[07:09] <Myrtti> !google
[07:12] <Myrtti> nobody knows the trouble I've seen
[07:13] <Myrtti> nobody buuuuuut rms
[07:17] <Myrtti> sweet Jesus
[07:17] <Myrtti> am I too old?
[07:17] <Myrtti> too grumpy?
[07:19] <Myrtti> it must be me.
[07:53] <valorie> totally you
[07:53] <valorie> I have the best luck googling on exactly what people tell me
[07:54] <valorie> c/p into the search bar
[07:54] <valorie> even if it doesn't have the answer, it gives me the right question
[07:57] <Flannel> valorie: I think the case Myrtti was talking about, the helper simply copy/pasted the first result to the user, instead of actually processing it.
[07:57] <valorie> ewww
[07:58] <Flannel> No one's saying you're not allowed to use google in the process of helping.
[07:58] <Flannel> :)
[07:58] <valorie> heh
[07:58] <valorie> without google, I'd not be very helpful
[07:58] <Myrtti> he didn't even that
[07:58] <Myrtti> he lmgtfy'd
[07:58] <valorie> google and ubottu are my brain
[07:59] <Myrtti> and when I protested, he told me I wasnt helping myself...
[07:59] <Myrtti> which is true, so I kinda gave up
[07:59] <valorie> yeah, it bothers me when I see that people have been giving out bad help or worse
[07:59] <valorie> but I can't be on irc 24/7
[08:00] <Flannel> Myrtti: sometimes a cluebat is the necessary and proper tool.
[08:00] <Myrtti> but it did give me a bad start for the day
[08:01] <Myrtti> Flannel: I'm sure I'll be accused of being a softie catalyser ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[08:01] <Myrtti> can't win every time
[08:01] <Myrtti> Not even always
[08:02]  * valorie gets out the cluebat made of cotton fluff
[08:42] <Myrtti> aw, I wanted to do that to shut beepie
[08:42] <Dylan____> Listen
[08:42] <Dylan____> Im really annonyed
[08:42] <Dylan____> Like im so pissed off
[08:42] <Myrtti> sure, but that still doesn't give you a free pass to cuss
[08:43] <Dylan____> Listen here
[08:43] <Dylan____> Im told this guy for the 5th time
[08:43] <Dylan____> I have never used ubuntu before
[08:43] <Dylan____> Im been using windows for the last 15 years
[08:43] <Dylan____> I was trying to dualboot on real mac hardware
[08:43] <Dylan____> I got to the point i couldnt do it it was too much
[08:43] <Jordan_U> Dylan____: That doesn't justify abusive language.
[08:43] <Dylan____> ..
[08:44] <Dylan____> Please yourself
[08:44] <Dylan____> If your going to help somebody at least do it right
[08:44] <Jordan_U> !guidelines | Dylan____
[09:24] <Myrtti> ugh, now he's recommending updating the intel drivers from some website
[09:24] <Myrtti> I can't even.
[09:50] <k1l_> i kicked him some days before for beeing like that
[09:50] <k1l_> and i think he is one of the former gentoo or arch trolls that way he mentions linux and that canonical doesnt provide and work etc.
[09:53] <beepie> no need for a ban on me.
[09:53] <beepie> but I was mentioning that it is annoying for a user to repeat questions and i was done about it.
[09:53] <beepie> not necessary at all.
[09:53] <beepie> I was helping users for quite some time today.
[09:53] <beepie> ikonia is out of order here.
[09:53] <beepie> "* Channel #ubuntu url: http://www.ubuntu.com
[09:53] <beepie> <beepie> say there are firewire-tools
[09:53] <beepie> <beepie> but that's not my domain.
[09:53] <beepie> <bitgeek_> beepie: I tried 'sudo apt-get install unity-greeter; sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get install unity' but no change :(
[09:53] <beepie> <k1l_> !guidelines | beepie
[09:53] <beepie> <ubottu> beepie: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[09:53] <beepie> <beepie> repeating the same thing is actually not imho an invitation for "help"
[09:53] <beepie> * james is now known as Guest10686
[09:53] <beepie> <beepie> because repeating the same thing over and over again like is rather annoying to be frank about it.
[09:53] <beepie> <beepie> really.
[09:54] <beepie> not necessary.
[09:54] <beepie> i was not cursing at anybody.
[09:54] <beepie> i was expressing my point
[09:54] <beepie> users should not be repeating themselves over and over the same question
[09:54] <beepie> nwyays.
[09:54] <beepie> that ban better be removed ikonia.
