:00] <LonelyDanbo> I broke wine by updating through "Software Updater". It updated Wine, and then my game stopped being able to launch.
[21:00] <Tommii> xangua: what? Wine doesnt support 14.04? you sure?
[21:00] <xangua> Tommii: 15.04 I mean, phone keyboard
[21:01] <Oskar> hi!
[21:01] <Oskar> just downloades lubunty
[21:01] <Oskar> downloaded lubuntu
[21:01] <xangua> LonelyDanbo: did you add a PPA for wine?
[21:01] <oula> please anyone can help me .. i have problems in installing packages
[21:01] <TJ-> oula: "sudo apt-get update"
[21:01] <LonelyDanbo> I had a PPA for Wine before. but it always gives that error.
[21:01] <xangua> oula: what Ubuntu release are you using?
[21:01] <Tommii> Remind_: Welcome to Linux    Day #2.       (◔ ‿ ◔)o自*clink*自o(◔ ‿ ◔)♫♪
[21:02] <Wayward_Vagabond> I installed xubuntu 14.04lts last night, I got graphics and java working, but my wifi is acting up. It randomly drops the network I
[21:02] <Oskar> how do i update Firefox and install new themes on lubuntu??
[21:02] <Wayward_Vagabond> 'm connected to, and I have to disable and reenable wifi to be able to see it and reconnect
[21:03] <Wayward_Vagabond> Sometimes after it drops the connection, it hides all the wifi networks.
[21:03] <Oskar> ?????
[21:03] <xangua> Oskar: latest Firefox in Ubuntu is Firefox 43
[21:04] <nicomachus> Oskar: `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade` will update everything on your system.
[21:04] <Oskar> i have LUBUNTU
[21:04] <squinty> oula,  if you use your web browser to log on to http://iq.archive.ubuntu.com/  you will see there is nothing there.  might want to change your server
[21:05] <ioria> Oskar, the same
[21:05] <oula_> TJ- it does not work
[21:05] <LonelyDanbo> damnit. the update is removing kdenlive again. I wonder if this time it will remove the working folder and if I need to back it up.
[21:05] <Wayward_Vagabond> Oskar: Ubuntu, as well as (k/x/l)ubuntu all share the same set of repos
[21:05] <Oskar> ah
[21:06] <Oskar> do you recommend updating firefox on lubuntu?
[21:06] <ioria> Oskar,  yes
[21:06] <JackTheShark> Hi :)
[21:06] <Remind_> TJ-: Same error after running update
[21:06] <Wayward_Vagabond> Keeping the current version of most programs is advisable
[21:06] <Oskar> thank you
[21:06] <Remind_> TJ-: Am I doomed? :S
[21:06] <oula_> please anyone can help me .. i have problems in installing packages
[21:06] <Wayward_Vagabond> rather than letting it get out of date
[21:06] <ioria> Remind_,   backup, please
[21:06] <Oskar>  and how do i do system update when new lubuntu version is released
[21:07] <xangua> oula_: what Ubuntu release are you using? What's the command output? Please user a paste site
[21:07] <JackTheShark> can you help me i wana to make an iso cope of the running os
[21:07] <user23456789> but he is similar lol jajaja
[21:07] <LonelyDanbo> I'm going to close all programs while it updates. :(
[21:07] <ioria> Remind_,   your usb will mount on /media/user/something   , just  copy (cp) your files in there
[21:07] <Tommii> Remind_:  Nuke, Please.
[21:08] <Remind_> Haha, fine you win
[21:08] <Remind_> SoI'm downloading 15.10, think I'll be safe?
[21:09] <oula_> xangua , i am installing usbmount , E : failed to fetche http:///iq.archieve.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe
[21:09] <Tommii> Remind_: try a bunch and decide, before you install
[21:09] <xangua> LonelyDanbo: again, you've barely give us any info about your problem, besides wine "broke"
[21:09] <TJ-> Remind_: no, but it might be involved to fix. I'd force-remove unity so the old version is gone. "sudo apt-get purge unity libunity-core-6.0-9" (which should allow other 14.04 bits to be removed with "sudo apt-get autoremove" and then - possibly - allow clean install with "sudo apt-get install unity"
[21:09] <Remind_> I'm sure things were much more difficult when you all started, but man this is stressful for a new user
[21:10] <JackTheShark> @hmm maybe you select the worng server
[21:10] <Tommii> Remind_: to make sure you know what you like, try different distros & DE's
[21:10] <squinty> oula_, <squinty> oula,  if you use your web browser to log on to http://iq.archive.ubuntu.com/  you will see there is nothing there.  might want to change your server
[21:10] <ioria> Remind_,    i know, i know :þ
[21:10] <xangua> ! Paste | oula_: again, what Ubuntu release are you using? Can you show us the output of: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:10] <TJ-> oula_: if the archive mirror you're using is reporting HTTP 404 error (file not found) for a package, after you've updated the archive lists, then something is broken on that mirror server. You'd need to change the mirror the PC is using.
[21:12] <JackTheShark> guys i wana to make a copy of running os with all apps can you guid me?
[21:14] <TJ-> oula_: you can change the default archive servers with "sudo sed -i 's/iq\.//' /etc/apt/sources.list" then redo the lists with "sudo apt-get update" then you should be OK again
[21:14] <Wayward_Vagabond> Any idea what's causing my wifi wonkiness- the connect randomly dropping, and me being unable to connect until I disable and renable wifi?
[21:15] <TJ-> JackTheShark: just the same set of packages, or packages + system configuration, or packages + system configuration + user's files ?
[21:15] <Wayward_Vagabond> It only seems to drop when the connection is realtivelty idle (just irc going over it), but that could be dumb luck
[21:16] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: depends on the wifi chipset, and driver. Check log files for clues. For hardware/driver issues check /var/log/kern.log. For connection/WPA issues check /var/log/syslog
[21:16] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: that could be due to a power management issue where the interface is put into power-save mode and doesn't come out. There are known issues and power-save can be disabled.
[21:16] <JackTheShark> packages & system configuration & user files
[21:17] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: what's the 'name' of the wifi interface?
