| k1l_ | what cables/dongles/adapters do i need to plug my n4 into dockmode? | 01:55 |
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| dobey | k1l_: slimport mhl for the hdmi, and bt kb/mouse if you mean for the "convergence" mode when docked | 02:01 |
| k1l_ | hmm, dont have a bt mouse. | 02:05 |
| andywork | dobey: does it really have to be an mhl adapter? | 02:25 |
| k1l_ | iirc i saw some pictures with some otg cables using a usb mouse? | 02:26 |
| dobey | andywork: as opposed to what? | 02:27 |
| andywork | some new version that doesn't require external power for the adapter | 02:28 |
| dobey | k1l_: yeah, on the device afaik. i'm not sure mhl+usb are doable on the slimport. but i'm not 100% certain. | 02:28 |
| k1l_ | dobey: a right | 02:29 |
| dobey | eh? | 02:30 |
| dobey | "mhl slimport adapter" search on amazon shows me lots of things that don't have external power adapters | 02:30 |
| andywork | ok, then perhaps i am wrong | 02:31 |
| Elleo | dobey: aren't mhl and slimport different things? I thought they were competing standards, so you'd either have an MHL adaptor or a slimport adapter depending on the device (slimport for nexus 4) | 02:32 |
| dobey | Elleo: i have no idea about that. afaik, micro usb is micro usb | 02:33 |
| dobey | i guess http://www.tested.com/tech/android/457205-mhl-vs-slimport/ answers it | 02:34 |
| andywork | i did a quick search, "SlimPort is an alternative to Mobile High Definition Link (MHL)" | 02:35 |
| dobey | Elleo: i guess the answer is "everybody really wants miracast anyway" | 02:35 |
| Elleo | dobey: maybe, I'm not certain miracast will be that great for desktop style usage due to the increased latency; it's good for streaming videos and stuff to a display, but I'm not sure it'll be as good as MHL or SlimPort for more interactive usage | 02:37 |
| Elleo | I'd be very happy if I'm wrong about that though | 02:37 |
| k1l_ | Elleo: with todays hardware or in general? | 02:38 |
| dobey | Elleo: eh, i don't know enough about all the wireless video or usb-to-whatever options to say much more about it. it's not something i'm likely to ever use anyway. i'm more interested in system integration features | 02:40 |
| Elleo | k1l_: not sure, I wouldn't rule anything out in terms of improvements being made, but the primary aim of the standard was multimedia display rather than interactive use, so I doubt latency gets that much attention | 02:41 |
| k1l_ | ah ok | 02:42 |
| Elleo | k1l_: it only takes a small amount of latency for things like mouse movements to feel really awkward | 02:42 |
| Elleo | but I don't know how much can be tweaked from the ubuntu side | 02:42 |
| dobey | Elleo: well, the stereo in my truck has some thing where it can use miracast from the phone, and bluetooth, to do things. that doesn't have a mouse pointer though, just uses the stereo for the touch screen to tap on things and such | 02:44 |
| dobey | i don't know how well it works either though | 02:44 |
| dobey | but anyway | 02:44 |
| Elleo | yeah, from a bit of googling it sounds like while most adapters have pretty awful latency (300ms - 3000ms) there are some very low latency ones | 02:45 |
| Elleo | so it seems possible to do low latency stuff with miracast | 02:45 |
| dobey | can't do too much with my nexus 5 anyway, without bluetooth | 02:45 |
| Elleo | anyway, I should get to bed :) | 02:46 |
| dobey | yeah. it's horribly cold here, so i think it's time to go bury myself for the night | 02:47 |
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| delijati | app publish is down "Service unavailable. Please try again later" | 07:25 |
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| V99 | hi everyone | 09:16 |
| JamesTait | Good evening all! Have a rotten Monday, and a terrible Opposite Day! 😃 | 09:49 |
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| zzarr | hello! | 11:32 |
| zzarr | is there a way to transmit the display wireless from my phone? (MX4) | 11:33 |
| lotuspsychje | zzarr: transmit? | 11:41 |
| zzarr | lotuspsychje, what I meant was connect a external display over a wireless protocol | 11:48 |
| lotuspsychje | zzarr: you want to stream something from your phone to another screen over wifi? | 11:48 |
