| ejay | valorie: without any console logs? waste of time | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| MrNoob | valorie: the problem was that apparently command and terminal are two different things | 01:33 |
| MrNoob | i did your line in terminal, and through a password, noth much happened something did but idk, how do i know it updated ? | 01:34 |
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| ifohancroft | Hello everyone! What is the scheduled release date for Kubuntu 16.04? | 02:04 |
| goddard | Hey guys I made a poll for fun | 02:35 |
| goddard | http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/ktdsfm/best-linux-de/ | 02:35 |
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| === struk|desk|away is now known as struk|desk | ||
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| cjwelborn | goddard: "You have found your way to an invalid poll link." | 04:48 |
| goddard | cjwelborn: http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/ktdsfm/best-linux-de/view | 04:51 |
| valorie | !releases > ifohancroft: | 05:27 |
| ifohancroft | !releases | 05:28 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 05:28 |
| ifohancroft | Thank you, valorie! | 05:28 |
| valorie | I guess I needed a | instead of > | 05:28 |
| valorie | :-) | 05:28 |
| ifohancroft | No idea about that. We can always find out | 05:28 |
| ifohancroft | !releases | valorie | 05:29 |
| ubottu | valorie: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 05:29 |
| ifohancroft | yeah, you were right | 05:29 |
| valorie | in any case, sometime in April | 05:29 |
| valorie | I've already got it on my travel laptop | 05:29 |
| valorie | so far, so good | 05:29 |
| ifohancroft | and btw sry, I forgot to mentioned that I already know the release date for Ubuntu 16.04 but I wasn't sure if Kubuntu 16.04 will be available for download on the very same day | 05:30 |
| ifohancroft | oh nice | 05:30 |
| valorie | ifohancroft: always all the flavors are released at the same time | 05:37 |
| ifohancroft | oh, that's awesome | 05:37 |
| valorie | we're part of Ubuntu just as we have been since day one of Kubuntu | 05:38 |
| arts | Hey, Guys would you say dropbox is safe? RE: Privacy | 05:46 |
| valorie | I guess it depends | 05:47 |
| valorie | for what I use it for, it's plenty safe | 05:47 |
| arts | personal data? | 05:51 |
| valorie | they never asked me for any | 05:52 |
| valorie | I suppose they know how much I use it, which isn't much | 05:52 |
| valorie | it's an easy way to share photos | 05:52 |
| valorie | and share some text files between computers | 05:52 |
| arts | thanks valorie | 05:54 |
| valorie | btw arts, easiest way to install: http://www.nixternal.com/kde-and-dropbox/ | 05:55 |
| valorie | imo | 05:56 |
| arts | how do I connect a samba shared printer on windows 7 that is password protected in kubuntu | 06:14 |
| valorie | !samba | 06:18 |
| ubottu | Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba.html | 06:18 |
| valorie | maybe your answer is in one of those docs, arts | 06:19 |
| Fritigern | KFOntview seems to be broken on my machine. Is this a known problem? What happens is that the window appears to have no font preview in it, save for a smidge on the right hand side of the window. Is there something that I can do to fix this on my machine? | 06:35 |
| Fritigern | Also, the font thumbnailer in Dolphin does not seem to want to work for me, the thumbnails, although all of different dimensions. are all black and I have a feeling that one thing is related to the other | 06:36 |
| Fritigern | (Kubuntu 15.10, in case someone would like to know) | 06:36 |
| valorie | !info kfontview | 06:41 |
| ubottu | Package kfontview does not exist in wily | 06:41 |
| valorie | hmmm | 06:41 |
| valorie | so it must be part of something else | 06:41 |
| solvarr | what is the latest konqueror version? | 06:58 |
| valorie | !info konqueror | 06:58 |
| ubottu | konqueror (source: kde-baseapps): advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 1260 kB, installed size 3703 kB | 06:58 |
| valorie | I don't think it's had a release for awhile though | 06:58 |
| valorie | beyond the port to kf5 | 06:59 |
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| solvarr | i feel like I just made a huge mistake by compiling it from sourcecode | 07:00 |
| solvarr | now my konqueror is at 4.14.15 | 07:00 |
| Fritigern | And I am back after I stupidly closed my IRC client. | 07:04 |
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| valorie | Installed: 4:15.08.3-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1 | 07:04 |
| valorie | Fritigern: I was going to test the font viewer, but I don't know what fonts to open | 07:04 |
| valorie | where are they stored? | 07:04 |
| Fritigern | valorie: Is that in relation to my question about the fonts stuffs? | 07:04 |
| solvarr | !kfind | 07:05 |
| Fritigern | Ah, valorie, the fonts arte just any fonts that are on the system, installed or not. | 07:05 |
| valorie | hmmm, I didn't see any in it | 07:06 |
| valorie | Fritigern: yes, i waited until you came back | 07:06 |
| valorie | solvarr: Installed: 4:15.08.3-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1 is what I have | 07:07 |
| valorie | but as I said, it's not a very active project | 07:07 |
| solvarr | i feel like i just downgraded it | 07:07 |
| valorie | no, no | 07:08 |
| valorie | the versions get bumped | 07:08 |
| valorie | but you have the latest if you built from git | 07:08 |
| solvarr | what is the latest dolphin version then? | 07:08 |
| Fritigern | valorie: You may have some fonts in ~/.fonts. Or try the systemwide installed ones in /usr/share/fonts but the problem is not the fonts, because they work and they are fine. It's the kfontviewer as well as dolphin's font thumbnailer that won't work for me. | 07:10 |
| valorie | right, I just wanted to test | 07:12 |
| valorie | hmmm, I'm seeing the opentype font I choose by random | 07:14 |
| Fritigern | valorie: Here's a screenshot of what I see: http://imgur.com/T7VGdAY | 07:14 |
| solvarr | Is it normal that plasmashell is taking up 200% of my cpu? | 07:15 |
| solvarr | Also what is baloo file extractor for? | 07:15 |
| Fritigern | baloo is a file indexer for desktop search | 07:16 |
| Fritigern | the extractor indexes the contents of files | 07:16 |
| valorie | mine: http://imgur.com/PGLosHo | 07:17 |
| valorie | solvarr: does control+space give you the same CPU percentage? | 07:17 |
| solvarr | control+space does nothing lol | 07:18 |
| solvarr | all these happened after I built kde-baseapps from git | 07:18 |