[21:18] <Wayward_Vagabond> Hmm, I see something that looks relevant in kern.log, uploading to a pastebin
[21:18] <Remind_> TJ-: Okay, so I did a force remove, the purge didn't do anything, auto remove did some work, and it installed unity. I did another update/upgrade and it didn't give me the errors like before
[21:18] <oula_> xangua , what do you mean by release ? .. i am using ubuntu server 14.04 .. when using update && upgrade , i have the same error of not fetching the http:///iq.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[21:18] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: "sudo iwconfig <IF_NAME> power off" will disable power-management (<IFNAME> will likely be "wlan0")
[21:18] <Remind_> TJ-: So I tried startx and it brought me to my Desktop, no menu or anything yet, but hey that's a lot more than before
[21:18] <TJ-> Remind_: That's looking promising!
[21:19] <Wayward_Vagabond> http://pastebin.com/4eNqxfKf
[21:19] <Wayward_Vagabond> This is the tail end of kern.log
[21:19] <oula_> ubuntu , i am using ubuntu server 14.04 .. when using update && upgrade , i have the same error of not fetching the http:///iq.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[21:19] <TJ-> Remind_: you shouldn't use startx. Use "sudo systemctl start lightdm.service" (SystemD init) or "sudo service lightdm start" (Upstart)
[21:19] <xangua> oula_: did you try to change the mirror? Use the main mirror perhaps?
[21:20] <oula_> xangua , how do i do this ?
[21:20] <TJ-> oula_: you've changed the sources.list incorrectly; it should be http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[21:21] <Wayward_Vagabond> "Error for wireless request "Set Power Management" (8B2C) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported."
[21:21] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: OK, so apparently not that! That's the first easy fix out the window :)
[21:22] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: when it is active, what does "iwconfig wlan0" report (any retries/Invalids) ?
[21:23] <xangua> oula_: open the software centre, go to the edit menu, sources...a new window opens and in the very first tab you can change the mirrors.
[21:23] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: if you do "modinfo -F parm rtl8192ce" (that's the kernel driver) you might see a couple of power-control settings (swlps and fwlps) - is that correct?
[21:23] <sor_> i can't seem to get the track list from any of the ipad songs rhytmbox only list 11 songs and amarok lists with no metadata this is what it looks like --- still can not get it to go id3 thing we talked about ---- http://ibin.co/2UbMHHE1gSjA
[21:24] <Remind_> TJ-: Just an update, I had to restart because nothing was happened. The login screen still shows up, I was able to login! My menu doesn't show up, my wallpaper loads. However, the update manager popped up letting me know that 15.10 is available so I'm letting it upgrade to it!
[21:24] <Wayward_Vagabond> iw config results http://pastebin.com/f1kFyum4
[21:24] <Remind_> TJ-: I can't thank you enough, I have a good feeling about this
[21:25] <TJ-> Remind_: don't break it again too soon :D
[21:26] <xangua> Remind_: upgrade again sounds like a bad idea
[21:26] <Wayward_Vagabond> Hmm, that last command had an interesting line. "ips:Set to 0 to not use link power save (default 1)
[21:26] <Wayward_Vagabond> "
[21:26] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: iwconfig output looks good. I notice the rtl8192ce module also has the "ips" parm, which is also related to link-state power management
[21:26] <Remind_> xangua: Well, I was able to back up my files. So now I'm just in it for the ride and to procrastinate finishing my paper
[21:26] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: did you see sqlps/fwlps ?
[21:27] <Remind_> This has been a stressful second day of linux, haha. I hope it's not like this for me all of the time as I have no other OS lol
[21:27] <oula_> TJ- , i dont know how to write the command to change the archive server .. can you full write it please
[21:27] <Wayward_Vagabond> fwlps had a similar line
[21:27] <xangua> 3:23 PM <xangua> oula_: open the software centre, go to the edit menu, sources...a new window opens and in the very first tab you can change the mirrors.
[21:28] <Wayward_Vagabond> fwlps:Set to 1 to use FW control power save (default 1)
[21:28] <TJ-> oula_: you can change the default archive servers with "sudo sed -i 's/iq\./archive./' /etc/apt/sources.list" then redo the lists with "sudo apt-get update"
[21:28] <luvenfu> hello, can someone help me some information about a specific wifi driver from Lenovo Ideapad 100?
[21:29] <Wayward_Vagabond> So if I'm understanding, if my connection activity is low enough for long enough, it disconnects me to try and save power?
[21:29] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: OK, so 'fwlps' is allowing (by default) the BIOS firmware to set power-state but swlps (by default) doesn't allow software control (as in that "iwconfig wlan0 power off" command), and "ips" is on for default power-save. There's no indication in kern.log of power-saving actions (although there don't need to be) so it might be worth disabling Wireless Networking briefly, then unloading and
[21:30] <TJ-> reloading the module with some of those settings changed
[21:32] <S_J> anyone that know googles multiplayer system well? i want a system where you have a title holder and you need to earn your reputation to be able to play him. can this bi implemented on the side of the multiplayer api?
[21:32] <Wayward_Vagabond> Um, can you please explain how to do that? Unload/reload the module and change it's settings
[21:32] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: once Wireless network is disabled via "nmcli nm wifi off" then unload module with "sudo modprobe -r rtl8192ce" then "sudo modprobe rtl8192ce ips=0" and then "nmcli nm wifi on"
[21:32] <Wayward_Vagabond> Ah, thanks
[21:32] <riqj> hello everyone, my usb is shown as unknown. when I last turned off my computer it was connected (I didnt unmount it before turning off)..could this have damaged the file system?
[21:32] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: you can repeat that sequence to alter those other 'parm' options in the same way, or use multiple options at the same time by space-separating them on the command line
[21:34] <luvenfu> TJ, where i can get this driver? http://pastebin.com/TVNfAKgZ
[21:35] <TJ-> luvenfu: redo that using "lspci -nn" which gives the [Vendor:Device] IDs
[21:37] <Remind_> TJ-: Still updating, it's got a lot of files and I think my connection isn't the best right now. Again, can't thank you enough
[21:37] <Remind_> You guys are extremely smart here and I really admire how helpful you all are. As I learn things I hope to be in your shoes; in a position to help other new people.
