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dokofinally, python-support removed from Debian00:30
dokobarry, jtaylor tumbleweed: now let's ditch it for xenial ;-P00:33
dokocyphermox, one more shadow upload without a merge :-/00:50
cyphermoxhrm?00:50
cyphermoxthat was an upload to trusty...00:50
dokocyphermox, ohh, trusty only00:50
tumbleweeddoko: IIRC we're ready for that00:51
cyphermoxI'll get back to merges soon, but for now 14.04.4 takes priority00:51
tumbleweedginggs filed a RM bug, I think?00:51
dokotumbleweed, reverse-depends tells otherwise00:52
tumbleweeddoko: LP: #153531800:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1535318 in lernid (Ubuntu) "deprecation of python-support" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153531800:57
dokoahh, cool00:58
tumbleweeddoko: basically, everything that's left was either removed from testing or is ubuntu cruft00:58
keesslangasek: openssh in proposed. wat? collided? do I need to reupload?02:03
keesoh, I see. no need to reupload.02:04
pittiGood morning04:52
alkisgbdrung, bdrung_work, hi, adblock from the xul ppa has stopped working, a signed version is now needed with firefox 44. Would it be possible to upload adblock 2.7.1? Thank you very much for maintaining this!06:59
lukesoftHi Guys, Really trying to get going with contributing to ubuntu......but iam getting some bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu/tomboy/"07:12
lukesoftcan you please point me in the right direction07:12
pittilukesoft: don't use the UDD branches any more; they are not maintained any more and don't exist for xenial07:17
pittilukesoft: just use "apt-get source tomboy" (there is no Ubuntu VCS for tomboy)07:17
lukesoftoooh ok thanks...let me try that07:18
lukesoftpitti: so when can i get the new tutorials, coz i was following the one on ubuntu packacking...Is this now obsolete07:20
lukesoft*where07:20
pittilukesoft: the existing one mentions apt-get source; but we are currently working on providing git branches for all packages, until then I don't think that the tutorial will be changed07:34
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bdrung_workalkisg, i'll put updating adblock-plus on my todo list09:08
bdrung_workalkisg, a new release won't fix the problem with the signature: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/153248409:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1532484 in iceweasel (Debian) "Don't warn about unsigned extension installed via Debian packages" [Unknown,Fix released]09:08
lukemadzedzeGuys which programming languages are used if want to contribute to the so called MOTU09:25
lukemadzedzeor it depends on the package09:26
lukemadzedzeDo all packages use the same language09:26
alkisgbdrung_work: ouch, does that mean that the patch you proposed there won't be integrated in Ubuntu unless it's accepted by chrisccoulson or someone else?09:35
alkisgThe patch does seem pretty simple and safe...09:35
alkisgOr should we spend effort on trying to convince upstream mozilla instead?09:36
bdrung_workalkisg, it's on my todo list to write a mail to ubuntu-devel to start a discussion about it. convincing upstream would be the best option (they should provide a configure switch for it)09:40
alkisgThank you very much bdrung_work, I'll put that bug in the affects me too list and wish for the best :)09:46
bdrung_workalkisg, feel free to open an upstream bug and link it to the lp bug09:47
* alkisg reads the debian bug to see if the folks there already filed an upstream bug...09:47
cjwatsonlukemadzedze: depends entirely on the package; a wide variety of languages is used; the most common would probably be C, C++, Python, Perl, some Java and some of various functional languages, and various bits of shell and make and such in build systems.  Most important to be flexible10:07
lukemadzedzemember:cjwatson: thanks a lot10:17
LocutusOfBorgsil2100, seems like a new ppp has been uploaded in debian10:28
LocutusOfBorgdo you care to merge it?10:28
sil2100Oh, sure thing o/10:48
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LocutusOfBorgthanks12:20
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lukesoftguys is there a way to find out which language a package is developed in, before i start trying to fixing its bug...or even downloading the sorces14:47
lukesoftsources14:47
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dxhi! how long do "debian imports" take? i see a freeze deadline in february 18 and i'm wondering when i should get the packages in debian testing to ensure they get in 16.0414:56
cjwatsondx: the auto-sync process runs from unstable, not testing; and it takes at worst around half a day from Debian upload, depending on the vagaries of dinstall timing and other similar cron jobs15:01
dxexcellent15:02
dxit's like you just replied "-7 days"15:03
gpiccoliHello, sorry to bother. I want to download kernel 4.4 for xenial, but it seems this kernel is not present in ppa unstable anymore15:05
gpiccoliCan someone help me with this?15:05
bjfgpiccoli, it's in -proposed15:08
gpiccoliCan you point me the URL bjf?15:10
bjfgpiccoli, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/4.4.0-1.15/+build/888082415:12