| valorie | oops, control + escape | 07:19 |
| valorie | sheesh | 07:19 |
| valorie | brain and fingers need to be connected | 07:19 |
| solvarr | 74% | 07:20 |
| solvarr | still quite a lot | 07:20 |
| valorie | once baloo finishes indexing, it takes nearly nothing | 07:20 |
| valorie | plasmashell: 1% for me | 07:20 |
| * Fritigern needs to go afk, will be back in about an hour or so, will read backlog in case anyone comes up with why kfontviewer would misbehave for me | 07:21 | |
| solvarr | but why does baloo suddenly starts working? | 07:21 |
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| solvarr | is it because i built kde-baseapps? | 07:21 |
| valorie | of that, I'm unsure | 07:21 |
| valorie | solvarr: I would ask in #plasma | 07:21 |
| solvarr | ok | 07:21 |
| solvarr | thanks | 07:22 |
| solvarr | also i can't search files anymore... | 07:22 |
| solvarr | thought it's worth mentioning | 07:22 |
| valorie | solvarr: search where? | 07:34 |
| valorie | baloo doesn't feed all searches | 07:35 |
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| sgo11 | hi, I am running kubuntu 14.04 (actually lubuntu installs kubuntu-desktop package). Text input fields (box) are gray color. Actually, I can not determine if a field is editable or not. This happens to many apps such libreoffice. How can I solve such problem? thanks. | 08:07 |
| sgo11 | ps: running kde. (otherwise, i won't ask here.) | 08:08 |
| sgo11 | This is a libreoffice screen capture: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=98184 | 08:10 |
| sgo11 | I am using hexchat for IRC client. hexchat does NOT have this problem. | 08:11 |
| sgo11 | Actually, I can not determine if that is a input field. you can see this from the screen capture. Without trying to click the mouse button in the gray field, I won't know there is a input field. | 08:13 |
| acher88 | sgoll: just in libreoffice? not in any other kde based application? | 08:19 |
| valorie | sgo11: there is a plasma-gtk thing you probably need to set, in systemsettings I think | 08:36 |
| valorie | hmm, not finding it immediately | 08:36 |
| sgo11 | valorie, I don't find it anywhere. I am running 14.04. I can only find GTK option. | 08:37 |
| sgo11 | valorie, and it sets to oxygen-gtk theme. | 08:37 |
| valorie | ok, that's what I was thinking of | 08:37 |
| valorie | !info plasma-desktop vivid | 08:38 |
| ubottu | plasma-desktop (source: plasma-desktop): Tools and widgets for the desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:5.2.2-0ubuntu4 (vivid), package size 1548 kB, installed size 7819 kB | 08:38 |
| sgo11 | acher88, sorry about the late reply. my hexchat does not remind me a new message except somebody mentions my name. it happens in many apps, but not all. I can not determine if the problematic apps are gtk or not. at least hexchat is OK. I don't think hexchat is using qt. | 08:38 |
| acher88 | 2 ways of theming libreoffice | 08:38 |
| valorie | you might try installing that, sgo11 | 08:38 |
| sgo11 | valorie, thanks a lot. am I not running plasma-desktop? I thought kde was using plasma-desktop by default. | 08:39 |
| acher88 | package libreoffice-kde which provides a native VCL pluging to render LO in qt/kde theme | 08:39 |
| valorie | it doesn't hurt to try | 08:39 |
| sgo11 | acher88, that will only solve my libreoffice problem. but many apps got that issue. | 08:39 |
| acher88 | or libreoffice-gtk package which uses GTK to do the same, and then use oxygen gtk theme | 08:40 |
| sgo11 | valorie, I just tried to install it, it shows me I have that package already. | 08:40 |
| sgo11 | valorie, does it mean I am running plasma-desktop already? | 08:40 |
| valorie | yes | 08:40 |
| sgo11 | valorie, how to determine if I am running plasma-desktop or not? | 08:41 |
| acher88 | is it other kde apps affected? | 08:41 |
| valorie | if you have it, you are running it | 08:41 |
| acher88 | or gtk ones using the oxygen-gtk theme? | 08:41 |
| valorie | or you can press control + escape and see what processes are running | 08:41 |
| sgo11 | acher88, I tried this command "sudo apt-get install libreoffice-kde". it told me I had this package already. | 08:42 |
| acher88 | so looks like libreoffice is using their kde VCL then | 08:42 |
| acher88 | and other native kde apps show the same blank/invisible input fields? | 08:43 |
| sgo11 | I just switched to kde one day ago. I remembered this problem happened in other apps. but I can't recall what they are now. let me try. | 08:43 |
| sgo11 | acher88, let me try some other apps... | 08:44 |
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| acher88 | gotta go in a sec, but if you can say whether it happens in pure kde/qt apps, then that will narrow the problem down | 08:45 |
| acher88 | libreoffice is NOT native kde and uses a plugin to render it's interface in kde/qt | 08:46 |
| Fritigern | valorie: Do you have any suggestions as for as my issues go? (kfontview and font thumbs not playing nice) | 08:46 |
| valorie | I don't, since it's working for me | 08:47 |
| sgo11 | acher88, ok. thanks. I am trying some apps now. so far, I haven't found the same problem. but I remembered it happened in other apps yesterday. I just switched to kde yesterday. | 08:47 |
| Fritigern | Well poop. I had hoped you had some suggestions that I could try. | 08:47 |
| valorie | Fritigern: if it's any comfort, I've heard a few others report the same thing | 08:50 |
| valorie | but it seems to be really spotty | 08:50 |
| Fritigern | At least I know I am not the only one :-) | 08:50 |
| valorie | I suggest searching bugs.kde.org and chiming in | 08:50 |
| valorie | or filing a new bug if you don't find one | 08:51 |
| Fritigern | valorie: I never though about googling for the issue. I just did and found that the bug has been reported at least a few times. It appears to happen in many different distros, and not only debian-based ones. | 08:54 |
| valorie | your information will be valuable | 08:54 |
| Fritigern | Looking through the bug reports, I don;lt think I can add anything that has not already been reported. | 08:56 |
| valorie | details of your own system? | 08:57 |
| sgo11 | sorry, so far I can only find this problem in libreoffice. I remembered I saw it in other apps yesterday. but I can not find what I tried. | 08:59 |
| valorie | sgo11: details are important | 08:59 |
| valorie | take notes next time | 09:00 |
| sgo11 | valorie, ok. thanks. what about my current libreoffice problem? just leave with it? | 09:00 |
| valorie | I'm not sure | 09:00 |
| valorie | but then I'm not a fount of wisdom or experience | 09:00 |
