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hikikohello06:00
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pittiGood morning06:43
didrocksgood morning08:16
flocculanthi didrocks08:16
pittibonjour didrocks ! as-tu dormi mieux ?08:16
didrockshey flocculant08:19
didrocksbonjour pitti, un peu sommeil, mais ça va, et toi ?08:20
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pittididrocks: ça va bien, salut de Louvain !08:20
didrockstu as fait un bon voyage hier ?08:21
pittididrocks: oui, pas de problème, les trains étaient ponctuels et calmes08:21
pittimon bureau roulant :)08:22
didrockshehe :)08:22
larsumorning!08:58
seb128hey larsu08:59
seb128how is pre-fosdem?08:59
larsuseb128: great! Brussels is even sunny this morning09:00
larsu(as opposed to last night)09:00
seb128same here ;-)09:00
larsuhaha that's because you're right around the corner :P09:00
seb128:-)09:02
* seb128 makes some coffee09:02
willcookemorning all09:03
seb128hey willcooke09:03
larsumorning willcooke09:03
didrocksmorning willcooke09:04
Laneyhey thar09:04
didrockshey, it's a Laney!09:04
larsumorning Laney!09:04
seb128hey Laney09:05
Laneyhi europeans!09:06
larsuLaney: uh oh. Already given up on Europe over there?09:14
LaneyVOTE LEAVE09:16
LaneyHAHA09:17
LaneyI just visited their website to link you to it09:17
Laneyhttp://voteleave.eu09:17
larsuLaney: nice!09:18
Laneythink I got confused though09:18
Laneythere's http://leave.eu/ and http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/09:19
Laneyworst domain ever09:19
Laneyalso doesn't work on firefox for me09:19
pittihey Laney!09:20
pittibonjour seb12809:20
seb128salut pitti09:22
Laneyhey pitti09:24
Laneyhow's belgium?09:24
larsumorgen pitti!09:24
larsuLaney: sunny09:24
seb128larsu, how is the hackfest?09:24
larsuseb128: lots of random discussion this morning09:25
larsusomething about symbol versioning and glib types right now09:25
* larsu shrugs09:25
seb128larsu, any chance to bring the topic of having an hint to hide csd decoration of maximized windows?09:25
seb128or not the right people for that?09:25
larsuseb128: not really (mclasen isn't here)09:26
larsuseb128: but I'll ask09:26
seb128thanks09:26
TrevinhoGood morning!09:27
seb128hey Trevinho!09:27
seb128how are you?09:27
Trevinhoseb128: quite good. You?09:27
larsumorning Trevinho09:27
seb128Trevinho, I'm good thanks :-)09:28
TrevinhoHi larsu, morning!09:30
didrockshey Trevinho!09:34
Trevinhodidrocks: about that unity branch. I've no bot. Something weird happened.09:35
Trevinhodidrocks: hey, by the way09:35
didrocksTrevinho: how are things going?09:36
Trevinhodidrocks: Allright, you?09:36
didrocksI'm fine, thanks!09:37
didrocksready to travel again tomorrow now :)09:37
pittididrocks: pas plus de jetlag ? c'est bien !09:39
seb128just have a good night to deal with those ;-)09:40
didrockspitti: de longues nuits, mais pas réveillé tôt au moins :)09:40
tjaaltona recent upgrade broke the terminal scrollbar, it has a grey backgound now instead of being "transparent"11:31
tjaaltonlibvte perhaps11:34
willcooketjaalton, would you mind logging a bug?12:23
tjaaltonwillcooke: sure12:24
willcookethanks12:24
Laneyprobably the last theme upload12:25
tjaaltonyep, downgrading light-themes fixed it12:29
tjaaltonfiled 153905512:32
willcooke#153905512:33
willcookebug 153905512:33
ubot5bug 1539055 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "latest update broke overlay scrollbar on terminals" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153905512:33
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alexarnaudhello everybody13:14
alexarnaudhikiko, Trevinho : are you available?13:14
Trevinhoalexarnaud: hi, yes13:15
alexarnaudOk, good13:15
hikikoalexarnaud, I was about to go for lunch13:15
alexarnaudI've a bug with CCSM 0.9.12.013:15
alexarnaudI'm trying to configure it with GSettings on Mate environnement13:15
alexarnaudeverything work very good expect for main menu (ALT+F1) and run command (ALT+F2)13:16
alexarnaudDo you have an idead of why ?13:16