| zzarr | lotuspsychje, yes, I wish to have a desktop environment on an external monitor over a wireless connection | 11:51 |
| lotuspsychje | zzarr: how about you wait for the convergence to happen? but i think that will be over cable | 11:52 |
| zzarr | lotuspsychje, but if I understand it correctly convergence is coming in the next update | 11:54 |
| lotuspsychje | i think that will be in OTA9 indeed | 11:54 |
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| zzarr | sadly my phone don't have the possibility to connect an external monitor via cable | 11:55 |
| lotuspsychje | zzarr: mx4 does have an usb right? | 11:57 |
| zzarr | yes, but no HDMI support | 11:57 |
| lotuspsychje | zzarr: i think some devices will be able to convergence over the usb port with adapter | 11:58 |
| lotuspsychje | zzarr: but not sure about mx4, dont shoot me ok :p | 11:58 |
| zzarr | the MX4 don't have any support for MHL | 11:59 |
| zzarr | (HDMI over USB) | 11:59 |
| lotuspsychje | zzarr: ah, then im not sure mate | 12:00 |
| lotuspsychje | zzarr: we soon all will know whats gonna happen on ota9 | 12:00 |
| zzarr | yes | 12:00 |
| zzarr | maybe Aethercast is the answer | 12:10 |
| delijati | app publish is not working anymore | 12:10 |
| lotuspsychje | delijati: file a bug or find an existing bug? | 12:11 |
| robin-hero | MX4 doesn't support SlimPort or MHL, so you can't connect to an external monitor via cable. But Canonical is working on a wireless solution: https://launchpad.net/aethercast | 12:11 |
| lotuspsychje | robin-hero: tnx for the info mate | 12:12 |
| robin-hero | np | 12:12 |
| tathhu | :o | 12:12 |
| delijati | @lotuspsychje alread did | 12:13 |
| zzarr | robin-hero, I knew that SlimPort and MHL don't work, but do you know if aethercast will be available in OTA-9? | 12:13 |
| robin-hero | zarr, certainly not, it is still in a very early stage, maybe the end of the year. but this is only a speculation, I'm not a Canonical employee | 12:15 |
| delijati | @lotuspsychje https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-portal/+bug/1537656 | 12:15 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1537656 in Developer registration portal "Ubuntu store upload not working" [Undecided,New] | 12:15 |
| robin-hero | zzarr, ^ | 12:16 |
| robin-hero | zzarr, There's a lot of work to do: https://plus.google.com/+PopescuSorin/posts/hjpu8q2oCMy | 12:16 |
| zzarr | thanks robin-hero, but I hope I will be able to install a alpha/beta sometime | 12:16 |
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| robin-hero | zzarr, I hope that so, because my main phone is a Bq Aquaris E4.5, and that also doesn't support SlimPort... | 12:17 |
| lotuspsychje | delijati: not sure mate, idle here a bit until devs awake they might know | 12:17 |
| delijati | lotuspsychje: ack | 12:18 |
| zzarr | just flip the monitor 90 degree to the right ;) | 12:18 |
| zzarr | look what I found https://github.com/meizuosc/m75/tree/master/mediatek/kernel/drivers/mhl/driver/mhl_tx_drv | 12:19 |
| BlackJohnny | Hello! I could use a hint on what reference to check in order to learn what to do when my main ubuntu-touch process is placed in background | 13:01 |
| lotuspsychje | BlackJohnny: what do you mean process? | 13:03 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, I am working with the camera from my app and eventually it freezes and does not release anymore the camera an you need a reboot of the phone in order to recover from this situation | 13:04 |
| BlackJohnny | eventually, if it is placed in the background with "alt-tab" | 13:04 |
| lotuspsychje | BlackJohnny: wich phone is this? | 13:05 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, i got the behavior on both BQ and MX4 | 13:05 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, and it is only after a few switches | 13:06 |
| lotuspsychje | BlackJohnny: updated to ota8? | 13:06 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, 8.5, and it is an app already on the store and some users are complaining about this behaviour | 13:06 |
| lotuspsychje | BlackJohnny: wich app? | 13:07 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, and it is not happening so often but it is not ok | 13:07 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, aieye | 13:07 |
