| keithzg | bob2021: That's interesting, I would have thought at very least it would give the "Run google-chome" option since it's a valid command. Hmm. | 00:00 |
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| keithzg | bob2021: Do you have /usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop ? | 00:03 |
| bob2021 | keithzg yes that's there | 00:06 |
| keithzg | bob2021: Ostensibly, KDE should be reading that. | 00:14 |
| keithzg | Have you restarted your session since you've installed Chrome? | 00:14 |
| bob2021 | keithzg: yes | 00:15 |
| keithzg | bob2021: In a terminal, does "locate google-chrome.desktop" return any results other than that? | 00:16 |
| bob2021 | keithzg: yeah, one in ~/.local/share... | 00:17 |
| keithzg | bob2021: I'd run a diff between that one and the /usr/share/applications one; differences between them could be screwing things up. Might even be worth just removing the ~/.local/share one and seeing if that solves things. | 00:18 |
| bob2021 | keithz: looking in ~/.local/share, there are a lot of chrome- entries as well and one Chrome.desktop | 00:18 |
| bob2021 | keithz: do i need to do anything for kde to re-read the DIR? | 00:18 |
| valorie | you can always `mv ~/.local/share/whatever ~/.local/share/whatever.bak | 00:19 |
| keithzg | It should automatically do that upon starting a new session, I *think*. There's probably a way to re-run the scraping manually, though; the "xdg-desktop-menu" command should do that, not entirely sure if KDE uses only that or does additional indexing of some kind. | 00:20 |
| valorie | from if you logout and do it from a terminal | 00:20 |
| bob2021 | keithzg & valorie: looking in the one in .local, it was installed by Unity. Should i just kill it? | 00:20 |
| valorie | mv is always safer | 00:20 |
| valorie | since that way you can mv it back | 00:21 |
| bob2021 | yup! that did it, thanks guys, as soon as i moved the one Unity installed, it started working | 00:22 |
| bob2021 | ok... next issue -- linux thinks my apple Magic Trackpad 2 is a tablet or a mouse, and its not using the Synaptics driver, which disables multi-touch and gestures. | 00:23 |
| bob2021 | how can i force it to think of the trackpad as a touchpad? | 00:23 |
| valorie | might do to look at the synaptics driver rc file or so | 00:26 |
| valorie | either in .local or in .config | 00:26 |
| valorie | what version of kubuntu are you runnin, bob2021? | 00:27 |
| valorie | running | 00:27 |
| valorie | because in kde4 days, that would be ~/.kde/share/config probably | 00:27 |
| bob2021 | valorie: i started with ubuntu 15.10 and installed kde desktop yesterday. so, yesterday's version | 00:28 |
| valorie | ok, forget the .kde then | 00:29 |
| valorie | it's all in ~/.local or ~/.config now | 00:29 |
| valorie | and if you find an old conflicting file in .kde, blow it away | 00:29 |
| bob2021 | valorie i'd think it has to do with hci and udev | 00:30 |
| valorie | ok, I don't know anything about that | 00:31 |
| valorie | !touchpad | 00:31 |
| ubottu | For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad | 00:31 |
| valorie | best I got | 00:31 |
| valorie | good old ubottu | 00:31 |
| bob2021 | yeah tried that | 00:32 |
| valorie | :( | 00:33 |
| bob2021 | oh wow its not getting any sound either | 00:46 |
| bob2021 | not seeing the sound card | 00:46 |
| valorie | we've had reports that for some reason, some users were removed from the Sound group | 00:49 |
| valorie | once added back in, all was well | 00:49 |
| valorie | I think that's how the fix went.... | 00:49 |
| bob2021 | valorie: you mean in /etc/group? I don't even have a sound group | 00:50 |
| valorie | audio group I should have said | 00:50 |
