[08:32] <TJ-> Can someone have a word in #ubuntu with detai (offering private msg support and general non-observance of guidlines and noise) ?
[09:07] <ikonia> TJ-: of course
[09:08] <ikonia> he's gone it would appear
[09:10] <TJ-> He seemed to calm down a bit eventually... unregistered nick, very noisy initially
[09:10] <ikonia> long gone, but worth keeping an eye out for coming back
[09:13] <TJ-> haha and back :)
[10:04] <ikonia> hello detai
[10:05] <detai> hello
[10:05] <detai> you banned me?
[10:05] <ikonia> I forwarded you to this channel to try to help you with some info on how to use the #ubuntu channel
[10:05] <ikonia> maybe get a little more out of it, and give a little more back in a better way
[10:05] <detai> please clarify WHY
[10:06] <detai> what Exactly I DID to be BANNED?
[10:06] <ikonia> please stop talking in caps
[10:07] <detai> OHH this time it's intentional... You Summarily ban someone with out cause, why?
[10:07] <ikonia> if you could calm down a little, sotp typing in caps, stop asking people to pm you (which I note you have done already) and stop chasing support a little and just respond when people need help, we'd very much appreciate it
[10:07] <detai> TJ- told me not to offer "/msg detai " and I stopped
[10:08] <detai> I did not ASK after TJ told me not to do it...
[10:08] <ikonia> yes, I've already said I noted you've stopped
[10:08] <detai> what else did I do wront?
[10:08] <detai> just the CAPS??
[10:08] <ikonia> please re-read what I just said, it should still be on the screen
[10:09] <detai> I'm not chasing support
[10:09] <ikonia> just calm down a little, I appreciate sometimes caps can be usefl to stress a certain word, and thats great, but you're basically pushing it as a communication method
[10:09] <ikonia> 09:53 < detai> Any SUPPORT questions FIRE AWAY!!!!
[10:09] <ikonia> that's chasing support
[10:09] <detai> I've asked questions in the channel before and NO one RESPONDED...
[10:09] <ikonia> 09:02 < detai> IF YOU'RE HERE FOR SUPPORT QUESTIONS - FIRE AWAY!
[10:09] <ikonia> thats chasing support
[10:09] <detai> How is that a problem?
[10:09] <ikonia> it's not how the channel works
[10:10] <detai> so You banned me for CAPS?
[10:10] <ikonia> you don't need to advertise you're available
[10:10] <ikonia> you're not banned, you can rejoin shortly
[10:11] <detai> I'm not going to, you and your moderator buddies can continue to offer crappy lowercased support or just keep ignoring newbies
[10:11] <ikonia> if you could just calm down, sit in the channel, if someone needs help and you know how to help (and I mean known - not google their problem and copy google responses) that would be great
[10:11] <detai> why are you creating so many Rules?
[10:11] <ikonia> you can use caps to stress something if it's needed to be made clear, but if you could also not use caps as a general chat language, that would be helpful too please
[10:11] <ikonia> ok - your last comment does it for me
[10:11] <ikonia> I think we're done
[10:11] <detai> why is the CAPS rule worthy of a temp-ban?
[10:11] <ikonia> "crappy lower case support"
[10:13] <detai> one last question
[10:13] <detai> what was the reason for the temp-ban?
[10:13] <ikonia> I've just explained above
[10:13] <ikonia> it's not a ban, I've just moved you to this channel to talk to you
[10:14] <detai> You think I'm googling answers?
[10:14] <ikonia> not all of them no,
[10:14] <detai> wow... ask dani_ ask Guest944 ask gotham25
[10:15] <ikonia> on need to ask anything
[10:15] <detai> there are almost 1800 people in the channel, why is it that when a newbie asks a question No-one Engages them and Helps?
[10:16] <ikonia> many people engage and help
[10:16] <Myrtti> If they don't know an answer, or aren't at the keyboard
[10:17] <detai> what's the reason for Banning someone for Encouraging newbies to ask questions...?
[10:17] <detai> what harm comes of that?
[10:20] <detai> 1800 people and no-one even bothers to confirm if the printer question is related to the USB or NETWORK printer... I got that out of that user, and then TJ- and I were able to focus in on the question
[10:21] <detai> the question is left un engaged and the user that usually asks a question leaves after a few minutes...
[10:23] <detai> ohh yeah are doing a bang-up job... of keeping users in windows environment, by ignoring the simplest questions which could help newbies switch away from windows to linux
[10:27] <detai> well, I hope I dont figure out how to change ip's, switch to a VPN...  i'm only a Network coordinator with over a decade of experience, and I know what a Mentor Pro Server is.  Go GOOGLE THAT!