gpiccoliThanks bjf! But I'm on ppc64el.15:14
gpiccoliDo you have a generic PPA or something like this?15:14
bjfgpiccoli, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/4.4.0-1.15/+build/888082915:14
gpiccoliThanks very much bjf15:15
cjwatsondx: heh15:32
dxalso, pidgin released 2.10.12, the debian package maintainer doesn't seem to be active and the pidgin in wily has buggy patches. what should i do to ensure the buggy package doesn't get in xenial?15:39
dxmore launchpad tickets?15:39
dxthe bug i'm referring to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/147971515:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1479715 in pidgin (Ubuntu) "Crash due to fd leak when playing sounds in pidgin" [High,Confirmed]15:45
seb128dx, no, more tickets isn't helping to get work done, send rather a debdiff for the update if you want to help with it15:48
dxseb128: a debdiff with the version bump + removal of local patches?15:49
dxand attach it to that bug?15:50
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bdmurraydidrocks: Could you have a look at bug 1532355 since you've touched plymouth a fair bit recently?16:09
ubottubug 1532355 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Xenial) "package linux-image-4.3.0-5-generic 4.3.0-5.16 failed to install/upgrade: run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools exited with return code 2" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153235516:09
didrocksbdmurray: this shouldn't hang up boot anyway, on the warning, do you have a way to reproduce this setup?16:14
Laneydid anyone look at gradle/component-mismatches yet?16:15
* Laney doesn't see what is pulilng it into main immediately16:15
pittiLaney: ugh @ http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg16:17
Laneypitti: I know right16:17
LaneyI ran the dmb packageset script and it wanted to add haskell-* to "core"16:17
Laney"um, nope"16:18
pitti   [Reverse-Build-Depends: libspring-java]16:18
pittihm, which is itself universe16:18
Laneyindeed16:18
bdmurraydidrocks: Some of the duplicates look like dist upgrades from Wily16:18
LaneyI got approximately that far16:18
Laneygerminate took me in a circle16:18
cjwatsonLaney: pretty sure I looked through that a while back, let me find the log16:20
pittilooks like pandoc pulls in gradle?16:22
cjwatsonthe actual answer is higher up than that I think16:22
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cjwatsonaha16:26
cjwatson02:16 <cjwatson>   "libcommons-net-java" -> "build-helper-maven-plugin" [label=" B" color="blue" fontcolor="blue"]16:26
cjwatsonthat ends up pulling in all the things via a tortuous path16:26
cjwatsoninfinity and I had to resort to crawling through graphviz output to find that16:26
pittiwow, that pulls in haskell now?16:26
cjwatsonpandoc is haskell16:26
cjwatsonand something wants that16:27
Laney libcommons-net-java | 3.4-2         | xenial          | all16:27
Laney libcommons-net-java | 3.4-2         | xenial/universe | source16:27
cjwatsonbut libcommons-net-java was the root of it last I looked16:27
pittithere must still be a bug somewhere -- there should be one green ("already in main") package somewhere in that cluster, but isn't16:27
cjwatsonI think it's that way because of incomplete promotions/demotions16:27
pittioh, source in uninverse, binary in main16:27
cjwatsonI forget the exact reasoning but it made sense once I unpicked it16:28
awe_seb128, do you have some time to check out mp for bluez; it bumps us to 5.37 & syncs us with the fixes in touch...16:29
LaneyIt looks like libcommons-net-java took over from libcommons-net1-java16:30
Laneyand has all the build-depends16:30
Odd_Blokecjwatson: Do you have a minute for a livecd-rootfs merge and upload?  (https://code.launchpad.net/~daniel-thewatkins/livecd-rootfs/ppc64el/+merge/284152)16:30
Odd_Blokecjwatson: Oh, actually, hold on; might need to tweak that slightly.16:31
cjwatsonOdd_Bloke: urr.  too late16:33
cjwatson(rather, I saw that too late due to uploading rather than watching IRC)16:33
Odd_Blokecjwatson: No worries, it's not broken, there's just another issue that needs fixing too.  Sorry for jumping the gun on the request. :(16:34
rharperrbasak: for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnl3/+bug/1511735 ; what am I missing for SRU to trusty, next steps?17:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1511735 in libnl3 (Ubuntu Trusty) "libnl: fail to bind() netlink sockets" [Undecided,New]17:36
rbasakrharper: looks good process-wise. Just need review and sponsorship. How do you feel about the regression risk? Are you confident about the patches and their impact?17:38
* rharper reviews what he wrote a while ago17:38
rbasakrharper: I'm swamped with MySQL now, and then we'll be straight into the sprint next week. So I'm really struggling on the review side right now.17:39
rbasakMaybe kirkland could help review and sponsor? I think he offered before and this one is nice and independent.17:39
rharperrbasak: sure; do I just need to find a sponser then ?17:39
rbasakI think so, yes.17:39
rharpercool17:40
rharperI'll poke around17:40
tewardmaybe you would subscribe the ubuntu sponsors team?17:40
teward(that way it gets on the list of stuff that needs poked?)17:40
