[03:22] <mgolden_> I am here to help test, a la the call on wire.kubuntu.org
[03:22] <mgolden_> What would be helpful?
[03:26] <ScottK> valorie: ^^^
[03:48] <mgolden_> ScottK, are you able to suggest some way to help?
[03:50] <ScottK> Not really.  I'm not very involved in Kubuntu development anymore.
[03:56] <mgolden_> So I heard
[03:56] <mgolden_> Glad to see you on the channel at least
[04:43] <valorie> mgolden_: have you read the /topic?
[04:43] <valorie> the PPAs are listed there for testing
[04:44] <valorie> welcome by the way
[04:48] <mgolden_> I have added the PPA and installed it
[04:48] <mgolden_> I have a number of issues I have found, most not new to 5.5.3
[04:51] <valorie> so I guess what is best to do is either file bugs or comment on bugs that are already filed
[04:51] <valorie> patches welcome if you think you know the answer to the problem, of course
[04:53] <mgolden_> Here is a question maybe you can help me with
[04:53] <mgolden_> Since using kde5, the konsole has never stayed open properly after logging out and logging in again
[04:54] <mgolden_> I am pretty sure it's crashing as a part of logging out
[04:54] <mgolden_> I have looked for a bug report for it, but haven't found one
[04:54] <mgolden_> I have a feeling it's related to some sort of interaction wth the nvidia driver
[04:54] <mgolden_> But the problem is that I can't figure out how to debug it as it only happens during a logout
[04:55] <mgolden_> During one logout I actually saw a crash reporter come up as the maching was powering down
[04:55] <mgolden_> Any ideas about how to get a hold of the appropriate hook?
[05:00] <valorie> hmmm, I don't
[05:00] <valorie> xsession errors?
[05:01] <mgolden_> Didn't see much
[05:01]  * valorie uses yakuake, and has not notices such crashes
[05:01] <mgolden_> I can try some more
[05:01] <valorie> perhaps write to the kubuntu-devel list with that question
[05:01] <mgolden_> I did
[05:01] <valorie> ok
[05:01] <valorie> I don't have nvidia, btw
[05:01] <mgolden_> I assume it's not happening to too many people
[05:02] <valorie> I haven't heard about it happening to anyone else, yeah
[05:02] <mgolden_> That's why it's so annoying!  I want to report the bug but I don't have anything useful to say!
[05:03] <valorie> I hear your pain
[05:04] <mgolden_> I will look into it more.
[05:04] <valorie> I had some random plasma crashes like that as well
[05:04] <valorie> but they have ceased
[05:04] <mgolden_> You think it's a plasma crash?
[05:05] <valorie> no, I know mine were plasma, but I never figured out the proper -dbg package to install
[05:05] <mgolden_> One other question...
[05:06] <mgolden_> I noticed before the upgrade that the apt checker would go nuts when it checked the repositories
[05:06] <mgolden_> It would spawn about 120 apt-check instances
[05:06] <mgolden_> Load average would go up to 90 or something
[05:07] <mgolden_> CPU really hot
[05:07] <mgolden_> Is that known?
[05:07] <valorie> it seems like we got one other report of that
[05:07] <valorie> unsure whether or not a bug was filed
[05:08] <mgolden_> Interesting
[05:08] <valorie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa is where the PPA bugs go
[05:08] <mgolden_> But actually this was before I added the ppa
[05:08] <valorie> so that's the best place to look
[05:08] <valorie> ah, OK
[05:08] <mgolden_> Haven't had any new packages since installing, so I don't know if it's still happening.
[05:08] <valorie> ok
[05:09] <mgolden_> Ok, well thanks for chatting
[05:09] <mgolden_> I will further look into the konsole issue.
[05:09] <valorie> hmmm, I have a few updates as of today
[05:09] <valorie> chromium etc.
[05:09] <mgolden_> Let me check now
[05:11] <mgolden_> Yep
[05:11] <mgolden_> Still happening
[05:11] <mgolden_> ps auxww | grep apt-check | wc
[05:11] <mgolden_>      56     673    6528
[05:11] <mgolden_> Was worse thna that last time
[05:11] <valorie> so perhaps file a bug about that too, mgolden_
[05:11] <mgolden_> Will do
[05:12] <valorie> easiest is in the commandline: ubuntu-bug apt
[05:12] <valorie> or apt-check
[05:12] <valorie> that way apport automatically collects info about your system
[05:13] <mgolden_> What's interesting right now is that the system tray isn't reporting any packages to install
[05:13] <mgolden_> Even though there are in some that just came in (as reported by apt-get dist-upgrade)
[05:14] <mgolden_> I will report that as well
[05:15] <valorie> cool
[05:15] <valorie> :-)
[05:16] <mgolden_> OK, thanks for chatting
[05:16] <valorie> I have the opposite, btw, the updater says I have packages to update even though I've already updated them
[05:16] <mgolden_> That always used to happen in 15.10
[05:16] <mgolden_> It never updated so far as I saw.
