=== mnepton is now known as mneptok [07:09] !google [07:09] While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question. [07:12] nobody knows the trouble I've seen [07:13] nobody buuuuuut rms [07:17] sweet Jesus [07:17] am I too old? [07:17] too grumpy? [07:19] it must be me. [07:53] totally you [07:53] I have the best luck googling on exactly what people tell me [07:54] c/p into the search bar [07:54] even if it doesn't have the answer, it gives me the right question [07:57] valorie: I think the case Myrtti was talking about, the helper simply copy/pasted the first result to the user, instead of actually processing it. [07:57] ewww [07:58] No one's saying you're not allowed to use google in the process of helping. [07:58] :) [07:58] heh [07:58] without google, I'd not be very helpful [07:58] he didn't even that [07:58] he lmgtfy'd [07:58] google and ubottu are my brain [07:59] and when I protested, he told me I wasnt helping myself... [07:59] which is true, so I kinda gave up [07:59] yeah, it bothers me when I see that people have been giving out bad help or worse [07:59] but I can't be on irc 24/7 [08:00] Myrtti: sometimes a cluebat is the necessary and proper tool. [08:00] but it did give me a bad start for the day [08:01] Flannel: I'm sure I'll be accused of being a softie catalyser ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [08:01] can't win every time [08:01] Not even always [08:02] * valorie gets out the cluebat made of cotton fluff [08:42] aw, I wanted to do that to shut beepie [08:42] Listen [08:42] Im really annonyed [08:42] Like im so pissed off [08:42] sure, but that still doesn't give you a free pass to cuss [08:43] Listen here [08:43] Im told this guy for the 5th time [08:43] I have never used ubuntu before [08:43] Im been using windows for the last 15 years [08:43] I was trying to dualboot on real mac hardware [08:43] I got to the point i couldnt do it it was too much [08:43] Dylan____: That doesn't justify abusive language. [08:43] .. [08:44] Please yourself [08:44] If your going to help somebody at least do it right [08:44] !guidelines | Dylan____ [08:44] Dylan____: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [09:24] ugh, now he's recommending updating the intel drivers from some website [09:24] I can't even. [09:50] i kicked him some days before for beeing like that [09:50] and i think he is one of the former gentoo or arch trolls that way he mentions linux and that canonical doesnt provide and work etc. [09:53] no need for a ban on me. [09:53] but I was mentioning that it is annoying for a user to repeat questions and i was done about it. [09:53] not necessary at all. [09:53] I was helping users for quite some time today. [09:53] ikonia is out of order here. [09:53] "* Channel #ubuntu url: http://www.ubuntu.com [09:53] <beepie> say there are firewire-tools [09:53] <beepie> but that's not my domain. [09:53] <bitgeek_> beepie: I tried 'sudo apt-get install unity-greeter; sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get install unity' but no change :( [09:53] <k1l_> !guidelines | beepie [09:53] <ubottu> beepie: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [09:53] <beepie> repeating the same thing is actually not imho an invitation for "help" [09:53] * james is now known as Guest10686 [09:53] <beepie> because repeating the same thing over and over again like is rather annoying to be frank about it. [09:53] <beepie> really. [09:54] not necessary. [09:54] i was not cursing at anybody. [09:54] i was expressing my point [09:54] users should not be repeating themselves over and over the same question [09:54] nwyays. [09:54] that ban better be removed ikonia. [09:54] .. [09:55] tomorrow. [09:55] i'll bb. [09:55] and the other ops should reconsider this very tyrant behaviour of yours. [09:55] not justifiable.. [09:56] @mark #ubuntu-ops beepie just rubbish attitude showing exactly why he got ban forwarded to -ops [09:56] The operation succeeded. [10:41] ikonia: he is using a firewire cdrom case where he put in ide hdd instead of the cdrom drive. he said that used to work that way sometime in the past [10:41] it's only really the main chipsets that are supported [10:42] there was a load of propritary ones, I suspect this maybe one [18:48] so many details suddenly come out [18:56] i managed to uninstall all the kernels. [18:56] ruhroh [19:10] sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic [19:10] 'they told me to' [19:11] yeah, no [19:11] in a vm, auto does a separate /boot, removed *all* the kernels [19:13] Ouch [19:14] and as a firewall on xenserver, the list just gets better [19:15] btw, if anyone remembers the guy yesterday complaining about openssl updates not being timely, we already have a fix for the openssl bug announced today. [19:16] Pici: Might be davidic657 in -server [19:17] just saw that [19:30] ikonia: Not that it matters, but I don't think I've ever actually used SuSE [19:30] Pici: he just seems pointlessly obssesed with you running suse - for no reason [19:34] ikonia: what is your problem [19:35] as I explained your pointless noise comments and random obsession with pici using suse in the middle of other people trying to get help [19:35] I run multiple ubuntu and debian servers [19:35] so ? [19:35] ok [19:35] not worth a ban tho [19:35] I warned you, I warned you again kicking you, and you still came back and did it again [19:35] so I have little choice but to ban you to stop the noise while others are getting help [19:36] give me a break you warned about nothing [19:36] just your chum pici [19:36] ok, well, if you're just going to be in a fantasy world, no point discussing this any more [19:36] bye [19:36] oh [19:37] explain your self a bit more [19:38] hello lyze [19:39] Pici: it was shibboleth (or smth like that) [19:40] Pici: @ ranting about openssl bugs beeing not fixed in a week etc. [19:40] k1l_: yes [19:40] so can I say anything here? [19:41] davidic657: Are you trying to resolve your ban in #ubuntu-server? [19:41] Pici? [19:42] davidic657: I'm not sure what other purpose you would have to join this channel. [19:42] Pici: can I ask you one simple question! [19:42] davidic657: if it's about suse - I will ban you [19:42] to be clear [19:42] pici btw I came on here for a legitimate gripe [19:43] I do not nor have I ever used Suse though, so if you're going to pester me about that I think you may have either confused me with someone else, or are just confused. [19:43] ty [19:43] thats sorted [19:43] sorry [19:44] davidic657: was there anything else? [19:44] called to dinner [19:44] davidic657: Please part this channel then. [20:06] just got a screen shot from e-vent of sausage calling him a nigger and various other abuse [20:06] so if he comes in complaining, it's backed up by multiple users now [20:06] its our proxy using pm spammer [20:07] ahh [20:28] Yeah, just the usual shit === PriceChild is now known as Pricey [22:34] let me guess, pm harrassment? :/ [22:35] same guy, evading ban, not letting him get involved again [22:35] already pm'd one guy [22:35] yep [23:20] [PestByda] (~shmuck@ool-3f8fe1b6.dyn.optonline.net): Biteme [23:20] "biteme" rings a bell [23:22] it is [23:35] bye bye ubottu [23:36] rww: Stop killing the bots!