[10:28] <ikonia> ok, thanks
[10:28] <ikonia> bye then
[10:30] <ikonia> Tessa: please /part the channel now,
[10:31] <ikonia> don't need to send me any more pm's
[10:31] <ikonia> I think we're done here, so you can /part
[11:00] <k1l> seems like he was teamviewing another user?
[11:00] <ikonia> no idea
[17:33] <k1l> [detai] (~homeoffic@ool-44c18605.dyn.optonline.net): HomeOFFICE
[17:33] <k1l> is this detai aka tessa?
[17:40] <IdleOne> probably
[17:40] <ikonia> as long as he doesn't start his caps lock cut and paste help, I don't care
[17:41] <IdleOne> ^
[17:42] <ikonia> he will sleep well thinking he's got one over on us, and we'll be happy as he will fall in line with what I was trying to suggest to him before
[17:42] <ikonia> although he has got people to randomly pm me to tell me that detai helped them
[17:42] <ikonia> 17:36 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with xa6
[17:42] <ikonia> 17:36 <xa6> detai helped me, thanks
[17:42] <ikonia> that was about 6 minutes ago
[17:43] <ikonia> 17:44 <xa6> <detai> if I've been useful feel free to "/msg ikonia YOUR MASSAGE"  tell him what you think about me quality of support
[17:43] <ikonia> thats "now"
[17:44] <Pici> I guess you didn't want the massage.
[17:44] <ikonia> not today thanks
[17:45] <bazhang> first one is free, with a complimentary install of emacs
[17:45] <ikonia> this has just come through
[17:45] <ikonia> 17:46 <ikonia> no, he's someone who is being silly and involving people in
[17:45] <ikonia>                silly games, I'm really very sorry you got asked to do that
[17:45] <ikonia> 17:46 <xa6> ok , well,
[17:45] <ikonia> 17:46 <ikonia> glad you got help though
[17:45] <ikonia> 17:47 <xa6> In fact I did not, but I felt pity from him, and saw some type of
[17:45] <ikonia>             effort to help me
[17:46] <ikonia> so it appears he did not get help, but felt pity enough to pm me
[17:51] <detai> hello
[17:51] <bazhang> hi detai
[17:52] <detai> ikonia banned me AGAIN... without reason
[17:52] <detai> is there a TERMINAL command to REMOVE the STICK FROM IKONIA's ASS???
[17:52] <bazhang> not without reason
[17:53] <detai> what was the reason today?
[17:53] <bazhang> detai, the previous post would be a good indicator
[17:53] <detai> if you Can take a DICK, you can take a joke... LOL
[17:54] <detai> ohh I'm so SORRY I Disrespected an ass OP that has banned me twice already...
[17:54] <bazhang> detai, thats enough
[17:55] <Myrtti> usually people on this channel manage to get their issues solved quite easily
[17:55] <detai> FOR NO REASON... I Was banned for SOLICITING TO ANSWER SUPPORT questions and for occasional use of CAPS
[17:55] <detai> ok tell me why I was banned today...?
[17:55] <detai> what was the issue?
[17:55] <detai> he kicked me from the #ubuntu channel summarily. and without reason!
[17:56] <Myrtti> maybe there is a reason that just isn't obvious to you
[17:56] <detai> fyi: I discovered that linux Kernels still dont support USB3.1 standard that macbook retina is already using
[17:57] <detai> and I solved the reason xa6 couldnt install linux on that macbook retina... a question that no one was able to help with...
[17:57] <bazhang> thats not accurate
[17:57] <detai> and I'm being KICKED like a dog, but some cocksucking hungarian, for my use of CAPS
[17:58] <detai> ok bazhang which kernel SUPPORTS usb3.1 standard???
[17:58] <bazhang> detai, you are unable to discuss this is a calm and non filled with curses manner
[17:59] <detai> answer my question about the KERNEL and USB 3.1
[17:59] <bazhang> detai, thats outside the purview of this channel
[18:00] <rww> "hungarian"? that's a new one
[18:00] <detai> stop changing the subject of my allegations that the OPS on the #ubuntu channel bunch of drone/script kiddies, incapable of answering the simplest question
[18:00] <detai> rww: ikonia is from Hungary? yes?
[18:00] <rww> detai: not that i'm aware
[18:00] <detai> run whois on him...
[18:01] <rww> i have. and?
[18:01] <rww> i mean, this is kind of tangential, but i'm really curious
[18:01] <bazhang> detai, as you are unable to discuss this in a calm and rational manner, I suggest you return at such a time as you are able to do so
[18:01] <detai> so please oh most Knowlegable bazhang please tell me which KERNEL of linux supports USB3.1 standard???