alexarnaudIf I try to configure it on CCSM, it configure the keys and deconfirue it instantly13:17
alexarnaudTrevinho: Do you know this issue?13:17
hikikomaybe they are reserved by something else?13:17
hikikoanother plugin?13:18
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alexarnaudThe Mate plugin for Compiz is not bundle in this version13:18
hikiko|lnI ll be back in a while13:18
hikiko|lnMate plugin?13:18
alexarnaudhikiko|ln: Yes, in the last code of Compiz I see a mate compat plugin13:19
alexarnaudhikiko|ln: what is the goal of it ?13:19
Trevinhoalexarnaud: oh... Honestly I don't know what it might happen13:19
Trevinhoalexarnaud: maybe is that used by some other plugin that is enabled? It should say something by the way13:20
alexarnaudTrevinho: it says nothing13:20
Trevinhoalexarnaud: have you tried to change that from pure gsettings?13:21
alexarnaudYes, I give it from my override file but they appear like disabled13:21
alexarnaudThe screenshot key however works perfectly13:21
alexarnaudTrevinho: In my version of Compiz everything in GSettings and Compiz must work ?13:22
alexarnaudTrevinho: I see plugin named "matecompat" in the latest version that is present in the 0.9.12.013:23
alexarnaudTrevinho: So I'll retry more to find the best way to solve the issue13:30
alexarnaudThanks everyone13:31
alexarnaudI've only few percent of battery, I need to disconect me. See you soon13:32
willcookelarsu, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-themes/14.04+16.04.20160120-0ubuntu113:35
willcookewhere could I see an example of that through-drawing on web kti?13:35
willcookekit13:35
larsuwillcooke: devhelp or epiphany13:36
willcookethx13:37
larsulet me know if you run into problems13:37
larsuI think that patch should fix it though13:37
willcookelarsu, https://launchpad.net/bugs/153905513:38
ubot5Launchpad bug 1539055 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "latest update broke overlay scrollbar on terminals" [Undecided,New]13:38
willcookemakes the scrollbars elsewhere have the wrong colour backgrounds13:38
larsuugh. bad.13:38
larsuwillcooke: seems like it's a different issue (last comment...)13:40
larsuah it does show a different background for me as well13:40
larsuare we sure it didn't do that before?13:41
* larsu can't imagine this fix breaking that13:41
willcookewhat's that, having a solid background behind an OL scroll bar?13:41
larsuya13:42
larsuon terminal13:42
willcookeI wondered that as well, firing up a W machine to see13:42
* willcooke . . o O ( It's a feature not a bug )13:42
larsuthanks :)13:43
larsuprobably we want to fix that13:43
larsubut at least we can keept the webkit fix for now13:43
Laneyit is that13:43
larsuLaney: stop ruining my fun!13:44
willcookehttp://imgur.com/3oRPpYL13:44
Laneysoooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyy13:44
larsuLaney: are you sure? willcooke is seeing it on W as wel13:44
larsu*well13:44
Laneythat screenshot doesn't show the bug13:45
Laneyput the mouse off it13:45
Laneyand yes, it's easy to comment out the lines in the theme to see13:45
Laney:(13:45
larsu:(13:46
larsuLaney: I'll have a look (but probably not this afternoon)13:46
willcookehttp://imgur.com/Fyhxo3l13:46
Laneyya13:47
willcookelarsu, ok if I assign that one to you for now then?13:50
larsuya13:51
willcookethx larsu13:51
larsuSweet5hark: you in Brussels yet? There's a libreoffice hackfest next door...13:52
Sweet5harklarsu: nope, didnt want yet-another-extra-night-on-Canonical-expenses. I will arrive with the first flight tomorrow.13:53
larsuSweet5hark: awesome. see you in the morning then ;)13:54
Sweet5harklarsu: say hi to them for me! (lets see if that roundtrips back to me on #libreoffice) ;)13:54
larsuSweet5hark: I would shout over to mmeeks, but he seems very busy with conversation ;)13:55
Sweet5harklarsu: as usual!13:56
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Laneylarsu: looks like you can just set a different rule for TerminalScreenContainer .scrollbar13:57