[21:37] <luvenfu> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/GmtgPzdi
[21:39] <oula_> TJ- , thank you very much .. done .
[21:39] <JackTheShark> does ubuntu share user's data ? :)
[21:39] <TJ-> luvenfu: what does this report: "modprobe --resolve-alias pci:v000010ECd0000B723sv*sd*bc*sc*i* "
[21:40] <TJ-> JackTheShark: only when you put it somewhere public
[21:40] <luvenfu> TJ-: lspci -nn
[21:41] <luvenfu> TJ-: ah, you mean the pc?
[21:41] <luvenfu> TJ-: lenovo ideapad 100
[21:41] <TJ-> luvenfu: no, run the command
[21:41] <TJ-> luvenfu: what does this report: "modprobe --resolve-alias pci:v000010ECd0000B723sv*sd*bc*sc*i* "
[21:41] <tlogic> each time i kill one specific application it restarts at it's own. How can i prevent it from restarting?
[21:42] <luvenfu> TJ-: i don't know
[21:42] <TJ-> luvenfu: that command searches the kernel module aliases to identify which kernel module (driver) claims that device ID ([10EC:B723] which was taken from your "lspci -nn" output
[21:43] <TJ-> luvenfu: which driver were you wanting? For some reason I'm assuming you were asking about the WiFi driver
[21:43] <Wayward_Vagabond> Had to reboot to get the connection working again
[21:43] <luvenfu> TJ-: ah, exactly, sorry
[21:43] <Wayward_Vagabond> After I ran those commands, it refused to connection
[21:44] <TJ-> luvenfu: if that "modprobe --resolve-alias ..." doesn't return the name of the kernel module, then the kernel version on that PC is too old
[21:44] <Wayward_Vagabond> Now I suppose I wait to see if it drops out again?
[21:44] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: did the 2nd "modprobe ..." (load) command report any errors?
[21:45] <Wulf> Given a block device (/dev/nbd0), how can I create a single primary partition with swap type on it, occupying the whole device? Err.. without user interaction, from a script.
[21:45] <Wayward_Vagabond> neither had anything to report
[21:45] <oskar> Hi
[21:45] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: those options will only work when you load the module manually; they won't be applied at boot-time.
[21:45] <oskar> Trying to install lubuntu
[21:45] <oskar> It keeps coming on as a live session
[21:45] <oskar> Like the test mode
[21:45] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: good, so the commands worked and did load the module (*nix commands generally are silent if they succeed)
[21:46] <TJ-> oskar: did you leave the installation media connected to the PC?
[21:46] <Tommii> Remind_: So, remember, When you are an old-Timer  tomorrow, on Linux-Day#3.  you can help the newbies stuck on Day#1  :P
[21:46] <mcphail> oskar: did you remove the install disk/usb before rebooting?
[21:46] <oskar> No
[21:46] <oskar> We left it in
[21:46] <Remind_> Tommii: Haha
[21:46] <TJ-> oskar: so the PC will boot from it again
[21:46] <mcphail> oskar: well take it out and retry
[21:46] <Wayward_Vagabond> Any idea why it wouldn't connect at all after the modprobes?
[21:47] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: no; you'd need to check both kern.log and syslog for clues on that
[21:47] <oskar> So install it, then take it out before rebooting?
[21:47] <TJ-> oskar: the installer does prompt to remove the installation media before rebooting
[21:47] <mcphail> oskar: install, shut down, remove drive, reboot
[21:47] <luvenfu> TJ-: that's not make sense, it's a 14.04 lts
[21:48] <Wayward_Vagabond> Run the two modprobes again, andd se what appears in those two logfiles after? (then save the results and reboot?)
[21:48] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: don't reboot!
[21:49] <oskar> Thank you very much
[21:49] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: the commands are doing manually what usually happens at boot-time. You're (re)loading the kernel module with non-default options to test whether they help/or not
[21:49] <Wayward_Vagabond> I couldn't get it to reconnect after I did that, and I don't have another machine I can irc from :s
[21:50] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: OK, so then you repeat the process but don't add any 'parms' when you load the module, so "sudo modprobe rtl8192ce" then "nmcli nm wifi on"
[21:50] <Jeeves_Moss> is there a power shell connector for linux?  I'd llike to issue PS commands to a windows box from my Ubuntu server
[21:50] <Wayward_Vagabond> I tried doing the whole thing again, but no arguments for the second modprobe
[21:51] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: that'll be in the same state as after a boot. You might need to poke it into an immediate radio scan with "sudo iwlist wlan scan"
[21:51] <Wayward_Vagabond> Still refused to connect...
[21:51] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: the syslog will likely be the most informative at that point
[21:51] <JackTheShark> Wayward_Vagabond reboot you system
[21:52] <Wayward_Vagabond> The network was displayed, but the connection dropped before it was finalized
[21:52] <TJ-> JackTheShark: This isn't Windows; reboots aren't required
[21:52] <TJ-> Wayward_Vagabond: OK, well syslog is the place to look. Network Manager logs there very verbosely
[21:52] <JackTheShark> haha :S
[21:53] <TJ-> With 16.04+ we can even live-patch the running kernel without needing a reboot
[21:54] <a12345> hello, is there a linux application where I can search all the pdf in the folder for a particular word(s)? I have used pdfgrep in the past but it can be rather clunky at times. Acroread used to have this capability but it is no longer supported.
[21:54] <TJ-> a12345: I think that depends on whether the PDF content is image-only, or text+image
[21:55] <Guy1524> hey guys, how do I install libreoffice 5 on ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[21:55] <oula_> please i want to save an ISO in a USB into my ubuntu server
[21:55] <Wayward_Vagabond> Try the modprobes, and see what happens in syslog when/if it won't reconnect?
[21:55] <a12345> TJ-, The vast majority of the PDF I search are text+image.