| valorie | user management has the groups I believe, in systemsettings | 00:50 |
| bob2021 | valorie you're right i'm not there, should i be? | 00:51 |
| valorie | oops, dinner time | 00:51 |
| valorie | yes, you should | 00:51 |
| bob2021 | anything else i need to be added to? | 01:00 |
| bob2021 | lightdm? | 01:00 |
| bob2021 | pulse? | 01:00 |
| bob2021 | valorie: is there a way to see if this works without rebooting or logging out? | 01:03 |
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| bob2021 | can anyone tell me how to restart audio? | 01:27 |
| frogonwheels_ | bob2021: you probably want to logout | 01:58 |
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| frogonwheels | bob2021: groups are a bit funny like that. | 01:59 |
| bob2021 | frogonwheel: if i logout, then processes running inside of screen will terminate, right? | 01:59 |
| frogonwheels | bob2021: you mean 'screen' program? Just detach the screen session and reattach later | 01:59 |
| frogonwheels | bob2021: or do you mean just on the display.. yeah.. they will stop. | 01:59 |
| bob2021 | frogonwheels yes. if i logout completely though, won't they terminate if detached? | 02:00 |
| frogonwheels | bob2021: if you reboot they will. but if you just logout, why should they? | 02:00 |
| bob2021 | because the parent process terminated? ok i guess i can try it | 02:01 |
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| bob2021 | ok here goes... | 02:07 |
| em | Sometimes when I turn on my laptop I see this error on the black screen before it goes to the KDE GUI --- ".... *ERROR* The master control interrupt lied (SDE)!" | 02:22 |
| em | what does it mean? | 02:22 |
| em | could it be the root cause of my other buggy experiences with Kubuntu? | 02:22 |
| bob2021 | hey - can someone help me get my sound working? i just tried logging in and out after adding myself to the audio group,a nd still nothing | 02:43 |
| bob2021 | all the working audio cards are greyed-out and the only one not greyed out is the "dummy" | 02:43 |
| bob2021 | i take that back - now i see the cards in "Audio Hardware Setup" but not in "Device Preference" | 02:48 |
| kroot_ | hi@all | 02:55 |
| bob2021 | my sound still isnt working :( | 04:00 |
| bob2021 | will someone help me? i feel like i'm deaf | 04:00 |
| bob2021 | hey? | 04:42 |
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| buriedalive | bob2021 I'm alive :) | 04:52 |
| bob2021 | but buried, sadly | 04:56 |
| bob2021 | anyway, i have no sound??? | 04:56 |
| buriedalive | bob2021 what is ur distro? | 04:57 |
| bob2021 | ubuntu 15.10 with kde desktop installed on top | 05:01 |
| buriedalive | I'm more than about 14.04 dont know, sorry | 05:02 |
| buriedalive | 15.10 never installed | 05:03 |
| bob2021 | buriedalive well nevertheless you may be able to help | 05:03 |
| bob2021 | the sound cards all show up in "Phonon Audio and Video", but all the ones that work are greyed out, and only Dummy Output is selectable | 05:04 |
| buriedalive | maybe ull try remove all filesand folders, associated with soundserver pulseaudio? for example - ~/.pulse, ~/.pulse-cookie, ~/.config/pulse | 05:09 |
| buriedalive | and restart? | 05:09 |
| buriedalive | but I'm not so sure about it | 05:11 |
| bob2021 | buriedalive i can't restart now though; and hwo do i make sure its using phonon instead of pulse? | 05:11 |
| buriedalive | dont know, or try to full restart pulseaudio | 05:13 |
| bob2021 | can someone help me with my sound? | 05:44 |
| valorie | em: look at http://www.spinics.net/lists/intel-gfx/msg81325.html -- it's just a warning | 05:59 |
| valorie | bob2021: have you gone through the ubuntu doc on sound? | 06:00 |
| valorie | !sound | 06:00 |
