=== jonas1 is now known as jgdx [00:34] I've just installed Ubuntu on Nexus 4 with a compeletely broken touchscreen. Any advice on how can I get past the welcome screen? [00:36] int_ua: What do you really hope to achieve?? Without touch, you're stuck [00:37] int_ua: not sure if you could even use that as a server [00:38] Also, the wiki page is empty and it's not redirected to the new page that I've found in the history of changes. [00:39] "the" wiki page? [00:39] mcphail: Currently, just trying what it can do [00:39] mcphail: Oh, sorry, the Install wiki page [00:41] USB mouse connected with OTG cable is not even powered yet. And dmesg contains stack trace from /build/linux-mako-KtaydK/linux-mako-3.4.0/kernel/smp.c:320 smp_call_function_single+0xbc/0x1c8() [00:41] the install wiki page isn't blank here. Takes a second or 2 to load, though. [00:42] I didn't notice the Firefox request to redirect me. Sorry again. [00:44] int_ua: not sure if you can do the initial setup without having touch. I suspect this is going to be frustrating [00:45] Tried to apt-get dist-upgrade it and it was stuck after stopping bluetooth, when I tried to reboot it by holding power, it stopped booting (just showing google logo forever), had to re-flash it. [00:45] mcphail: yes, thanks, I didn't expect much, just experimenting [00:46] int_ua: you can get shell without unlocking lock screen and enabling dev mode? [00:46] However, it would be great if it could work on devices with broken touchscreen [00:46] adb shell [00:46] dev mode, of course [00:47] int_ua: how did you get dev mode? How did you unlock screen? [00:48] Switched off Android, holded Down+Power, then clicked Up and Power [00:48] after executing fastbook unlock [00:48] won't that just get you into recovery? [00:49] that allowed ubuntu-device-flash to work [00:49] yep - but how do you enable dev mode when installed if you can't unlock the screen? [00:50] mcphail: didn't, had to reflash first time [00:51] and now started openssh-server but still can't login by network [00:53] Well, whatever you are doing, good luck. I can't understand your actions. I'm off to bed. Good night [00:55] thanks! :) [01:04] you shouldn't upgrade the device with apt [01:04] if you want to run a headless server on it, it might be better to figure out how to install an ubuntu-server image onto the device [01:07] ok, thanks [01:07] I'm not planning to use it for long, just testing [01:08] Can't wait until an official device that have a shipping option to Ukraine [01:09] <_Sponge> the Ukraine ? [01:10] hmm, i wonder if i could get android 4.4 onto the pre3 [01:12] _Sponge: are you trying to insult me? [01:14] country names didn't need "the" last time I checked [01:16] the grand duchy of luxembourg kind of does, in English anyway :) [01:16] int_ua: i don't think _Sponge was trying to insult, but indeed the question was a bit odd [01:23] dobey: didn't know, thanks for the info :) [01:26] <_Sponge> Quick price checker : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ubuntu-bq-Aquaris-E4-5-/191784794554 [01:28] <_Sponge> £56 to £92 http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_nkw=Ubuntu+bq&_sop=16 [01:29] Thanks, but I prefer either to buy from an official source to show some support or at least a phone with native Convergence, whichever comes first [01:31] <_Sponge> int_ua: I'm just price-checking, t'is all. [01:32] dobey: Luxembourg doesn't have "The" according to UK government [01:32] mcphail: when UK speak English, i'll let you know :) [01:33] dobey: :) - just The Gambia and The Bahamas [01:33] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/country-names/country-names-the-permanent-committee-on-geographical-names-for-british-official-use [01:34] the congo [01:34] ;) [01:35] I'm sure "the congo" is just as much an insult as "the ukraine" :/ [01:35] mcphail: democratic republic of the congo is the full name of course [01:37] Countries which were named after rivers or land-features are often, wrongly, given the definite article [01:37] mcphail: in English it is fairly common to place "the" in front of countries when referring to them. ie, the United States, the United Kingdom [01:37] anyway [01:37] whatever [01:38] how do i get android 4.4 onto a pre 3 [01:38] * mcphail definitely needs to get to bed or back on topic [01:39] ok, for some reason openssh