[18:02] <detai> other techs have already agreed with me... about the usb 3.1
[18:02] <bazhang> detai, this will in no way affect your ban in #ubuntu , nor is this a support / bing channel
[18:03] <detai> yet, I'm the only one on #ubuntu channel that figured this out... and yesterday ikonia accused me of GOOGLING answers NOW that DID PISS ME OFF!!!
[18:04] <Myrtti> ikonia connects to freenode server that is in Hungary - this bares no correlation to where he actually is as people are recommended to use a roundrobin chat.freenode.net which randomly selects the server to use
[18:04] <bazhang> so come back to discuss your ban when you are able to do so in a calm rational manner
[18:04] <detai> Why was I banned today...??  I wasnt broadcasting in UBUNTU# I was not using CAPS??? why?
[18:05] <detai> I dont need to I will CHANGE my IP like putting on a new pair of SOCKS and breach your DUMBASS ban FILTER
[18:05] <detai> Bunch of EGOMANAICAL assholes
[18:05] <detai> useless and INCOMPETENT~!!!!
[18:05] <bazhang> bye bye
[18:05] <detai> ban me for caps AGAIN
[18:06] <detai> but you still dont know shit about KERNEL support of usb 3.1
[18:06] <Myrtti> you know, the ops were willing to look your ban evasion through their fingers as long as you would have been helpful in the channel without getting reports from other users
[18:06] <detai> ban EVASION.... is that like EVADING the POLICE... WHO do YOU JERKOFFS THINK YOU ARE???
[18:07] <Myrtti> it just happens that ikonia got a message from a person that you 'helped', saying that you had told them to message ikonia
[18:07] <Myrtti> now to my eyes that doesn't seem like a good idea
[18:07] <detai> I say that if I was helpful tell Ikonia whom he has been kicking
[18:07] <Myrtti> and I can't fathom why you would think it was
[18:08] <detai> why is that WRONG asking for some props from someone I helped for FREE
[18:08] <Myrtti> so you wanted to make other people that had nothing to do with you or your ban or ikonia a tool in your issue
[18:08] <Myrtti> I can see why that would cause you to be banned
[18:09] <detai> yes My issue is that I have been repeatedly and summaraly banned by ikonia and HE ACCUSED ME OF GOOGLING ANSWERS... AND THAT PISSED ME OFFFF|
[18:09] <bazhang> detai, come back when you are calm and can be civil
[18:10] <detai> I will comeback anytime I like, you cant make a filter wide enough to ban me....
[18:11] <detai> i WILL EVADE your pathetic POWER TRIPPING ikonia filtering and I will connect at will and THERE is NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT, and YOU KNOW IT!!!
[18:11] <rww> alright, that's enough
[18:11] <rww> you're just making yourself look worse, and this isn't going anywhere
[18:11] <detai> if someone accused you bazhang of offering support by GOOGLING for ANSWERS you'd be PISSED OFF TOO!!!
[18:11] <Myrtti> I doubt he'd be this inflamed
[18:12] <Myrtti> I don't think any of us would
[18:12] <rww> please come back tomorrow and we'll discuss this further
[18:12] <detai> after BEING kicked the next DAY for NO REASON???
[18:12] <bazhang> I bing for answers all the time
[18:12] <detai> just because someone told IKONIA i was helpful
[18:12] <Myrtti> you acted like this after the first kick, if memory serves
[18:12] <detai> that is NOT what IKONIA meant]
[18:12] <Myrtti> so that's a bit of an invalid argument
[18:14] <detai> he KICKED me for SOLICITING to OFFER SUPPORT in the #UBUNTU CHANNEL ..... I said IF YOU ARE HERE FOR SUPPORT ASK ME , I'm HAPPY TO HELP...   "  I got banned kicked the first time for that??? and FOR Occasional USE of CAPS
[18:14] <rww> detai: this is going around in circles. come back tomorrow when you're not worked up, and we'll find an operator to discuss your bans with you
[18:14] <rww> detai: have a nice rest of your day.
[18:15] <detai> rww: please I already told you I can and will AT WILL get past your pathetic PowerTripping FIlters
[18:15] <rww> no? alrighty then
[18:16] <rww> @comment 71004 unable to do ban resolution due to user attitude, banned until tomorrow to prevent further escalation/arguing, 12h
[18:47] <rww> @comment 71007 ban-evasion, non-support trolling
[19:20] <k1l> now he found open proxies
[19:21] <rww> oh well. takes him longer to reconnect than it takes us to ban him
[20:02] <k1l> chanserv is slow
 ok, thank you guys, I will get back to that another day
[21:27] <k1l_> i bet its running fine now
[21:34] <genii> Heh