| lotuspsychje | BlackJohnny: maybe file a new bug for aieye or find and existing one? | 13:07 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, file a new bug to who? :) | 13:08 |
| lotuspsychje | BlackJohnny: check the bug link in our topic mate :p | 13:08 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, I read that this is an architecture decision and somehow you need to take care of the state | 13:09 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, but I dont know where is this documented | 13:09 |
| lotuspsychje | BlackJohnny: ah i see you are the writer of this app? | 13:09 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, yes :) | 13:10 |
| lotuspsychje | cool :p | 13:10 |
| lotuspsychje | BlackJohnny: well filing a bug could be relevant for others to troubleshoot right | 13:10 |
| lotuspsychje | BlackJohnny: if an app freezes the system, we should at least know why... | 13:11 |
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| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, not the entire system but it blocks the access to the camera even for the default camera app | 13:11 |
| lotuspsychje | BlackJohnny: you have the camera app enabled in system settings right? | 13:12 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, I do | 13:12 |
| lotuspsychje | app permission camera | 13:12 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, I will dig more into the documentation | 13:12 |
| lotuspsychje | BlackJohnny: i would file a new bug... | 13:13 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, it is working ok most of the time :) | 13:13 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, ok, thanks | 13:13 |
| lotuspsychje | BlackJohnny: have you tried also a reset to defaults and try aieye? | 13:13 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, that I have not tried | 13:13 |
| lotuspsychje | BlackJohnny: as maintainer, i would advise that :p | 13:13 |
| lotuspsychje | BlackJohnny: to be sure its not solved | 13:14 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, I will do that but I have the feeling I need to release the camera when my app is sent to background | 13:15 |
| BlackJohnny | lotuspsychje, thanks | 13:15 |
| lotuspsychje | BlackJohnny: maybe you should talk to app creators that use the camera app also? they might know | 13:16 |
| delijati | app store publish is down | 14:44 |
| beuno | delijati, how so? | 14:45 |
| beuno | looks fine | 14:45 |
| delijati | beuno: https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-portal/+bug/1537656 | 14:46 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1537656 in Developer registration portal "Ubuntu store upload not working" [Undecided,New] | 14:46 |
| beuno | delijati, did you try again? :) | 14:46 |
| beuno | matiasb, ^ | 14:47 |
| delijati | beuno: a minute ago | 14:47 |
| * matiasb looks | 14:49 | |
| matiasb | delijati, hmm... just tried here, without issues, let me check your particular case | 14:53 |
| delijati | matiasb: i try it again maybe my screenshots are to big ? | 14:53 |
| delijati | too | 14:53 |
| matiasb | delijati, I think that shouldn't interfere, but maybe you can try uploading without the screenshots and adding them later | 14:54 |
| delijati | matiasb: ok i try it | 14:54 |
| delijati | matiasb: its still not working :/ | 14:57 |
| delijati | matiasb: should i try a different browser im using firefox ? | 14:58 |
| matiasb | delijati, ok :-/ browser shouldn't make a difference, I'm checking if I can find anything related to your case | 14:59 |
| delijati | matiasb: ack | 14:59 |
| CheeryLee | Hey, guys! Where should I flash the Ubuntu Touch tarball? In which folder? | 15:04 |
| CheeryLee | Earlier I flashed it in /system library. It was 2013. But how now? | 15:08 |
| CheeryLee | Oops... I want to say folder, not library | 15:09 |
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| CheeryLee | Is anybody here? | 15:28 |
| matiasb | delijati, afaict, it seems there is some conflict with your package version and previous uploads; I'd try to re-upload your package with an updated version number, and check if that works | 15:30 |
| CheeryLee | Can you help me with flashing the system image? | 15:32 |