Laneythere's already some of those in apps/gnome-terminal.css13:57
larsuis terminal the only one with that problem?13:58
willcookeI think it shows up there because of the dark background13:59
willcookeoh13:59
willcookeumm13:59
willcookelarsu, Laney - could you try something....13:59
willcookeopen Nautilus, open /bin or something with lots of stuff in14:00
willcookeexpand the window to say 4 or 5 cols of icons14:00
Laneylooks like it, I don't see in gedit anyway14:00
willcookemouse over the scroll bar, all fine14:00
willcookenow resize to a small horizontally as you can14:00
willcookehere it's 2 cols14:00
willcookeno more scroll bar14:01
willcookeexpand to 3 cols, scroll bar back again14:01
willcookejust me?14:01
larsuworks for me :/14:02
willcookeI'll reinstall this box next week anyway and I'll try it again14:03
davmor2willcooke: I see it in today live cd14:05
willcookethanks davmor214:05
willcookeI'll open a bug14:05
willcookeseems to be just Nautilus14:07
davmor2willcooke: it looks like it stop displaying if you drag in the side as far as it will go, anything short of that and it displays14:07
willcookehummmmmmm14:07
willcookenow I've moved the separator between the right and left sides of the window14:08
willcookeI can only get down to 3 cols14:08
willcookeand it always shows14:08
willcookeyeah, I can see the scrollbar getting pushed off the side of the window14:08
davmor2willcooke: if you take it in all the way and then slowly move it back out before you get back up to 3 it displays just trying to screenshot it14:09
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davmor2willcooke: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/desktop-screenshots/2columns-noscroll.png and http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/desktop-screenshots/2columns-scroll.png14:14
willcookethx davmor214:14
willcookeI think we need a video to demo it really, but, we're going to be rolling back to the previous version of Nautilus anyway14:15
willcookeso I'll try it again then14:15
davmor2willcooke: do the same thing with logviewer14:19
davmor2willcooke: ah nevermind it work if you remove the yellow label just not until you do14:20
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qenghoHi. May I have a sponsor for upload to x and perhaps to debian? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/151805315:19
ubot5Launchpad bug 1518053 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "xdg-mime can read .config/ defaults but can never set them" [Medium,Confirmed]15:19
qenghoAnd another for upload to x only? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/152772715:19
ubot5Launchpad bug 1527727 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub-probe for zfs assumes all devices prefix with /dev, ignoring /dev/disk/..." [Medium,Confirmed]15:19
seb128cyphermox, ^ can you maybe help on the grub one?15:28
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cyphermoxsure15:32
seb128thanks15:34
seb128didrocks you said you would re-review the xdg-utils update/merge iirc?15:35
didrocksseb128: I don't think I clearly acked on it TBH15:35
didrocksand I doubt I'll have time in the coming weeks TBH :/15:35
seb128k15:36
seb128wasn't Laney doing a patch pilot this week? ;-)15:36
Laneydid it on monday15:36
davmor2willcooke, seb128: so I've tried a bunch of installs on 16.04 and 14.04.4 and renamed the main partition as moo and it still boot and everything on the file system seems the same, root own everything under / d owns /home/d and I could touch files in /tmp/ ~ and home ~/Documents after reboot16:03
willcookethanks a lot davmor216:03
seb128davmor2, ok, thanks for trying16:03
seb128I wonder what went wrong in that install16:04
seb128weird that fstab was empty :-/16:04
davmor2seb128: oh I just thought your friend French by any chance?16:05
davmor2seb128: I wonder if it was named with an accented character at all?16:06
seb128davmor2, no, but the setup might have been a bit more complex16:07
seb128disks have been changed on the machine16:08
davmor2seb128: that's true too16:08
