[06:00] <hikiko> hello
[06:43] <pitti> Good morning
[08:16] <didrocks> good morning
[08:16] <flocculant> hi didrocks
[08:16] <pitti> bonjour didrocks ! as-tu dormi mieux ?
[08:19] <didrocks> hey flocculant
[08:20] <didrocks> bonjour pitti, un peu sommeil, mais ça va, et toi ?
[08:20] <pitti> didrocks: ça va bien, salut de Louvain !
[08:21] <didrocks> tu as fait un bon voyage hier ?
[08:21] <pitti> didrocks: oui, pas de problème, les trains étaient ponctuels et calmes
[08:22] <pitti> mon bureau roulant :)
[08:22] <didrocks> hehe :)
[08:58] <larsu> morning!
[08:59] <seb128> hey larsu
[08:59] <seb128> how is pre-fosdem?
[09:00] <larsu> seb128: great! Brussels is even sunny this morning
[09:00] <larsu> (as opposed to last night)
[09:00] <seb128> same here ;-)
[09:00] <larsu> haha that's because you're right around the corner :P
[09:02] <seb128> :-)
[09:02]  * seb128 makes some coffee
[09:03] <willcooke> morning all
[09:03] <seb128> hey willcooke
[09:03] <larsu> morning willcooke
[09:04] <didrocks> morning willcooke
[09:04] <Laney> hey thar
[09:04] <didrocks> hey, it's a Laney!
[09:04] <larsu> morning Laney!
[09:05] <seb128> hey Laney
[09:06] <Laney> hi europeans!
[09:14] <larsu> Laney: uh oh. Already given up on Europe over there?
[09:16] <Laney> VOTE LEAVE
[09:17] <Laney> HAHA
[09:17] <Laney> I just visited their website to link you to it
[09:17] <Laney> http://voteleave.eu
[09:18] <larsu> Laney: nice!
[09:18] <Laney> think I got confused though
[09:19] <Laney> there's http://leave.eu/ and http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/
[09:19] <Laney> worst domain ever
[09:19] <Laney> also doesn't work on firefox for me
[09:20] <pitti> hey Laney!
[09:20] <pitti> bonjour seb128
[09:22] <seb128> salut pitti
[09:24] <Laney> hey pitti
[09:24] <Laney> how's belgium?
[09:24] <larsu> morgen pitti!
[09:24] <larsu> Laney: sunny
[09:24] <seb128> larsu, how is the hackfest?
[09:25] <larsu> seb128: lots of random discussion this morning
[09:25] <larsu> something about symbol versioning and glib types right now
[09:25]  * larsu shrugs
[09:25] <seb128> larsu, any chance to bring the topic of having an hint to hide csd decoration of maximized windows?
[09:25] <seb128> or not the right people for that?
[09:26] <larsu> seb128: not really (mclasen isn't here)
[09:26] <larsu> seb128: but I'll ask
[09:26] <seb128> thanks
[09:27] <Trevinho> Good morning!
[09:27] <seb128> hey Trevinho!
[09:27] <seb128> how are you?
[09:27] <Trevinho> seb128: quite good. You?
[09:27] <larsu> morning Trevinho
[09:28] <seb128> Trevinho, I'm good thanks :-)
[09:30] <Trevinho> Hi larsu, morning!
[09:34] <didrocks> hey Trevinho!
[09:35] <Trevinho> didrocks: about that unity branch. I've no bot. Something weird happened.
[09:35] <Trevinho> didrocks: hey, by the way
[09:36] <didrocks> Trevinho: how are things going?
[09:36] <Trevinho> didrocks: Allright, you?
[09:37] <didrocks> I'm fine, thanks!
[09:37] <didrocks> ready to travel again tomorrow now :)
[09:39] <pitti> didrocks: pas plus de jetlag ? c'est bien !
[09:40] <seb128> just have a good night to deal with those ;-)
[09:40] <didrocks> pitti: de longues nuits, mais pas réveillé tôt au moins :)
[11:31] <tjaalton> a recent upgrade broke the terminal scrollbar, it has a grey backgound now instead of being "transparent"
[11:34] <tjaalton> libvte perhaps
[12:23] <willcooke> tjaalton, would you mind logging a bug?
[12:24] <tjaalton> willcooke: sure
[12:24] <willcooke> thanks
[12:25] <Laney> probably the last theme upload
[12:29] <tjaalton> yep, downgrading light-themes fixed it
[12:32] <tjaalton> filed 1539055
[12:33] <willcooke> #1539055
[12:33] <willcooke> bug 1539055
[13:14] <alexarnaud> hello everybody
[13:14] <alexarnaud> hikiko, Trevinho : are you available?