[21:57] <eb0t> hey
[21:57] <eb0t> whats the name of the other chat ubunut channel
[21:57] <eb0t> or something
[21:58] <eb0t> ubuntu unlimited maybe
[21:58] <eb0t> cant find it
[21:58] <mcphail> !info recoll | a12345
[21:58] <riqj> hello everyone, my usb is shown as unknown. when I last turned off my computer it was connected (I didnt unmount it before turning off)..could this have damaged the file system? or the hardware?
[21:58] <mcphail> a12345: that might help ^^
[21:58] <Naruni> Hi, can someone help me understand libvirt-bin with apparmor? When i try to create a VM via virt-manager i get an error about being unable to create a profile when attempting to use UEFI instead of default BIOS
[21:58] <k1l_> !ot | eb0t
[21:58] <Naruni> iv'e read the bug reports related to this issue and they are not addressing the particular issue im having
[21:58] <mcphail> a12345: looks as if it has to index your files first, though
[21:59] <eb0t> thanks k1l thats th one offtopic
[21:59] <eb0t> cheers
[21:59] <nname31> hello
[21:59] <TJ-> Naruni: which ubuntu release?
[21:59] <Naruni> TJ-, uh, current i guess... im new to ubuntu
[21:59] <JackTheShark> any information about ubuntu  16.04?
[21:59] <nname31> i want boot live dvd in laptop lenovo g50-30
[22:00] <xangua> ! 16.04 | JackTheShark
[22:00] <Naruni> uname -r Linux orange 4.2.0-25-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 18 12:31:50 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:00] <TJ-> Naruni: there are 3 or 4 current; do "cat /etc/issue"
[22:00] <nname31> i config uefi to lega..
[22:00] <Naruni> 15.10
[22:00] <TJ-> Naruni: what command, and what error are you getting?
[22:01] <TJ-> Naruni: you should be able to capture the entire underlying command from virt-manager's detail dialog when it fails
[22:01] <nname31> but output no bootable devince
[22:01] <_aCe_>  /server us.undernet.org
[22:01] <_aCe_> meh
[22:01] <Naruni> it is attempting to create a new VM in virt-manager using UEFI instead of stock BIOS, error is: Unable to complete install: 'internal error: cannot load AppArmor profile 'libvirt-2f2fc867-f5d1-4302-a8cb-3a1a0ff435ce''
[22:01] <nname31> how can fix boot
[22:01] <Naruni> TJ-, standby let me find it
[22:01] <nname31> ??
[22:02] <sor_> i can't seem to get the track list from any of the ipad songs rhytmbox only list 11 songs and amarok lists with no metadata this is what it looks like ---- http://ibin.co/2UbMHHE1gSjA
[22:02] <Wimsecal> Hello
[22:02] <TJ-> Naruni: I recall having those bakc with 14.04 and there are som related apparmor bugs but not sure which one will be affecting you
[22:02] <Wimsecal> How can i delete a busy file with terminal?
[22:02] <Naruni> TJ-, i think what i need to do is allow apparmor to let libvirt use the UEFI files
[22:02] <Wimsecal> lsof lists many apps
[22:03] <Naruni> not sure wether that definition belongs in
[22:03] <nname31> need help?
[22:03] <haidar> in ubuntu server how can I mount and load doc in side a flash disk please??
[22:03] <Naruni> http://pastebin.com/DnPURQr0
[22:03] <danillo> you mean automatic with fstab ?
[22:03] <Wimsecal> nname31: yes i need help
[22:04] <haidar> in ubuntu server how can I mount and load doc in side a flash disk please??
[22:04] <TJ-> Naruni: I haven't had a problem when using the UEFI images
[22:05] <haidar> in ubuntu server how can I mount and load doc in side a flash disk please??
[22:05] <mcphail> haidar: please stop repeating yourself so often. You have been asked to stop doing this already
[22:05] <Naruni> TJ-, https://www.redhat.com/archives/virt-tools-list/2015-August/msg00064.html <-- that is about as accurate as it gets to describe my issue
[22:05] <Naruni> but nobody posted a solution there :)
[22:06] <user23456789> No one has been having fps lag in Ubuntu when playing Dota2?
[22:07] <TJ-> Naruni: just checked and there are rules for the ovmf UEFI images: "sudo grep -rn ovmf /etc/apparmor.d/*"
[22:07] <xangua> user23456789: perhaps would be better if you tell what your issue is
[22:08] <user23456789> Im having serious lag when playing Dota2, "fps lag"; most of the time the game is lag. I have a good internet connection and a descent video card driver.
[22:08] <user23456789> I have investigated and know one has been able to give a solution that works
[22:08] <k1l_> native or wine?
[22:09] <TJ-> Naruni: I suspect your issue may be another manifestation of bug 1517539
[22:09] <haidar> in ubuntu server how can I mount and load image in side a flash disk please??
[22:09] <Naruni> TJ-, i modified that apparmor file, should i restart apparmor or libvirt?
[22:12] <TJ-> Naruni: I think the process has to be restarted only; apparmor should be monitoring for changes
[22:13] <Bashing-om> haidar: ?? Maybe :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-allow booting/installing an .iso directly from the hard drive.
[22:13] <Naruni> TJ-, thanks for the help, im gonna try a reboot just to see what happens
[22:15] <Naruni> TJ-, that bug you pointed out i'm not sure how to bring that into my install
[22:15] <Naruni> i could either modify the repo temporarily and update just libvirt right?
[22:15] <TJ-> Naruni: the fix is only in 16.04 for now
[22:17] <JackTheShark> what about ycmd -> https://github.com/Valloric/ycmd can't be installed on ubuntu
[22:17] <JackTheShark> compiled *
[22:21] <JackTheShark> ??
[22:22] <Naruni> TJ-, even using that version of libvirt does not solve the issue
[22:22] <Naruni> i've already edited the apparmor profile to allow the use of ovmf files from the edk2.git folder
[22:22] <k1l_> JackTheShark: the howto you linked said it can be build. so i dont know what you are asking
[22:24] <k1l_> JackTheShark: its in the ubuntu repos since 15.10
[22:27] <Naruni> TJ-, heads up i think i got it working, i had to move my ovmf files into /usr/share/ovmf
[22:27] <Naruni> thanks for the help
[22:28] <JackTheShark> but it did't install from the when i clone it & exec the script
[22:28] <Bray90820> What's a good desktop environment for touch screen laptops
[22:28] <Remind_> TJ-: Well, it finished updating. I restarted, and after I log in all I get is my wallpaper lol. But, I can move my mouse around, haha. Theres no menu or anything it seems
[22:29] <xangua> Bray90820: anything as long as the touch part works
[22:29] <JackTheShark> & the version in ubuntu repo did't respond with sublime3 k1l_
[22:29] <Bray90820> xangua: Do you know of one that is optimized for touch tho?