| ubottu | If you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 | 06:00 |
| valorie | the troubleshooting one | 06:00 |
| bob2021 | valorie: yes, i did fix it! just a minute ago. it was a combination of what you said about the audio group, and what buriedalive said about restarting pulse | 06:03 |
| bob2021 | i thought i restarted pulse, but its a stubborn little f'er | 06:03 |
| bob2021 | thanks both of you!!! | 06:04 |
| bob2021 | now, what about the trackpad? :) | 06:04 |
| bob2021 | I'm hving this issue: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/274078 | 06:04 |
| valorie | bob2021: for starters, add yourself as affected by that bug | 06:05 |
| valorie | hmmm, I don't see that button | 06:06 |
| valorie | maybe because janitor closed it | 06:06 |
| valorie | I assume that this is a kernel bug, and not an Ubuntu one | 06:07 |
| valorie | so I guess I would chat with the wise folks in #ubuntu-kernel and get their opinion | 06:07 |
| valorie | they helped me a lot when I had an equivalent issue | 06:08 |
| TJ- | You know about the sysfs /new_id bind-adhoc-device-to-driver facility? | 06:09 |
| bob2021 | valorie: i did add myself, i'm the last commenter | 06:10 |
| bob2021 | i think its a HID bug | 06:11 |
| bob2021 | do they have a channel? | 06:11 |
| valorie | HID? | 06:11 |
| valorie | perhaps ask alis | 06:11 |
| valorie | !alis | 06:11 |
| ubottu | alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http | 06:11 |
| TJ- | If a driver has the /new_id node you can simply do "echo vendor device >/sys/..../new_id" to have the driver (attempt to) bind to that device | 06:11 |
| bob2021 | HID is what on linux tells linux what each piece of hardwarwe goes with which driver | 06:11 |
| TJ- | e.g. "echo 004c 0265 > /sys/bus/hid/drivers/hid-generic/new_id" | 06:12 |
| valorie | if it was simple to fix, wouldn't it already be done? | 06:12 |
| valorie | in general, writing drivers for closed stuff like Apple is difficult | 06:12 |
| TJ- | valorie: it's not a fix; it's a workaround when a driver doesn't currently declare a (new) device ID in its internal 'alias' structures | 06:13 |
| valorie | the people I know who do software <> hardware integration work are the smartest people I know | 06:13 |
| bob2021 | valorie: its probably just adding an entry for this hardware id to a text file | 06:14 |
| TJ- | bob2021: which driver should handle the device? I presume the synaptic driver? | 06:15 |
| bob2021 | TJ- Yes | 06:15 |
| bob2021 | as far as i know | 06:15 |
| bob2021 | oh hey tj! remember me? | 06:15 |
| bob2021 | i'm bob2017 in mac os x, but i got ubuntu working | 06:15 |
| TJ- | hmmm, or it might be hid-multitouch.ko | 06:16 |
| bob2021 | tj- well either way | 06:17 |
| TJ- | I just manually loaded that module. If it is loaded you can do (as UID 0) "echo $VENDOR $DEVICE > /sys/bus/hid/drivers/hid-multitouch/new_id" to test it | 06:18 |
| TJ- | So, worth testing it out | 06:18 |
| bob2021 | TJ- do i have to do anything before and after so the system knows it needs to do that? | 06:20 |
| bob2021 | or the system rather sees the change | 06:20 |
| TJ- | identify the VENDOR DEVICE ID values, then (as UID 0) issue that command with the specific (hexadecimal) values | 06:20 |
| TJ- | if the device is USB then "lsusb" | 06:21 |
| bob2021 | TJ- its bt, and i knew what they are before, i can't recall the commad to bring it up though | 06:22 |
| bob2021 | got it let me try... | 06:23 |
| TJ- | if it is Bluetooth then use "bluetoothctl" then at its command-line prompt "list-devices", get the MAC ID of the connected device, then do "info <MAC_ADDRESS>" and look at the "Modalias" value | 06:24 |
| bob2021 | TJ- I don't have a hid-multitouch directory, should i create that? | 06:24 |