| Fritigern | valorie: According to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336089 people initially thought it was related to NVidia's propriatry drivers, but it also happened with Nouveau drivers. Then someone reported the same issue, only they had an AMD card. And then people started arguing, I kid you not. | 09:04 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 336089 in kcm_fontinst "Font preview - rendering problem" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 09:04 |
| sgo11 | valorie, ok. there is another font problem. the fonts look weird in some apps. for example, with alt+f2, the run dialog displays and fonts displays very weird. in the beginning, there are even missing letters. I tried to enable anti-aliasing. after that, missing letters problem does not happen again. I am not sure if that does something or not. because this issue happens randomly. fonts still look weird in alt+f2 and letters overlaps with each other now. | 09:04 |
| valorie | did you say you were running 14.04, sgo11? | 09:04 |
| valorie | I've not seen stuff like this for a very long time | 09:05 |
| sgo11 | valorie, yeah, I am running 14.04 LTS. | 09:05 |
| acher88 | can't test on 14.04 just this sec, but in debian jessie, which 14.04 is derived from, I get: http://i.imgur.com/Gfvt3Sj.png | 09:07 |
| sgo11 | acher88, ok. yours look fine. :) | 09:09 |
| acher88 | one less than ideal option would be to remove libreoffice-kde package and install libreoffice-gtk instead | 09:09 |
| acher88 | that would make libreoffice use whatever gtk theme you have set | 09:09 |
| acher88 | but native kde libreoffice plugin SHOULD work really | 09:10 |
| acher88 | or if you have both the gtk and kde plugins installed you can set the environment variable 'SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtk' to make libreoffice use gtk instead | 09:12 |
| sgo11 | this is what alt+f2 fonts look like now: http://i.imgur.com/bbj2UtC.png?1 letters overlap with each other. Before enabling anti-aliasing, I even meet missing letters problem. | 09:12 |
| acher88 | sadly I don't have a physical machine running 14.04 any more to test | 09:13 |
| Fritigern | valorie: I think I just need to be a bit patient. At the end of that bug report, people started flinging code around with the end result being that the bug recieved a "fixed" status for plasma 5.5.4 | 09:13 |
| acher88 | sgoll: really gotta go. hope you work something out | 09:14 |
| sgo11 | acher88, ok. thanks a lot for your help. | 09:17 |
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| solvarr | how long does baloo file extractor usually work? | 09:37 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 10:47 |
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| cesdo | Hi all | 12:09 |
| lordievader | o/ | 12:09 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 12:17 |
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| === kubuntu is now known as Guest16522 | ||
| Guest16522 | hello to all! I have a problem to start kubuntu after install.. | 12:40 |
| Guest16522 | Can anyone help me? | 12:40 |
| mflow | Does anyone know why Dolphin doesn't automatically show previews for images for all subdirections ? | 12:40 |
| hazamonzo | Guest16522: I'd start by choosing a real nick and then telling us what problem you are actually having :) | 12:41 |
| mflow | I have kdegraphics-thumbnailers package installed | 12:41 |
| === Guest16522 is now known as tetsuo2501 | ||
| tetsuo2501 | ok, done :) | 12:41 |
| hazamonzo | Great! Whats happening during boot? | 12:41 |
| tetsuo2501 | the computer shows grub command line :( | 12:42 |
| tetsuo2501 | I tried 2 times to install kubuntu.. | 12:42 |
| tetsuo2501 | my system have windows 10 installed, fast boot disabled | 12:42 |
| mflow | tetsuo2501: did you try live cd first? | 12:42 |
| mflow | tetsuo2501: it worked? | 12:42 |
| tetsuo2501 | uefi enables, secury boot disabled | 12:42 |
| tetsuo2501 | I'm on live kbuntu | 12:43 |
| hateball | tetsuo2501: what version of Kubuntu, and what graphics chipset? | 12:44 |
| tetsuo2501 | Seems that grub give me some error, but it is too fast and I can read what it says... :( | 12:44 |
| hateball | oh | 12:44 |
| tetsuo2501 | kubuntu 15.10 | 12:44 |
| tetsuo2501 | On AMD R2 | 12:45 |
| tetsuo2501 | My CPU is E1 | 12:45 |
| hateball | I for some reason read black display, not errors with grub. It's monday. | 12:45 |
| tetsuo2501 | APU.. | 12:45 |
| BluesKaj | mflow, set dolphin to use previrew? | 12:46 |
| tetsuo2501 | could i try to delete ubuntu files and grub from EFI partition? | 12:46 |
| BluesKaj | tetsuo2501, no grub should be installed to the uefi partition agaik | 12:48 |
| mflow | BluesKaj: yes, found the culprit ; In Dolphin's settings -> General -> Behavior I have Remember properties for each folder instead of Use common properties for all folders ; switching to the second option solved the problem | 12:48 |
| BluesKaj | afaik | 12:48 |
| BluesKaj | mflow, right | 12:48 |
| tetsuo2501 | If I press F9 during boot it shows boot options, And there is ubuntu, shim64 and grub.. | 12:49 |
| tetsuo2501 | It shows also windows boot loader... | 12:49 |
| tetsuo2501 | I tried to start system using all these boot options but alway start grub command line.. | 12:50 |
| BluesKaj | tetsuo2501, what does grub show if you choose it | 12:51 |
| tetsuo2501 | shows grub version and avaiable grub commands... | 12:52 |
| tetsuo2501 | like if it can't start ubuntu | 12:53 |
| tetsuo2501 | I'm trying to reinstall grub from command line... if it shows some error I'll report.. | 12:53 |
| EriC^^ | hi | 12:55 |
| EriC^^ | what's up? | 12:55 |
| mflow | North Pole | 12:55 |
| BluesKaj | tetsuo2501, has uefi boot problems , EriC^^ | 12:55 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: what's going on? | 12:56 |
| tetsuo2501 | oh i find an error... | 12:57 |
| BluesKaj | tetsuo2501, EriC^^ is very knowledgeable about UEFI ,,,he can help you | 12:57 |
| tetsuo2501 | I mounted my ubuntu partition on /mnt using live | 12:57 |
| tetsuo2501 | I typed: | 12:58 |
| tetsuo2501 | root@kubuntu:~# sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdX # Example: sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda | 12:58 |
| tetsuo2501 | Installing for i386-pc platform. | 12:58 |
| tetsuo2501 | grub-install: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdX. Check your device.map. | 12:58 |
| tetsuo2501 | root@kubuntu:~# sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda | 12:58 |
| tetsuo2501 | Installing for i386-pc platform. | 12:58 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 | 12:59 |