don't want to allow password authentication and adb shell can't work with passwd and nano correctly, something wrong with sending newlines. Enough for today. Leaving now, thanks to all. [01:39] int_ua: use phablet-shell [01:39] trying [01:40] it creates an ssh connection over usb [01:41] didn't work without arguments and while investigating I've found this: phablet-config welcome-wizard --disable [01:47] Still Permission denied (publickey). Will try to continue tomorrow, maybe with a newer OS image, thanks. [02:05] davidcalle: is there a limit on how many people can participate in my team for the Scopes Showdown? [02:11] <_Sponge> the moon. [02:14] davidcalle: it seems not after reading the Terms of Entry [02:19] hi [02:19] hi [02:20] in multirom utouch dont show the ota update version number [02:20] its always showing version 23, 22, 21...... for rtm version [02:20] version [02:21] so question is whichone is latest version of utouch on multirom manager [02:21] latest for what? [02:23] image numbers are not uniform across channels [02:27] and i guess the image number is also not aligned with the ota release # for stable channel either === swex_ is now known as swex === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [07:02] How does the Gallery apps sort pictures ? I copied some pictures and I have 3months of picture in one day [07:28] anyone received ota9 yet? [07:30] I'm lame and use proposed channel [07:32] Tm_T: hehe, im on rc proposed on n7 aswell [07:32] lets check my bq.. === swex_ is now known as swex [09:16] how often does the wifi poll for networks? [09:26] Hi, would it be possible for the Ubuntu team to develop a messenger on the basis of openwhisper's Signal that works on the Ubuntu phone and preferably also on the desktop? [09:27] I think that is a very important feature that is missing [09:30] Kajover, https://uappexplorer.com/app/textsecure.jani === flux__ is now known as o === o is now known as Guest41307 [09:36] flux_, thank you but it misses the call option. I think I have to rephrase it.. I think it would be great if it became a core app. The iMessage for Ubuntu [09:40] Kajover: I’d prefer a native XMPP client :-P [09:41] or this but you would need to be online all the time for OTR messaging [09:41] and this cannot really be feasible for delayed messages [09:43] Good morning all! Happy Wednesday, and happy Chocolate Cake Day! 🙌 🎂 === nik90_ is now known as nik90 [09:44] Kajover: but you already have telegram that will destroy messages for you if you want them uber secure :) [09:49] … [09:50] bonjour pitti [09:50] bonjour jibel, ça va ? c'était longtemps ! [09:51] pitti, very good thanks. and you? [09:51] jibel: ça va bien aussi -- en route à Louvain, pour revoir des amis avant FOSDEM ce week-end [09:52] pitti, ah right, didrocks and seb128 will attend fosdem too? [09:53] jibel: only didrocks [09:53] jibel: but also at least xnox, Laney, and larsu [09:53] pitti, great, say hi from me :) [09:53] I will! [09:53] I'm not traveling much recently and didn't met them since a while [09:53] pitti, I'm probably going to stop by on friday evening [09:54] pitti, are you still taking care of upower on ubuntu? [09:54] pitti, there are a couple of bugs on the phone [09:54] jibel: ish; I hardly have time to look into plumbing stuff, maintaining -proposed and developing the infra takes up most of my time [09:55] jibel: I saw that I got a phone-related upower bug assigned this morning [09:55] jibel: not sure when I'll get to that; also, I hope we still have mako images, as that's the only device I have [09:55] pitti, there are bug 1537668 and bug 1538470 [09:55] bug 1537668 in Canonical System Image "upower charge history doesn't update when device resumes from suspend" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1537668 [09:55] bug 1538470 in upower (Ubuntu) "inconsistencies in upower history" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1538470 [09:56] pitti, upower seems to be confused when the phone suspends/resumes and with the state changes too === hasselmm1 is now known as hasselmm [09:57] pitti, anyone in foundation who could have a look? [09:58] jibel: not sure, and I guess if you ask slangasek he'll just punt it back to me anyway :) [09:58] pitti, okay :) [09:58] jibel: but this might be reproducible on a desktop too [10:00] pitti, I couldn't reproduce