[01:55] what cables/dongles/adapters do i need to plug my n4 into dockmode? [02:01] k1l_: slimport mhl for the hdmi, and bt kb/mouse if you mean for the "convergence" mode when docked [02:05] hmm, dont have a bt mouse. [02:25] dobey: does it really have to be an mhl adapter? [02:26] iirc i saw some pictures with some otg cables using a usb mouse? [02:27] andywork: as opposed to what? [02:28] some new version that doesn't require external power for the adapter [02:28] k1l_: yeah, on the device afaik. i'm not sure mhl+usb are doable on the slimport. but i'm not 100% certain. [02:29] dobey: a right [02:30] eh? [02:30] "mhl slimport adapter" search on amazon shows me lots of things that don't have external power adapters [02:31] ok, then perhaps i am wrong [02:32] dobey: aren't mhl and slimport different things? I thought they were competing standards, so you'd either have an MHL adaptor or a slimport adapter depending on the device (slimport for nexus 4) [02:33] Elleo: i have no idea about that. afaik, micro usb is micro usb [02:34] i guess http://www.tested.com/tech/android/457205-mhl-vs-slimport/ answers it [02:35] i did a quick search, "SlimPort is an alternative to Mobile High Definition Link (MHL)" [02:35] Elleo: i guess the answer is "everybody really wants miracast anyway" [02:37] dobey: maybe, I'm not certain miracast will be that great for desktop style usage due to the increased latency; it's good for streaming videos and stuff to a display, but I'm not sure it'll be as good as MHL or SlimPort for more interactive usage [02:37] I'd be very happy if I'm wrong about that though [02:38] Elleo: with todays hardware or in general? [02:40] Elleo: eh, i don't know enough about all the wireless video or usb-to-whatever options to say much more about it. it's not something i'm likely to ever use anyway. i'm more interested in system integration features [02:41] k1l_: not sure, I wouldn't rule anything out in terms of improvements being made, but the primary aim of the standard was multimedia display rather than interactive use, so I doubt latency gets that much attention [02:42] ah ok [02:42] k1l_: it only takes a small amount of latency for things like mouse movements to feel really awkward [02:42] but I don't know how much can be tweaked from the ubuntu side [02:44] Elleo: well, the stereo in my truck has some thing where it can use miracast from the phone, and bluetooth, to do things. that doesn't have a mouse pointer though, just uses the stereo for the touch screen to tap on things and such [02:44] i don't know how well it works either though [02:44] but anyway [02:45] yeah, from a bit of googling it sounds like while most adapters have pretty awful latency (300ms - 3000ms) there are some very low latency ones [02:45] so it seems possible to do low latency stuff with miracast [02:45] can't do too much with my nexus 5 anyway, without bluetooth [02:46] anyway, I should get to bed :) [02:47] yeah. it's horribly cold here, so i think it's time to go bury myself for the night === jamie13 is now known as jamie12 === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [07:25] app publish is down "Service unavailable. Please try again later" === jamie13 is now known as jamie12 === ljp is now known as lpotter [09:16] hi everyone [09:49] Good evening all! Have a rotten Monday, and a terrible Opposite Day! 😃 === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr === _salem is now known as salem_ === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [11:32] hello! [11:33] is there a way to transmit the display wireless from my phone? (MX4) [11:41] zzarr: transmit? [11:48] lotuspsychje, what I meant was connect a external display over a wireless protocol [11:48] zzarr: you want to stream something from your phone to another screen over wifi? [11:51] lotuspsychje, yes, I wish to have a desktop environment on an external monitor over a wireless connection [11:52] zzarr: how about you wait for the convergence to happen? but i think that will be over cable [11:54] lotuspsychje, but if I understand it correctly convergence is coming in the next update [11:54] i think that will be in OTA9 indeed === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [11:55] sadly my phone don't have the possibility to connect an external monitor via cable [11:57] zzarr: mx4 does have an usb right? [11:57] yes, but no HDMI support [11:58] zzarr: i think some devices will be able to convergence over the usb port with adapter [11:58] zzarr: but not sure about mx4, dont shoot me ok :p [11:59] the MX4 don't have any support for MHL [11:59] (HDMI over USB) [12:00] zzarr: ah, then im not sure mate [12:00] zzarr: we soon all will know whats