[05:17] <mgolden_> I hope all these things can be cleaned up before 16.04!
[05:20] <valorie> it worked better for awhile
[05:20] <valorie> and looks better
[05:20] <valorie> but I'm filing a bug at bko
[05:21] <mgolden_> bko?
[05:22] <valorie> bugs.kde.org
[05:23] <valorie> ok, going afk for a bit
[05:23] <valorie> thanks again for testing, mgolden_
[05:25] <mgolden_> Thanks
[05:25] <mgolden_> Bye.  Time for bed!
[08:56] <flexiondotorg> Are Kubuntu interested in participating in 16.04 Alpha 2?
[08:56] <lordievader> yofel: ^
[09:18] <yofel> flexiondotorg: no, we won't get anything into the archive this week that would make it worth it
[09:20] <flexiondotorg> yofel, Thanks.
[09:35] <vip> hello
[09:57] <lordievader> yofel: Hmm, too bad. We are going to do beta 1 I hope?
[10:00] <yofel> I hope too, but I'm starting to cut down by todo list. Lets see how much time I'll have from next week on
[10:04] <aseques> hi all, just upgraded willy kde backports and everything went perfect, I wanted you to know, thanks :D
[10:05] <yofel> :)
[10:10] <lordievader> yofel: Good luck!
[11:18] <yofel> anyone that wants to look at lp 1538090 ?
[12:05] <clivejo> yofel: RE: LP:1538098 its in my PPA, should be for vivid, wily, xenial
[12:06] <yofel> thanks, that's why I changed the status to triaged. I just filed the bug so we don't forget about it
[12:07] <clivejo> feedback seems to be ok, no major issues
[12:07] <clivejo> only upstream ones
[12:08] <yofel> right, the packaging review and upload are all that's left, but no idea when someone will get to it
[12:11] <clivejo> ok, let me know if I need to do anything further
[12:11] <snele> seems that today is release day for plasma 5.5.4
[12:12] <yofel> it is indeed. But no mail so far
[12:15] <clivejo> yofel: can I look at kdevelop later?
[12:15] <clivejo> or is someone assigned to this?
[12:17] <yofel> not that I know of. The trello item was unassigned, and I only filed the bug today
[12:20] <yofel> you will probably want to merge with debian first, they have 4.7.2.
[12:21] <yofel> might be worth it even if the qt5 port will probably require a bunch of packaging changes
[12:21] <yofel> you'll also need to update a bunch of other things, see the email
[12:22] <yofel> clivejo: if you do work on it, please assign yourself to the bug and mark it in-progress
[12:22] <yofel> just so that others know that
[12:36] <soee> Riddell: are you releaseing 5.5.4 today ?
[12:37] <Riddell> hopefully
[12:37] <soee> some blockers ?
[12:37] <Riddell> I'm in a training session so I need to work around it
[12:37] <soee> ah ok :)
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:04] <mparillo> Was Okular removed from Xenial with the -staging PPA?
[13:12] <acher88> mparillo: did have some dependency probs on one install that wanted to remove okular. I worked around it somehow..
[13:13] <mparillo> OK, I tested and on Xenial with no PPAs, Okular is still there. So the dependency problems must be on the -staging PPA.
[13:14] <mparillo> And thank you acher88
[13:14] <BluesKaj> okular is gone here on xenial, and i'm not using the staging ppa
[13:15] <acher88> was perhaps related to the QCA2 update?
[13:16] <acher88> that was to the main xenial archive
[13:16] <BluesKaj> but I am usinh ci/stable and landing ppa
[13:16] <BluesKaj> using
[13:17] <acher88> this was what I go at the time on xenial: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14515584/
[13:19] <acher88> so think it was that libqca2-plugins update in my case?
[13:21] <mparillo> Sorry, I wrote staging, and I meant ppa-landing
[13:21] <BluesKaj> I didn't have okular either, but I just installed it without errors or dependency problems
[13:22] <BluesKaj> mparillo, ok that explains it then
[13:22] <acher88> the dodgy libqca2 upload was fixed a short while later I think
[13:22] <acher88> so should be ok now
[13:26] <mparillo> TY, Okular installed cleanly.  I might have to re-boot to get it to be the default again for opening PDFs.