on desktop, some of the bugs might be due to the battery meter on the phone or the calibration of the battery but I'd like to narrow them down before involving hw people [10:00] jibel: or better yet, a test case; like, set up a fake battery, SIGSTOP upower, change the battery, SIGCONT upower, send it the "I resumed" dbus signal (I think there is one), and see what happens [10:00] right, this one should be reproducible, it's the 1rst bug I pasted. [10:00] I didn't find a test case for the second bug though === hasselmm1 is now known as hasselmm [10:01] jibel: capturing grep -r . /sys/class/power_supply/ before and after suspend would be useful [10:02] jibel: and running "udevadm monitor -e --udev" around suspend [10:03] jibel: then this captures everythign that upower can see about this device, and would help with understanding/reproducing/writing a test [10:03] jibel: and I supposed pretty much anyone with that device can do that [10:03] pitti, it's more or less what I'm doing + the content of /sys/devices/platform/battery_meter for devices that expose it [10:05] jibel: ah, if you have that already, mind attaching that to #1537668? [10:08] pitti, okay [10:11] seb128: I might be in Brussels on Friday for the systemd sprint, but not Friday night [10:12] pitti, ok, I might come to say hi in the afternoon [10:15] no beer event for you pitti ? :) [10:20] sil2100, Hi, as I see the OTA9 images are already on the system-image server, when can we except the release? :) [10:20] robin-hero_: in a few minutes I begin phasing, still writing up the final e-mail ;) [10:21] they are supposed to be pushed today AFAIK? [10:21] sil2100, awesome! :) thanks for the info [10:21] or maybe tomorrow for some === sil2100 changed the topic of #ubuntu-touch to: Home: http://bit.ly/YEqEfo | Install: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | Porting (advanced) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | Bug filing: http://bit.ly/1aV9AJG | Dashboard: http://bit.ly/12AQV53 | Changelog: http://bit.ly/1ljube1 | http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html | http://www.meizu.com/products/ubuntu.html | OTA-9 phased updates in progress! [10:27] If any of you gets the update and finds some critical issue, please be sure to give us a quick heads up on the mailing list :) [10:48] say that to popey, he always gets the update in the first round :D [10:49] How big a download is the update ? (So that I know how much time I’ll need a connection ^^) [10:50] i think i found the biggest battery consumer on my n4: the old battery itself :X === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:13] * mcphail is considering skipping OTA9 and waiting for OTA9.5, as 8.5 is running so well [11:20] ota9 not available on my bq 4.5 @ 12h20 european timezone [11:20] ill try later on the day :p [12:05] :D [12:06] mcphail, dont't want to lose uptime? :P [12:06] no OTA-9 yet, but I just discovered that there is a FOSDEM schedule app now :) [12:08] mcphail, you would make a big mistake, OTA-9 is much better than OTA-8.5 :) [12:09] JanC: nice1, wich phone you have? [12:13] JanC, whoever wrote it should also create a telegram group and add a link to the app to join it ;) (we just did that at SCaLE .... was a lot of fun that youcould distinctively say who in the creowd owns an ubuntu phone by all the ubuntu notification sounds in the room) [12:15] https://uappexplorer.com/app/fosdem-qml.delijati / https://github.com/delijati/fosdem-qml [12:41] how often does Ubuntu Touch check for wifi networks? [12:48] zetheroo: voodoo and black magic.....I'm guessing are not the answers you are after.....Network manager and wpasupplicant iirc [12:49] zetheroo: I think they have a timing of upto 2-3 minutes iirc depending on when you last landed between them [12:49] davmor2: "how often" denotes a question of time, not "how" or "what" [12:49] ok [12:49] from experience i'd say it refreshes multiple times per minute though [12:50] orga_: yes, definitely more frequent than every 2 - 3 min [12:50] ogra_: between the 2 yes but it can be as long as 2-3 minutes [12:50] but I found it's not as quick with finding new networks on-the-move as Android [12:51] ogra_, zetheroo: It depends where in which cycle you disconnect and connect and so on [12:51] davmor2: not sure i follow - if I am connected to a wifi network and then