| bob2021 | i found the ids with cat /proc/bus/input/devices | 06:25 |
| TJ- | bob2021: "sudo modprobe hid-multitouch" to load the module | 06:25 |
| TJ- | bob2021: if using 'sudo' then "echo $VENDOR $DEVICE | sudo tee /sys/bus/hid/drivers/hid-multitouch/new_id" | 06:26 |
| TJ- | after that check the tail of the kernel log to see how the driver reacted. "tail /var/log/kern.log" or "dmesg | tail" | 06:26 |
| bob2021 | do i need to quote 'vendor device' | 06:26 |
| TJ- | bob2021: no, but ensure there's a space between the 2 values | 06:26 |
| bob2021 | TJ- I mean for the echo command, because its not expecting multiple arguments | 06:27 |
| TJ- | bob2021: echo will 'echo' everything until the end of the command-line; in this case up to the | pipe operator | 06:27 |
| bob2021 | from my own uid i get permission denied. from sudo su, i get "echo: write error: Invalid argument" | 06:28 |
| TJ- | bob2021: "echo $VENDOR $DEVICE | sudo tee /sys/bus/hid/drivers/hid-multitouch/new_id" | 06:30 |
| bob2021 | tj- yes, and replacing the $ with the hex, i've been doing that exactly | 06:30 |
| TJ- | bob2021: what absolute values are you gucing it | 06:30 |
| TJ- | giving | 06:30 |
| bob2021 | sudo echo 004c 0265 > sudo tee /sys/bus/hid/drivers/hid-multitouch/new_id | 06:30 |
| TJ- | let me check that | 06:30 |
| bob2021 | and as root... echo 004c 0265 > /sys/bus/hid/drivers/hid-multitouch/new_id | 06:30 |
| bob2021 | oh pipe | 06:31 |
| bob2021 | oops | 06:31 |
| bob2021 | ok with the pipe, tee: /sys/bus/hid/drivers/hid-multitouch/new_id: Invalid argument | 06:31 |
| TJ- | hmm; try making the Letters UPPER CASE (004C) | 06:32 |
| TJ- | I thought in the kernel it doesn't matter, but maybe I'm confusing that with something else | 06:32 |
| bob2021 | no you're right but i tried it anyway and same thing | 06:33 |
| bob2021 | what does it mean? if anything? | 06:33 |
| TJ- | let me check the source | 06:33 |
| TJ- | have you looked at the kernel log in case the module is reporting a problem ? | 06:33 |
| bob2021 | just did, it hasn't logged anything for 30 minutes | 06:34 |
| rvk | hi | 06:35 |
| TJ- | bob2021: OK, give me a moment to check whether it's the new_id part failing, or the device+driver combo after the device tries to bind | 06:35 |
| bob2021 | thanks :) | 06:35 |
| bob2021 | oh - btw did you see the link i pasted? it has links to a bunch of other people reporting the same issue in october/november. but then there was no activity | 06:36 |
| TJ- | OK... | 06:37 |
| TJ- | ret = sscanf(buf, "%x %x %x %lx", | 06:37 |
| TJ- | &bus, &vendor, &product, &driver_data); | 06:37 |
| TJ- | if (ret < 3) | 06:37 |
| TJ- | return -EINVAL; | 06:37 |
| bob2021 | you want me to run this? | 06:37 |
| TJ- | that's in drivers/hid/hid-core.c::store_new_id() | 06:37 |
| TJ- | No, I'm showing you the code that is throwing the error. You see the "sscanf(...)" function call | 06:38 |
| bob2021 | yes | 06:38 |
| TJ- | the "%x %x %x %lx" means read 4 space-separated numbers. 0-2 are integers, 3 is a long-integer | 06:38 |
| bob2021 | so what's the type of ret? a tuple? | 06:39 |
| bob2021 | g-d every time i see C i'm reminded why i stopped coding in C | 06:39 |
| TJ- | and the next line shows which variable names those values are put into, so we know the format is 'bus' 'vendor' 'product' 'driver-data' ... which doesn't match the standard way that new_id is processed | 06:39 |
| bob2021 | so should i just put the bus in first? | 06:39 |
| TJ- | the function is called with "const char *buf" so I think that comes directly from userspace; let me check that first | 06:40 |
| TJ- | That's what I'm wondering | 06:40 |
