[00:15] <buddhajuke> Anyone using uzbl in lubuntu? I am trying to disable scrollbars but instructions call for gtk theming. That doesn't apply to lubuntu, correct?
[01:36] <NOOB> is anyone around
[01:36] <NOOB> I have a few quesdtions about ssh on linux
[01:36] <NOOB> they prolly seem silly
[01:36] <NOOB> But i am a recovering windows user
[01:37] <NOOB> and would like to learn the proper way to do a remore ssh session in linux
[01:37] <NOOB> remote
[01:47] <ianorlin> NOOB: are you talking about as a client and have a server ?
[01:47] <NOOB> yep i am ianorlin
[01:47] <ianorlin> or setting up the server say between your laptop and the desktop
[01:47] <ianorlin> is the server already ssh setup or anything
[01:47] <NOOB> i am sshing into a dedicated
[01:47] <NOOB> yes it is
[01:47] <NOOB> all works in putty
[01:47] <NOOB> but you see
[01:47] <NOOB> I have a handy cap
[01:48] <NOOB> I learned all this in windows
[01:48] <NOOB> so its all wrong for dingin linux
[01:48] <NOOB> doing*
[01:48] <ianorlin> ah so you will have hopefully have server setup to use keys
[01:48] <NOOB> i am understanding i can add my key to my linux box
[01:48] <ianorlin> then you need to use the ssh-keygen in a terminal can make you a key
[01:48] <NOOB> already have
[01:48] <ianorlin> yes that is what you need to do
[01:49] <NOOB> its already all working and has for some time in windows
[01:49] <ianorlin> that is really all there is too it
[01:49] <NOOB> and also all working in linux, kinda
[01:49] <NOOB> but
[01:49] <NOOB> I have putty working
[01:49] <ianorlin> what can't copy the file from your linux partition?
[01:49] <ianorlin> oh there are rules on the permissons for your key
[01:49] <NOOB> but i understand i can add the key to the ssh keyring
[01:49] <NOOB> noppe
[01:50] <NOOB> but also how do i get a remot file browser in linux
[01:50] <NOOB> and in windows there was pagent
[01:50] <ianorlin> pcmanfm the  defualt file manager can do this over gvfs  and sftp
[01:50] <ianorlin> and several others can
[01:50] <NOOB> ok, how do?
[01:51] <NOOB> and what is linux pagent tool
[01:51] <ianorlin> you need to add your key into the server
[01:51] <NOOB> ?
[01:51] <ianorlin> and then in the file manager open a new tab and type sftp://yourseverhere.me/
[01:51] <ianorlin> it will ask for your key and you have remote file browsing in the defualt file manager
[01:51] <NOOB> how add my keyfile to server?
[01:51] <ianorlin> which is awesome
[01:52] <ianorlin> copy it to the windows manchine and then transfer it
[01:52] <NOOB> wait
[01:52] <NOOB> nope i am not drunk
[01:53] <ianorlin> or upload to launchpad and then ssh in and run ssh-import-id in launchpad
[01:53] <ianorlin> but you need an ssh for that
[01:53] <NOOB> lol i think i see.  let me try this
[01:53] <ianorlin> having someone externally being able to upload keys like that is horrible for security
[01:53] <ianorlin> which works on windows
[01:53] <NOOB>  i have the key local on the machine
[01:54] <ianorlin> yes you need it on the machine you have access to put on your server
[01:54] <NOOB> um
[01:54] <NOOB> ok so i am in pcmanFM
[01:54] <NOOB> and i am connection to server
[01:55] <NOOB> what is path?
[01:55] <ianorlin> the path is the path to your server
[01:55] <NOOB> its an ip address
[01:55] <ianorlin> that works as well
[01:55] <NOOB> in the host spot
[01:56] <NOOB> ok so it id not ask for my key
[01:56] <NOOB> try 2
[01:56] <ianorlin> NOOB: did you add to keyring ?
