tweetyanyone compiled Pidgin from source?00:41
knomei am sure somebody has done that sometime.00:41
tweetyI could use help from that somebody :)00:42
knomeif it's about compiling pidgin, maybe you should ask the pidgin channel00:42
tweetyexcept thay may not know the quirks of xubuntu00:43
knomeso... why are you compiling pidgin to begin with?00:44
tweetyneed a newer ver than 2.10.900:45
tweetyfor one of the plugins00:45
knomeand which xubuntu version are you running?00:46
krytariktweety: There is an official PPA for it.00:46
tweetykrytarik: ppa?00:47
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge00:47
krytariktweety: https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa00:48
tweetykrytarik: it says there: "This PPA is deprecated.00:54
tweety 00:54
tweetyInstall the packages from the official Ubuntu repositories, or build from source instead"00:54
krytariktweety: Does it have the version of Pidgin you need for your version of Ubuntu?  Yes, it does.00:58
tweetykrytarik: depends on how you read this: "1:2.10.11-1ubuntu0+pidgin7.14.10 ";  does that mean that the pidgin version here is 2.10.11 or 7.14.10?01:03
tweetythen what the heck is 7.14.10?01:04
knomeplease keep calm01:05
krytariktweety: Since you said you are on 14.04 anyway, that'd be "pidgin7" + "14.04" there.01:05
tweetyknome: I was trying to be funny :)01:06
tweetykrytarik: hmm, sorry, perhaps I am too slow now, but how do you decipher their version notation on that line; I mean what is pidgin 7?01:11
krytariktweety: Just some internal number.01:12
krytarikFtm, https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=superseded&field.series_filter=trusty01:14
tweetyok, so if I am running 14.o4, should I be getting 1:2.10.11-1ubuntu0+pidgin7.14.10 from your earlier link or pidgin - 1:2.10.11-1ubuntu0+pidgin6.14.04 from your last one?01:21
krytariktweety: '1:2.10.11-1ubuntu0+pidgin7.14.04' would be what's offered to you by the package manager - notice the "14.04" at the end there as well.01:25
krytariktweety: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them01:28
tweetykrytarik: I've used ppa's bfr; I guess I habbitually went to the latest ver #... and sailed by 14.04...  tired eyes...01:31
tweetyto sum up, then, you are sure that 2.10.12 isn't available yet (a search for pidgin here  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas gives too many options to check)?01:33
krytariktweety: I wouldn't be bothered to check any further, you got what you need.01:37
knome(and it's you who need the newer version, not krytarik)01:37
tweetyI am just tired and was hoping for a shortcut, thanks guys :)01:43
tweetyafter installing from a ppa get: "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required. Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.".  So each of the "no longer required" packages are not removed automaticaly by the instal process and myst be removed individually by hand?02:45
krytariktweety: Read that message again.02:46
krytarikIf by "individually by hand" you mean "sudo apt-get autoremove", then yes.02:48
tweetylet me refrase, I only need to issue the command "sudo apt-get autoremove" once to remove them all?03:27
tweetynot to issue the same command for every package individually right?03:28
tweetythank God!03:31
tweetyalso, does autoremove remove all unnecessary packages that acumulated on the system to date, or just the ones created after the latest instal operation?03:33
tweetygenerally all to date?03:35
tweetygood, so I don't have to keep track of useless junk if I dodn't have time to deal with it right there and then !  krytarik: you are just a source of good news today :)03:37
krytarikI laughed, ftm. :P03:39
tweetyseriously though, thanks for all the help03:41
tweetyand now, time for sleep03:41
xubuntu179@benonsoftware hey ben, how's it ben?05:16
xubuntu79ihello !11:08
xubuntu79iI discover this OS !11:08
xubuntu79iI taked the 15.10 it's a good idea ?11:10
svetlanawelcome to xubuntu11:11
svetlanaand also welcome to freenode, which is where the xubuntu's channel lives, as well as many other sister channels11:11
svetlanahi again11:16
xubuntu90dSorry my PC reboot11:16
svetlanait's ok, it took you right back in11:16
xubuntu90dYes, it's very nice, I a have a new PC... more speed11:17
xubuntu90dIn three months I can install the LTS version, but why VLC is not supported ?11:19
svetlanaodd. where do you see that?11:19
xubuntu90dIt's not in the base package !11:20