[22:29] <TJ-> Remind_: try a Guest session log-in, and/or a new user profile. It is often an issue with Unity + upgrades the panels go missing
[22:30] <xangua> Bray90820: I imagine KDE, GNOME or Unity
[22:30] <Bray90820> Alright
[22:31] <Remind_> TJ-: Same thing with Guest, only a wallpaper :P
[22:31] <Remind_> TJ-: Runs smooth though! Haha
[22:31] <arimura> Hi... people... someone managed to upgrade from 15:04 to 15:10 0 ?
[22:32] <bekks> arimura: Whats your issue when doing so?
[22:33] <Guy1524> Hey guys, so I am in the middle of transition my mom's mac from osx to ubuntu (specifically elementary OS freya) and she has a massive amount of .pages files.  Some of them (the simpler ones) libreoffice is able to open, but most of them say the file is corrupt.  I am running libreoffice 5.0.4.2
[22:34] <xangua> Guy1524: wrong channel
[22:34] <kostkon> !elementary
[22:34] <Bray90820> Can anyone recommend an onscreen keyboard for a touch based laptop?
[22:34] <TJ-> Remind_: try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to ensure all components are installed
[22:34] <Guy1524> nobody is ever there
[22:35] <xangua> Bray90820: Ubuntu comes with an on-screen keyboard
[22:35] <k1l_> arimura: it worked
[22:35] <Bray90820> xangua: That one isn't very touch friendly
[22:35] <k1l_> Guy1524: well, if support is important dont install an os thats support you dont like
[22:35] <user23456789> no body?
[22:35] <arimura> bekks: the autoupdate send message of erro on read packages
[22:35] <Guy1524> and I am pretty sure libreoffice works the same on ubuntu as it does on elementary
[22:36] <bekks> arimura: autoupdate will not work anymore.
[22:36] <bekks> !eolupgrade | arimura
[22:36] <k1l_> Guy1524: this is ubuntu support only. please see their website if they offer other support resources
[22:36] <eakinc> Florence is an onsceen keyboard that works.
[22:36] <k1l_> arimura: can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt update"?
[22:36] <arimura> k1l_: soo... not worked
[22:38] <PHroGman> how can I change the login screen wallpaper in Ubuntu 14.04 to something else? Tried Ubuntu Tweak but didnt work
[22:39] <k1l_> PHroGman: its the same as the user you choose on login screen
[22:39] <JCT500THz> Why is it that sometimes when I log into Xubuntu 14.04, the volume hotkey doesn't work?
[22:40] <PHroGman> ?
[22:40] <JackTheShark> !xubuntu
[22:40] <k1l_> PHroGman: its the same wallpaper as the user got, that is selected on the login screen
[22:41] <showaz> JCT500THz: mark destroy xubuntu community
[22:42] <PHroGman> My wallpaper on my desktop is one I chose from my pictures folder. That works fine what I was looking to change was the login screen with the dots
[22:43] <k1l_> PHroGman: that is not login screen. that is plymouth
[22:43] <klf> How can I remove the menu and title bars from my extended screens in Wily?
[22:43] <k1l_> klf: you cant
[22:44] <PHroGman> can i change plumouth?
[22:44] <klf> My currenty monitor consists of 3 monitors: 20" (portrait) + 30" (landscape) + 20" (flipped portrait)
[22:44] <k1l_> PHroGman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth  this
[22:44] <k1l_> PHroGman: you need a theme for that
[22:44] <matin> hallo
[22:44] <klf> s/monitor/& setup/
[22:45] <matin> Sorry, ich suche ein chatgroupp mit java genies?:)
[22:46] <k1l_> PHroGman: " apt search plymouth-theme"
[22:47] <matin> kann mir bitte jemand sagen wo ich ein java room finde??
[22:47] <OerHeks> matin, try ##java
[22:47] <k1l_> !alis | matin
[22:47] <k1l_> PHroGman: or see this answer http://askubuntu.com/a/337699/31260
[22:49] <PHroGman> ok Tks
[22:49] <Guest23934> Hey all, I'm looking for some help with a freeze-->crash during the install of 14.04.03 and 15.10
[22:49] <Guest23934> Is this the place to ask?
[22:50] <showaz> Guest23934: 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10
[22:50] <Guest23934> Should I ask for troubleshooting help here, or is there a different chat I should join?
[22:51] <klf> Looks like I am going to have to find an article/tutorial on how to remove Unity completely if I can't figure out a  way to remove  the menu and title bars from my extended screens.
[22:51] <matin> es gibt kein ##java
[22:52] <k1l_> Guest23934: just ask a specific question
[22:52] <xangua> klf: you just have to uninstall the global menu package
[22:52] <xangua> Don't know what package is tho
[22:52] <k1l_> matin: note the double ## "/join ##java"
[22:53] <Guest23934> Ok, during the install process for both 14.04.03 and 15.10 my laptop would completely freeze for ~45 seconds then shut down and restart
[22:53] <vivace> lala
[22:53] <Guest23934> It happened at random times, and once I was finally able to finish the install process the same crash would happen during normal use as well
[22:53] <matin> danke jetzt habe ich
[22:53] <Guest23934> I have some kern.log logs and syslog lines for one of the crashes
[22:53] <OerHeks> klf: as k1l_ answered, not possible as it is hard coded, if you want regular gnome3 ..
[22:54] <OerHeks> !gnome3
[22:54] <mharvey> klf:unity tweak tool allows for some changes to panel and launcher
[22:54] <mharvey> klf is it the panel at the top of all screens you dont like?
[22:54] <Guest23934> can anyone recommend me a place where I can look for help with this?