i move out of range of that wifi network what does Ubuntu do? [12:58] zetheroo: so network manager aiui scans every x seconds however wpasuplicant can hold a connection to a service for x minutes so if you suspend your device go somewhere else and unsuspend wpasupplicant can still be holding you old connection it will drop that after if finishes it's x minute cycle at which point network manager really scans and finds new ap's [12:59] is that a "feature" ? :D [13:00] zetheroo: it a big timing mess that is slowly being sorted, it's because the bits we are using are not designed for mobiles that spend a lot of time asleep but for laptops where effectively suspend is shutdown not an active state [13:00] i have Aquaris E5 Ubuntu Phone, and it stuck at start up, how can i flash my phone, or what else can i do ? [13:02] fati: give it a couple of minutes sometimes it is because the apparmor profiles need to build if you have freshly flashed it or just fired it up for the first time [13:02] davmor2: ah I see [13:03] so it's officially a "bug" then and is being sorted out .. === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:04] zetheroo: it is being worked on slowly, as it is quite a few deep moving parts and it obviously can't break desktop for 16.04 at the same time and lots of tweaking timings, it really isn't fun but yes the devs are well aware of the issue [13:44] davmor2: ok cool - thanks for the info [13:46] mterry, hey, you guys moved mouse settings from gsettings to AccountsService, I wonder if we should do the same for kbd settings? === ajalkane_ is now known as ajalkane [13:46] jgdx, might make sense... our rationale was that the user would be surprised if their input settings changed when they were on the login greeter [13:47] jgdx, things like keyboard layouts are already stored in AS on the desktop for that reason [13:50] mterry, where are they stored? InputSources is there, but not the other ones: [13:50] mterry, ohm http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14679026/ [13:50] * jgdx has weechat issues [13:51] jgdx, sorry what is that pastebin of? [13:52] mterry, part of a proposed change to u8's gsettings schema === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:54] jgdx, I added a new AccountsService Input schema in this approved branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas/input-schema/+merge/283546 [13:54] jgdx, that might be a good place to put other input settings [13:54] mterry, I think so too [13:55] mterry, do those “work”? [13:55] jgdx, not all of them yet. I have a branch that's about to land to let the cursor speed ones work [14:00] nice review http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/01/best-new-features-in-ubuntu-phone-ota-9 [14:13] i have Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Edition, it stuck at start up screen, should i flash my phone or what else can i do? [14:22] Can I ship custom initrd script in boot.img? I want to override boot reason detection in my phone. [14:32] hello! [14:33] have anyone received OTA-9 and can tell about the experience yet? [14:36] pete-woods1: hey [14:42] jgdx: hey dude. you've just made me realise I still haven't replied to your email :$ [14:42] pete-woods1: my plan is proceeding just as I planned *rubs hands* [14:43] jgdx: just before Dec, I landed support into connectivity API for editing VPN connections [14:43] I also pushed out a prototype GUI in a click package for doing the editing [14:43] jgdx: I was hoping you could kinda rip off the (QML) code for it [14:43] it's fully featured [14:43] but of my own design layout-wise [14:44] so maybe the various fields, etc could be laid out better [14:44] to match the proper design [14:47] pete-woods1: right, I saw that and it was awesome. What I wanted to discuss is whether we should keep the qml and bindings in the Connectivity API tree, since I hear talk that it could be separated from indicator-network in the future. [14:48] pete-woods1: the qml and bindings for VPN has to be in a package both wizard and USS can dep on. [14:51] jgdx: I have no plans to do that separation. I only recently pulled the bindings into indicator-network [14:52] jgdx: but sure, we can have a new binary package that includes the QML stuff [14:52] that has minimal dependencies === pete-woods1 is now known as pete-woods [15:17] pete-woods: a new package? [15:17] so not connectivity-api [15:38] jgdx: the connectivity-api LP package is abandoned now, as it's been merged into indicator-network [15:38] I admit that indicator-network is a bad package name now [15:38] as it contains both the UI (the actual indicator) and the connectivity-service / API [15:38] pete-woods: networking-components-qt ? [15:39] but from a code perspective, it makes a lot of sense [15:39] jgdx: for downstream users, we can have whatever we want [15:39] i.e. the binary package names can be like you propose [15:39] I think we probably could put the QML into the existing QML package [15:40] qml-module-ubuntu-connectivity [15:40] seems pretty reasonable in that regard [15:40] is there a terminal command to push the ota9 update? [15:42] lotuspsychje: "ut-update-service --pretty-pretty-please" [15:42] mcphail: tnx lemme try that [15:42] lotuspsychje: if you're desparate, if you flash an alternative channel then flash back to stable that should do the job [15:43] * mcphail 's spelling is worse than usual today [15:43] hehe [15:44] lotuspsychje: sudo apt-get_me-my-ota9-already-djeeeeez [15:44] lol [15:44] im not that desperate [15:46] you might be able to do a new flash of the stable channel without switching away [15:48] ill wait like a good boy :p [15:51] http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-ota-9-is-officially-released-499493.shtml [15:51] mcphail: your also a 'lucky one' :p [15:52] lotuspsychje: I'm sitting tight on OTA8.5 just now. i suspect my resolve will hold out for at least 12 hours [15:52] kk [15:54] I've found the .5 releases to be the best, and, as there is already talk of OTA9.5, I'm going to try to wait. But I think I might not get new Dekko in that case. And I love a bit of dekko [15:54] mcphail: your gonna crack :p ill come every day telling you how nice the new dekko is :p [15:54] mcphail, yeah you won't get new Dekko. (preparing the update as we speak :-) ) [15:55] grr [15:55] hehe [15:55] hmpf [15:56] davmor2, my screen doesnt shut off on todays rc-proposed mx4 (i can press the power button, screen turns off but turns back on 3 sec later) ... could you check if you see anything similar ? [15:56] seems to be since todays update [15:57] ogra_: and if you reboot [15:57] well, i only rebooted for the update yet ... [15:57] * ogra_ tries [15:59] ogra_, I noticed that yesterday too [15:59] works now after reboot [15:59] but didn't reproduce after a reboot [16:00] yeah [16:00] i had it several times during SCaLE last week that the device was hard locked "due to to many wrong unlock attempts" for 5 min when i pulled it out of pocket [16:00] ogra_: I hit it today too I blame Saviq obviously :) [16:01] i wasnt sure if i didnt simply press the power button by accident though [16:01] if that "cant turn off screen" issue is around longer, that would explain this though [16:03] hey everybody [16:03] can i run ubuntu touch on a Elephone P7000 mobilephone? [16:04] is this possible? [16:04] as i said in the other channel ... [16:04] if you have the android 4.4 source and all the binary blobs for it you could attempt a port [16:05] (and indeed if the minimal HW specs are fulfilled) [16:05] the phone have android 5 [16:05] what are the minimal hw specs? [16:06] note though that porting is not trivial ... you need a lot knowledge about both systems [16:06] dobey, (G diskspace, 1G ram ... dual core at least [16:06] 8G diskspace [16:06] there used to be a wikipage that defined them ... not sure that still exists [16:07] http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B013UUHJXW?ie=UTF8&ref_=de_a_smtd&showDetailTechData=1#technical-data [16:07] Rückfahrkamera 13.0MP [16:07] LOL [16:08] hehe [16:08] well,, that should be fine at least [16:08] ogra_: dual core because single would be too slow? or? [16:08] though the currently supported devices are all based off 4.4 ... there is 5.0 stuff in the works but not sure how ready that is to be used for random ports [16:09] dobey, yeah, it would hang a lot on IO [16:09] hmm [16:10] single core arm is fine for IoT devices .... not so much if you want to have the HW responsive while it processes something [16:10] oh nice new gmail app makes new sounds! [16:10] ogra_: well, it's plenty responsive with webos [16:11] it might also be responsive with ubuntu .... no idea [16:11] will be