| TJ- | I'm guessing the sub-system fills in the 'bus' and 'driver_data' and then calls the hid-core | 06:42 |
| TJ- | OK, the "if (re < 3) means it must have at least 3 args. In the equivalent USB code it only needs 2 | 06:46 |
| TJ- | So, now the question is, what kind of value does the 'bus' take | 06:46 |
| bob2021 | i just checked, and apt told me multitouch isn't installed. i apt installed it, and then modprobe multitouch told me the module couldn't be found | 06:46 |
| bob2021 | TJ- well that's easy, the Bus is part of the same line in /proc/whatebver | 06:46 |
| bob2021 | I: Bus=0005 Vendor=004c Product=0265 Version=0062 | 06:47 |
| bob2021 | ok that time the command did not return an error | 06:47 |
| bob2021 | how do i check if it worked? | 06:47 |
| TJ- | I'm making progress tracing it: | 06:50 |
| TJ- | struct hid_device_id { | 06:50 |
| TJ- | __u16 bus; | 06:50 |
| TJ- | __u16 group; | 06:50 |
| TJ- | __u32 vendor; | 06:50 |
| TJ- | __u32 product; | 06:50 |
| bob2021 | TJ- well the command worked | 06:50 |
| bob2021 | but i'm not seeing any change, i'm not sure where to check | 06:50 |
| TJ- | right, so, 'bus' is a 16-bit number on the specific PC, not some static value as in bus-type (USB, BT, PCI, etc.). If there's nothing in the kernel log that means the device probe didn't match | 06:51 |
| bob2021 | nothing in the kernel log | 06:51 |
| TJ- | So, either we're messing with the wrong device driver entirely, and should try some other, or there is no suitable support currently available | 06:52 |
| bob2021 | ok what do you suggest? | 06:54 |
| TJ- | I'm doing some reading; It looks as if due it the 2's very recent release no-one has yet worked on it that I can find | 07:02 |
| bob2021 | wow really? in 3 months? | 07:03 |
| TJ- | there's some indication that it has to be sent commands to enable the expected functionality | 07:03 |
| bob2021 | there are at least 4 bugs posted about it | 07:03 |
| bob2021 | where do you see this? | 07:03 |
| TJ- | 3 months? usually I'd expect a proprietary device like that to be 12 months at the earliest before it is reverse-engineered; and that depends on some developer being interested enough | 07:03 |
| bob2021 | i figured if all the bug posts were from the start of november, and there's no resolution but they died-out in a week, it must have been solved | 07:03 |
| bob2021 | Apple isn't releasing the basic driver protocol? | 07:04 |
| TJ- | This is why closed-source hardware/software is not appreciated | 07:04 |
| bob2021 | often there are api's though. | 07:04 |
| bob2021 | why would anyone care about protecting the protocol for a trackpad handshake? | 07:04 |
| TJ- | Ask Apple, they've made a business out of it | 07:05 |
| bob2021 | the protocols? | 07:05 |
| TJ- | the entire approach | 07:05 |
| TJ- | locking out owners of devices from using it as they choose | 07:05 |
| bob2021 | well Steve J always thought his competitor was Sony, not MS. he was in the personal electronics business | 07:05 |
| bob2021 | wow down 30% over the year | 07:06 |
| bob2021 | poor Tim Cook | 07:06 |
| TJ- | I've spent/wasted years reverse-engineering devices that the manufacturers have locked up like this; I eventually realised if they're not going to provide the technical info needed I'm not going to donate my time to making their device more useable | 07:07 |
| bob2021 | but anyway, so you think i shouldn't bother? is there a link to what you saw? | 07:08 |
| TJ- | The links off the AskUbuntu question you posted | 07:09 |
| TJ- | Hmmm, looks like we were messing with the wrong driver. Apparently the original Magic Trackpad uses the hid-magicmouse driver | 07:10 |
| TJ- | So "sudo modprobe --remove hid-multitouch" | 07:11 |