[01:56] <NOOB> nope
[01:56] <NOOB> how do
[01:56] <ianorlin> it is probably asking to use the key putty uses under the hood
[01:57] <ianorlin> I only learned ssh after switching to linux
[01:57] <NOOB> i understand that it should have but it didnt
[01:57] <ianorlin> ok so did it offer to input a user password
[01:57] <NOOB> nope
[01:57] <NOOB> connection refused
[01:58] <NOOB> cause i think server no allow non key login
[01:59] <NOOB> ok so is "keyring" lie pagent on windows?
[01:59] <ianorlin> NOOB: The easy way to do this is to get the key on a machine you have access on
[01:59] <NOOB> like*
[01:59] <ianorlin> I don't know what pagent is on windows
[01:59] <NOOB> it is there
[01:59] <NOOB> i have the key fille right here
[01:59] <ianorlin> then on the windows machine transfer the file
[01:59] <NOOB> wait
[01:59] <NOOB> i already have putty working
[02:00] <NOOB> on the linux box
[02:00] <ianorlin> I don't use putty
[02:00] <NOOB> but putty lets me cheat by just telling it where the key file is
[02:00] <NOOB> so how do i add the keyfile to this linux client
[02:01] <NOOB> so i can remote file manage in filemanager
[02:01] <ianorlin> Making different keys for each machine is best practice unless say they were both desktop in your house
[02:01] <NOOB> I am on a linux laptop
[02:02] <NOOB> and i want to connect to my dedicated on the net
[02:02] <NOOB> it is already working in putty
[02:02] <NOOB> but that is not the proper linux way
[02:02] <NOOB> I need to add, i think, my key to the 'keyring' whatever that is
[02:03] <NOOB> so it will know when to use that keyfile when i try and connect to my dedicated
[02:03] <NOOB> does that make sense
[02:05] <ianorlin> if say you left your laptop somewhere you can remove the key having accesss to ssh and not make a crisis by ending up removing the putty key as well
[02:05] <NOOB> i dont understand that
[02:06] <NOOB> oh
[02:06] <NOOB> you are saying make a second key
[02:06] <NOOB> oh i see
[02:06] <NOOB> one key per maching
[02:06] <NOOB> ok that is great
[02:06] <NOOB> but the machine will be lubuntu soon
[02:06] <NOOB> and i wll add a new key for it
[02:06] <ianorlin> which machine
[02:07] <NOOB> i have a wndows laptop and a linux laptop
[02:07] <NOOB> putty works for both of them
[02:08] <NOOB> ok so let me stop and back up
[02:08] <ianorlin> you can install putty in lubuntu if you really wanted to I think
[02:08] <ianorlin> but you need to install it from net
[02:08] <NOOB> how do i add this ssh key to this laptop so that ssh stuff works connection to my dedicated
[02:08] <NOOB> connecting*
[02:08] <ianorlin> you need to transfer to a machine that has access
[02:09] <ianorlin> and then transfer the key over
[02:09] <ianorlin> I should say the public key
[02:09] <NOOB> i am saying i already have the ey local to that machine
[02:09] <NOOB> to this machine
[02:09] <ianorlin> you need it in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys if you are sshing into a user
[02:10] <NOOB> i have the key file here, it is just not installed
[02:10] <ianorlin> or add it to that with ssh-add
[02:10] <ianorlin> thanks for clarifying
[02:13] <NOOB> so i need to make a "authorized_keys" dir in .ssh ?
[02:17] <NOOB> ok so my key is in wrong format
[02:17] <NOOB> lol
[02:21] <NOOB> ok id added
[02:21] <NOOB> how use it now ianorlin
[02:24] <NOOB> lol so easy
[02:24] <NOOB> LOLOLOL
[02:25] <NOOB> ok so how do i get better permissions support
[02:26] <NOOB> so i san see the perms on the remote machine better
[02:39] <NOOB> thanks ianorlin
[10:43] <LocutusOfBorg> hi folks, did anybody had a change to look at libsdl2 sync I did for xenial?
