[02:22] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> !info ricochet xenial
[12:19] <PowerKiller> wtf kek
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> !info ricochet-im xenial
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> PowerKiller: there it is
[12:20] <PowerKiller> !info ricochet-im wily
[12:20] <PowerKiller> wtf
[14:30] <bipolar> I've hit a weird oom issue with the network install of 16.04. The command /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-rawmidi is using up all the ram. It starts at the same time as the grub install does. Systemd processes are also using a lot of ram. This installation is in Virutalbox, and I do have a custom preseed. I have a video capture of the process and the kernel panic. I've tried blacklisting the snd-rawmidi module, via kernel command line, but it didn't
[14:30] <bipolar> solve the issue. I'm going to try an install with the standard preseed and see if it works.
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[19:42] <sweetlew> Hello. Does anybody know when ubuntu-mate 16.04 Alpha 2 is coming out? I thought it was supposed to be today, but I could be mistaken.
[19:42] <ikonia> sweetlew: 16.04
[19:42] <ikonia> is it April ?
[19:45] <sweetlew> ikonia: That's for main release. I'm an alpha/beta tester, and I remember seeing something about Alpha 2 being out today for opt-in flavors, but I'm not sure to Ubuntu Mate was one of them or not.
[19:46] <ikonia> sweetlew: you mean the specific packages ?
[19:46] <sweetlew> ikonia: Yeah, I guess.
[19:47] <ikonia> have a look in the package manager, see if they have been released to the pre-release builds ?
[19:52] <ChibaPet> Looking at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/ I note that the amd64 images are all dated from the 11th. Is there an online resource I can check to look at commit history for a particular package in Xenail?
[19:52] <ChibaPet> Xenial
[19:54] <jtaylor> ChibaPet: check the package changelog in launchpad
[19:55] <jtaylor> ChibaPet: that the dailies are a bit outdated doesn't matter unless you want to save bandwidth
[19:55] <jtaylor> just apt update; apt dist-upgrade after installation
[19:55] <jtaylor> and if you want to save bandwidth don't use +1
[19:56] <ChibaPet> jtaylor: The package in question for me is GRUB, so the install media not having the bits I want might be an issue.
[19:57] <jtaylor> ah ok that is the exception ;)
[19:57] <ChibaPet> I want to explore ZFS root and from the versions noted in a couple bugs, Xenial will have the right stuff - but I'm thinking it might have gone in after the 11th.
[19:58] <ChibaPet> I'm thinking a changelog will show me when the relevant bits went it. Worst case, I also found a list of feature flags that are problematic, so I could maybe work around that.
[19:59] <jtaylor> what are you looking for?
[19:59] <jtaylor> "Backport various ZFS improvements from trunk" ?
[19:59] <ChibaPet> !info grub2
[19:59] <ChibaPet> jtaylor: Yes.
[19:59] <ChibaPet> Sorry, was on the phone too. I can dig up the specific bug report that noted changes being cherrypicked.
[20:00] <ChibaPet> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1530457
[20:00] <jtaylor> that seem to have gone ine jan 23.
[20:00] <ChibaPet> Alright, I'll want to wait for a new ISO to be generated then, I think.
[20:01] <ChibaPet> Backing off from the details, I was curious about version control logs, but you're saying Launchpad has those...? Looking.
[20:02] <ChibaPet> Argh, I'm on the wrong box to log in. I'll have to fire up my laptop presently. Anyway, thanks for the confirmation/pointers! I have to say, Ubuntu feels a bit like coming home after years of Debian.
[20:03] <jtaylor> launchpad does not always display everything, often you also want to check the debian changelog: e.g. https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/grub2
[20:03] <ChibaPet> Will Ubuntu always match version numbers, or is there a chance things will be ported from Debian piecemeal?
[20:04] <ChibaPet> I'm quite new to Ubuntu organizationally.
[20:04] <jtaylor> sometimes, but during development one usually tries to import from debian as much as possible
[20:05] <jtaylor> most of the time its the debian package + some small changes in ubuntuX marked package revisions
[20:05] <ChibaPet> Sounds reasonable.