rharperteward: good idea17:40
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LocutusOfBorgmdeslaur, please merge libwmf with my debian upload, to ease libpng transition, thanks :)18:16
mdeslaurLocutusOfBorg: sure18:17
LocutusOfBorgthanks :)18:17
LocutusOfBorgyofel, can you please update khtml with my latest debian upload?18:21
LocutusOfBorgI fixed the libpng12-dev to libpng-dev :)18:21
LocutusOfBorgxnox, can you please update gdk-pixbuf the same libpng fix in debian :)18:26
bdmurraykenvandine: Could you have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/lxc-android-config/apport-job-cleanup/+merge/274497?18:40
Shockhello18:42
ShockI'm getting a warning that some packages cannot be authenticated (libgmpxx4ldbl libp11-kit-dev libidn11-dev libgmp-dev nettle-dev). is this normal?18:42
slangasekShock: this question would be more appropriate for #ubuntu.  For the record, it is not normal, and it is strongly recommended that you not install unauthenticated packages on your system.  It probably does not indicate an active attack, you may just need to re-run 'apt-get update'; but you can't be sure unless you actually get rid of the message18:44
kenvandinebdmurray, i can have a look18:44
Shockslangasek: I'm asking here because this is the second time it's happened and went the #ubuntu->#ubuntu-dev route once18:45
Shockslangasek: last time the error was fixed by switching to the main server instead of mirror. now I'm using the main server and getting the error18:45
Shockslangasek: there's not much help #ubuntu can provide if the main archive is at fault :(18:46
rwwre-run sudo apt-get update, try again, see if it still happens18:46
rwwand odds are the main archive is not at fault, hence the #ubuntu recommendation18:46
Shockrww: already did that a couple of times18:46
rbasakShock: is it possible that your connection is behind a bad caching proxy, perhaps a transparent one? Some ISPs are known to do that.18:48
rbasakI would check the sha256sums and sizes in the packages file (/var/lib/apt/lists) against the downloaded files (/var/cache/apt/archives/partial) manually.18:49
ShockI'm getting the following warnings http://paste.ubuntu.com/14681447/18:50
sarnold"unauthenticated" makes me think there's another configured archive; does apt-cache policy libgmpxx4ldbl   etc look sane?18:50
Shocksarnold: apt-cache madison listed only the main archive, I'll check policy18:51
Shockpolicy also lists only the main archive18:51
rbasakThat's odd. Looks like your verification public keys are broken.18:52
Shockrbasak: how could that happen?18:53
ogra_or someone on the way to the archive has a transparent proxy in the line18:53
rbasakShock: pastebin "apt-key list"18:53
Shockhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/14681507/18:57
Shockrbasak: done18:58
sarnoldgpg: keyblock resource `/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/zulcss-libvirt.gpg': resource limit   -- well that's odd..18:58
sarnoldand there's the keys that it reported missing a few minutes earlier.18:59
rbasakIt is odd. Looks like the keys are there but apt sees something different from apt-key.19:00
rbasakEither that or you have a man in the middle. Unless you check the full key fingerprints you can't be sure.19:00
rbasak(PGP key IDs are easy to duplicate)19:01
Shockrbasak: how do I do that?19:01
rbasakI'm not sure exactly, and I have to run now, sorry. You can certainly use gpg directly. There may be an easier way.19:01
Shockrbasak: thanks!19:02
ShockI've run apt-get update again, it's still showing signature verification errors. I'm not sure how to proceed further, any help would be welcome19:03
sarnoldcheck /var/lib/apt/lists/*InRelease  and see if those reflect the apt-get update you ran a few seconds ago; run gpg --verify  on those, that should include the full fingerprint of the keys that signed those files19:03
Shockam I right in assuming that "W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/InRelease" is because the signature couldn't be verified? I can open the url just fine in the browser19:05
sarnoldthe fingerprints should match the first two here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#GPG_Keys_used_by_Ubuntu19:05
rbasakShock: I think so, yes.19:06
Shockgpg --verify says "gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found"19:09
cjwatsongpg --verify will only work if you happen to have the right key in your *own* keyring19:10
cjwatsontry "apt-key adv --verify" instead19:10
cjwatson(you can ignore any "gpg: WARNING: Using untrusted key!" warnings)19:10
cjwatsonhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/14681623/ <- good output19:11
cjwatsonin your position I would look more closely at /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/zulcss-libvirt.gpg19:12
cjwatsonis it a huge file or something?19:12
Shock362 bytes19:13
dokobdmurray, could you review two changes for whoopsie? #1538705 and #1508653 ?19:13
Shockcjwatson: all I'm seeing is "Good signature"19:14
Shockcjwatson: I can remove the libvirt ppa, will that also remove the key?19:14
cjwatsondepends on the method you use ...19:15
cjwatsonyou could try just moving that file aside though, and seeing what happens19:15
