EffectCausehi there01:01
ianorlinhi EffectCause any way I can help?01:02
EffectCauseYeah, I'm trying to get my computer to run faster01:02
EffectCauseI installed lubuntu on this old thinkpad edge01:02
EffectCauseit's running okay, but wanted to know if there's anything i can do to make it faster01:02
ianorlinwhat are the specs of it01:02
EffectCausei have f.lux on. do you think it significantly slows it down?01:03
EffectCausei have no idea mate, i'm not great with computers xD01:03
ianorlinI have not used it that much I don't think flux would slow down that much unless you were doing graphically intensive stuff01:03
EffectCausei'm redditing and using canva.com01:04
wxlcanva might be hogging up all your resources01:04
wxli'd maximize your ram01:04
ianorlinwell web browsers keep using more and more ram01:04
EffectCausewhere can i download more ram??01:04
wxlwell, it's really the webapps, ianorlin01:04
wxlEffectCause: um, from the store. try newegg. XD01:04
EffectCausei used to install ram via CDs but i prefer the modern digital downloads now01:05
EffectCausei heard steam is going to start selling ram01:05
EffectCausei can trade my tf2 keys for some01:05
wxli think you're confused about ram01:05
EffectCausehat prices are going to go waaay up01:05
EffectCausewxl, i can sell you some if you like01:05
EffectCauseill email it to you01:06
wxlEffectCause: nope.01:06
EffectCausehow many rams you want? 1? 2?01:06
* wxl starts walking towards the door01:06
EffectCausei have a particular woolly one that i can throw in01:06
ianorlin193 rams?01:06
EffectCausehis name's stevbert01:06
EffectCauseianorlin, who do you think i am, king of rams?!01:07
EffectCausejeez, people these days01:07
EffectCauseAnyway, being serious once again01:07
EffectCauseHow can I maximize my ram?01:08
EffectCauseCanva is one of the only things I do on the computer so I'd like to continue using it01:08
EffectCauseCurrently, it's a little slow, but not unusable.01:08
wxlEffectCause: you can find out how much memory your computer can handle and then you can purchase the physical RAM and install it into your physical computer01:09
EffectCauseoh, i don't know if it's worth doing that01:09
EffectCausejust an old laptop01:09
EffectCausei was wondering if there is anything free i could do01:09
EffectCausesoftware wise01:09
wxlEffectCause: there's not a lot of services running around in the background that you would want to get rid of, no.01:09
wxlEffectCause: just don't run anything else but your browser and limit your tabs as much as humanly possible.01:09
EffectCausewell, in that case01:09
ianorlinhow would inkscape run compared to canva in ram useage01:10
EffectCausehm, not sure01:10
EffectCausenever tried inkscape01:10
wxlprobably a lot better01:10
EffectCauseis it software or browser?01:10
wxlanything web-based is generally hogging up a lot of resources01:10
ianorlinin the repos01:10
wxlwhich is the problem i have with the whole chromebook thing01:10
wxl!info inkspace01:10
ubottuPackage inkspace does not exist in wily01:10
wxl!info inkscape01:10
ubottuinkscape (source: inkscape): vector-based drawing program. In component main, is optional. Version 0.91-5ubuntu2 (wily), package size 12604 kB, installed size 81712 kB01:10
EffectCauseahh, that would be great01:10
EffectCausei'm running the newest lts version currently01:10
wxlin that case01:10
wxl!info inkscape trusty01:10
EffectCausei think 14.04, right?01:10
ubottuinkscape (source: inkscape): vector-based drawing program. In component main, is optional. Version 0.48.4-3ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 9440 kB, installed size 60648 kB01:10
wxltl;dr sudo apt -y install inkscape01:11
EffectCausethat's all i have to enter into terminal?01:11
wxlinkscape does have a bit of a learning curve, though01:11
wxlEffectCause: yeah or you could install it with synaptic or lubuntu software center or whatever. it's all the same01:12
EffectCauseby the way, what is the latest lts release?01:12
wxlEffectCause: oh you might also try increasing your swap01:12
ubottuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info01:12
wxlnext lts is xenial xerus 16.04 coming in april01:12
ubottuUbuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) will be the 24th release of Ubuntu. Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1479 - Discussion in #ubuntu+101:12
EffectCausehow will i update it to 16.04?01:13
EffectCausedo i have to do complete reinstall or is there something i can just click to update?01:13
ianorlinit will update lts to lts I think but backup first01:13
wxlEffectCause: it should ask you when it's out. alternately you can use the do-release-upgrade command01:13