| tetsuo2501 | It report http://termbin.com/stys | 12:59 |
| tetsuo2501 | my internal HD is sda | 13:00 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: ok, your ubuntu partition is mounted on /mnt right now? | 13:01 |
| tetsuo2501 | yes | 13:01 |
| EriC^^ | it's /dev/sda6 ? | 13:01 |
| tetsuo2501 | yes | 13:01 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: ok, type cat /mnt/etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 | 13:01 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: which kind of pc is this? | 13:02 |
| tetsuo2501 | cat /mnt/etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 | 13:02 |
| tetsuo2501 | ops. | 13:02 |
| tetsuo2501 | http://termbin.com/60lo | 13:02 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999 | 13:02 |
| EriC^^ | is this an hp? sony? | 13:02 |
| tetsuo2501 | hp 255 g4 | 13:03 |
| EriC^^ | laptop? | 13:03 |
| tetsuo2501 | efibootmgr not found... Have I to install it? | 13:03 |
| tetsuo2501 | yes it's a laptop | 13:03 |
| EriC^^ | for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done | 13:04 |
| tetsuo2501 | http://termbin.com/sj817 | 13:04 |
| EriC^^ | type the whole line | 13:04 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: ok, i think you have a stubborn bios | 13:05 |
| EriC^^ | it won't boot anything but the windows efi and resets the boot order every time it restarts | 13:05 |
| tetsuo2501 | I tried for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt/$i; done | 13:05 |
| EriC^^ | there's a typo ^ | 13:05 |
| tetsuo2501 | It report mount: special device run does not exist | 13:05 |
| EriC^^ | /mnt$i not /mnt/$i | 13:06 |
| EriC^^ | ah sorry there's also a typo above | 13:06 |
| tetsuo2501 | ok | 13:06 |
| EriC^^ | for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done | 13:06 |
| tetsuo2501 | I typed it... it show nothing | 13:06 |
| EriC^^ | ok, type sudo chroot /mnt | 13:07 |
| tetsuo2501 | ok done | 13:07 |
| EriC^^ | type mount /dev/sda2 /boot/efi | 13:07 |
| tetsuo2501 | done | 13:07 |
| EriC^^ | ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999 | 13:08 |
| tetsuo2501 | http://termbin.com/copc | 13:08 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: cp /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi{,.backup} | 13:09 |
| tetsuo2501 | done | 13:09 |
| EriC^^ | cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi | 13:10 |
| tetsuo2501 | ok | 13:10 |
| EriC^^ | type nano /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft | 13:11 |
| EriC^^ | in the middle there's a line that says $(item_in_dir bootmgfw.efi | 13:11 |
| EriC^^ | make it $(item_in_dir bootmgfw.efi.backup | 13:12 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: we switched the efi files for ubuntu and windows so the uefi thinks it's booting windows, when in fact it's booting ubuntu, that file is what grub uses to search for windows efi files to add it to its menu | 13:13 |
| EriC^^ | so since we changed the windows file to .backup we're modifying that so grub knows what to search for | 13:13 |
| tetsuo2501 | is this the line? for microsoft in $(item_in_dir microsoft "$efi"); do | 13:13 |
| EriC^^ | no | 13:13 |
| EriC^^ | bootmgfw=$(item_in_dir bootmgfw.efi .... | 13:14 |
| EriC^^ | line 12 | 13:14 |
| tetsuo2501 | done | 13:14 |
| tetsuo2501 | save and exit? | 13:15 |
| EriC^^ | yes | 13:15 |
| tetsuo2501 | ok | 13:15 |
| EriC^^ | then type update-grub | 13:15 |
| tetsuo2501 | it seems it worked! | 13:16 |
| EriC^^ | if for some reason that file gets modified ( such as os-prober getting updated or something ) then you'd have to modify it again, otherwise it will add the bootmgfw.efi file as normal and the windows entry in grub would just boot ubuntu also | 13:16 |
| EriC^^ | did it pick up bootmgfw.efi.backup ? | 13:16 |
| tetsuo2501 | no... Have I to backup it? | 13:17 |
| EriC^^ | what do you mean? | 13:17 |
| tetsuo2501 | ah sorry i misundersend.. | 13:17 |
| EriC^^ | did it say found windows ... bootmgfw.efi.backup ? | 13:17 |
| tetsuo2501 | yes it shows it | 13:17 |
| EriC^^ | ok | 13:17 |
| tetsuo2501 | for microsoft in $(item_in_dir microsoft "$efi"); do | 13:18 |
| EriC^^ | type exit, then restart the pc | 13:18 |
| tetsuo2501 | ok thanks a lot! | 13:18 |
| tetsuo2501 | very very very much | 13:18 |
| tetsuo2501 | :)) | 13:18 |
| EriC^^ | no problem :) | 13:18 |
| tetsuo2501 | bye | 13:18 |
| EriC^^ | bye | 13:18 |
| BluesKaj | thanks for your help here EriC^^ :-) | 13:23 |
| EriC^^ | sure thing :) | 13:23 |
| === kubuntu_ is now known as tetsuo2501 | ||
| tetsuo2501 | Hi to all! | 13:27 |
| tetsuo2501 | Eric^^ I still have that problem :(( | 13:28 |
| EriC^^ | hi tetsuo2501 | 13:28 |
| EriC^^ | yikes | 13:28 |
| tetsuo2501 | now it is worse... | 13:28 |
| EriC^^ | did you get grub at all? | 13:28 |
| tetsuo2501 | it show a list of failed and after it show grub minimal bash | 13:28 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: before it was booting straight into windows right? | 13:29 |
| tetsuo2501 | yes | 13:29 |
| tetsuo2501 | now it boot directly grub.. | 13:29 |
| EriC^^ | ok, then it's something else | 13:29 |
| EriC^^ | does the windows entry boot windows? | 13:30 |
| tetsuo2501 | I didn't tried it.. | 13:30 |
| tetsuo2501 | I'm not interested in it :P | 13:30 |
| EriC^^ | ok, my guess is that it has to do with xfs maybe? or maybe something thats causing it not to find the root fs | 13:31 |
| EriC^^ | maybe something missing in the initramfs? what was the error it gave? | 13:31 |
| tetsuo2501 | what is BGRT? | 13:31 |
| tetsuo2501 | I can't read the error.. it is too fast.. I can read only failed failed and it show after that bash | 13:32 |
| EriC^^ | bash or grub> ? | 13:32 |
| tetsuo2501 | grub minimal bash | 13:32 |
| EriC^^ | you mean initramfs? | 13:33 |
| EriC^^ | does it say grub> | 13:33 |
| EriC^^ | or grub rescue> | 13:33 |
| tetsuo2501 | oh i don't remeber... :( Have i to reboot? | 13:34 |
| EriC^^ | yeah, try to press e over the ubuntu entry, and remove quiet splash and put verbose instead of it | 13:34 |
| EriC^^ | then press ctrl+x , also try the windows entry to see if it's working | 13:34 |
| tetsuo2501 | ehmmm wait I don't understaind... | 13:35 |
| tetsuo2501 | Have i press F9 during boot and press e selecting ubuntu? | 13:35 |
| tetsuo2501 | grub doesn't show nothing else minimal bash after error.. | 13:36 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: no, when you get grub press e over ubuntu, then go down to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz .... quiet splash , and erase quiet splash and type verbose | 13:36 |
| EriC^^ | then press ctrl+x to boot | 13:36 |