gonna happen on ota9 [12:00] yes [12:10] maybe Aethercast is the answer [12:10] app publish is not working anymore [12:11] delijati: file a bug or find an existing bug? [12:11] MX4 doesn't support SlimPort or MHL, so you can't connect to an external monitor via cable. But Canonical is working on a wireless solution: https://launchpad.net/aethercast [12:12] robin-hero: tnx for the info mate [12:12] np [12:12] :o [12:13] @lotuspsychje alread did [12:13] robin-hero, I knew that SlimPort and MHL don't work, but do you know if aethercast will be available in OTA-9? [12:15] zarr, certainly not, it is still in a very early stage, maybe the end of the year. but this is only a speculation, I'm not a Canonical employee [12:15] @lotuspsychje https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-portal/+bug/1537656 [12:15] Launchpad bug 1537656 in Developer registration portal "Ubuntu store upload not working" [Undecided,New] [12:16] zzarr, ^ [12:16] zzarr, There's a lot of work to do: https://plus.google.com/+PopescuSorin/posts/hjpu8q2oCMy [12:16] thanks robin-hero, but I hope I will be able to install a alpha/beta sometime === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [12:17] zzarr, I hope that so, because my main phone is a Bq Aquaris E4.5, and that also doesn't support SlimPort... [12:17] delijati: not sure mate, idle here a bit until devs awake they might know [12:18] lotuspsychje: ack [12:18] just flip the monitor 90 degree to the right ;) [12:19] look what I found https://github.com/meizuosc/m75/tree/master/mediatek/kernel/drivers/mhl/driver/mhl_tx_drv [13:01] Hello! I could use a hint on what reference to check in order to learn what to do when my main ubuntu-touch process is placed in background [13:03] BlackJohnny: what do you mean process? [13:04] lotuspsychje, I am working with the camera from my app and eventually it freezes and does not release anymore the camera an you need a reboot of the phone in order to recover from this situation [13:04] eventually, if it is placed in the background with "alt-tab" [13:05] BlackJohnny: wich phone is this? [13:05] lotuspsychje, i got the behavior on both BQ and MX4 [13:06] lotuspsychje, and it is only after a few switches [13:06] BlackJohnny: updated to ota8? [13:06] lotuspsychje, 8.5, and it is an app already on the store and some users are complaining about this behaviour [13:07] BlackJohnny: wich app? [13:07] lotuspsychje, and it is not happening so often but it is not ok [13:07] lotuspsychje, aieye [13:07] BlackJohnny: maybe file a new bug for aieye or find and existing one? [13:08] lotuspsychje, file a new bug to who? :) [13:08] BlackJohnny: check the bug link in our topic mate :p [13:09] lotuspsychje, I read that this is an architecture decision and somehow you need to take care of the state [13:09] lotuspsychje, but I dont know where is this documented [13:09] BlackJohnny: ah i see you are the writer of this app? [13:10] lotuspsychje, yes :) [13:10] cool :p [13:10] BlackJohnny: well filing a bug could be relevant for others to troubleshoot right [13:11] BlackJohnny: if an app freezes the system, we should at least know why... === Guest83 is now known as Norbell [13:11] lotuspsychje, not the entire system but it blocks the access to the camera even for the default camera app [13:12] BlackJohnny: you have the camera app enabled in system settings right? [13:12] lotuspsychje, I do [13:12] app permission camera [13:12] lotuspsychje, I will dig more into the documentation [13:13] BlackJohnny: i would file a new bug... [13:13] lotuspsychje, it is working ok most of the time :) [13:13] lotuspsychje, ok, thanks [13:13] BlackJohnny: have you tried also a reset to defaults and try aieye? [13:13] lotuspsychje, that I have not tried [13:13] BlackJohnny: as maintainer, i would advise that :p [13:14] BlackJohnny: to be sure its not solved [13:15] lotuspsychje, I will do that but I have the feeling I need to release the camera when my app is sent to background [13:15] lotuspsychje, thanks [13:16] BlackJohnny: maybe you should talk to app creators that use the camera app also? they might know [14:44] app store publish is down [14:45] delijati, how so? [14:45] looks fine [14:46] beuno: https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-portal/+bug/1537656 [14:46] Launchpad bug 1537656 in Developer registration portal "Ubuntu store upload not working" [Undecided,New] [14:46] delijati, did you try again? :) [14:47] matiasb, ^ [14:47] beuno: a minute ago [14:49] * matiasb looks [14:53] delijati, hmm... just tried here, without issues, let me check your particular case [14:53] matiasb: i try it again maybe my screenshots are to big ? [14:53] too [14:54] delijati, I