wxlEffectCause: re-installs are not necessary01:13
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade01:14
EffectCausewhere will it ask me?01:15
wxlread links :)01:15
EffectCauseokay, thanks01:16
EffectCauseis there a way i can update all software on computer?01:16
EffectCausefirefox, system apps, inkscape01:16
EffectCauserather than doing all individually01:16
EffectCauseoh, and theme from ravefinity01:16
wxlsudo apt-get update && sudo apt -y upgrade01:16
EffectCausethat does everything?01:16
wxlor if you want to live a little bit on the edge, you can use dist-upgrade but that will also remove packages that have been removed from the repos or dependencies01:17
wxlwhich may not be preferable01:17
EffectCauseoh okay01:17
wxl*I* prefer it, but the choice is yours01:17
EffectCausei don't want to live on the edge at all01:17
wxlI should have said "the edge" because there's nothing about LTS that's on the edge XD01:17
EffectCausewhat's the benefit of dist-upgrade?01:17
ubottuA dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.01:18
EffectCauseso a regular upgrade through sudo apt-get update && sudo apt -y upgrade  keeps old packages?01:18
EffectCauseis there any software like ccleaner that i can use to clear old packages easily?01:19
EffectCausei can see that that could end up bogging down computer01:19
ianorlinEffectCause: it doesn't really it just uses disk space01:19
wxlyou can use sudo apt-get autoremove01:20
wxlwhich will get rid of unneeded dependencies01:20
wxlor sudo apt-get autoclean01:20
wxlwhich will get rid of downloaded files that aren't necessary01:20
wxli usually update/dist-upgrade/autoremove/autoclean regularly. it's a little unnecessary, but it doesn't hurt, either.01:20
EffectCauseoh okay01:21
EffectCausewhat's the latest version of firefox available for lubuntu? do you recommend the version it came with (20 something) or the latest?01:21
wxlin general linux is pretty good about taking care of itself01:22
wxlyou mean the latest for trusty01:22
wxl!info firefox trusty01:22
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 43.0.4+build3-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 (trusty), package size 43529 kB, installed size 98558 kB01:22
ianorlindist-upgrade will get you latest stable for trusty01:22
ianorlinor upgrade01:22
wxlas you can see it's 43 something01:22
ianorlinI usally update after installing01:22
wxlyou can see what you have with `apt-cache policy firefox | grep Installed`01:22
wxlnote you don't have to sudo apt-cache functions01:22
wxlas far as browsers are concerned, i always recommend the absolute latest01:23
wxlwell, not absolute01:23
wxlunstable is not good for everyone (though i tend to run on it, even at work)01:23
EffectCausewhat's the difference between sudo apt-get update && sudo apt -y upgrade  and dist-upgrade?01:30
ubottuA dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.01:30
EffectCauseso dist-upgrade is better?01:31
wxli think so, but some people may be concerned that they might lose something01:31
EffectCausewhat could you lose?01:31
wxlif you do an upgrade and some package has removed a dependency, it will stay around, but dist-upgrade could get rid of it01:31
wxli have NEVER seen this to be an issue, but it's a better safe than sorry kind of thing01:32
wxlread that askubuntu link i gave above for some more insight on the subject01:32
EffectCausealright, cool01:32
ianorlinthing is I run dist-upgrade but don't -y so it asks me and I know enought to see what it is removing01:32
EffectCauseso, with lubuntu, will i ever have to do any ccleaner type thing?01:32
wxlthere's regular cron jobs that clean out the cruft01:33
EffectCauseit does it automatically?01:33
wxlyep :)01:33
wxllinux is a work of art :)01:33
EffectCausei'm so lost honestly01:33
EffectCausei know nothing about computers01:33
EffectCausehey, does anyone here do graphic design?01:36
EffectCausethanks so much everyone01:39
EffectCauseappreciate it01:39
wxlnp EffectCause01:39
wxlhave fun and enjoy the linux :)01:39
wxlthere's a resource to help train you in linux should you want to take the effort: linuxpadawan.net01:39
ianorlinand then he left ...01:39
libbenFresh install of Lubuntu 15.10 x86 version. Installed a couple of packages, set up wifi, not much else. That was this morning, now any option I pick to boot it results in near-immediate shutdown of the machine. What can I do to troubleshoot?03:34
libbenWhen I say near-immediate, I mean I click the option I want to boot from grub, it starts to load components, then winks out within seconds, not even getting me to the login manager.03:35
ianorlinlibben: this could be a graphics problem03:57