| tetsuo2501 | ah ok! | 13:37 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: yeah that's not grub, that's the initramfs, it maybe can't find the root fs, and it's failing and dropping you to a shell | 13:37 |
| EriC^^ | get the exact error to see what's going on | 13:37 |
| tetsuo2501 | ok wait a moment... I'll reboot.. | 13:37 |
| * BluesKaj wonders why users have try these "unusual" file systems for their working OSs | 13:43 | |
| === kubuntu is now known as tetsuo2501 | ||
| tetsuo2501 | Sorry Erik^^ I can't do that... grub not shows OS list... only command line.. | 13:51 |
| tetsuo2501 | Can I change grub.cfg and reinstall it removing quiet slash? | 13:52 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: yeah, were you able to catch the error it gives before dropping to a shell? | 13:53 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: wait, you mean you get a grub> prompt straight away? no menu? | 13:54 |
| tetsuo2501 | no.... it's too fast... I tried 3 times.. | 13:54 |
| tetsuo2501 | yes | 13:54 |
| tetsuo2501 | no menu only prompt | 13:54 |
| EriC^^ | grub or grub rescue> ? | 13:54 |
| tetsuo2501 | grub | 13:54 |
| tetsuo2501 | no rescue | 13:54 |
| EriC^^ | ok that means grub can find it's normal module | 13:55 |
| EriC^^ | try to mount the ubuntu partition | 13:56 |
| tetsuo2501 | ok | 13:56 |
| EriC^^ | and type cat /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999 | 13:56 |
| tetsuo2501 | http://termbin.com/d3q5 | 13:58 |
| EriC^^ | for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done | 14:01 |
| tetsuo2501 | done | 14:02 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi | 14:02 |
| tetsuo2501 | ok | 14:03 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: type cat /mnt/boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg | 14:03 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: type cat /mnt/boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999 | 14:03 |
| tetsuo2501 | type cat /mnt/boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999 | 14:04 |
| tetsuo2501 | http://termbin.com/wbid | 14:04 |
| EriC^^ | that's what grub uses to find the modules dir and then load the menu | 14:04 |
| EriC^^ | you typed type by mistake :D | 14:04 |
| tetsuo2501 | you are right :) | 14:05 |
| tetsuo2501 | wait a moment, please | 14:05 |
| BluesKaj | tetsuo2501, can't you copy and paste ? | 14:05 |
| tetsuo2501 | http://termbin.com/wbid | 14:05 |
| tetsuo2501 | http://termbin.com/u3yb | 14:05 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt | 14:06 |
| tetsuo2501 | i did it wrong.. | 14:06 |
| EriC^^ | then type grub-install | 14:06 |
| tetsuo2501 | ok no errors | 14:06 |
| EriC^^ | then cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi | 14:06 |
| tetsuo2501 | are we going to overwrite windows boot manager? | 14:07 |
| EriC^^ | no that's now the ubuntu efi file | 14:07 |
| EriC^^ | the windows one is bootmgfw.efi.backup | 14:07 |
| EriC^^ | grub-install should put a new shimx64.efi when it runs so we'll copy it over | 14:08 |
| tetsuo2501 | ok i copied it.. | 14:08 |
| EriC^^ | ok, type update-grub | 14:08 |
| tetsuo2501 | ok done no errors... linux and windows in list... | 14:09 |
| EriC^^ | ok, type exit | 14:09 |
| tetsuo2501 | ok | 14:09 |
| EriC^^ | when you restart, if you get grub> again, try to type configfile $prefix/grub.cfg | 14:10 |
| EriC^^ | if that doesn't work, try ls , to get the list of partitions | 14:10 |
| EriC^^ | the one that has your root fs, type set root='hdX,gptY' , then type ls / | 14:10 |
| EriC^^ | to see if it lists the files /boot /etc /root ... | 14:11 |
| EriC^^ | if it lists them, type configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg | 14:11 |
| tetsuo2501 | ok | 14:11 |
| EriC^^ | also type set prefix=($root)'/boot/grub' before typing configfile .... | 14:12 |
| tetsuo2501 | ok I'm going to try it.... | 14:13 |
| EriC^^ | try insmod xfs as well won't harm | 14:14 |
| rishabh | hello , i am facing an issue on my vm .if i leave my vm in saved state and turn off my pc and then turn it back on after some time my wifi doesnt work it shows limited connection .the only work around i know is to switch on the vm ,turn it off and then restart my pc | 14:15 |
| rishabh | host os - windows 8.1 | 14:16 |
| hateball | rishabh: How is this related to Kubuntu? | 14:17 |
| BluesKaj | assume it's the guest OS on his VM | 14:20 |
| rishabh | guest os - kubuntu15.10 ,i asked the same thing on #vbox and they asked me the same thing "how is this related to vbox" | 14:20 |
| hateball | rishabh: The way you are phrasing your question is that wifi is not working on your host OS | 14:21 |
| BluesKaj | rishabh, turning off your pc will not preserved a saved state in a VM inn my experience , perhaps a hibernation might work better | 14:21 |
| hateball | Statement rather than question, I should say | 14:21 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | Hi Eric^^ I'm using a desktop computer... | 14:22 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | I'm having some trouble using grub... | 14:22 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501_deskt: ok, you got grub> ? | 14:22 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | yes | 14:22 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | $prefix=(hd0,gpt2) | 14:23 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | ls / -> unknow filesystem | 14:23 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | $root=hd0,gpt6 | 14:23 |
| EriC^^ | try insmod xfs | 14:25 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | does grub not support xfs? | 14:26 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | ok | 14:26 |
| EriC^^ | type echo $prefix | 14:26 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | error: file /boot/grub/x86_64-efi/xfs.mo9d not found... | 14:26 |
| EriC^^ | and echo $root | 14:26 |
| EriC^^ | prefix is wrong | 14:26 |
| rishabh | hateball : yes the wifi on my host os stops working due to which it's inaccessible on my guest as well . the thing is if i turn off my vm instead of saving it then i dont face the issue ? is this not related to kubuntu ? if it's not then could you please suggest what migt be causing this? | 14:27 |
| EriC^^ | oh that's odd | 14:27 |
| EriC^^ | i have that file | 14:27 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | $prefix= (hd0,gpt2)/boot/grub | 14:27 |