[09:54] <beepie> ..
[09:55] <beepie> tomorrow.
[09:55] <beepie> i'll bb.
[09:55] <beepie> and the other ops should reconsider this very tyrant behaviour of yours.
[09:55] <beepie> not justifiable..
[09:56] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu-ops beepie just rubbish attitude showing exactly why he got ban forwarded to -ops
[10:41] <k1l_> ikonia: he is using a firewire cdrom case where he put in ide hdd instead of the cdrom drive. he said that used to work that way sometime in the past
[10:41] <ikonia> it's only really the main chipsets that are supported
[10:42] <ikonia> there was a load of propritary ones, I suspect this maybe one
[18:48] <bazhang> so many details suddenly come out
 i managed to uninstall all the kernels.
[18:56] <bazhang> ruhroh
[19:10] <genii> sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[19:10] <bazhang> 'they told me to'
[19:11] <bazhang> yeah, no
[19:11] <bazhang> in a vm, auto does a separate /boot, removed *all* the kernels
[19:13] <genii> Ouch
[19:14] <bazhang> and as a firewall on xenserver, the list just gets better
[19:15] <Pici> btw, if anyone remembers the guy yesterday complaining about openssl updates not being timely, we already have a fix for the openssl bug announced today.
[19:16] <genii> Pici: Might be davidic657 in -server
[19:17] <Pici> just saw that
[19:30] <Pici> ikonia: Not that it matters, but I don't think I've ever actually used SuSE
[19:30] <ikonia> Pici: he just seems pointlessly obssesed with you running suse - for no reason
[19:34] <davidic657> ikonia:  what is your problem
[19:35] <ikonia> as I explained your pointless noise comments and random obsession with pici using suse in the middle of other people trying to get help
[19:35] <davidic657> I run multiple ubuntu and debian servers
[19:35] <ikonia> so ?
[19:35] <davidic657> ok
[19:35] <davidic657> not worth a ban tho
[19:35] <ikonia> I warned you, I warned you again kicking you, and you still came back and did it again
[19:35] <ikonia> so I have little choice but to ban you to stop the noise while others are getting help
[19:36] <davidic657> give me a break you warned about nothing
[19:36] <davidic657> just your chum pici
[19:36] <ikonia> ok, well, if you're just going to be in a fantasy world, no point discussing this any more
[19:36] <ikonia> bye
[19:36] <davidic657> oh
[19:37] <davidic657> explain your self a bit more
[19:38] <ikonia> hello lyze
[19:39] <k1l_> Pici: it was shibboleth (or smth like that)
[19:40] <k1l_> Pici: @ ranting about openssl bugs beeing not fixed in a week etc.
[19:40] <Pici> k1l_: yes
[19:40] <davidic657> so can I say anything here?
[19:41] <Pici> davidic657: Are you trying to resolve your ban in #ubuntu-server?
[19:41] <davidic657> Pici?
[19:42] <Pici> davidic657: I'm not sure what other purpose you would have to join this channel.
[19:42] <davidic657> Pici:  can I ask you one simple question!
[19:42] <ikonia> davidic657: if it's about suse - I will ban you
[19:42] <ikonia> to be clear
[19:42] <davidic657> pici btw I came on here for a legitimate gripe
[19:43] <Pici> I do not nor have I ever used Suse though, so if you're going to pester me about that I think you may have either confused me with someone else, or are just confused.
[19:43] <davidic657> ty
[19:43] <davidic657> thats sorted
[19:43] <davidic657> sorry
[19:44] <Pici> davidic657: was there anything else?
[19:44] <davidic657> called to dinner
[19:44] <Pici> davidic657: Please part this channel then.
[20:06] <ikonia> just got a screen shot from e-vent of sausage calling him a nigger and various other abuse
[20:06] <ikonia> so if he comes in complaining, it's backed up by multiple users now
[20:06] <k1l_> its our proxy using pm spammer
[20:07] <ikonia> ahh
[20:28] <genii> Yeah, just the usual shit
[22:34] <k1l> let me guess, pm harrassment? :/
[22:35] <ikonia> same guy, evading ban, not letting him get involved again
[22:35] <ikonia> already pm'd one guy
[22:35] <k1l> yep
[23:20] <k1l> [PestByda] (~shmuck@ool-3f8fe1b6.dyn.optonline.net): Biteme
[23:20] <k1l> "biteme" rings a bell
[23:22] <ikonia> it is
[23:35] <rww> bye bye ubottu
[23:36] <Unit193> rww: Stop killing the bots!