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution03:57
libbenianorlin: I am attempting a reinstall. I will note if the problem persists after a fresh installation.l04:07
wfreemanHi all. I'm running Lubuntu on a laptop with a touchscreen. When I close the lid, the touchscreen doesn't turn off, so the computer registers all sorts of spurious touch events. Is there any way to trigger a script when the lid is closed/opened so I can disable and reenable the touchscreen? Is there some other way to fix this?05:33
wfreemanAnd a second question: is there any command that forces the computer to reevaluate the window positions when the size of the virtual desktop changes (i.e. when an external monitor is disconnected)05:35
NOOBUnit193: I added the vlc ppa from here https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/master-daily but I think i have a ppa config issue as i cannot see any version beyond 2.1.612:11
NOOBhow do i see what ppa is controlling?  and override it to get the vlc master to be in control12:16
hateballNOOB: apt-cache policy <package>12:19
NOOBhateball: great12:20
NOOBhow i change that to use the one i want?12:21
NOOB  Installed: 2.1.6-0ubuntu14.04.112:22
NOOB  Candidate: 2.1.6-0ubuntu14.04.112:22
NOOB  Version table:12:22
NOOB *** 2.1.6-0ubuntu14.04.1 012:22
NOOB        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/universe amd64 Packages12:22
NOOBhateball: how do i force apt to use the ppa i want?12:29
PapaPatternHow can I change the keyboard language?12:32
PapaPatternIt's a UK keyboard but currently on American12:32
hateballNOOB: are those the only ones listed or did you get cut off?12:47
hateball!paste | NOOB12:47
ubottuNOOB: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:47
NOOBhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/14671526/  again sorry for the flood.  the fingers were faster than the brain hateball12:48
hateballNOOB: that lists no PPA12:48
hateballNOOB: how did you add the PPA? and did you apt-get update afterwards?12:49
NOOBya.  it is listed in synaptic12:49
NOOBi added with the commands listed on https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/master-daily12:49
hateballNOOB: how about... "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?12:52
NOOByep yep12:52
NOOBwait.  doing that now12:52
hateballNOOB: and where it says "YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE" you put "trusty", right?12:53
NOOByaya.  if you set the drop dwn it changes it12:54
hateballNOOB: did you use "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:videolan/master-daily" or did you edit sources manually?12:54
hateballbecause it looks like it isnt picking it up as it should12:55
NOOBi used sudo apt-add-repository hate.  and i see it in synaptic12:55
NOOBdoing the upgrade now12:55
NOOB"0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."12:56
tsimonq2NOOB: Can we have the output of your sources.list and any file in your sources.list.d folder put into a pastebin? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com12:58
NOOBhow do i get that for you?12:58
tsimonq2NOOB: oh wait, NVM, use sudo apt install vlc=VERSION12:58
tsimonq2NOOB: that should install it from that PPA12:59
tsimonq2NOOB: use the version you got from apt-cache policy13:00
tsimonq2NOOB: for example, "sudo apt install vlc=2.1.6-0ubuntu14.04.1"13:00
tsimonq2!info vlc trusty13:00
ubottuvlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.6-0ubuntu14.04.1 (trusty), package size 1170 kB, installed size 3604 kB13:00
hateballProblem is it's not showing anything newer13:01
tsimonq2NOOB: that's the version in Trusty, and this is the one you are running. What's the PPA you are trying to add?13:01
tsimonq2oh I see13:01
tsimonq2NOOB: do the following command, "sudo apt -y install pastebinit && ls -R /etc/apt/ | pastebinit"13:02
NOOBhttps://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/master-daily  is what i added13:02
tsimonq2NOOB: also, do sudo apt install PACKAGE=VERSION, not just sudo apt install VERSION13:03
tsimonq2NOOB: and I need the output URL from that command13:03
tsimonq2NOOB: I see, one sec13:07
hateballheh, both a stable and daily ppa for vlc13:07
tsimonq2NOOB: now I need, "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/videolan* | pastebinit"13:08
NOOBum http://paste.ubuntu.com/14671576/ shows line 96-99 two different sources13:10
NOOBshold i remove stable13:10
tsimonq2NOOB: now please do, "sudo apt update | pastebinit && sudo apt -y dist-upgrade | pastebinit", this should produce 2 URLs, I need them both13:10
NOOBtsimonq2: WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface yet. Use with caution in scripts.  and its doing a thing.  one sec13:11
