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[20:42] <james1138_> Hello from Indiana
[20:42] <james1138_> I am using a IBM Thinkpad T43 with 2 gig RAM, 60 gig hard drive and Lubuntu 14.04.3 using linux kernal 4.4
[20:43] <wxl> oooh 4.4 dangerous :)
[20:43] <genii> heh
[20:43] <wxl> that's not very lts of you XD
[20:43] <james1138_> Nah...
[20:44] <wxl> !info linux-generic xenial
[20:44] <ubottu> linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.0.7.8 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 11 kB
[20:44] <wxl> !info linux-generic xenial-proposed
[20:44] <ubottu> linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.1.0 (xenial-proposed), package size 1 kB, installed size 11 kB
[20:44] <wxl> 4.4 is still stuck in proposed as you can see
[20:44] <wxl> but it should be in the next lts
[20:44] <james1138_> Why wait for the good stuff.
[20:45] <wxl> isn't that what lts is all about? XD
[20:45] <wxl> (unless you use the linux-generic-lts-* packages)
[20:46] <james1138_> What is with "generic" WXL?
[20:47] <wxl> james1138_: as opposed to, e.g. rt
[20:47] <wxl> although i don't think we have rt in the regular repos
[20:48] <james1138_> Humm... I wonder would generic let me see more than 2 gig? I have 3 gig installed ans seen by the BIOS (recently updated to most curret version 1.29).
[20:49] <wxl> i386 or amd64?
[20:49] <wxl> actually wait
[20:49] <wxl> that shouldn't be an issue
[20:49] <wxl> maybe a pae issue?
[20:49] <wxl> !pae
[20:49] <ubottu> Ubuntu uses activated PAE Kernels on all installs now. Some older Hardware can have issues with that. For Troubleshooting see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[20:50] <james1138_> My CPU is .i386 Centrino 1.86 ghz
[20:53] <wxl> hm
[20:53] <wxl> you SHOULD have a pae kernel
[20:53] <wxl> if you do it should be fine
[20:56] <james1138_> Should be fine... I wonder what I did wrong then? I even read about force-pae and still only see 2 gig.
[20:57] <wxl> i don't know of any other suggestions to give if you're sure you're running a pae kernel
[20:58] <james1138_> Can I ask how to tell if my kernal is PAE?
[21:00] <wxl> iwell i guess it's good to first check if you have the pae kernel
[21:00] <wxl> i mean
[21:00] <wxl> the pae support in the hardware
[21:00] <wxl> grep --color=always -i PAE /proc/cpuinfo
[21:00] <genii> uname -r should return a kernel name with PAE appended th the end
[21:01] <wxl> my cpu has the flag
[21:01] <wxl> but uname -r doesn't include the pae flag
[21:01] <wxl> of course i also have 64 bit capability and am running a 64 bit kernel XD
[21:02] <wxl> try egrep "HIGHMEM|X86_PAE" /boot/config-`uname -r`
[21:02] <wxl> (also fails for me)
[21:03] <james1138_> Yep.... 4.4.0-040400-generic
[21:04] <wxl> the flag at the end of uname -r is not necessarily canonical
[21:04] <wxl> but checking your kernel config is absolutely certain
[21:07] <genii> james1138_: Does result of: sudo lshw -C cpu| grep capabilities            ...show pae in the list of capabilities for your cpu?
[21:07] <wxl> grepping /proc/cpuinfo essentially gets you the same thing but that's a good double chekc genii suggested
[21:10] <james1138_> capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe nx bts est tm2 cpufreq
[21:10] <james1138_> capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe nx bts est tm2 cpufreq
[21:10] <wxl> there's the pae flag for sure
[21:11] <james1138_> Sorry about the duplicate
[21:11] <wxl> so now check /boot/config-`uname -r` for either X86_PAE or HIGHMEM. either/both of them should be set to 'y'
[21:11] <wxl> you can use grep or you can use your favorite pager/editor to search
[21:15] <james1138_> CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G=y
[21:15] <james1138_> # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set
[21:15] <wxl> which one is it? XD
[21:16] <james1138_> Sorry about that! Found  it CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y
[21:17] <wxl> james1138_: does CONFIG_X86_PAE show up at all?
[21:17] <wxl> it *SHOULD* in your kernel afaik
[21:17] <james1138_> CONFIG_X86_PAE=y
[21:17] <genii> Hm
[21:17] <wxl> yeah that all sounds like it should work
[21:17] <wxl> and the bios reports the full memory stack right, james1138_ ?
[21:18] <james1138_> I added the "force-pae"... should I unstall that?
[21:18] <genii> I can't recall if the T43 uses shared ram for video
[21:18] <james1138_> Yes on the memory stack and ECC on memory is disabled.
[21:23] <james1138_> If it helps anyone... I did a standard install from ISO/Usb
[21:23] <wxl> honestly, james1138_, i'm stumped. you may try asking in #ubuntu-kernel.
[21:25] <james1138_> <grrr> I was hoping that I messed up the install somehow and the fix would be somewhat straightforward.   8-(
[21:29] <james1138_> Okay... different question... hopefully easier... anyway to dump the icons on the start menu / main menu? To me, they are unneeded fluff.