[11:19] <alstown> Hello, I have an issue with my wired Internet connection, I'm not using a router and I'm using DHCP so all settings should be automatic. I just built a new computer and installed Windows 8.1. The internet worked fine and I ran all my updates and installed all the latest drivers. Then I installed Lubuntu 15.10 alongside windows. After installing Lubuntu the Auto ethernet would not connect in Ubuntu. In Windows I tried reinstalling the drivers, disabling the car
[11:20] <alstown> Because I had this issue twice I ran ipconfig /all while the Internet worked in Windows, so I do have that output if it would help. I can also do it now while it's not working if that would help also
[11:22] <alstown> Sorry I accidentally dc'd if someone said something since I posted a few seconds ago
[11:22] <hateball> alstown: that's an issue with windows not releasing the lease when you shutdown
[11:23] <hateball> well it's more of an issue with how your ISP has their shit configured
[11:23] <alstown> okay
[11:23] <alstown> thanks, that's more of an answer than i've had so far :) at least i know, are there any workarounds?
[11:24] <hateball> alstown: you could try going in windows and doing "ipconfig /release" then boot linux and see if it plays nice
[11:24] <hateball> I am not sure networkmanager returns the lease by default either, so you might need to make something similar for going linux to windows
[11:24] <hateball> in the case of linux it is at least scriptable
[11:24] <hateball> anyhow, try it manually first
[11:27] <alstown> sorry, i'm a bit confused right now i'm on lubuntu and windows won't connect. so i would need to do the equivalent of "ipconfig /release" in linux? as a side note, i did try that while i could connect in windows and not ubuntu, but that did not help.
[11:30] <alstown> for ubuntu i would need to run "sudo dhclient -r"?
[11:30] <alstown> and then "sudo dhclient"?
[11:31] <alstown> i'll try brb
[11:43] <alstown> hateball: i ran "sudo dhclient -r" in ubuntu but could not connect in windows, would manually inputting the network settings i'm assigned while in ubuntu into the network settings in windows allow me to connect there? i don't use windows much. i mainly use vm's in ubuntu, but when i do use windows i need the internet, so a manual solution like that is alright for me.
[11:43] <alstown> by "there" i mean in windows
[11:46] <hateball> alstown: well the problem is how your ISP handles dhcp requests. a painless solution would be to get a router
[11:47] <hateball> alstown: I'm not sure it'd work entering static, but you can of course try. The lease is set to your MAC so it should work I suppose
[11:47] <hateball> alstown: but then you'd need to re-do it should the leased IP change
[11:48] <hateball> alstown: I also don't see why your Windows VMs couldnt use the internet
[11:49] <alstown> hateball: they could, i only use them through ubuntu for work, i don't use vm's  in windows. I just use it to play some games :) every once in awhile so a one-off solution should be alright since i don't need to do it that much.
[11:50] <hateball> alstown: There's many native games these days you know. Also there is Wine
[11:51] <hateball> anyhow, you wont break anything by trying static network settings
[11:52] <alstown> hateball: to be specific it's just league of legends and the graphics through wine are not very good. I think this will be the last time i drop $100 on windows though.
[11:52] <hateball> alstown: I see
[11:53] <hateball> I game exlusively on native games myself
[11:53] <hateball> Voting with the wallet and all that
[11:53] <alstown> hateball: yea, thanks for your help anyways. i don't know much about networking and i suspected it was my isp and the dhcp but wasn't sure. i'm glad for the confirmation though.
[11:53] <alstown> hateball: league is free! ;)
[11:53] <hateball> alstown: it's terribly annoying when they do stupid shit like that, or only offer one lease per network port per 24H or some such
[11:53] <hateball> if your network card dies or you switch computer or whatever....
[11:54] <hateball> So, I suggest you get a router :p
[11:54] <hateball> obviously you will have the same problem if the router dies... would need to spoof mac on your computer to be able to get internet
[11:55] <hateball> alstown: maybe communicating with your ISP could help as well, sometimes there are even competent people working in such places
[11:55] <alstown> hateball: i know, it is stupid lol, yea i think i'll have to. i really appreciate your help. right, well i haven't had to much issues with that and my lease is 8 hours. so not to bad
[11:55] <alstown> hateball: i'm in latvia and the language barrier is kind of a problem some times :)
[11:56] <hateball> alstown: I think we're doing just fine, no?