| hateball | rishabh: Well to me it sounds like something in Windows/Virtualbox preventing things from working. Your guest OS can't break out of the hypervisor and cause trouble. | 14:28 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | should it be (hd0,gpt6).... | 14:28 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | could i try to reinstall using ext4 | 14:28 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501_deskt: yeah it should be hd0,gpt6 | 14:29 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501_deskt: echo $root gives hd0,gpt6? | 14:30 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | i'm trying to change it.. | 14:30 |
| EriC^^ | try set prefix='(hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub/grub.cfg' | 14:30 |
| rishabh | hateball : ok ,thank you :) | 14:30 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | ok done... | 14:32 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501_deskt: sorry | 14:33 |
| EriC^^ | try set prefix='(hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub' | 14:33 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | olk | 14:33 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | ok... | 14:33 |
| === struk|desk|away is now known as struk|desk | ||
| tetsuo2501_deskt | echo $root -> hd0,gpt6 | 14:34 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | but ls / -> unknown filesystem | 14:34 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | insmod xfs -> unknown filesystem | 14:35 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | On grub grep, more and less not working... How can I type something like lsmod | grep xfs? | 14:40 |
| EriC^^ | maybe you need to install with grub-install --modules=xfs | 14:43 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501_deskt: you can always use a ext2 separate /boot | 14:43 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | I'll try the first | 14:43 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | but I don't understand... I didn't have these problems with previous versions of kubuntu.. | 14:45 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | and i always used xfs.. | 14:46 |
| BluesKaj | on uefi machines , tetsuo2501_deskt? | 14:46 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | oh no... | 14:46 |
| BluesKaj | uefi is the problem here and xfs doesn't make it easy either | 14:46 |
| EriC^^ | tetsuo2501_deskt: without a separate /boot ? | 14:46 |
| EriC^^ | the ubuntu guide thing says it needs a separate /boot | 14:47 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | with MBR without separate /boot | 14:47 |
| EriC^^ | not sure, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1060323 | 14:47 |
| EriC^^ | i see | 14:47 |
| EriC^^ | btw you are sure it is grub> and not grub rescue> right? | 14:48 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | it sems so.. | 14:48 |
| EriC^^ | "However, a big problem is that GRUB in fact is not able to recognize just about any filesystem. GRUB last stable release (2.0.2beta) is from 2 years ago, and this is the version that most distributions ship. So, while XFS, for example, was supported back in the time of the release, this filesystem has evolved* in the meantime but GRUB did not follow with a new release. Meaning that GRUB cannot boot from a boot partition that is XFS formatted. The same goes for | 14:49 |
| EriC^^ | BTRFS afaik." | 14:49 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | anyway... can I install / using ext4? | 14:49 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | or I alway have to make a ext2 for /boot? | 14:49 |
| EriC^^ | yeah sure | 14:49 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | ok :) | 14:49 |
| EriC^^ | no, ext4 is fine | 14:49 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | thanks for all the effort! :) | 14:49 |
| EriC^^ | no problem | 14:50 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | ehmm 1 thing.. | 14:50 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | have I to change windows boot loader files? | 14:50 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 14:50 |
| EriC^^ | well actually | 14:50 |
| EriC^^ | if you keep the efi partition ( which you should, for windows ) | 14:51 |
| EriC^^ | then all you have to do would be to modify the 20microsoft file again | 14:51 |
| EriC^^ | and update-grub | 14:51 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | efi seems required to windows 10.. | 14:51 |
| EriC^^ | also probably better to copy the new shimx64.efi file you get after installing over the bootmgfw.efi | 14:51 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 14:52 |
| BluesKaj | tetsuo2501_deskt, nope I ran W10 on a non efi non gpt partition for a while on my lenovo g500 | 14:52 |
| EriC^^ | btw windows sometimes will overwrite the bootmgfw.efi and it'll boot straight to windows again, then you'll have to back it up again and copy the shimx46.efi over it again | 14:52 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | mmm i don't know... i can change boot order from bios.. | 14:53 |
| EriC^^ | mine does that sometimes after it updates | 14:53 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | so maybe i'll restore files like before.. | 14:53 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | and try to reinstall ubuntu using ext4 | 14:53 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | and try to reinstall ubuntu using ext4 | 16:07 |
| tetsuo2501_deskt | and try to reinstall ubuntu using ext4 | 16:07 |
| === estan_ is now known as estan | ||
| === alan_ is now known as Guest74078 | ||
| bob2021 | hi. i just converted ubuntu to kubuntu. the little startup menu area, where you pick applications, got too small after i tried adding a widget. how do i make the widget its default size again? | 18:33 |
| BluesKaj | bob2021, kmenu>computer>system settings>icons>advanced tab> size | 18:36 |
| bob2021 | blueskaj: is kmenu the thing in the lower left corner? | 18:37 |
| BluesKaj | bob2021, yes | 18:37 |
| BluesKaj | bob2021, also click on the 3dash stack on the far rioght of the panel and increase the height of the panel slightly | 18:39 |
| bob2021 | blueskaj: right. so, that's the thing that's too small. when i click on it, a thing pops up and it has three parts at the top is user info. at the bottom are some category icons. and the middle is where you pick what you want. in my case, that middle part is about 2 pixels high, so i can't select or click on anything. that's the problem i'm trying to solve. | 18:39 |
| BluesKaj | that will enlarge the icons as well | 18:39 |
| bob2021 | when you say "thirdish stack on the far right," can you clarify what you're referring to? | 18:40 |
| BluesKaj | 3 dashes stack | 18:41 |
| bob2021 | i don't have that | 18:42 |
| BluesKaj | some call it a hamburger | 18:42 |