svetlanawhere are youuu11:25
Luyinhe's gone11:25
svetlanai think it's not built-in and he wants to install it in software center11:25
Luyinprobably, yes11:25
AfdalHey can someone tell me what file stores the settings managed by Settings -> Appearance?12:13
xubuntu59dHello !13:14
xubuntu59dThis time I have my French Xubuntu it's great !13:14
xubuntu59dI my recup my configuration Thunderbird and Firefox !13:15
xubuntu59dSorry I must !13:15
AfdalCan anyone tell me where all the applications menu settings are stored?13:56
AfdalI'm making a custom Xubuntu build and I want to modify the default menu slightly13:58
Guest13960problem installing gadmei usb tv stick utv38014:20
Afdalis it just xfce-applications.menu?14:21
Afdalor does xfce-settings-manager.menu control some aspect too?14:21
Afdaloh wait14:21
Afdalthe settings manager is just the settings submenu isn't it14:22
Guest13960actually im new on xubuntu14:23
AfdalWhat about /etc/xdg/menus/?14:23
manifolderoh no wonder14:26
manifolderthe new menu is called whisker not application menu14:26
AfdalI'm primarily concerned with the application menu, since it also affects the menu when you right-click on desktop14:27
Guest13960ok lets try14:28
manifoldershows the defaults14:29
manifolderso if youre setting up a build I'd edit that14:29
AfdalI'm not sure that's right >.>14:30
Afdalhold on14:31
Afdalseems like that just concerns the Whisker menu-exclusive elements of the Whisker menu14:34
Afdalyeah I don't think that's what I'm looking for14:35
Afdal /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu  and /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/menus/xfce-applications.menu seem to be what I want but I'm not sure which is which14:36
AfdalOkay lemme describe what I wanna do actually14:38
AfdalI want to take my settings from .config/menus14:38
Afdaland copy them to wherever the base file is14:39
Afdalpresuming that's even a good idea14:39
Afdalthe .config/menus file on my current system has a lot of entries for applications that won't be already installed on this livecd build14:40
Afdalthat'll probably mess something up won't it14:40
Afdalyou know what, I think /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu is just for Xfce sessions14:44
Afdalnot a Xubuntu session...14:44
sidiCan anyone please confirm that they can't execute any shell script inside /run? like, sudo echo -e "#!/bin/sh\necho Hello" > /run/foo && chmod +x /run/foo && /run/foo15:57
AfdalSo uh18:33
AfdalI"m sure this issue has been brought up before18:33
Afdalbut light locker doesn't want to disable screen blanking when running fullscreen applications18:34
AfdalThe supposed fix found here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/130974418:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1309744 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] Light Locker blanks the screen when playing video" [Medium,Fix released]18:34
AfdalThere is one easy workaround: replace the '' in line 435 with 'xfce' and it should work.18:34
AfdalI checked my xdg-screensaver script and it seems to have already been applied18:35
xubuntu91dI'm trying to upgrade from Xubuntu 14.04 to 15.10 but I need to make a pit-stop at 15.04. The automatic upgrade does not seem to want to start even though I click the "Upgrade" button.19:35
xubuntu91dCan someone give me a link to download 15.04 so I can burn it to CD? Can't find the archives.19:35
geniixubuntu91d: Probably better to try: sudo do-release-upgrade   ...and see what that does first19:38
xubuntu91dOkay, I'll give that a try.19:39
xubuntu91d"An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade."19:41
xubuntu91d=== Command terminated with exit status 1 (Wed Jan 27 14:40:05 2016) ===19:41
xubuntu91dCould be that I have CUDA 7.5 shoehorned in here. Thanks for the tip. I'll keep at it.19:43
krytarikxubuntu91d: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/could-not-calculate-the-upgrade-what-happened19:44
xubuntu91dYes, looks like most arrows point to proprietary video drivers.19:46
marccAnybody know how to change the alt-RMB window movement shortcut?21:22
svetlanaright mouse button :-)21:28
Luyinmarcc: xfce settings manager > window manager tweaks > accessibility > key to grab and move windows21:33
LuyinI actually love it that nearly every "[how] can I" question regarding xfce can be answered ^^21:33
marccLuyin: that works great! Thank you.21:35
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