hard to find any armv7 device with single core and a display nowadays anyway [16:12] ogra_: it's hard to find any new device that's not as big as a laptop nowadays anyway [16:12] yeah [16:13] ogra_: but i started wondering last night if i could maybe get ubuntu ported to my pre3. [16:13] technically for sure .. practically it wouldnt be fun i guess though [16:13] can you speak german? [16:14] ogra_: well i guess it would be easier if CM had a port to it, but they only have a touchpad port it seems [16:14] !de > Matthias01 we have a german ubuntu channel here, but not phone specific [16:14] Matthias01, please see my private message [16:18] ogra can you change to kubuntu german channel [16:18] ? [16:26] pmcgowan, do you know if calendar syncing will be fixed any time in the future ? i havent been able to sync my gcal in weeks now [16:26] Matthias01, i'd prefer not to, whats the issue ? [16:27] (note that i cant help you much with the phone, i havent touched phone code in a year now) [16:27] ogra_, I was not aware it was broken [16:27] we havent touched that afaik === nuclearbob is now known as nuclearbob_afk [16:28] pmcgowan, weird ... it seems to push events i add on the phone, but gives me an error if i want to sync down from gcal [16:28] hmm [16:28] I can try it here in a min [16:28] ogra_, I did not see anyone report an issue [16:28] and thats going on since a while .... i think there was even a ML thread about it [16:29] yeah, from december [16:29] hmm foo [16:29] and another one from this saturday [16:29] wonder if google changed something [16:30] doubtful [16:30] yeah [16:30] but indeed they always could ... though i think thats actrually the one google thing with a properly documented API :) [16:32] ogra_, the note from sat was more how does this work [16:33] ah, sorry, i only did a subject search in evolution [16:34] ogra_, and mitchell is seeing 1 of 3 cals sync only [16:34] not sure about that [16:34] may be more of an account issue [16:34] well, i cant sync my @canonical calendar ... thats actually the only one i need/use [16:34] let me delete the account and recreate [16:37] orga does it mean that you think it works at this phone? [16:37] Matthias01: it mens it can probably be ported to that phone [16:38] Matthias01: see the porting guide in the topic if you want to attempt it [16:38] Matthias01, i dont know [16:39] Matthias01, all i know is that the phone team started working on a 5.0 port and on a 64bit port after i moved to another team [16:40] i cant tell you anything about the status of either of these, you have to ask someone from the phone team about more details [16:45] ogra_, davmor2, I blame your pockets [16:46] i wonder if i could just replace the cpu in the pre3 with a krait instead. [16:46] Saviq: I blame you! [16:53] pmcgowan, ok, deleting and re-adding the account fixed my calendar it seems ... [16:54] so i can blame dobey :P [16:54] excellent :) [16:54] * dobey is not canada [16:55] and not popey either i guess [17:04] pmcgowan, hmm, but there is something else thats odd with the calendar app here [17:04] seems all events start at 0:00 for me [17:04] so if i have an even entry in the UI the whole day is colored from 0:00 until the envent ends [17:05] sergiusens: mvo: can you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image/+bug/1464754 and let me know if you're happy with the approach we're taking in the two attached branches? [17:05] Launchpad bug 1464754 in goget-ubuntu-touch (Ubuntu) "Support for Device aliases" [Undecided,New] [17:06] sil2100: slangasek ^^ can you do the same for the server-side branch? [17:07] pmcgowan, like this for all days i have events http://i.imgur.com/57GcO3f.png [17:07] wtf [17:07] mariogrip: can you add a link to the bug showing what the resulting json is on your server? [17:07] hmmm [17:08] ogra_, I think its bug time [17:08] heh, yeah [17:08] mhall119, mariogrip maybe an MP might help spotting changes easier; mind creating one? [17:09] mhall119: would have to take a look at that proposition first [17:09] sil2100: the tl;dr is that some devices use more than one codename, which confuses ubuntu-device-flash, so mariogrip added the ability to list known aliases for a device [17:10] mhall119, it is weird that they use the same codename though; I would suspect they are mostly the same, but also different in some