[13:15] <Trevinho> alexarnaud: hi, yes
[13:15] <alexarnaud> Ok, good
[13:15] <hikiko> alexarnaud, I was about to go for lunch
[13:15] <alexarnaud> I've a bug with CCSM 0.9.12.0
[13:15] <alexarnaud> I'm trying to configure it with GSettings on Mate environnement
[13:16] <alexarnaud> everything work very good expect for main menu (ALT+F1) and run command (ALT+F2)
[13:16] <alexarnaud> Do you have an idead of why ?
[13:17] <alexarnaud> If I try to configure it on CCSM, it configure the keys and deconfirue it instantly
[13:17] <alexarnaud> Trevinho: Do you know this issue?
[13:17] <hikiko> maybe they are reserved by something else?
[13:18] <hikiko> another plugin?
[13:18] <alexarnaud> The Mate plugin for Compiz is not bundle in this version
[13:18] <hikiko|ln> I ll be back in a while
[13:18] <hikiko|ln> Mate plugin?
[13:19] <alexarnaud> hikiko|ln: Yes, in the last code of Compiz I see a mate compat plugin
[13:19] <alexarnaud> hikiko|ln: what is the goal of it ?
[13:19] <Trevinho> alexarnaud: oh... Honestly I don't know what it might happen
[13:20] <Trevinho> alexarnaud: maybe is that used by some other plugin that is enabled? It should say something by the way
[13:20] <alexarnaud> Trevinho: it says nothing
[13:21] <Trevinho> alexarnaud: have you tried to change that from pure gsettings?
[13:21] <alexarnaud> Yes, I give it from my override file but they appear like disabled
[13:21] <alexarnaud> The screenshot key however works perfectly
[13:22] <alexarnaud> Trevinho: In my version of Compiz everything in GSettings and Compiz must work ?
[13:23] <alexarnaud> Trevinho: I see plugin named "matecompat" in the latest version that is present in the 0.9.12.0
[13:30] <alexarnaud> Trevinho: So I'll retry more to find the best way to solve the issue
[13:31] <alexarnaud> Thanks everyone
[13:32] <alexarnaud> I've only few percent of battery, I need to disconect me. See you soon
[13:35] <willcooke> larsu, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-themes/14.04+16.04.20160120-0ubuntu1
[13:35] <willcooke> where could I see an example of that through-drawing on web kti?
[13:35] <willcooke> kit
[13:36] <larsu> willcooke: devhelp or epiphany
[13:37] <willcooke> thx
[13:37] <larsu> let me know if you run into problems
[13:37] <larsu> I think that patch should fix it though
[13:38] <willcooke> larsu, https://launchpad.net/bugs/1539055
[13:38] <willcooke> makes the scrollbars elsewhere have the wrong colour backgrounds
[13:38] <larsu> ugh. bad.
[13:40] <larsu> willcooke: seems like it's a different issue (last comment...)
[13:40] <larsu> ah it does show a different background for me as well
[13:41] <larsu> are we sure it didn't do that before?
[13:41]  * larsu can't imagine this fix breaking that
[13:41] <willcooke> what's that, having a solid background behind an OL scroll bar?
[13:42] <larsu> ya
[13:42] <larsu> on terminal
[13:42] <willcooke> I wondered that as well, firing up a W machine to see
[13:42]  * willcooke . . o O ( It's a feature not a bug )
[13:43] <larsu> thanks :)
[13:43] <larsu> probably we want to fix that
[13:43] <larsu> but at least we can keept the webkit fix for now
[13:43] <Laney> it is that
[13:44] <larsu> Laney: stop ruining my fun!
[13:44] <willcooke> http://imgur.com/3oRPpYL
[13:44] <Laney> soooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyy
[13:44] <larsu> Laney: are you sure? willcooke is seeing it on W as wel
[13:44] <larsu> *well
[13:45] <Laney> that screenshot doesn't show the bug
[13:45] <Laney> put the mouse off it
[13:45] <Laney> and yes, it's easy to comment out the lines in the theme to see
[13:45] <Laney> :(
[13:46] <larsu> :(
[13:46] <larsu> Laney: I'll have a look (but probably not this afternoon)
[13:46] <willcooke> http://imgur.com/Fyhxo3l
[13:47] <Laney> ya
[13:50] <willcooke> larsu, ok if I assign that one to you for now then?
