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james1138_Hello from Indiana20:42
james1138_I am using a IBM Thinkpad T43 with 2 gig RAM, 60 gig hard drive and Lubuntu 14.04.3 using linux kernal 4.420:42
wxloooh 4.4 dangerous :)20:43
geniiheh20:43
wxlthat's not very lts of you XD20:43
james1138_Nah...20:43
wxl!info linux-generic xenial20:44
ubottulinux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.0.7.8 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 11 kB20:44
wxl!info linux-generic xenial-proposed20:44
ubottulinux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.1.0 (xenial-proposed), package size 1 kB, installed size 11 kB20:44
wxl4.4 is still stuck in proposed as you can see20:44
wxlbut it should be in the next lts20:44
james1138_Why wait for the good stuff.20:44
wxlisn't that what lts is all about? XD20:45
wxl(unless you use the linux-generic-lts-* packages)20:45
james1138_What is with "generic" WXL?20:46
wxljames1138_: as opposed to, e.g. rt20:47
wxlalthough i don't think we have rt in the regular repos20:47
james1138_Humm... I wonder would generic let me see more than 2 gig? I have 3 gig installed ans seen by the BIOS (recently updated to most curret version 1.29).20:48
wxli386 or amd64?20:49
wxlactually wait20:49
wxlthat shouldn't be an issue20:49
wxlmaybe a pae issue?20:49
wxl!pae20:49
ubottuUbuntu uses activated PAE Kernels on all installs now. Some older Hardware can have issues with that. For Troubleshooting see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE20:49
james1138_My CPU is .i386 Centrino 1.86 ghz20:50
wxlhm20:53
wxlyou SHOULD have a pae kernel20:53
wxlif you do it should be fine20:53
james1138_Should be fine... I wonder what I did wrong then? I even read about force-pae and still only see 2 gig.20:56
wxli don't know of any other suggestions to give if you're sure you're running a pae kernel20:57
james1138_Can I ask how to tell if my kernal is PAE?20:58
wxliwell i guess it's good to first check if you have the pae kernel21:00
wxli mean21:00
wxlthe pae support in the hardware21:00
wxlgrep --color=always -i PAE /proc/cpuinfo21:00
geniiuname -r should return a kernel name with PAE appended th the end21:00
wxlmy cpu has the flag21:01
wxlbut uname -r doesn't include the pae flag21:01
wxlof course i also have 64 bit capability and am running a 64 bit kernel XD21:01
wxltry egrep "HIGHMEM|X86_PAE" /boot/config-`uname -r`21:02
wxl(also fails for me)21:02
james1138_Yep.... 4.4.0-040400-generic21:03
wxlthe flag at the end of uname -r is not necessarily canonical21:04
wxlbut checking your kernel config is absolutely certain21:04
geniijames1138_: Does result of: sudo lshw -C cpu| grep capabilities            ...show pae in the list of capabilities for your cpu?21:07
wxlgrepping /proc/cpuinfo essentially gets you the same thing but that's a good double chekc genii suggested21:07
james1138_capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe nx bts est tm2 cpufreq21:10
james1138_capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe nx bts est tm2 cpufreq21:10
wxlthere's the pae flag for sure21:10
james1138_Sorry about the duplicate21:11
wxlso now check /boot/config-`uname -r` for either X86_PAE or HIGHMEM. either/both of them should be set to 'y'21:11
wxlyou can use grep or you can use your favorite pager/editor to search21:11
james1138_CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G=y21:15
james1138_# CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set21:15
wxlwhich one is it? XD21:15
james1138_Sorry about that! Found  it CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y21:16
wxljames1138_: does CONFIG_X86_PAE show up at all?21:17
wxlit *SHOULD* in your kernel afaik21:17
james1138_CONFIG_X86_PAE=y21:17
geniiHm21:17
wxlyeah that all sounds like it should work21:17
wxland the bios reports the full memory stack right, james1138_ ?21:17
james1138_I added the "force-pae"... should I unstall that?21:18
geniiI can't recall if the T43 uses shared ram for video21:18
james1138_Yes on the memory stack and ECC on memory is disabled.21:18
james1138_If it helps anyone... I did a standard install from ISO/Usb21:23
wxlhonestly, james1138_, i'm stumped. you may try asking in #ubuntu-kernel.21:23
james1138_<grrr> I was hoping that I messed up the install somehow and the fix would be somewhat straightforward.   8-(21:25
james1138_Okay... different question... hopefully easier... anyway to dump the icons on the start menu / main menu? To me, they are unneeded fluff.21:29

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