tsimonq2NOOB: that's normal and doesn't affect anything13:12
NOOBhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/14671604/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/14671605/13:12
tewardFYI that PPA won't work13:13
tewardit has build failures13:13
tewardso you won't be getting that version because there's none published because it failed to build13:13
tsimonq2teward: I JUST spotted that, thanks for confirming teward :)13:13
tsimonq2NOOB: so you will just have to wait until the builds succeed, I'll look into why it isn't building and report it to someone13:14
NOOBis there a source for 2.1.213:14
NOOBum i ment 2.2.113:15
NOOBcan that ppa give last good build?13:17
tewardNOOB: when a new version is uploaded, as I understand it, it supersedes the old version which gets remove13:18
tsimonq2N let me look into that quick...13:18
tewardso i don't believe so because it'd show up in apt-cache policy13:18
NOOBcan i force last good build?13:19
NOOBcause once i get it then it will auto update at some point13:19
tsimonq2NOOB: is this essential? if not, it is best to wait13:19
NOOBits a computer.  nothing is essential13:20
NOOBI was asking to learn13:20
NOOBAlso i think you all for your time13:20
tsimonq2NOOB: stick around and I'll let you know about the build'13:20
tsimonq2so here is the build log, what I will be looking into: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/220948944/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-i386.vlc_3.0.0~~git20151011+r62044+34+35~ubuntu14.04.1_BUILDING.txt.gz13:21
NOOBi have a question  what does this mean "W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 09589874801DF724W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 09589874801DF724"13:23
NOOBdo we all get that error13:24
tsimonq2NOOB: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13065/how-do-i-fix-the-gpg-error-no-pubkey13:25
tsimonq2NOOB: look at the SECOND answer13:25
oskarPLEASE HELP13:26
tsimonq2NOOB: at this point the failure is up to the Videolan team, they need to be the ones to fix it as I don't have access to the PPA13:26
tsimonq2!help | oskar13:26
ubottuoskar: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:26
tsimonq2oskar: and please don't shout :)13:26
oskarAll the text on as NM All the text on my entire laptop has gone crazy13:26
oskarOn my entire laptop13:26
tsimonq2oskar: you try restarting?13:27
oskarI don't want it too happen again13:27
oskarI'll restart now13:27
NOOBit will never happen again if you don't turn it on13:28
tsimonq2^ :D13:28
oskarHere's pics13:29
NOOBtsimonq2: that fixed that gpg error.  thanks13:33
damascenetsimonq2, do you know what is the plugin used for your bot to direct question to some user using the pipe?13:33
tsimonq2damascene: which bot? I have multiple on Github :D13:34
tsimonq2damascene: and a question about my bot can go to ##tsimonq2 :)13:35
tsimonq2oskar: to be completely honest, I think it's a graphics card issue. I have this same problem and I have never found out how to fix it...really sorry13:36
damascene!help |damascene13:37
ubottudamascene, please see my private message13:37
fontmanhey there13:41
fontmanhow do i install fonts to lubuntu?13:41
fontmani have the .ttf files13:41
NOOBfontman:  will you let me know if this helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2027331  ?13:43
fontmanalt+f2 doesnt do anything for me13:44
damascenesome people says you just put it in .fonts in you home?13:45
fontmanin home folder?13:45
damasceneyes in .fonts13:46
fontmanwhere's .fonts?13:47
fontmando i have to make the folder?13:47
damascenefrom GUI right click on an empty space and create new folder. or you you can do this command in terminal: mkdir ~/.fonts13:48
fontmanwhat next? :)13:50
NOOBidrop you fonts there?13:50
damascenetry to run any software that shows up the fonts available?13:50
fontmanwait, it worked!13:51
fontmanthank you so much!13:51
damasceneglad to hear that13:51
NOOByes i am13:51
NOOBtsimonq2: i have a question about https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/master-daily/+builds?build_state=built14:13
tsimonq2NOOB: but not trusty :)14:14
NOOBit seems there are no successful ubuntu 14 builds14:14
NOOBlol ya14:14
NOOBso, it waiting useless14:14
tsimonq2NOOB: the version scheme goes, 14.04, 14.10, 15.04, 15.10, 16.04, 16.10, etc.14:14
tsimonq2well unless you contact the videolan team14:15
AmigoHey everyone!15:27
AmigoI'm trying to install flash player15:27
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redwolfhello TuAmigo15:27
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UnAmigoHello, my friend!15:28