[22:55] <k1l_> Guest23934: put the logs of those crashes into a pastebin and link them here
[22:55] <OerHeks> Guest23934, random crashes, perform a memtest86 run from the liveiso
[22:55] <Guest23934> syslog
[22:55] <Guest23934> http://pastebin.com/zvmxakPH
[22:55] <Guest23934> for one crash
[22:56] <Guest23934> kern.log:
[22:56] <Guest23934> http://pastebin.com/v4yD7h1y
[22:56] <Guest23934> for a couple dozen crashes
[22:56] <reda> ciao
[22:56] <reda> hello!!!
[22:56] <theorst> hi
[22:57] <klf> mharvey I only wish for them to show on my main monitor.  There is a "Scale for menu and title bars" option under "System settings"-> ScreenDisplay"
[22:57] <Guest23934> http://askubuntu.com/questions/724079/ubuntu-15-10-freeze
[22:57] <Guest23934> link to my askubuntu post
[22:57] <klf> mharvey, if there is a tweak which allows me to scale it down to "0" (zero) then it should achieve it.
[22:58] <Guest23934> I've not been able to find anyone else with the crash problem during the install, and all other reports of similar crashes have been able to pinpoint a cause
[22:58] <penne12> Hey - Im trying to ssh into my server, but I timeout when I do
[22:58] <penne12> I tried `iptables -F`
[22:58] <Guest23934> I have found no pattern to the crashes, and they happen before I can even login, or after 45 min of using the OS
[22:58] <pkircher> probably ssh server isnt started
[22:58] <penne12> it's started
[22:59] <Wulf> penne12: are you logged in via console?
[22:59] <pkircher> what does the journal say ?
[22:59] <penne12> via digitalocean's access thing
[22:59] <pkircher> wulf you can be logged in .. in the console and via ssh at the same time
[22:59] <showaz> Guest23934: optimus nvidia :D
[22:59] <penne12> pkircher no idea, how can I check?
[22:59] <pkircher> 15.10 ?
[23:00] <Guest23934> OerHeks my windows 10 install on the same machine has no problems at all
[23:00] <pkircher> journalctl -u sshd i guess
[23:00] <Guest23934> So friends have told me it couldn't be a memory problem
[23:00] <Wulf> pkircher: "ssh server not started" would not result in timeout.
[23:00] <Wulf> penne12: it's a networking issue. Can you ping your server?
[23:00] <penne12> yes
[23:00] <penne12> but...
[23:00] <Wulf> penne12: what does "iptables -L -n -v -x" print?
[23:00] <Guest23934> showaz what do you mean?
[23:01] <penne12> it cant ping me
[23:01] <penne12> When I ping my ip address, it shows "PING XX.XXX.XX.XX (xx.xx.xx.xx) 56(84) bytes of data."
[23:01] <Wulf> penne12: can you access the internet from the server? e.g. apt-get install something
[23:01] <penne12> yeah
[23:01] <Remind_> Okay so right off the bat Ubuntu 15's giving issues just trying to run the live version. Nouveau spams a ton of errors, finally it says Not all CPUs entered broadcast exception handler, shutting down cpus with NMI, kernel offset: disabled, drama_kms_helper: panic occurred, switching back to text console, then it reboots.
[23:01] <Wulf> penne12: install and run tcpdump.
[23:02] <Wulf> penne12: see what happens to your ssh packets
[23:02] <penne12> ok
[23:02] <showaz> Guest23934: tell that to nvidia, secure boot (UEFI) dkms fail verefy
[23:03] <showaz> Guest23934: nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
[23:03] <penne12> Ok
[23:03] <Guest23934> showaz: make a bug report to nvidia with that line?
[23:03] <penne12> Im running it
[23:04] <bqllpd> question. the xfce power manager has a huge bug in 14.04 in which it ignores the settings. does 15.04 have this problem and has the problem been solved for 16.04 release i n april?
[23:04] <drale2k> when i execute a command via an SSH connection which takes some time to run, i see it working while i am in that ssh session. Can i "jump" back into that progress view after i reconnect later again via SSH?
[23:05] <Wulf> drale2k: screen
[23:05] <penne12> showaz, im not seeing anything
[23:05] <drale2k> Wulf thanks
[23:06] <penne12> well, I see the entire tcp dump
[23:06] <Guest23934> would the nvidia graphics card be causing crashes during install?
[23:06] <Wulf> penne12: that means?
[23:07] <penne12> I dont see my ip or anything - I see some .ssh packets, though
[23:07] <Wulf> penne12: filter it.  tcpdump -n -i eth0 port 22
[23:07] <Wulf> penne12: assuming the interface is called eth0
[23:07] <Wulf> penne12: then try to connect to the server
[23:08] <Wulf> penne12: if you don't know how to read it, paste the tcpdump output
[23:08] <showaz> Guest23934: wifi too problem loading (non-free firmware)
[23:08] <Guest23934> showaz: yeah, a problem with the wifi card too it looks like
[23:09] <penne12> I dont think thats the interface
[23:09] <showaz> Guest23934: non-free ubuntu repository.
[23:09] <Guest23934> showaz: what do you mean? I need diferent firmware for the wifi card?
[23:09] <penne12> actually, showaz, I think it just started showing some stuff, but not from my ip
[23:10] <penne12> then again, it is on a digitalocean hypervisor
[23:10] <penne12> but its not showing up when I ssh
[23:10] <showaz> penne12: digitalocean!=hypervisor DO=kvm-qemu.
[23:10] <Guest23934> k1l_: did you give it a look?
[23:10] <penne12> oh
[23:11] <penne12> Just for fun, I pinged my ip address (from the server) - it isn't showing anything
[23:12] <JCT500THz> How do I get SMPlayer to play SPCs?
[23:13] <JCT500THz> bazhang was the last one to help me with a problem like this, when I orignally had a problem compiling an app called playspc-gtk.
[23:13] <showaz> penne12: digitalocean not support new kernel, only stack modded image-kernel.
[23:13] <penne12> ?
[23:13] <JCT500THz> He then introduced me to SMPlayer which had the same support, but I can't figure anything out.