| delijati | matiasb: hmm ok but there is not app listet under https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/ -> "You have no packages." | 15:37 |
| matiasb | delijati, right, you still need to upload it as a new package, but updating the version number in your package may fix the problem (from what I can check, your upload may be conflicting with a previous failed one), since upgrading the version number will process it as a completely new binary | 15:57 |
| delijati | matiasb: ahh ok thanks i give that a try | 15:58 |
| delijati | matiasb: btw. it there a more "cli" way of uploading a click app? | 16:02 |
| matiasb | delijati, yes, you can take a look at click-toolbelt, https://launchpad.net/click-toolbelt | 16:03 |
| delijati | matiasb: ahh perect exactly what i was searching for :) | 16:05 |
| n4fa | Is there any way to delete cookies from webbrowser-app? | 16:18 |
| matv1 | I remember there was a telegram irc channel fr ubuntu cli. Is it still active? if yes whats the channelname? | 16:33 |
| lotuspsychje | !alis | matv1 | 16:57 |
| ubot5 | matv1: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http | 16:57 |
| lotuspsychje | matv1: seems like its ##telegram | 16:58 |
| matv1 | lotuspsychje cheers :) | 17:01 |
| delijati | matiasb: i got error while using click_toolbelt i've added tickets for that .. now i try to upload it it again through the form | 17:03 |
| matv1 | lotuspsychje but thats not it :( | 17:04 |
| lotuspsychje | matv1: alis doesnt give much more im affraid | 17:05 |
| lotuspsychje | matv1: ##irc-telegram and #telegram small chans | 17:05 |
| delijati | matiasb: through the form it worked now ... thanks | 17:06 |
| matv1 | yeah i used my irc client to do a channel search. I supose it does the same as alis does. it gives me a bunch of results but its not there | 17:07 |
| matv1 | i am sure it existed at some point | 17:07 |
| matiasb | delijati, ack, great! and thank you too | 17:08 |
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| delijati | matiasb: just one more question; when can i expect my app to be published (reviewed) | 17:21 |
| mcphail | delijati: if your app passes automatic review, it is usually published in a few seconds | 17:24 |
| matiasb | delijati, right, it seems yours didn't pass the checks though | 17:25 |
| delijati | mcphail: ahh i see "Automated review found 1 errors and 0 warnings." | 17:25 |
| mcphail | delijati: that ill need to be fixed before it can be published | 17:26 |
| mcphail | *will | 17:26 |
| delijati | matiasb: can i see this error somewhere ? | 17:26 |
| matiasb | delijati, https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/4389/rev/1/ | 17:27 |
| delijati | matiasb: should be that pyc file removed ? | 17:29 |
| delijati | matiasb: lint_control_architecture_valid_contents hmm | 17:30 |
| delijati | matiasb: ok i see i have to edit the "architectures" manifest.json | 17:42 |
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| delijati | matiasb: done; thanks for your help | 17:53 |
| matiasb | delijati, there you go, I see you got it published, great :) | 17:58 |
| delijati | matiasb: first qml app :) | 17:59 |
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| peto | hi, is someone working on ROM for N7000? | 18:55 |
| peto | nobody? | 19:14 |
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| dobey | peto: at least probably nobody whom is currently on-line in this channel and has seen your question. check the xda-dev forums perhaps. we don't keep a general tally of who is working on what ports, in this channel at least. | 19:19 |
| peto | dobey: ok thanks, i have a look, but cant find nobody :) | 19:21 |
| dobey | peto: then i guess nobody is doing it. so go ahead and do it yourself. :) | 19:24 |
| peto | dobey: i dont know , whether i can to this :) | 19:26 |
| dobey | peto: the porting guide is linked in the topic | 19:28 |
| peto | dobey: must I have AOSP for the N7000? can you say me? | 19:36 |
| dobey | yes | 19:45 |
| peto | dobey: thanks | 19:49 |
| Niju | Has anyone set up Fruux for calendar/contacts on their UT? | 22:38 |
| Niju | Would I need to set up a crontab for auto syncing? | 22:39 |
| strixdio | anyone know if it is possible to chromecast netflix, youtube, and other media from ubuntu-touch? | 22:49 |
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