way [17:10] pmcgowan, bah, fixed itself after a few restarts of the app :/ [17:10] oh no [17:10] random breakage, yay [17:10] sounds like an app bug [17:10] mhall119, like flo and deb [17:11] yeah [17:11] etoomanybugs [17:11] yup [17:13] sergiusens: no, like the OnePlus One reports one codename when booted into recovery, and another codename when booted into Android/Ubuntu [17:13] one device, multiple codenames, not the other way around [17:13] sergiusens: also different names on different android roms [17:14] mhall119, oh, that is messed up indeed [17:14] mariogrip, that seems hacked up though ;-) [17:14] we can support it; but it seems someone branched the vendor branch for a product and didn't update the strings when porting [17:15] I can see some merit in having alias support in system-image, but this really seems more like a broken case [17:16] Anyway, will look at the branch [17:16] thanks sil2100 [17:16] this would make supporting a few community ports much easier [17:16] otherwise users need to find out what device name they have to specify on the commandline [17:17] should I MP it? [17:17] mariogrip: I guess that would be good, easier to review [17:17] :) [17:18] sil2100: done :) [17:20] mariogrip: thanks! Will take a look at it tomorrow in the morning! (deep in other stuff right now) [17:20] sil2100: That's fine [17:38] Can I ship custom initrd script in boot.img? I want to override boot reason detection in my phone. === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:11] sil2100: is there a reason that lp:ubuntu-syste-image points to an empty branch? [18:11] should it point to something like lp:~ubuntu-system-image/ubuntu-system-image/server ? [18:13] mhall119, it's on lp git, that's why [18:14] oh... [18:14] s-i is on git now ? [18:14] ugh [18:14] so then, is a bzr MP the wrong way to submit changes to it? [18:15] mhall119: lp:ubuntu-system-image image points to the client by default, which is in git IIRC [18:15] mhall119: you need to use lp:ubuntu-system-image/server as the target [18:15] the evil git mafia is slowly taking over :P [18:15] mariogrip: ^^ can you re-create your MP to target that branch? [18:16] Correction: lp:~ubuntu-system-image/ubuntu-system-image/server [18:16] Need to fix the alias since I see it got lost! [18:17] i'll do that [18:19] sil2100: fixed [18:27] ooh [18:27] the new blackbeerry would be a nice device to get ubuntu on [18:27] if only it was smaller [18:29] there is a new BB ? [18:29] * ogra_ only heard about the slider and that had pretty awful reviews about the mechanic quality [18:34] ogra_: Perhaps they mean the Priv [18:35] genii, thats the one i mean, yeah [18:36] The CPU in that one is notorious for overheating ( Snapdragon 808) [18:37] Hey guys. Does ubuntu touch have a terminal like the desktop ubuntu / unity terminal? can I sudo from it, etc? [18:37] indeed [18:38] ogra_, and can regular android apps on playstore be run on ubuntu touch? [18:38] no [18:39] then why do people use ubuntu touch over regular android? [18:39] to not be spyed on ? because they like linux more than some java execution env ... dunno [18:40] ogra_, true, but if you can't run whatsapp, facebook, etc, that's kind of a deal breaker [18:41] there is telegram instead ogf whatsapp and there is a facebook webapp ... [18:41] it really depends on your needs [18:42] there is also a facebook scope with pretty good integration [18:42] ogra_, yeah, but i can't get the rest of the world to use telegram [18:43] well, i personally dont talk to the rest of the world ... and my friends are fine to use telegram to talk to me [18:43] ogra_, haha [18:44] how long is your beard? [18:44] 4mm :) [18:44] lol [18:45] Anyway, so I might keep android on phone, and install touch on tablet, if it means i can use terminal like normal ubuntu on tablet [18:45] yes [18:45] how hard is it to install touch on a new samsung galaxy tablet? [18:45] and can you still watch youtube, use chrome, etc right? [18:45] if you deeply know android and ubuntu it possibly takes you a month of work [18:46] if not then it takes longer [18:46] ogra_, really...... [18:46] why so long [18:47] ubuntu runs a little android container to make the binary drivers work ... to build that container you need to know a lot about how you build android and how to rip out 99% of it (but keep the HW related bits) [18:47]