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terratomais latest ubuntu beta systemd only ?01:08
k1l_i think so01:11
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lordievaderGood morning.10:47
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lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: you sure you have graphics drivers installed correctly?13:23
Snowstormlotuspsychje: I think so, but I can try to install the latest firmware and drivers using the stuff at 01.org.13:24
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: can you pastebin sudo lshw -C video please13:24
SnowstormSure thing lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/vaNaNpXR13:26
lotuspsychjeok skylake13:27
lotuspsychje!bug | Snowstorm13:27
ubottuSnowstorm: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.13:27
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: try to add syslog, dmesg, lshw etc to give the devs as much information13:28
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: maybe a picture link of the glitch too?13:28
Snowstormlotuspsychje: http://imgur.com/a/XKFC0 Hovering over the scrollbar on the first image.13:30
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: did you have this glitch in other ubuntu versions?13:30
Snowstormlotuspsychje: Not sure, I can test 15.10 now, used 16.04 as it had some firmware that 15.10 was missing.13:31
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: well you can add this bug to xenial allright13:31
lotuspsychjebut not sure against wich package13:32
lotuspsychjeas its a screen flaw, perhaps the xorg intel13:32
Snowstormlotuspsychje: Ok, I will do that. Thanks for helping, but can I ask for one more thing? There is a package that is somewhat common to use that is missing for php7 in 16.04, and it's not in Debian unstable either, is there any way to see if it's planned or not? Would suck if it was forgotten.13:34
lotuspsychje!info php xenial13:35
ubottuphp (source: php-defaults): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (default). In component universe, is optional. Version 23 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 10 kB13:35
lotuspsychje!info php5 xenial13:35
ubottuphp5 (source: php5): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 5.6.16+dfsg-1ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 10 kB13:35
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: we will have to wait what version they will add to xenial final release..13:35
Snowstorm!info php-apcu xenial13:36
ubottuPackage php-apcu does not exist in xenial13:36
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: but as you know its recommended to only use php version meant for xenial right13:36
lotuspsychje!latest | Snowstorm13:36
ubottuSnowstorm: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.13:36
Snowstorm!info php7.0 xenial13:37
ubottuphp7.0 (source: php7.0): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0.2-4 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB13:37
lotuspsychjeoh right13:38
Snowstormlotuspsychje: The PHP7 package is there, but there is no apcu packaged for it, form what I can see.13:38
lotuspsychje!info php713:38
ubottuPackage php7 does not exist in xenial13:38
lotuspsychje!info php7.013:38
ubottuphp7.0 (source: php7.0): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0.2-4 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB13:38
Snowstormlotuspsychje: The guy who usually packages php and stuff is quite active, so I guess he's on it: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php13:40
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: nice one13:40
SnowstormDoes anyone know when 4.4 will hit Xenial? I currently have a wierd Broadcom wifi ward that's not supported before 4.413:41
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: last of this month13:42
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic xenial13:42
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.0.7.8 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB13:42
lotuspsychjestill 4.3 atm :p13:42
SnowstormYeah, I have to stick with the mainline for wily until then if I want wifi. Ordered a new card, but I guess the 4.4 kernel will hit before that then. :)13:44
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: yeah end of the month it should come13:44
SnowstormLooks like 16.04 will be a nice release. :)13:46
lotuspsychjeyeah mate, i got it running on desktop stable as rock already13:47
SnowstormI really like that stuff like PHP7 is packaged, and everything seems stable, with the exception of some small graphical glitches and a strange file explorer. :)13:49
lotuspsychjeok i dont use php too much myself, but glad you like it13:49
Snowstormlotuspsychje: Om, not sure what package I should tag in the bug report, cause the behavior seems to be like that everywhere for me, not just in the terminal. But other places(like the file manager) has a white background so it does not show. Where does the scrollbars come from? :/14:00
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: tags will be added by the devs14:00
SnowstormSnowstorm: Ok. :)14:01
SnowstormIs this an ok bugreport? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/153776614:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1537766 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Graphical glitch with scrollbars" [Undecided,New]14:14