[13:51] <larsu> ya
[13:51] <willcooke> thx larsu
[13:52] <larsu> Sweet5hark: you in Brussels yet? There's a libreoffice hackfest next door...
[13:53] <Sweet5hark> larsu: nope, didnt want yet-another-extra-night-on-Canonical-expenses. I will arrive with the first flight tomorrow.
[13:54] <larsu> Sweet5hark: awesome. see you in the morning then ;)
[13:54] <Sweet5hark> larsu: say hi to them for me! (lets see if that roundtrips back to me on #libreoffice) ;)
[13:55] <larsu> Sweet5hark: I would shout over to mmeeks, but he seems very busy with conversation ;)
[13:56] <Sweet5hark> larsu: as usual!
[13:57] <Laney> larsu: looks like you can just set a different rule for TerminalScreenContainer .scrollbar
[13:57] <Laney> there's already some of those in apps/gnome-terminal.css
[13:58] <larsu> is terminal the only one with that problem?
[13:59] <willcooke> I think it shows up there because of the dark background
[13:59] <willcooke> oh
[13:59] <willcooke> umm
[13:59] <willcooke> larsu, Laney - could you try something....
[14:00] <willcooke> open Nautilus, open /bin or something with lots of stuff in
[14:00] <willcooke> expand the window to say 4 or 5 cols of icons
[14:00] <Laney> looks like it, I don't see in gedit anyway
[14:00] <willcooke> mouse over the scroll bar, all fine
[14:00] <willcooke> now resize to a small horizontally as you can
[14:00] <willcooke> here it's 2 cols
[14:01] <willcooke> no more scroll bar
[14:01] <willcooke> expand to 3 cols, scroll bar back again
[14:01] <willcooke> just me?
[14:02] <larsu> works for me :/
[14:03] <willcooke> I'll reinstall this box next week anyway and I'll try it again
[14:05] <davmor2> willcooke: I see it in today live cd
[14:05] <willcooke> thanks davmor2
[14:05] <willcooke> I'll open a bug
[14:07] <willcooke> seems to be just Nautilus
[14:07] <davmor2> willcooke: it looks like it stop displaying if you drag in the side as far as it will go, anything short of that and it displays
[14:07] <willcooke> hummmmmmm
[14:08] <willcooke> now I've moved the separator between the right and left sides of the window
[14:08] <willcooke> I can only get down to 3 cols
[14:08] <willcooke> and it always shows
[14:08] <willcooke> yeah, I can see the scrollbar getting pushed off the side of the window
[14:09] <davmor2> willcooke: if you take it in all the way and then slowly move it back out before you get back up to 3 it displays just trying to screenshot it
[14:14] <davmor2> willcooke: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/desktop-screenshots/2columns-noscroll.png and http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/desktop-screenshots/2columns-scroll.png
[14:14] <willcooke> thx davmor2
[14:15] <willcooke> I think we need a video to demo it really, but, we're going to be rolling back to the previous version of Nautilus anyway
[14:15] <willcooke> so I'll try it again then
[14:19] <davmor2> willcooke: do the same thing with logviewer
[14:20] <davmor2> willcooke: ah nevermind it work if you remove the yellow label just not until you do
[15:19] <qengho> Hi. May I have a sponsor for upload to x and perhaps to debian? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/1518053
[15:19] <qengho> And another for upload to x only? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1527727
[15:28] <seb128> cyphermox, ^ can you maybe help on the grub one?
[15:32] <cyphermox> sure
[15:34] <seb128> thanks
[15:35] <seb128> didrocks you said you would re-review the xdg-utils update/merge iirc?
[15:35] <didrocks> seb128: I don't think I clearly acked on it TBH
[15:35] <didrocks> and I doubt I'll have time in the coming weeks TBH :/
[15:36] <seb128> k
[15:36] <seb128> wasn't Laney doing a patch pilot this week? ;-)
[15:36] <Laney> did it on monday
[16:03] <davmor2> willcooke, seb128: so I've tried a bunch of installs on 16.04 and 14.04.4 and renamed the main partition as moo and it still boot and everything on the file system seems the same, root own everything under / d owns /home/d and I could touch files in /tmp/ ~ and home ~/Documents after reboot
[16:03] <willcooke> thanks a lot davmor2
[16:03] <seb128> davmor2, ok, thanks for trying
[16:04] <seb128> I wonder what went wrong in that install
[16:04] <seb128> weird that fstab was empty :-/
[16:05] <davmor2> seb128: oh I just thought your friend French by any chance?