| TJ- | then "sudo modprobe hid-magicmouse" and check it exposes the /new_id node | 07:11 |
| TJ- | OK, the target node for that would be "/sys/bus/hid/drivers/magicmouse/new_id" | 07:12 |
| bob2021 | done | 07:13 |
| bob2021 | so what do i check now? | 07:13 |
| TJ- | if you've echoed the ID, check the kernel log again. Inserting the new_id causes the device to be probed. So if it is recognised there'll be messages in the log | 07:14 |
| bob2021 | nope | 07:14 |
| bob2021 | nothing in the log | 07:14 |
| TJ- | which kernel version are you using "uname -r" | 07:14 |
| bob2021 | 4.2 | 07:15 |
| TJ- | let me see if there are any recent commits for that driver | 07:15 |
| TJ- | No, nothing | 07:16 |
| TJ- | And unfortunately the driver hasn't been converted to use dyanmic_debug, so we can't enable additional reporting easily | 07:18 |
| TJ- | I wonder if we need to *unbind* the device from its current driver first. Does your system show it has bound to another driver? | 07:19 |
| bob2021 | TJ where would i check that? | 07:19 |
| TJ- | The node is /remove_id but I don't see one accessible via sysfs that seems to relate to the generic HID | 07:21 |
| TJ- | Looks like you could use the /unbind interface. In that case, you have to write the HID ID of the device-node, which you can see as a symlink with "ls -l /sys/bus/hid/drivers/hid-generic/" as 4 groups of hexadec numbers xxxx:xxxxx:xxxx.yyyy. | 07:29 |
| TJ- | e.g. for a BT mouse I see "0005:046D:B002.0016 -> ../../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb7/7-2/7-2.1/7-2.1:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:11/0005:046D:B002.0016/" so "0005:046D:B002.0016" is the HID ID | 07:30 |
| NastyButtler | hey dudes | 07:42 |
| NastyButtler | new to this, want to connect with http://irc.evilzone.org/ | 07:43 |
| hateball | NastyButtler: Do you have a Kubuntu support question? | 07:51 |
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| benvantende | morning people! i have tried many things to make (Baloo) search work in Dolphin. Since 15.10 search is mostly greyed. I have tried most steps available on the internet. Does anyone have a magic bullet? | 12:17 |
| hateball | benvantende: is this a fresh install or an upgrade? | 12:18 |
| hateball | benvantende: what does "balooctl status" say? | 12:19 |
| madmouser1 | hi all, is there a way to set the wallpaper in Kubuntu via the terminal? | 12:21 |
| hateball | madmouser1: well you can edit plasmarc and supply your own path | 12:22 |
| hateball | I am not sure if there is a qdbus command to do it | 12:22 |
| madmouser1 | thanks hateball that put me on the right track | 12:24 |
| hateball | :) | 12:24 |
| madmouser1 | there she is ... usersWallpapers= | 12:25 |
| benvantende | hateball: upgrade and status says: | 12:30 |
| benvantende | Baloo File Indexer is running | 12:30 |
| benvantende | Indexer state: Idle | 12:30 |
| benvantende | Indexed 47365 / 47365 files | 12:30 |
| benvantende | Current size of index is 195,86 MiB | 12:30 |
| benvantende | hateball: i rebuilt the index a couple of times. the first time that worked, but did not last | 12:31 |
| benvantende | hateball: what seems interesting is what the criteria for greying out for dolphin are | 12:32 |
| hateball | hmmm | 12:32 |
| benvantende | hateball: hmmm indeed ;) | 12:33 |
| hateball | I don't really have any other troubleshooting advice than to wipe the index and rebuild | 12:33 |
| hateball | Not sure how you can trace where it craps up | 12:33 |
| benvantende | i did that wiping a few times already, so that is probably not going to work. | 12:34 |
| benvantende | does dolphin have a dedicated issue tracker btw? | 12:35 |
| hateball | benvantende: not sure, #kde will know | 12:36 |
