[01:08] <terratoma> is latest ubuntu beta systemd only ?
[01:11] <k1l_> i think so
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[10:47] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[13:23] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: you sure you have graphics drivers installed correctly?
[13:24] <Snowstorm> lotuspsychje: I think so, but I can try to install the latest firmware and drivers using the stuff at 01.org.
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: can you pastebin sudo lshw -C video please
[13:26] <Snowstorm> Sure thing lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/vaNaNpXR
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> ok skylake
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> !bug | Snowstorm
[13:27] <ubottu> Snowstorm: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: try to add syslog, dmesg, lshw etc to give the devs as much information
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: maybe a picture link of the glitch too?
[13:30] <Snowstorm> lotuspsychje: http://imgur.com/a/XKFC0 Hovering over the scrollbar on the first image.
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: did you have this glitch in other ubuntu versions?
[13:31] <Snowstorm> lotuspsychje: Not sure, I can test 15.10 now, used 16.04 as it had some firmware that 15.10 was missing.
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: well you can add this bug to xenial allright
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> but not sure against wich package
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> as its a screen flaw, perhaps the xorg intel
[13:34] <Snowstorm> lotuspsychje: Ok, I will do that. Thanks for helping, but can I ask for one more thing? There is a package that is somewhat common to use that is missing for php7 in 16.04, and it's not in Debian unstable either, is there any way to see if it's planned or not? Would suck if it was forgotten.
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> !info php xenial
[13:35] <ubottu> php (source: php-defaults): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (default). In component universe, is optional. Version 23 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 10 kB
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> !info php5 xenial
[13:35] <ubottu> php5 (source: php5): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 5.6.16+dfsg-1ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 10 kB
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: we will have to wait what version they will add to xenial final release..
[13:36] <Snowstorm> !info php-apcu xenial
[13:36] <ubottu> Package php-apcu does not exist in xenial
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: but as you know its recommended to only use php version meant for xenial right
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> !latest | Snowstorm
[13:36] <ubottu> Snowstorm: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.
[13:37] <Snowstorm> !info php7.0 xenial
[13:37] <ubottu> php7.0 (source: php7.0): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0.2-4 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> oh right
[13:38] <Snowstorm> lotuspsychje: The PHP7 package is there, but there is no apcu packaged for it, form what I can see.
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> !info php7
[13:38] <ubottu> Package php7 does not exist in xenial
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> !info php7.0
[13:38] <ubottu> php7.0 (source: php7.0): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0.2-4 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB
[13:40] <Snowstorm> lotuspsychje: The guy who usually packages php and stuff is quite active, so I guess he's on it: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: nice one
[13:41] <Snowstorm> Does anyone know when 4.4 will hit Xenial? I currently have a wierd Broadcom wifi ward that's not supported before 4.4
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: last of this month
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[13:42] <ubottu> linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.0.7.8 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> still 4.3 atm :p
[13:44] <Snowstorm> Yeah, I have to stick with the mainline for wily until then if I want wifi. Ordered a new card, but I guess the 4.4 kernel will hit before that then. :)
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: yeah end of the month it should come
[13:46] <Snowstorm> Looks like 16.04 will be a nice release. :)
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> yeah mate, i got it running on desktop stable as rock already
[13:49] <Snowstorm> I really like that stuff like PHP7 is packaged, and everything seems stable, with the exception of some small graphical glitches and a strange file explorer. :)
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> ok i dont use php too much myself, but glad you like it
[14:00] <Snowstorm> lotuspsychje: Om, not sure what package I should tag in the bug report, cause the behavior seems to be like that everywhere for me, not just in the terminal. But other places(like the file manager) has a white background so it does not show. Where does the scrollbars come from? :/
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: tags will be added by the devs
[14:01] <Snowstorm> Snowstorm: Ok. :)
[14:14] <Snowstorm> Is this an ok bugreport? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1537766
[14:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1537766 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Graphical glitch with scrollbars" [Undecided,New]
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: lemme check mate
[14:14] <Snowstorm> I was thinking I would report what I find, but I don't want to create a mess.
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: thats look allrighty mate
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: lets hope it gets solved soon
[14:16] <Snowstorm> Ok, thanks lotuspsychje, you're really helpful. :)
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: the same counts for you, as you helping the community with this
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: in april we might have a nice n shiny rockstable xenial :p
[14:19] <Snowstorm> lotuspsychje: I hope so, I'm planning to put xenial on a bunch of servers as it has PHP7 packaged, I'm so sick of compiling and using ppa's. :)
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: yeah ppa's arent very recommended to use...
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: here the server daily: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: but not recommended for production in this stage :p
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> only test and bug
[14:25] <Snowstorm> lotuspsychje: Is there any differences on desktop and server? It's the same package versions, right? :) I planned to test on Xenial with php7, but I guess I have to wait until the package I need is there. :)
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: yeah everything 16.04 should be able to download packages from the repo
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: but server will not have gui bu default of course, and contain other packages then desktop
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> by
[14:27] <Snowstorm> I know. :)
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: so our php7.0 package shows optional, also download to your server
[14:28] <Snowstorm> What do you mean lotuspsychje?
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> !info php7.0 | Snowstorm
[14:29] <ubottu> Snowstorm: php7.0 (source: php7.0): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0.2-4 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: optional= means not installed by default
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: you server edition will also need to download it if wanna use
[14:30] <Snowstorm> lotuspsychje: Oh, yeah. I think there is too much stuff included already :P
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: looks like the server edition is 706mb iso
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: might be interesting for you to check whats inside already :p
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: maybe with a virtualbox?
[14:31] <Snowstorm> lotuspsychje: I usually use minimal images, so I just have to install what I need and not uninstall a bunch of packages. :)
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: oh well minimal is a bit advanced right
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: i like more a stripdown method, but thats a flavor everyone can choose right
[14:36] <Snowstorm> lotuspsychje: I love the desktop images, but I have no idea why there are so many packages on the server images. :P
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: well i guess a default server needs alot of stuff by default, to be secure and have good basics...
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: but i think you best ask this in #ubuntu-server im not familliar enough
[14:41] <Snowstorm> Do you know what's new in Xenial? :) I'
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: on server no
[14:42] <Snowstorm> lotuspsychje: I was thinking of the desktop version. :)
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: oh, all kinds of candy comming our way :p
[14:42] <Snowstorm> Just ned packages, 4.4 kernel and systemd? :)
[14:43] <Snowstorm> new*
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: new firefox, new libreoffice version, new package versions all around yes
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: a new usb creator app
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: gnome software instead of ubuntu software center
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> unity8/mir
[14:44] <Snowstorm> Is mir coming? :O
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> in testphase
[14:44] <Snowstorm> Ok. :)
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> well i think full release will be 16.10
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: but im testing unity8 already on xenial atm
[14:45] <Snowstorm> I hate the current software center, I'ts so slow and...unusable. :(
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: looks like the simple ubuntu touch version right now
[14:45] <Snowstorm> Good thing it gets changed. :)
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> Snowstorm: yeah i agree
[16:27] <bp0> hello
[16:27] <bp0> is there any way to get the old file copy/move window back in 16.04?
[16:29] <k1l_> you mean that? http://i.stack.imgur.com/CxEC4.png
[16:29] <k1l_> i think that is related to the used nautils version
[16:29] <bp0> yes, please
[16:30] <k1l_> its nautilus 3.18 now
[16:31] <bp0> does that mean it is not possible?
[16:32] <k1l_> i think you would need to manually downgrade (which will brake things) or manually package a new nautilus with the old dialog.
[16:38] <bp0> that is sad