[13:28] <BluesKaj> yes I just had to set the "open with" option with the pdf file I checked it on
[13:35] <mparillo> BluesKaj: you are correct. In fact, it seems as if krunner did not immediately recognize Okular (it did not auto-complete) and I cannot find it in any of the kicker categories.
[13:36] <BluesKaj> mparillo, maybe a reboot will place okular bck in the kicker 
[13:44] <mparillo> This was after a re-boot. Normally (either in krunner or in the kicker), once I start typing a program name, it autocompletes. Not so for Okular. I have to type the entire name.
[14:52] <BluesKaj> mparillo, ok I rebooted and okular is now located in kmenu>graphics 
[14:53] <BluesKaj> kmenu>apps>graphics, to be precise
[15:25] <mparillo> TY., I will try
[15:28] <mparillo> Nope, not for me. Maybe I need a fresh install, but is the installer bug still open? I was planning to try for Alpha 2, but it looks like we won't need one.
[15:33] <BluesKaj> trying to setup samba share on my /home folder, but when I choose "apply changes to subfolders and contents" the progress dialog errors out with "Access denied to /home/kaj/.nano" then dolphin crashes and I see this error in /var/log/syslog: Desk-Xenial org.kde.KScreen[1315]: message repeated 23 times: [ kscreen: Primary output changed from KScreen::Output(Id: 590 , Name: "DVI-I-1" ) ( "DVI-I-1" ) to KScreen::Output(Id: 590 , Name: "DVI-I-1" )
[15:33] <BluesKaj>  ( "DVI-I-1" )] ...this error repeats several times due to the daemon trying to apply the changes
[15:36] <BluesKaj> oh great, now have the cut, copy paste dialog stuck open on every activity and desktop
[15:36] <BluesKaj> ok reboot
[15:59] <clivejo> I downgraded to the kdeconnect-plasma version in xenial archive, rebooted and kdeconnectd is using over 3Gb of memory and had to be killed.  anyone seen this? 
[16:14] <BluesKaj> clivejo, kdeconnect using about 90k memory here 
[16:14] <BluesKaj> but no multimedia or files transferring
[16:15] <clivejo> BluesKaj: which version?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> 4.2 
[16:16] <clivejo> of kdeconnect
[16:17] <BluesKaj> 0.8 on the pc
[16:17] <clivejo> !info kdeconnect-plasma xenial
[16:17] <clivejo> this one?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> no I have the repos version
[16:20] <BluesKaj> ok yes the same plasma version
[16:50] <clivejo> how do I get ksnapshot working again?
[16:52] <clivejo> !info spectacle xenial
[17:04] <yofel> clivejo: what's broken?
[17:05] <yofel> the 2015 version should work fine
[17:51] <nicols> hello!
[18:07] <shadeslayer> oh look
[18:07] <shadeslayer> I have deb822 sources.lists
[18:10] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14673467/
[18:12] <yofel> that's in xenial?
[18:13] <shadeslayer> look at the pastebin :P
[18:13] <shadeslayer> wily
[18:14] <yofel> brain shutdown
[18:14] <yofel> cool thing nonetheless
[18:16] <shadeslayer> :D
[18:16] <shadeslayer> yofel: you need APT::Sources::Use-Deb822 true
[18:16] <yofel> thanks, I'll try that out later :)
[18:18] <shadeslayer> cheers
[18:38] <wxl> does anyone know about how to save a panel? i want to have it in the "add panel" selection instead of default or empty or even replace the default with this one
[18:38] <wxl> fwiw i've asked several times at #kubuntu and received zero response (over the past week or so)
[19:01] <acher88> wxl: never tried it, so can't say if it works easily, but something like? https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=124840
[19:25] <wxl> acher88: thanks for the tip. that's helpful. is there api documentation somewhere?
[21:53] <clivejo> Plasma 5.5.4 is out 
[21:53] <clivejo> where is soee ??!?
[21:53] <clivejo> isnt this his job
[21:55] <acher88> much fixed?
[21:55]  * acher88 goes to have a look
[22:06] <clivejo> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.5.3-5.5.4-changelog.php
[23:14] <ubernoob> hey guys, while upgrading distros, the installer crashed during the linux header install, now the package will not install or uninstall and i can't boot up normally. ideas on a fix?
[23:15] <valorie> ubernoob: this isn't the right channel for support, however: try `sudo apt install -f`
[23:15] <valorie> f=fix
[23:16] <ubernoob> alright thank you, ill try that and then redirect to another channel
[23:16] <valorie> try in any terminal, control + alt + f2 - f5 or so
[23:17] <valorie> control + alt + f6 or f7 to get back to the gui
[23:17] <valorie> or experiement
[23:17] <valorie> yes, support in #kubuntu