UnAmigoHow can I install flash player?15:28
redwolfopen a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree"15:28
tewardredwolf: thought that needed Chrome to work?15:28
redwolfyes for embedded videos not converted to HTML5 (it may depends on sites)15:29
redwolfwhat version do you use?15:29
UnAmigoWill installing flash player slow down my computer?15:29
redwolffor older versions you can use "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"15:29
tewardUnAmigo: installing it won't slow down your system, but running Flash content on webpages, etc. may slow down your system15:30
redwolfor easier, open the Lubuntu Software Center and look for "flash" :)15:30
UnAmigoIt's right there!15:36
UnAmigoSorry, I should have checked before asking you15:36
redwolfperfect! :D15:37
redwolfdon't worry, and ask whatever you need :)15:38
NOOBtsimonq2: I ccontacted an admin on the videolan team.  they seem to think its a ubuntu multimedia team issue15:46
NOOBdo you have any thoughts for me15:46
UnAmigoyou're great, dude15:48
NOOBi know.  but thanks....15:48
UnAmigois NOOB a bot?15:49
NOOBi got the body of a bot.  Hard and steely15:50
MeatHammerwhere are xpad's notes kept and can I just file transfer them to a new user / debian?16:11
redwolfMeatHammer, notes are stored in ~/.config/xpad folder16:14
redwolfMeatHammer, after restoring your Home folder, open a new Note. Now, right click on the new Note, then click on Notes > Show All. It should retrieve all of your Notes.16:15
MeatHammerty redwolf16:23
redwolfyou're welcome :)16:23
MeatHammerredwolf: can I load differebt sets of notes this way? by moving and replacing these files? I'm basically trying to merge several different xpad notes into one..?16:24
redwolfactually you can, but you'll have to do it manually16:25
redwolfas they're not encoded or something, just plain text stored in files16:25
redwolfnot a very complicated app :)16:25
redwolfnor databases either16:25
MeatHammerkk so I load these different sets of files and cut and paste them back in using an intermediary like leafpad or something? or just keep them in the copy buffer?16:26
redwolftheorically... yes. copy and paste should work.16:28
redwolfbut I never tried that :D16:28
LocutusOfBorgNOOB, let me see your issue16:30
redwolfsorry, LocutusOfBorg?16:31
NOOBLocutusOfBorg:  https://code.launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/master-daily/+packages the builds fail.  i added the PPA and get no joy16:32
LocutusOfBorgI know16:32
LocutusOfBorgI already know16:32
NOOBoh, you weere tell me you are looking at it.  i misunderstood, and thought you were asking to see it again.16:33
LocutusOfBorgI read everything16:34
LocutusOfBorg$somebody told me there was a vlc issue :)16:34
NOOBI want to know how to read everything...16:37
LocutusOfBorg"I just read everything"16:38
LocutusOfBorgthat was the meaning16:38
NOOBI intended to make humor on the idea of reading everything.  no offence intended16:40
LocutusOfBorglol :)16:41
NOOBplease dont borg-i-fy me16:41
NOOBdoes this help ?16:43
NOOBno it does not i think16:47
NOOBLocutusOfBorg: any updates?  or hope?  leave me with hope.....16:57
LocutusOfBorgNOOB, I'm rebuilding ffmpeg with a special backport to trusty17:04
LocutusOfBorgif the build goes fine, I'll try to rebuild vlc on top of it17:05
LocutusOfBorgand then test it17:05
LocutusOfBorgit will take a while17:05
NOOBI will wait for you for the rest of my life17:05
LocutusOfBorgI had to rebuild two dependencies in my ppa, to avoid breaking the official master-daily one17:05
NOOBbut we both agree that getting the officcial ppa working is better right?17:06
LocutusOfBorgif I can get the private one sure17:06
LocutusOfBorgI don't like to upload stuff in a commonly used ppa without testing17:07
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LocutusOfBorghi, seems that you have to upgrade from trusty to vivid or somewhat newer to have vlc18:06
LocutusOfBorgNOOB, I can't backport new packages because of a libgnutls transition18:06
LocutusOfBorgyou migjt want to use vlc 2.2.0 from here https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/stable-daily/+packages18:06
NOOBi should prolly just run lubuntu 1518:09
NOOBLocutusOfBorg: are you saying that it can never be backported?  and 3.0 will be impossible too?18:10
LocutusOfBorgI might try to wrkaround the libgnutls28 problem, but it might be painful and not worth the effort18:10
NOOBi hate reformatting18:11
NOOBthank you very much LocutusOfBorg .  still the 3.0 ppa is broken.18:12
LocutusOfBorgI deleted the package from there18:12

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