| benvantende | hateball: thanks - makes sense | 12:37 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 13:17 |
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| starcraftman | Question, recently started using kubuntu 15.10. Have set autostart script in startup settings and on reboot it dissapears (including link in ~/.config/autostart-scripts). | 15:51 |
| starcraftman | Anyone else had this? Google only showed me an old closed bug. | 15:51 |
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| BluesKaj | Maxiride_, check your irc connection | 17:10 |
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| cosec_ | how do i dual boot kubuntu with another distribution | 21:21 |
| cosec_ | i let kubuntu use the entire hard drive while installing it | 21:22 |
| soee_ | cosec_: and you have 2 dardrives ? | 21:23 |
| soee_ | *harddrives? | 21:23 |
| cosec_ | i have only one drive | 21:23 |
| cosec_ | :( | 21:23 |
| cosec_ | laptop | 21:23 |
| soee_ | anad what systems do you want to have ? | 21:24 |
| cosec_ | a lenovo y460 running kubuntu 15.10 | 21:24 |
| cosec_ | soee_: any ideas? | 21:25 |
| cosec_ | the way i figure it, i need to make another partition | 21:26 |
| soee_ | so one system not dualboot ? | 21:26 |
| cosec_ | the system is not dual boot | 21:26 |
| cosec_ | :( | 21:26 |
| cosec_ | TT | 21:26 |
| soee_ | ah 2 distributions you want | 21:26 |
| cosec_ | yes yes | 21:27 |
| cosec_ | one light weight distribution for conserving battery | 21:27 |
| soee_ | well i never tried that but yes i suggest atleast 2 partitions | 21:27 |
| cosec_ | yes, thats what i figured i should do | 21:27 |
| soee_ | but maybe even better option would be: | 21:28 |
| cosec_ | really ? | 21:28 |
| soee_ | 1 partition for / of first distro, 1 partition for / second distro and separate (third) partition for /home (both distro can share same home - ust give users different names) | 21:28 |
| cosec_ | that sounds really cool | 21:29 |
| cosec_ | how do i partition my drives ? | 21:29 |
| soee_ | do you plan to install Kubuntu ? | 21:30 |
| cosec_ | nope | 21:30 |
| cosec_ | lubuntu perhaps | 21:30 |
| cosec_ | coz its lightweight' | 21:30 |
| soee_ | so why are you on Kubuntu support channel ? | 21:30 |
| cosec_ | i am using kubuntu r8 no | 21:30 |
| cosec_ | w | 21:30 |
| soee_ | ok but if you want to use dofferent distros, join their support channel as i can't help with different distros setup | 21:31 |
| cosec_ | wahaaha | 21:32 |
| dobigeon | Hello / Bonjour ! | 21:52 |
| Stern | Does anyone have an alternative for Okular? My PDF files show up half empty due to some exotic PDF format. | 22:01 |
| Fritigern | The only alternative that I am aware of (although there may be ones that I don;t know of) would be the actual Adobe Reader | 22:02 |
| genii | Stern: Have you tried opening it in LibreOffice Writer? | 22:03 |
| acher88 | foxit reader https://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/ | 22:08 |
| acher88 | evince (gnome) | 22:08 |
| acher88 | atril (equivalent from mate desktop) | 22:09 |
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| Stern | genii: Unfortunately still half empty in LibreOffice Write | 22:31 |
| Stern | Gonna try foxit | 22:31 |
| genii | Sounds like some screwy pdf file | 22:31 |
| Stern | It's an invoice of my telephone company | 22:31 |
| Stern | Low budget in everything, even IT | 22:32 |
| Stern | Opening the PDF with Chromium browser solves the problem. Still gonna file a complaint though. | 22:38 |
| genii | Maybe it has something like web links embedded it in it that just appear as empty space when you use a regular viewer | 22:43 |
| Stern | Or maybe it contains XFA? | 22:46 |
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