| BluesKaj | think you;re referring to earlier what 's called the context menu or dialog | 18:42 |
| bob2021 | i have a 3dash stack on the upper left corner of each monitor, is that what you mean? | 18:43 |
| bob2021 | and one on the lower right of the main monitor | 18:43 |
| bob2021 | but not on the panel | 18:44 |
| BluesKaj | I'm referring to the panel at the bottom of the desktop on the far right | 18:44 |
| BluesKaj | where you choose the widgets | 18:45 |
| bob2021 | where do i choose the widgets? | 18:45 |
| BluesKaj | or right click on the desktop , choose widgets | 18:46 |
| bob2021 | ok i made the panel at the bottom taller. it had no effect on the application launcher panel size | 18:46 |
| BluesKaj | add widgets | 18:46 |
| bob2021 | ok the left add widgets panel pops up for a moment, what do i do then? | 18:48 |
| BluesKaj | bob2021, we don't all use multimonitor setups so whatever monitor has the panel with the Kmenu launcher is the one I'm referring to | 18:48 |
| bob2021 | blueskaj right, i found the add widgets panel | 18:48 |
| BluesKaj | the default panel is on the bottom of the desktop with taskmanager digital clock, system tray etc. reszing the height of that panel will also increase the size any icons in it | 18:51 |
| bob2021 | blueskaj : i think maybe i'm losing something in translation. the problem isn't the size of individual icons. its the size of the application launcher panel itself. | 18:54 |
| bob2021 | it has the three parts, top, middle, bottom. the middle window area is very short, and thats where i'd actually pick something, but i can't see any because the window is too short | 18:54 |
| BluesKaj | bob2021, try a screenshot with prtscn key and post it on imgur | 19:01 |
| bob2021 | blueskaj: i don't have a printscreen button, i have an apple keyboard, how do i make a screenshot on this OS? | 19:02 |
| === carlo is now known as Guest16668 | ||
| BluesKaj | bob2021, pass you cursor over the top edge of the window til you get a <--> and draw the edge up to make the window larger/tqller | 19:07 |
| BluesKaj | taller | 19:07 |
| bob2021 | blueskaj i don't get that <--> though, and the panel opens at the top of the screen instead of the lower left | 19:08 |
| BluesKaj | bob2021, do you still have unity available, because the desktop still has the top panel, kubuntu doesn't have one | 19:11 |
| bob2021 | blueskaj i guess, but then i think that would require killing a runnin compute process in R. isn't there another way? | 19:12 |
| BluesKaj | bob2021, I don't know, sorry | 19:13 |
| bob2021 | meh... can you suggest a system monitor like conky that will show GPU usage? | 19:16 |
| BluesKaj | htop in the terminal or ksysguard gui | 19:17 |
| BluesKaj | oh GPU oops | 19:18 |
| bob2021 | yah that's the trick | 19:18 |
| BluesKaj | conky itself works | 19:22 |
| bob2021 | yeah but it was really ugly and it prevented a wallpaper from appearing | 19:24 |
| bob2021 | now that whole monitor looks weird | 19:24 |
| bob2021 | how about this - how can i make the application launcher start at the bottom of the screen instead of the top? | 19:24 |
| BluesKaj | bob2021, this is my desktop the default panel is athe bottom where it appears after installing kubuntu http://imagebin.ca/v/2UhvF6kNKnp2 | 19:42 |
| bob2021 | blueskaj but wht i mean by "application launch" is the thing that pops up when you press the K button | 19:45 |
| bob2021 | the k menu | 19:45 |
| bob2021 | or whatever | 19:45 |
| BluesKaj | yes , that's why I mentioned passing the cursor over the top edge and clicking and drawing the window upwards to increase it's size | 19:47 |
| BluesKaj | bob2021, it used to work on 15.10 , but now that I'm testing 16.04 plasma no longer allows it, but the window almost reaches to the top of the scrteen here | 19:50 |
| bob2021 | blueskaj: I figured it out. it was misreading theheight of my monitor | 19:53 |
| bob2021 | next question... why isn't chrome showing up? | 19:53 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 19:53 |
| BluesKaj | did you install the deb ? | 19:54 |
| bob2021 | blueskaj yes | 19:54 |
| BluesKaj | try kmenu apps>internet | 19:55 |
| bob2021 | nope | 19:56 |
| BluesKaj | bob2021, the deb has it's own installer, try it clicking the deb in your downloads folder | 19:57 |
| BluesKaj | chrome or chromium?, they are different | 19:58 |
| BluesKaj | I prefer chrome due to its up to date embedded flash | 19:58 |
| BluesKaj | altho FF is my default | 19:59 |
| bob2021 | blueskaj: chrome itself, and i used aptitude to install it | 19:59 |
| BluesKaj | run google-chrome in the terminal to see if it launches or errors out | 20:01 |
| bob2021 | i'm in it now | 20:02 |
| six86 | Hello. Me again. Sound devices went away again. Purging alsa-base and pulseaudio and reinstalling doesn't help this time... Any suggestions? | 20:15 |
| six86 | 15.10 with backports | 20:15 |
| BluesKaj | six86, intel audio? | 20:15 |
| six86 | BluesKaj: yep | 20:16 |
| six86 | BluesKaj: onboard intel Mainboard | 20:16 |
| BluesKaj | six86, install alsa-base and alsa-utils, but not pulseaudio | 20:17 |
| six86 | BluesKaj: is there a "new" problem with pulseaudio? It worked fine for years? | 20:18 |
| BluesKaj | six86, that depends on how it;s working on your setup , but intel audio drivers can run alsa perfectly fine without pulse | 20:19 |
| six86 | Purged pulseaudio. Going for a reboot. Back in a few minutes | 20:20 |
| BluesKaj | i have 2 machines the run intel audio fine without pulse | 20:20 |
| BluesKaj | that | 20:20 |
| bob2021 | This is, i will say, a nice little interface | 20:20 |
| bob2021 | blueskaj: My next problem is that linux thinks my wireless Apple touchpad is a mouse, so its not enabling multi-touch or right-clicking. Ideas? | 20:21 |
| six86 | re | 20:22 |
| six86 | BluesKaj: Now I have just a default device and still no sound | 20:22 |
| BluesKaj | bob2021, sorry, none my mobile is an android and I use it as a cellphone mostly , sometimes I use the camera and it connects up with my pcs using kdeconnect..dunno if that's available for apple devices | 20:24 |
| bob2021 | hu? | 20:25 |
| bob2021 | huh? | 20:25 |
| BluesKaj | six86, install phonon4qt5-backend-gstreamer | 20:28 |
| six86 | I think 15.04 and 15.10 are the worst kubuntu versions since I'm using it (2007), with almost every update there are regressions. | 20:28 |
| BluesKaj | bob2021, sorry linux on an ipad? | 20:28 |
| six86 | BluesKaj: is already isntalled | 20:28 |
| BluesKaj | six86, I also use phonon4qt5-backend-vlc | 20:29 |
| bob2021 | blueskaj: no, desktop, but an apple wireless bluetooth touchpad | 20:29 |