think that shouldn't interfere, but maybe you can try uploading without the screenshots and adding them later [14:54] matiasb: ok i try it [14:57] matiasb: its still not working :/ [14:58] matiasb: should i try a different browser im using firefox ? [14:59] delijati, ok :-/ browser shouldn't make a difference, I'm checking if I can find anything related to your case [14:59] matiasb: ack [15:04] Hey, guys! Where should I flash the Ubuntu Touch tarball? In which folder? [15:08] Earlier I flashed it in /system library. It was 2013. But how now? [15:09] Oops... I want to say folder, not library === CheeryLee_ is now known as CheeryLee === CheeryLee is now known as CheeryLee_ === CheeryLee_ is now known as CheeryLee [15:28] Is anybody here? [15:30] delijati, afaict, it seems there is some conflict with your package version and previous uploads; I'd try to re-upload your package with an updated version number, and check if that works [15:32] Can you help me with flashing the system image? [15:37] matiasb: hmm ok but there is not app listet under https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/ -> "You have no packages." [15:57] delijati, right, you still need to upload it as a new package, but updating the version number in your package may fix the problem (from what I can check, your upload may be conflicting with a previous failed one), since upgrading the version number will process it as a completely new binary [15:58] matiasb: ahh ok thanks i give that a try [16:02] matiasb: btw. it there a more "cli" way of uploading a click app? [16:03] delijati, yes, you can take a look at click-toolbelt, https://launchpad.net/click-toolbelt [16:05] matiasb: ahh perect exactly what i was searching for :) [16:18] Is there any way to delete cookies from webbrowser-app? [16:33] I remember there was a telegram irc channel fr ubuntu cli. Is it still active? if yes whats the channelname? [16:57] !alis | matv1 [16:57] matv1: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http [16:58] matv1: seems like its ##telegram [17:01] lotuspsychje cheers :) [17:03] matiasb: i got error while using click_toolbelt i've added tickets for that .. now i try to upload it it again through the form [17:04] lotuspsychje but thats not it :( [17:05] matv1: alis doesnt give much more im affraid [17:05] matv1: ##irc-telegram and #telegram small chans [17:06] matiasb: through the form it worked now ... thanks [17:07] yeah i used my irc client to do a channel search. I supose it does the same as alis does. it gives me a bunch of results but its not there [17:07] i am sure it existed at some point [17:08] delijati, ack, great! and thank you too === n4fs is now known as n4fa [17:21] matiasb: just one more question; when can i expect my app to be published (reviewed) [17:24] delijati: if your app passes automatic review, it is usually published in a few seconds [17:25] delijati, right, it seems yours didn't pass the checks though [17:25] mcphail: ahh i see "Automated review found 1 errors and 0 warnings." [17:26] delijati: that ill need to be fixed before it can be published [17:26] *will [17:26] matiasb: can i see this error somewhere ? [17:27] delijati, https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/4389/rev/1/ [17:29] matiasb: should be that pyc file removed ? [17:30] matiasb: lint_control_architecture_valid_contents hmm [17:42] matiasb: ok i see i have to edit the "architectures" manifest.json === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [17:53] matiasb: done; thanks for your help [17:58] delijati, there you go, I see you got it published, great :) [17:59] matiasb: first qml app :) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:55] hi, is someone working on ROM for N7000? [19:14] nobody? === DanChapman is now known as DanChapman_ === DanChapman_ is now known as DanChapman [19:19] peto: at least probably nobody whom is currently on-line in this channel and has seen your question. check the xda-dev forums perhaps. we don't keep a general tally of who is working on what ports, in this channel at least. [19:21] dobey: ok thanks, i have a look, but cant find nobody :) [19:24] peto: then i guess nobody is doing it. so go ahead and do it yourself. :) [19:26] dobey: i dont know , whether i can to this :) [19:28] peto: the porting guide is linked in the topic [19:36] dobey: must I have AOSP for the N7000? can you say me? [19:45] yes [19:49] dobey: thanks [22:38] Has anyone set up Fruux for calendar/contacts on their UT? [22:39] Would I need to set up a crontab for auto syncing? [22:49] anyone know if it is possible to chromecast netflix, youtube, and other media from ubuntu-touch? === salem_ is now known as _salem