[11:56] <alstown> hateball: but i'm getting 100Mb/s for $15/month, well i'm not latvian and don't speak much latvian :p
[11:57] <hateball> oh!
[11:57] <hateball> :D
[11:59] <alstown> hateball: alright, well i'm going to try to do this manually and see if that'll work. ttyl!
[11:59] <hateball> alstown: good luck
[11:59] <alstown> hateball: thanks
[16:05] <Guest> hi
[16:06] <Guest> Someoen talk here to day ?
[16:09] <Guest> Can i install lubuntu witout internet and not doenloading the files ?
[16:09] <Guest> downloading
[16:10] <damascene> Guest, suer, get the live image. but many things depends on internet these days like updates and installing new softwares
[16:11] <Guest> Wifi dont working before i finnish the instalation.
[16:11] <Guest> Will lubuntu extras replace the missing files ?
[16:11] <Guest> Or where can i find them ?
[16:11] <wxl> you don't need internet with the live cd installation
[16:12] <Guest> I am using a usb memory.
[16:12] <Guest> it shud be the same i think.
[16:13] <wxl> yep, just use the live cd and you're good
[16:13] <Guest> When i installing it use to download some files. What files will missing when i dont use internet ?
[16:14] <wxl> Guest: updates. not necessary for the installation. when you get connected to the internet, they're easy to get with a regular update.
[16:15] <Guest> The updates dont contains flash player.
[16:16] <wxl> what is your reason for beliving that, Guest ?
[16:16] <wxl> flashplugin-installer/downloader is available from precise to xenial
[16:17] <Guest> I saw it when i check the details. no flash player. i am not sure the updates will replace all stuff.
[16:17] <Guest> Maybe some codecs i dont know.
[16:17] <wxl> Guest: if you don't have it installed, you can install it later when you have internet
[16:17] <wxl> !flash | guestr
[16:18] <Guest> Yes. but install what ? the updates is only the ordernary i beleve.
[16:18] <wxl> Guest: see above link
[16:18] <Guest> I am not interesting in the complicated terminal.
[16:19] <wxl> Guest: apparently you didn't read the instructions because that response is not applicable
[16:20] <Guest> I understand.
[16:20] <Guest> I ask in the first place about the extras.
[16:20] <Guest> Will it replace all the missing files it not download when installing ?
[16:20] <wxl> as you'll notice extras is only relevant to (a) firefox and (b) i386 version
[16:21] <Guest> You meen 32 bit.
[16:21] <wxl> Guest: you will get the version of ubuntu that existed at the time of release. when you are connected to the internet again and you update, you will get all the different updates that have happened since but you will not get any extra packages that aren't installed. that doesn't make sense
[16:21] <wxl> Guest: i386 = 32-bit
[16:22] <Guest> I dont know what more files or what ever it donloads when i install. Some propearity software, flash player.. but what more ?
[16:24] <wxl> Guest: flash is not installed by default
[16:24] <damascene> wxl, is it included with the default Linux mint?
[16:24] <Guest> Something will missing when i install without internet. I dont only talk about flash player.
[16:25] <wxl> Guest: generally the way people deal with the problem of missing codecs on ALL OPERATING SYSTEMS is they try to access a resource without the codec and it tells them they need it, so they get it
[16:25] <wxl> damascene: this is not mint
[16:25] <wxl> Guest: then when you have internet you'll have to work to get every single codec and browser extension that could possibly exist?
[16:26] <wxl> damascene: because of license restrictions on this program's distribution, Ubuntu cannot include Flash automatically. on the other hand, mint is a freedom-hater. :)
[16:27] <wxl> Guest: what i can tell you is that in terms of audio/video codecs, if you get vlc, it can play anything you throw at it.
[16:27] <damascene> wxl, sure but I think that will answer his question as he wants codecs and all the extra directly after setup. I'm not trying to advertise any thing here
[16:27] <wxl> Guest: silverlight, in general, does not work in linux. microsoft deprecated it but there are still people using it on the internet for some odd reason
[16:28] <wxl> damascene: yes but there's no list of codecs and extensions out there. his/your guess is as good as mine
[16:28] <Guest> What is Lubuntu downloading when installing with internet ? That is what i need to install after.