[23:13] <bekks> showaz: Thats totally expected, when running virtual private servers.
[23:14] <MiniFridge> Hello, I am trying to learn how to use Ubuntu Server and I had a question:  shouldn't I change root's password? I noticed that when I ran Ubuntu desktop, root came with a default password and I could reset my password through it. Doesn't that mean anyone who accesses my server can reset my password and compromise it?
[23:14] <bekks> !root | MiniFridge
[23:15] <MiniFridge> bekks, but how come I could use the default root password last time to reset my user password?
[23:15] <bekks> MiniFridge: There is no default root password.
[23:15] <maliD> The matrix? Deep cut, ubottu!
[23:15] <bekks> MiniFridge: There is no root password, by default.
[23:15] <MiniFridge> strange. Maybe I'm thinking of something else.
[23:16] <penne12> hmmm  - I recently att uverse recently redid our internet connection - and now we have a new ip
[23:16] <penne12> might be why I cant ping the old one :P
[23:17] <MiniFridge> Is it necessary to block access to recovery mode?
[23:17] <bekks> MiniFridge: No?
[23:17] <MiniFridge> I must have been thinking about that
[23:17] <MiniFridge> But, you can reset your password in recovery mode
[23:17] <bekks> MiniFridge: Yes.
[23:18] <MiniFridge> so, couldn't anyone who has access to the system change my password and compromise it?
[23:18] <bekks> MiniFridge: But you need access to the console (which your hoster has, always)
[23:18] <OerHeks> MiniFridge, if you want to be sure, use encrypted home/full disc
[23:18] <MiniFridge> my hoster?
[23:18] <MiniFridge> what's that?
[23:18] <penne12> but I cant ping my new ip, showaz
[23:18] <OerHeks> live iso can do the same as recovery
[23:18] <bekks> MiniFridge: Digitalocean.
[23:18] <MiniFridge> oh, hahahaha. I read it as "hah-ster"
[23:19] <MiniFridge> my bad
[23:19] <Ouch> Right
[23:19] <pkircher> question is what are you trying to “protect” ..
[23:19] <MiniFridge> bekks, so no one can get in via SSH that way?
[23:20] <bekks> MiniFridge: No.
[23:20] <pkircher> noone is wrong .. > keyauth / 2 factor helps with security
[23:20] <MiniFridge> Alright. So, I don't really have to worry about it?
[23:20] <pkircher> but .. noone isnt true
[23:20] <Ouch> carry on
[23:20] <bekks> pkircher: Recovery mode does not start ssh by default.
[23:20] <showaz> pkircher: 2 factor not safe, its optional auth
[23:21] <MiniFridge> I doubt my host is going to try to hack my website.
[23:21] <pkircher> 2 factor is just an additional part .. > protects somewhat against bruteforce
[23:21] <bekks> MiniFridge: They dont need to hack it, they have full access.
[23:21] <pkircher> security come in layers .. and if you got pysical access .. the only thing that somewhat helps is full disk encr.
[23:21] <showaz> pkircher: http://www.sshguard.net/
[23:22] <pkircher> fail2ban does a ok job as well
[23:22] <showaz> fail2ban not C
[23:22] <MiniFridge> alright. so, unless I reconfigure OpenSSH to allow access to recovery mode, there is not really a way for anyone to get into it besides physical access?
[23:22] <bekks> MiniFridge: You would have to reconfigure recovery mode, not ssh. :)
[23:22] <matin> ##java
[23:22] <pkircher> minifridge .. rootkits / viruses
[23:22] <pkircher> and so on
[23:22] <MiniFridge> pkircher, of course.
[23:22] <pkircher> .. there are plenty vectors
[23:22] <matin> #java
[23:23] <pkircher> noone can actualy say “its safe"
[23:23] <pkircher> but you gotta layer your security like an onion
[23:23] <matin> join ##java
[23:23] <MiniFridge> right, Fail2Ban, passwordless login, etc
[23:23] <javascripter> this is a place for people who have barely any konwledge of any linex to ask for help? So, my windows computer blew up, I heard I could use ubuntu to copy files from it (because I was an idiot and didn't back them up), and so I started using this tutorial (http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindowsfstab) to try and fix it. It wouldn't umount, so after some google I threw a -l in there to get that command to work. Now I
[23:23] <javascripter> am having problems with "sudo mount -a" in that it gives the error "mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or home/ubuntu/Desktop/windows busy".
[23:23] <matin> alis
[23:23] <matin> join alis
[23:23] <pkircher> if you got a fixed ip .. you can narrow it down to that as well
[23:23] <matin> join #alis
[23:24] <pkircher> close all ports and open just what you need
[23:24] <matin> i lost java chat room
[23:24] <bekks> !alis > matin
[23:24] <MiniFridge> matin, use /join #channel
[23:24] <k1l_> matin: come on. its not that hard. click on the ##java chatroomname and choose join
[23:24] <showaz> matin: oracle deprecated company
[23:25] <matin> sorry i was quit and i just came again
[23:25] <matin> i lost it all
[23:25] <k1l_> matin: take a pen and a paper and write "/join ##java" down if you cant remember it
[23:26] <matin> join ##java
[23:26] <Guest23934> showaz, any other tips? How should I go about fixing the crash?
[23:26] <matin> it doesnt work
[23:26] <bekks> matin: Works fine, you forgot the /
[23:26] <matin> okay wait
[23:26] <k1l_> matin: you are no using the correct command. see the exact command i named you
[23:27] <showaz> Guest23934: you are using an incompatible driver binary, why not use a non-free driver from ubuntu repo?
[23:27] <Guest23934> showaz: I'm not sure what that means.  But you are saying I should be switching drivers?
[23:28] <matin> k1l_, i swear i write the same
[23:28] <matin> like this (/join ##java) nothing gonna happen
[23:28] <pkircher> just one #
[23:28] <bekks> matin: omit the ()
[23:28] <MiniFridge> alright. Thank you for the help!
[23:28] <k1l_> matin: use your mouse, click on ##java and choose right click and choose join channel
[23:28] <Guest23934> showaz: I should use a different driver from the ubuntu repo?