| === struk|desk is now known as struk|desk|away | ||
| lordievader | six86: Does aplay work for you? | 20:29 |
| BluesKaj | six86, also make sure alsamixer automute is disabled | 20:30 |
| six86 | lordievader: yep. Lists all sound devices that are greyed out in the system settings | 20:30 |
| six86 | BluesKaj: Auto mute is Enabled... Whats that? | 20:31 |
| lordievader | six86: But do you head sound when you play something with it? | 20:31 |
| BluesKaj | six86, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel | 20:31 |
| lordievader | hear* | 20:31 |
| six86 | lordievader: nope | 20:32 |
| lordievader | six86: Okay, what is the output of 'aplay -L'? | 20:33 |
| six86 | BluesKaj: didn't help | 20:33 |
| BluesKaj | six86, a reboot is needed then | 20:33 |
| six86 | lordievader: lots of output | 20:33 |
| lordievader | six86: Can you pastebin it? | 20:34 |
| six86 | lordievader: http://pastebin.com/DJhQLGz6 | 20:35 |
| BluesKaj | six86, disable automute with the down arrow key | 20:35 |
| BluesKaj | in alsamixer | 20:36 |
| lordievader | six86: How does you audio config look like? You want the audio to go to your wireless headset? | 20:36 |
| BluesKaj | you still have pulse installed , it's probly blocking alsa unless you configure it in system settings | 20:37 |
| six86 | lordievader: everything was fine before the update the last days. I usually use my speakers with the onboard sound and only when playing games siwtch to the headset. | 20:38 |
| six86 | And I always had pulseaudio installed. | 20:38 |
| six86 | This setup is changed for almost 2 year | 20:39 |
| six86 | years | 20:39 |
| lordievader | six86: Ah, wily with backports? | 20:39 |
| six86 | lordievader: exactly | 20:39 |
| six86 | unchanged ^^ | 20:39 |
| lordievader | Ah, yes. There is some strage bug there. Adding yourself to the audio group should fix that. | 20:39 |
| six86 | lordievader: thanks. I will reboot again | 20:41 |
| * BluesKaj shrugs ...ok , nm pulse isn't needed, and to each his own, but make sure you disable automute in alsamixer or you can configure til the cows come home, but you won't have any audio | 20:42 | |
| six86 | lordievader: Yeehaa. Got sound | 20:43 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: The is more likely regarding the bug of the weekend. People started reporting loss of sound after an upgrade. ^ was the fix. | 20:43 |
| lordievader | six86: Good to hear :) | 20:44 |
| six86 | No Icon in the bar though. But i can certainly live with that :D | 20:44 |
| six86 | Do you have a link to the bug report? | 20:44 |
| lordievader | Not sure if there is a bug report. But feel free to search launchpad ;) | 20:45 |
| BluesKaj | that damn automute should be taken out of alsamixer or lrast be enabled byu default rather than the reverse | 20:45 |
| BluesKaj | at least | 20:45 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, which bug? | 20:45 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: The one I described, people upgrade on Wily, reboot and poof no sound. | 20:46 |
| lordievader | Seems like people are getting removed from the audio group, or something. Thought yofel was looking into it... Not sure if there was any progress. | 20:46 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, yeah, the snd-hda-module fails to load , i bet | 20:46 |
| lordievader | I don't think so... Looking at the fix. | 20:47 |
| BluesKaj | didn't experience that on my laptop | 20:47 |
| lordievader | Or work around, however you want to call it. | 20:47 |
| BluesKaj | backports enabled , but i upgraded to 15.04 so maybe i missed that | 20:48 |
| BluesKaj | to 16.04 rather | 20:48 |
| lordievader | Yeah, it was specific for 15.10. | 20:49 |
| six86 | What application has to be started to have volume control enabled? This is missing now | 20:49 |
| bob2021 | this is a lot nicer than unity | 20:50 |
| BluesKaj | sound is cleaner here without pulseaudio and intrl drivers do the job perfectly with alsa | 20:50 |
| BluesKaj | six86, kmix perhaps | 20:50 |
| BluesKaj | bob2021, yes and much more configurable than ubity or gnome etc | 20:51 |
| BluesKaj | unity even | 20:51 |
| bob2021 | too bad chrome doesn't show up and it doesn't have a right-click | 20:52 |
| six86 | and again re :D | 20:53 |
| six86 | so kmix was replaced by plasma-pa which was not installed... | 20:53 |
| BluesKaj | bob2021, try removing it and reinstalling with apt , not aptitude | 20:53 |
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| BluesKaj | six86, dunno i don't use pulseaudio :-) | 20:55 |
| six86 | I like pulseaudio and the idea of it. I'm not using any of the "special features" though. And I see no point in removing it when it just worked for years now. | 20:56 |
| six86 | But like I said, in general Kubuntu 15.04 and 15.10 feel like the worst kubuntu versions in years. So many rough edges and regressions. | 20:57 |
| BluesKaj | puseaudio is just an extra process running on top of alsa | 20:57 |
| lordievader | Pulseaudio is quite lovely, imo. | 20:58 |
| BluesKaj | pulse is needed by other audio chips that need the extra help with their drivers, intel drivers do not | 20:58 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Pulse doesn't do anything with drivers, it lets alsa handle that. | 20:59 |
| bob2021 | blueskah i thought apt was aptitude. that's what i was using, apt | 21:00 |
| BluesKaj | not true , try running web audio (flash) without pulseaudio with non intel chips | 21:01 |
| Guest32123 | hi everybody | 21:01 |
| rattking | I think BluesKaj is talking about helping out drivers that dont mix multiple audio streams. | 21:01 |
| * rattking buys the cmedia chips that support this in linux | 21:01 | |
| BluesKaj | anyway, not gonna debate that old argument today...time to call it a day here ...take care | 21:03 |
| wxl | how does one save a panel so it shows up in the list of panels and/or how do i replace the default panel with my current panel setup? | 21:50 |
| frustrated-kubun | hi, does the about KDE window not show the KDE version information anymore? (using KDE plasma 5.5.3) | 22:30 |
| kuala | hi. i am running kubuntu 15.10 on parallels with dpi scaling disabled. it seems to be working fine so far. the only problem is the cursor. when i set it to 48px size it is just pixel-junk.. when setting it to 24px it works just fine. | 22:45 |
| kuala | any idea how to solve this? | 22:45 |
| kuala | (applies for both breeze and breeze snow as cursor theme) | 22:46 |
| * kuala reboots | 22:59 | |
| bob2021 | where do i sdt my wallpaper? | 23:06 |
| bob2021 | never mind | 23:07 |
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