[00:41] <tweety> anyone compiled Pidgin from source?
[00:41] <knome> i am sure somebody has done that sometime.
[00:42] <tweety> I could use help from that somebody :)
[00:42] <knome> if it's about compiling pidgin, maybe you should ask the pidgin channel
[00:43] <tweety> except thay may not know the quirks of xubuntu
[00:43] <tweety> *they
[00:44] <knome> so... why are you compiling pidgin to begin with?
[00:45] <tweety> need a newer ver than 2.10.9
[00:45] <tweety> for one of the plugins
[00:46] <knome> and which xubuntu version are you running?
[00:46] <krytarik> tweety: There is an official PPA for it.
[00:47] <tweety> krytarik: ppa?
[00:47] <krytarik> !ppa
[00:47] <ubottu> A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge
[00:48] <krytarik> tweety: https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[00:54] <tweety> krytarik: it says there: "This PPA is deprecated.
[00:54] <tweety>  
[00:54] <tweety> Install the packages from the official Ubuntu repositories, or build from source instead"
[00:58] <krytarik> tweety: Does it have the version of Pidgin you need for your version of Ubuntu?  Yes, it does.
[01:03] <tweety> krytarik: depends on how you read this: "1:2.10.11-1ubuntu0+pidgin7.14.10 ";  does that mean that the pidgin version here is 2.10.11 or 7.14.10?
[01:03] <knome> 2.10.11.
[01:04] <tweety> then what the heck is 7.14.10?
[01:05] <knome> please keep calm
[01:05] <krytarik> tweety: Since you said you are on 14.04 anyway, that'd be "pidgin7" + "14.04" there.
[01:06] <tweety> knome: I was trying to be funny :)
[01:11] <tweety> krytarik: hmm, sorry, perhaps I am too slow now, but how do you decipher their version notation on that line; I mean what is pidgin 7?
[01:12] <krytarik> tweety: Just some internal number.
[01:14] <krytarik> Ftm, https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=superseded&field.series_filter=trusty
[01:21] <tweety> ok, so if I am running 14.o4, should I be getting 1:2.10.11-1ubuntu0+pidgin7.14.10 from your earlier link or pidgin - 1:2.10.11-1ubuntu0+pidgin6.14.04 from your last one?
[01:25] <krytarik> tweety: '1:2.10.11-1ubuntu0+pidgin7.14.04' would be what's offered to you by the package manager - notice the "14.04" at the end there as well.
[01:28] <krytarik> tweety: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them
[01:31] <tweety> krytarik: I've used ppa's bfr; I guess I habbitually went to the latest ver #... and sailed by 14.04...  tired eyes...
[01:33] <tweety> to sum up, then, you are sure that 2.10.12 isn't available yet (a search for pidgin here  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas gives too many options to check)?
[01:37] <krytarik> tweety: I wouldn't be bothered to check any further, you got what you need.
[01:37] <knome> (and it's you who need the newer version, not krytarik)
[01:43] <tweety> I am just tired and was hoping for a shortcut, thanks guys :)
[02:45] <tweety> after installing from a ppa get: "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required. Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.".  So each of the "no longer required" packages are not removed automaticaly by the instal process and myst be removed individually by hand?
[02:46] <tweety> *must
[02:46] <krytarik> tweety: Read that message again.
[02:48] <krytarik> If by "individually by hand" you mean "sudo apt-get autoremove", then yes.
[03:27] <tweety> let me refrase, I only need to issue the command "sudo apt-get autoremove" once to remove them all?
[03:28] <tweety> not to issue the same command for every package individually right?
[03:29] <krytarik> Yep.
[03:31] <tweety> thank God!
[03:31] <krytarik> Heh.
[03:33] <tweety> also, does autoremove remove all unnecessary packages that acumulated on the system to date, or just the ones created after the latest instal operation?
[03:34] <krytarik> Generally.
[03:35] <tweety> generally all to date?
[03:35] <krytarik> Yep.
[03:37] <tweety> good, so I don't have to keep track of useless junk if I dodn't have time to deal with it right there and then !  krytarik: you are just a source of good news today :)
[03:39] <krytarik> I laughed, ftm. :P
[03:40] <tweety> :)
[03:41] <tweety> seriously though, thanks for all the help
[03:41] <tweety> and now, time for sleep
[03:43] <krytarik> G'night.
[03:43] <tweety> G'night
[05:16] <xubuntu179> @benonsoftware hey ben, how's it ben?
[11:08] <xubuntu79i> hello !
[11:08] <svetlana> hi
[11:08] <xubuntu79i> I discover this OS !
[11:10] <xubuntu79i> I taked the 15.10 it's a good idea ?
[11:11] <svetlana> yes
[11:11] <svetlana> welcome to xubuntu
[11:11] <svetlana> and also welcome to freenode, which is where the xubuntu's channel lives, as well as many other sister channels
[11:16] <svetlana> hi again
[11:16] <xubuntu90d> Sorry my PC reboot
[11:16] <svetlana> it's ok, it took you right back in
[11:17] <xubuntu90d> Yes, it's very nice, I a have a new PC... more speed
[11:19] <xubuntu90d> In three months I can install the LTS version, but why VLC is not supported ?
[11:19] <svetlana> odd. where do you see that?
[11:20] <xubuntu90d> It's not in the base package !