[16:06] <davmor2> seb128: I wonder if it was named with an accented character at all?
[16:07] <seb128> davmor2, no, but the setup might have been a bit more complex
[16:08] <seb128> disks have been changed on the machine
[16:08] <davmor2> seb128: that's true too
[16:08] <seb128> fstab had a comment saying that / was /dev/sdb1
[16:08] <seb128> but in fact it was /dev/sda1
[16:08] <seb128> but / was correctly mounted before the label change
[16:08] <davmor2> yeah that won't help :)
[16:09] <seb128> so I wonder if something was fallbacking on finding the partition by label or something
[16:11] <qengho> cyphermox: Yes, I talked to grub upstream. I explained in a comment. They don't want the patch because they think the right thing is to include a library that that has an incompatible license.
[16:11] <qengho> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1527727/comments/8
[16:12] <cyphermox> but that patch makes some sense even outside of the zfs use case
[16:12] <cyphermox> sorry, I hadn't parsed the comment that way
[16:12] <cyphermox> I'll pull the patch on Debian if cjwatson has no objection
[16:13] <qengho> cyphermox: paraphrasing, "We don't want to try all the permutations. We can't predict where block devices could be universally always, so we don't want to cover any additional cases at all.!
[16:13] <cyphermox> bah
[16:14] <cyphermox> qengho: do you have a link to the thread?
[16:18] <qengho> cyphermox: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?43653#comment4
[16:19] <cyphermox> ah, cool, thanks
[16:21] <mhall119> bregma: willcooke: https://twitter.com/FrancescoPonzin/status/692742919485263874 can we put Remmina (or something like it) on the short list of early app targets?
[16:22] <mhall119> the use-case for it is one I hadn't thought about, but makes so much sense
[16:22] <willcooke> mhall119, it should work today in Libertine
[16:22] <willcooke> otherwise you're gonna need Mir support in there
[16:23] <bregma> we actually had the Citrix client also working in Libertine at some point, haven't tested lately
[16:23] <willcooke> taa daa
[16:23] <willcooke> :D
[16:23]  * willcooke assumes bregma has a trigger on libertine 
[16:23] <mhall119> bregma: oh, would you happen to have a screenshot of that?
[16:23] <willcooke> oh
[16:24] <willcooke> I see bregma was already on mhalls message
[16:24] <bregma> hmm, no, all my screenshots are of it not working
[16:24] <willcooke> ha
[16:29] <qengho> bregma: is that a public name, libertine?
[16:30] <bregma> qengho, I suppose so, it's Free software available in the Ubuntu archives
[16:31] <bregma> we do not hide that we're libertines, in fact we're kind of proud
[16:33] <qengho> bregma: a pride-worthy definition is not the one I think of first.
[16:34] <bregma> well, the name came from the fact that it allows you to run unconfined applications without any kind of restraint, which can do unmentionable things to your system
[16:34] <bregma> but with Libertine, that gets confined to a sandbox so it's (mostly) harmless
[16:35] <qengho> bregma: all right. carry on.
[17:17] <didrocks> see you tomorrow guys!
[17:23] <Sweet5hark> Oh, wow I retweeted CmdrTaco and he liked the tweet. Im a 1990ies Linux superstar!
[17:27] <bschaefer> pitti, hello, i was told you could help we re-start this process? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/static/britney/xenial/landing-010/excuses.html
[17:27] <pitti> bschaefer: which process?
[17:27] <bschaefer> as britney seems to have failed (from a seemingly flaky test)
[17:28] <qengho> Sweet5hark: Imagine a beowulf cluster of retweets!
[17:28] <bschaefer> pitti, automated test for landing
[17:31] <Sweet5hark> qengho: I, for one, welcome our new retweeting robotic overlords!
[17:33] <pitti> bschaefer: restarted (I think)
[17:34] <bschaefer> pitti, awesome thanks!
[17:35] <bschaefer> worst case we can rebuild everything again
[19:29] <willcooke> g'night gang
[20:25] <attente> robert_ancell: hey, i had to switch it to use plaintext signing because that was the only way to submit a review to the rnr server
[20:26] <robert_ancell> attente, which one?
[20:26] <attente> the current one on production
[20:27] <robert_ancell> huh, I thought that wasn't working