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: lemme check mate14:14
SnowstormI was thinking I would report what I find, but I don't want to create a mess.14:14
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: thats look allrighty mate14:15
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: lets hope it gets solved soon14:15
SnowstormOk, thanks lotuspsychje, you're really helpful. :)14:16
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: the same counts for you, as you helping the community with this14:17
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: in april we might have a nice n shiny rockstable xenial :p14:18
Snowstormlotuspsychje: I hope so, I'm planning to put xenial on a bunch of servers as it has PHP7 packaged, I'm so sick of compiling and using ppa's. :)14:19
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: yeah ppa's arent very recommended to use...14:20
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: here the server daily: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/14:23
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: but not recommended for production in this stage :p14:24
lotuspsychjeonly test and bug14:24
Snowstormlotuspsychje: Is there any differences on desktop and server? It's the same package versions, right? :) I planned to test on Xenial with php7, but I guess I have to wait until the package I need is there. :)14:25
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: yeah everything 16.04 should be able to download packages from the repo14:26
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: but server will not have gui bu default of course, and contain other packages then desktop14:27
lotuspsychjeby14:27
SnowstormI know. :)14:27
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: so our php7.0 package shows optional, also download to your server14:27
SnowstormWhat do you mean lotuspsychje?14:28
lotuspsychje!info php7.0 | Snowstorm14:29
ubottuSnowstorm: php7.0 (source: php7.0): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0.2-4 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB14:29
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: optional= means not installed by default14:29
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: you server edition will also need to download it if wanna use14:29
Snowstormlotuspsychje: Oh, yeah. I think there is too much stuff included already :P14:30
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: looks like the server edition is 706mb iso14:30
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: might be interesting for you to check whats inside already :p14:31
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: maybe with a virtualbox?14:31
Snowstormlotuspsychje: I usually use minimal images, so I just have to install what I need and not uninstall a bunch of packages. :)14:31
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: oh well minimal is a bit advanced right14:32
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: i like more a stripdown method, but thats a flavor everyone can choose right14:32
Snowstormlotuspsychje: I love the desktop images, but I have no idea why there are so many packages on the server images. :P14:36
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: well i guess a default server needs alot of stuff by default, to be secure and have good basics...14:37
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: but i think you best ask this in #ubuntu-server im not familliar enough14:37
SnowstormDo you know what's new in Xenial? :) I'14:41
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: on server no14:42
Snowstormlotuspsychje: I was thinking of the desktop version. :)14:42
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: oh, all kinds of candy comming our way :p14:42
SnowstormJust ned packages, 4.4 kernel and systemd? :)14:42
Snowstormnew*14:43
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: new firefox, new libreoffice version, new package versions all around yes14:43
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: a new usb creator app14:43
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: gnome software instead of ubuntu software center14:44
lotuspsychjeunity8/mir14:44
SnowstormIs mir coming? :O14:44
lotuspsychjein testphase14:44
SnowstormOk. :)14:44
lotuspsychjewell i think full release will be 16.1014:44
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: but im testing unity8 already on xenial atm14:45
SnowstormI hate the current software center, I'ts so slow and...unusable. :(14:45
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: looks like the simple ubuntu touch version right now14:45
SnowstormGood thing it gets changed. :)14:45
lotuspsychjeSnowstorm: yeah i agree14:45
bp0hello16:27
bp0is there any way to get the old file copy/move window back in 16.04?16:27
k1l_you mean that? http://i.stack.imgur.com/CxEC4.png16:29
k1l_i think that is related to the used nautils version16:29
bp0yes, please16:29
k1l_its nautilus 3.18 now16:30
bp0does that mean it is not possible?16:31
k1l_i think you would need to manually downgrade (which will brake things) or manually package a new nautilus with the old dialog.16:32
bp0that is sad16:38

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