seb128fstab had a comment saying that / was /dev/sdb116:08
seb128but in fact it was /dev/sda116:08
seb128but / was correctly mounted before the label change16:08
davmor2yeah that won't help :)16:08
seb128so I wonder if something was fallbacking on finding the partition by label or something16:09
qenghocyphermox: Yes, I talked to grub upstream. I explained in a comment. They don't want the patch because they think the right thing is to include a library that that has an incompatible license.16:11
qenghohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1527727/comments/816:11
ubot5Launchpad bug 1527727 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub-probe for zfs assumes all devices prefix with /dev, ignoring /dev/disk/..." [Medium,Confirmed]16:11
cyphermoxbut that patch makes some sense even outside of the zfs use case16:12
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cyphermoxsorry, I hadn't parsed the comment that way16:12
cyphermoxI'll pull the patch on Debian if cjwatson has no objection16:12
qenghocyphermox: paraphrasing, "We don't want to try all the permutations. We can't predict where block devices could be universally always, so we don't want to cover any additional cases at all.!16:13
cyphermoxbah16:13
cyphermoxqengho: do you have a link to the thread?16:14
qenghocyphermox: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?43653#comment416:18
cyphermoxah, cool, thanks16:19
mhall119bregma: willcooke: https://twitter.com/FrancescoPonzin/status/692742919485263874 can we put Remmina (or something like it) on the short list of early app targets?16:21
mhall119the use-case for it is one I hadn't thought about, but makes so much sense16:22
willcookemhall119, it should work today in Libertine16:22
willcookeotherwise you're gonna need Mir support in there16:22
bregmawe actually had the Citrix client also working in Libertine at some point, haven't tested lately16:23
willcooketaa daa16:23
willcooke:D16:23
* willcooke assumes bregma has a trigger on libertine 16:23
mhall119bregma: oh, would you happen to have a screenshot of that?16:23
willcookeoh16:23
willcookeI see bregma was already on mhalls message16:24
bregmahmm, no, all my screenshots are of it not working16:24
willcookeha16:24
qenghobregma: is that a public name, libertine?16:29
bregmaqengho, I suppose so, it's Free software available in the Ubuntu archives16:30
bregmawe do not hide that we're libertines, in fact we're kind of proud16:31
qenghobregma: a pride-worthy definition is not the one I think of first.16:33
bregmawell, the name came from the fact that it allows you to run unconfined applications without any kind of restraint, which can do unmentionable things to your system16:34
bregmabut with Libertine, that gets confined to a sandbox so it's (mostly) harmless16:34
qenghobregma: all right. carry on.16:35
didrockssee you tomorrow guys!17:17
Sweet5harkOh, wow I retweeted CmdrTaco and he liked the tweet. Im a 1990ies Linux superstar!17:23
bschaeferpitti, hello, i was told you could help we re-start this process? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/static/britney/xenial/landing-010/excuses.html17:27
pittibschaefer: which process?17:27
bschaeferas britney seems to have failed (from a seemingly flaky test)17:27
qenghoSweet5hark: Imagine a beowulf cluster of retweets!17:28
bschaeferpitti, automated test for landing17:28
Sweet5harkqengho: I, for one, welcome our new retweeting robotic overlords!17:31
pittibschaefer: restarted (I think)17:33
bschaeferpitti, awesome thanks!17:34
bschaeferworst case we can rebuild everything again17:35
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willcookeg'night gang19:29
attenterobert_ancell: hey, i had to switch it to use plaintext signing because that was the only way to submit a review to the rnr server20:25
robert_ancellattente, which one?20:26
attentethe current one on production20:26
robert_ancellhuh, I thought that wasn't working20:27

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