Shocksoftware-properties-gtk19:15
cjwatsonI think software-properties will remove the key, yes19:17
Shockcjwatson: I've moved the file aside and re-ran apt-get update -- now the only gpg error I'm getting is for a ppa, presumably the ppa I've removed the key for19:18
cjwatsonright, so I guess remove the PPA properly with s-p, and then re-add it (which should refetch the key)?19:18
Shockcjwatson: I don't need it anymore, I'm gonna build the packages manually. Should I re-add it in this case or just remove it?19:19
cjwatsonthat's sounding like you want to remove it, but up to you19:19
Shockcjwatson: thanks19:20
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ShockI've removed the ppa and now apt-get update finishes successfully without any errors19:21
Shockthank you everyone for your help!19:21
Shockis this a bug in apt-get or gpg?19:21
bdmurraydoko: I'll have a look.19:22
cjwatsonbug> pass, best way to tell would be to figure out how to reproduce it reliably; hope you kept a copy of that zulcss-libvirt.gpg key file, I should have mentioned that19:23
Shockcjwatson: damn, I've just deleted it19:25
Shockcjwatson: do you want me to re-add the ppa and see if it's reproducible?19:26
cjwatsonShock: I'm just driving by here; perhaps that would be a useful thing to try, but I'm not a relevant package maintainer or anything here19:26
cjwatson(I mean, I'm a developer, just not of either apt or gnupg)19:27
rbasakShock: it sounds to me that the zulcss-libvirt.gpg was truncated or corrupted somehow. I suspect it'll be really hard to pin down what happened there.19:34
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tewardanyone know how frequently the autopkgtests pages update?20:01
tewardnevermind, i have different questions now20:02
wolsenbdmurray, thx for the feedback on the patch for bug 1089013, I've updated the patch fwiw20:25
ubottubug 1089013 in lvm2 (Ubuntu Wily) "clvm startup script requires cman" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108901320:25
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smoseranyone have an idea what would be triggering /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available to run20:59
smoserbug 152771020:59
ubottubug 1527710 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "apt-get update triggers asynchronous task" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152771020:59
smoseri dont think its an apt-get udpate. but i think that thing is responsible for failures i was seeing in curtin installs and also for failures we're seeing in d-i server installs21:00
smosersuch as the one seen https://platform-qa-jenkins.ubuntu.com/view/smoke-default/job/ubuntu-xenial-server-amd64-smoke-default/28/console21:00
smoseri believe d-i is refusing to unmount the target filesystem because something is running inside, and i belive update-motd to be that thing.21:01
chilukmterry do you want to do an upload for pad.lv/153534921:30
tedgHow do I find out the same as "lsb_release --codename" for a package that is building, for which target it is building to?21:31
kenvandinebdmurray, that branch looks good, but i need to test it on a device21:31
kenvandinebdmurray, i'll make sure I do that tomorrow morning21:31
chilukmterry, arges, pitti would any of you be interested in sponsoring an upload for bug 153534921:31
ubottubug 1535349 in coreutils (Ubuntu Trusty) "`df /dev/sda1` no longer reports information for /dev/sda1" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153534921:31
argeschiluk: i can take a look21:32
chilukthanks arges.21:32
chilukor at least reviewing.21:33
lukesoft is there a way of know the language used in a package, before downloading the sources....i want to try out fixing a bug or 2 but only if its a java application...but i dont seem to see any other way to know its a java programm before downloading the sources21:41
TheMusolukesoft: You could check the package dependencies. That can probably give you a clue, particularly if its a java application.21:42
Shockcjwatson & rbasak: I've re-added the ppa and now I'm getting the signature verification errors again21:46
lukesoftTheMuso: thanks for the response, iam sorry that iam probably asking stupid questions as all this is still confusing.21:46
smoserok... so now i'm 99% certain that the apt-check thing is indeed caused by 'apt-get update' (21:46
smoser /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99update-notifier:APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success21:46
Shockcjwatson & rbasak: and the gpg error is the same "gpg: keyblock resource `/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/zulcss-libvirt.gpg': resource limit"21:47
dokoso what am I doing wrong here? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tbb/4.4~20151115-0ubuntu2  this builds locally ...21:50
bdmurraysmoser: Why did you change update-notifier the way you did when you mentioned 99update-notifier being the issue?22:23
infinitydoko: Looks like a missing build-dep on dh-exec to me.22:37
dokoinfinity, oh, of course22:50
kirklandsmoser: did you get to the bottom of the update-motd / d-i / umount problem?23:05
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