[23:28] <Tommii> hey guys, how are these 2 commands different?     foo|pastebin      foo 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:29] <matin> * Cannot join #java (Channel is invite only).
[23:29] <k1l_> matin: doulbe ##
[23:29] <matin> he said one #
[23:29] <matin> when i write double nothing happen
[23:29] <OerHeks> no, i said ##java.
[23:30] <k1l_> matin: look in the sidebar if you are already in that channel
[23:30] <OerHeks> and invite only, means you need to register your nickame with #freenode
[23:30] <showaz> Tommii: "2>&1"  piple stderr outbuffer #1 to nc
[23:30] <matin> i know there is no java channel
[23:31] <bekks> matin: Which is not true.
[23:31] <penne12> showaz, do you have any suggestions?
[23:31] <showaz> Tommii: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[23:32] <matin> * ##java :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[23:32] <merpnderp> I haven't remoted into a linux box and needed a GUI in forever. Is VNC still the best way to do that?
[23:32] <squinty> matin,  if you are using hexchat or xchat, look in the drop down menu for Server -> Join a Channel  or Server -> List Channels
[23:32] <k1l_> !register | matin
[23:32] <k1l_> matin: for more issues with freenode better ask in #freenode
[23:33] <matin> okay
[23:34] <matin> join ##java
[23:34] <bekks> matin: you missed the / again.
[23:34] <Guest23934> showaz: Which driver do I need to replace?
[23:34] <k1l_> matin: i think we played that game now long enough. please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. try the irc commands in the server window
[23:34] <matin> join alis
[23:36] <merpnderp> ah-hah, nomachine. Had forgotten all about it.
[23:41] <Guest23934> showaz: any other advice?
[23:42] <faxn> My touchpad and touchscreen stop working after i re-open my laptop lid. Im having to remove i2c_designware_platform and readd it to get it working again. I have a button on my laptop that is supposed to enable and disable the touchpad and it isnt working. I'd like to either fix a script to auto remove and readd the module after repoen the lid or map my key to it. does anyone have any ideas or can maybe help?
[23:44] <Tommii> showaz: but both those FOO commands give the same results , yes?
[23:47] <happyfr0gg> I upgraded my software using the default Software Updater in Ubuntu 14.04 and 1 piece of software fails to install. How do I fix?
[23:47] <showaz> Tommii: FOO by default output, not used selectable (stderr|stdout).
[23:47] <leandro> ola
[23:47] <faxn> what fails to install?
[23:47] <leandro> tem brasileiro aqui
[23:48] <k1l_> !br | leandro
[23:48] <xangua> happyfr0gg: can you please give more details, what did you update, what package failed to update, what message/terminal output did you get?
[23:48] <leandro> ok minha primeira vez,,,,
[23:48] <TJ-> faxn: see "man 8 pm-suspend"
[23:49] <Tommii> showaz: okay, so it includes 'stderr'. got it.  so then what is the diff between:      |pastebin         |nc termbin.com 9999
[23:49] <happyfr0gg> xangua, may I open up a pm with you?
[23:49] <xangua> ! Pm
[23:49] <k1l_> Guest23934: see this answer: http://askubuntu.com/a/608156/31260  you got that error in your kern.log
[23:49] <k1l_> Guest23934: looks like a hardware issue
[23:50] <Guest23934> thanks k1l_
[23:51] <Jeeves_Moss> I just installed the .run package from NVIDIA, and I'm getting rainbow colours all over my screen, and I can't click anything, how do I fix this?
[23:51] <happyfr0gg> I used Software Updater in Ubuntu Trusty Tahr to update all of my software. They all but 1 updated successfully. ClipGrab failed to install.
[23:51] <showaz> happyfr0gg: https://www.aptly.info/ support snapshot installed .deb package and revert to an earlier version.
[23:51] <Guest23934> k1l_: do you know what caused the hardware error? Or how I could get through the install process without crashing?
[23:52] <k1l_> Guest23934: i thought it was already installed?
[23:52] <k1l_> Guest23934: i would start by a memcheck
[23:53] <faxn> I dont have it installed. Is there another way to fix it? @TJ
[23:53] <happyfr0gg> Software Updater says: "The installation or removal of a software package failed."
[23:54] <Guest23934> kil_: uninstalled it again after 3 friends told me to give up, and I'm back. memcheck checks for hardware faults right?
[23:54] <TJ-> faxn: pm-suspend is part of pm-utils (which can execute scripts to unload/reload modules on suspend/resume)
[23:54] <Guest23934> kil_: I"m under the impression this is a incompatibility because my windows works completely fine
[23:55] <TJ-> !info mcelog | Guest23934
[23:55] <faxn> Oh ok - i found pm-utils, thanks let me try this out for a few moments
[23:55] <TJ-> Guest23934: install that package and let it capture and report on what the root cause of the MCE is
[23:55] <k1l_> Guest23934: memcheck checks the ram for issues.
[23:56] <Guest23934> kil_: If the ram had issues wouldn't I experience some problems on my windows OS?
[23:56] <Guest23934> Ok, i'll try to reinstall
[23:56] <k1l_> Guest23934: maybe windows is ok with such errors or can handle that errors better due to better drivers for windows.
[23:56] <Guest23934> ah
[23:57] <Guest23934> kil_: I also have a 64 bit processor, x86 checker would be for 32 bit machines right?
[23:57] <blazuka303> Hey guys
[23:57] <Guest23934> never mind, says its for amd64
[23:57] <TJ-> Guest23934: mcelog works for 64-bit as well as 32-bit
[23:58] <TJ-> Guest23934: you've got an Intel CPU there, not AMD I think, so it should cover it
[23:58] <blazuka303> what command should i introduce to fat32 format a usb using xubuntu
[23:58] <Guest23934> right
[23:58] <Wayward_Vagabond> Huh, connection still hasn't dropped.
[23:58] <mmm_> hi
[23:58] <Guest23934> any tips for preventing that crash during install? I guess we don't know the error yet
[23:58] <Wayward_Vagabond> Maybe it was just a fluke beofre?
[23:58] <Guest23934> but can I disable certain parts of my machine that could be messing with it?