[11:25] <svetlana> where are youuu
[11:25] <Luyin> he's gone
[11:25] <svetlana> i think it's not built-in and he wants to install it in software center
[11:25] <Luyin> probably, yes
[12:13] <Afdal> Hey can someone tell me what file stores the settings managed by Settings -> Appearance?
[13:14] <xubuntu59d> Hello !
[13:14] <xubuntu59d> This time I have my French Xubuntu it's great !
[13:15] <xubuntu59d> I my recup my configuration Thunderbird and Firefox !
[13:15] <xubuntu59d> Sorry I must !
[13:20] <manifolder> hello
[13:56] <Afdal> Can anyone tell me where all the applications menu settings are stored?
[13:58] <Afdal> I'm making a custom Xubuntu build and I want to modify the default menu slightly
[14:17] <manifolder> /etc/xdg/xubuntu/menus/
[14:20] <Guest13960> problem installing gadmei usb tv stick utv380
[14:21] <Afdal> is it just xfce-applications.menu?
[14:21] <manifolder> apparently
[14:21] <Afdal> or does xfce-settings-manager.menu control some aspect too?
[14:21] <Afdal> oh wait
[14:22] <Afdal> the settings manager is just the settings submenu isn't it
[14:22] <Guest13960> yes
[14:23] <Guest13960> actually im new on xubuntu
[14:23] <Afdal> What about /etc/xdg/menus/?
[14:24] <Afdal> /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu
[14:24] <manifolder> checking
[14:26] <manifolder> oh no wonder
[14:26] <manifolder> the new menu is called whisker not application menu
[14:27] <Afdal> I'm primarily concerned with the application menu, since it also affects the menu when you right-click on desktop
[14:28] <manifolder> /usr/share/xfce4/whiskermenu
[14:28] <Guest13960> ok lets try
[14:29] <manifolder> shows the defaults
[14:29] <manifolder> so if youre setting up a build I'd edit that
[14:29] <Afdal> what
[14:30] <manifolder> /usr/share/xfce4/whiskermenu/defaults.rc
[14:30] <Afdal> <.<
[14:30] <manifolder> ?
[14:30] <Afdal> I...
[14:30] <Afdal> I'm not sure that's right >.>
[14:31] <manifolder> why?
[14:31] <Afdal> hmm
[14:31] <Afdal> hold on
[14:34] <Afdal> seems like that just concerns the Whisker menu-exclusive elements of the Whisker menu
[14:35] <Afdal> yeah I don't think that's what I'm looking for
[14:36] <Afdal>  /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu  and /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/menus/xfce-applications.menu seem to be what I want but I'm not sure which is which
[14:38] <Afdal> Okay lemme describe what I wanna do actually
[14:38] <Afdal> I want to take my settings from .config/menus
[14:39] <Afdal> and copy them to wherever the base file is
[14:39] <Afdal> presuming that's even a good idea
[14:40] <Afdal> the .config/menus file on my current system has a lot of entries for applications that won't be already installed on this livecd build
[14:40] <Afdal> that'll probably mess something up won't it
[14:44] <Afdal> you know what, I think /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu is just for Xfce sessions
[14:44] <Afdal> not a Xubuntu session...
[15:57] <sidi> Can anyone please confirm that they can't execute any shell script inside /run? like, sudo echo -e "#!/bin/sh\necho Hello" > /run/foo && chmod +x /run/foo && /run/foo
[18:33] <Afdal> So uh
[18:33] <Afdal> I"m sure this issue has been brought up before
[18:34] <Afdal> but light locker doesn't want to disable screen blanking when running fullscreen applications
[18:34] <Afdal> The supposed fix found here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/1309744
[18:34] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1309744 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] Light Locker blanks the screen when playing video" [Medium,Fix released]
[18:34] <Afdal> There is one easy workaround: replace the '' in line 435 with 'xfce' and it should work.
[18:35] <Afdal> I checked my xdg-screensaver script and it seems to have already been applied
[19:35] <xubuntu91d> I'm trying to upgrade from Xubuntu 14.04 to 15.10 but I need to make a pit-stop at 15.04. The automatic upgrade does not seem to want to start even though I click the "Upgrade" button.
[19:35] <xubuntu91d> Can someone give me a link to download 15.04 so I can burn it to CD? Can't find the archives.
[19:38] <genii> xubuntu91d: Probably better to try: sudo do-release-upgrade   ...and see what that does first
[19:39] <xubuntu91d> Okay, I'll give that a try.
[19:41] <xubuntu91d> "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade."
[19:41] <xubuntu91d> === Command terminated with exit status 1 (Wed Jan 27 14:40:05 2016) ===
[19:43] <xubuntu91d> Could be that I have CUDA 7.5 shoehorned in here. Thanks for the tip. I'll keep at it.
[19:44] <krytarik> xubuntu91d: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/could-not-calculate-the-upgrade-what-happened
[19:46] <xubuntu91d> Yes, looks like most arrows point to proprietary video drivers.
[21:22] <marcc> Anybody know how to change the alt-RMB window movement shortcut?
[21:26] <Luyin> rmb?
[21:28] <svetlana> right mouse button :-)
[21:33] <Luyin> marcc: xfce settings manager > window manager tweaks > accessibility > key to grab and move windows
[21:33] <Luyin> I actually love it that nearly every "[how] can I" question regarding xfce can be answered ^^
[21:35] <marcc> Luyin: that works great! Thank you.
[21:36] <Luyin> yw
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