[16:28] <wxl> Guest: generally, updates.
[16:29] <Guest> You mean the updates fix all the missing files ?
[16:30] <wxl> Guest: let's say there is package a, b, and c. package a and b are installed by default. c is not. when you connect to the internet, it will update a and b. it will not install c. that makes no sense
[16:30] <wxl> Guest: what version do you have?
[16:31] <Guest> I dont ask for what make sense or not.
[16:31] <Guest> 14.04.3
[16:31] <Guest> I get some error messages.
[16:31] <Guest> Because i installed without internet.
[16:32] <Guest> But i think you tell me the updates fix everything.
[16:32] <damascene> Guest, what is your next choice if yo find out that you will still have missing files if you download Lubuntu?
[16:32] <wxl> well you didn't say that!
[16:32] <wxl> what are these error messages????
[16:33] <Guest> I install the updates very first.
[16:33] <Guest> And it also ask for some language downloads.
[16:34] <Guest> I dont remember the messages.  It was two when i start up. I think it is similar to the messages you get when you chnage to guest account. Maybe ignore them.
[16:35] <wxl> Guest: i don't think it's wise to assume your errors are unrelated
[16:35] <Guest> I think the same.
[16:36] <Guest> I beleve the updates and restricted extras will fix it all if i install without internet.
[16:36] <wxl> Guest: here's what you get installed http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/platform.trusty/desktop-common http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/platform.trusty/minimal http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds
[16:37] <Guest> As you try to tell me.
[16:37] <wxl> oops last one should be http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/lubuntu.trusty/desktop
[16:38] <Guest> It is to much to understand at the moment.
[16:42] <Guest> I dont understand all.. I just have to hope it will be ok without internet.
[16:43] <Guest> I dont understand why it will not connect when i installing.
[18:40] <jilocasin0> afternoon everyone
[18:42] <jilocasin0> quick question for anyone in the know....  Running lubuntu under 15.10 and have the 'panel' (large bar housing menus, taskbar, clock etc.) across the top of the screen.  If I'm not careful, I lose the title bar of my open windows _under_ the panel.  How do I make it so that I can't do that?
[19:08] <krytarik> jilocasin0: Is the option "Reserve space..." enabled in the panel's settings?
[19:11] <jilocasin0> krytarik: yes, Properties: Make window managers treat the panel as dock and Reserve space, and not covered by maximized windows but checked.
[19:11] <krytarik> jilocasin0: Multiple monitors perhaps?
[19:12] <jilocasin0> krytarik: yes, two, panel only acrosss main monitor.
[19:12] <krytarik> LP bug 1476791.
[19:13] <jilocasin0> it isn't even maximized windows.  Any window can have it's title slide up under the panel if you aren't very careful.
[19:13] <krytarik> Sure.
[19:13] <jilocasin0> grab a random window, move it to the top, scrunch your face as you can't get it back (the title bar is _under_ the panel). :(
[19:14] <jilocasin0> most desktops won't let you do that.
[19:14] <krytarik> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions#A_window.27s_top_title_bar_is_under_the_panel_so_I_can.27t_reach_it.2C_but_I_would_like_to_move.2Fclose.2Fminimize.2Fetc_the_window.
[19:32] <jilocasin0> krytarik: good to hear there's a way (ALT) to get it back, bad to hear that it happens at all.
[19:48] <jilocasin0> well thanks for everything
[19:48] <jilocasin0> byt now
[22:38] <NOOB> high.  how do i update VLC to 2.2.1 in lxle.  can i just add a ppa?
[22:39] <Unit193> NOOB: LXLE is a deriv of Lubuntu, it isn't Lubuntu.  You have to seek support from their support methods (forums, #lxle, or whatever else they have.)
[22:39] <Unit193> And, as far as VLC, yeah it isn't in backports so no supported way to get it in 14.04, just PPAs.