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xnoxslangasek, ok. attached a gdb backtrace gnutls module trips up... which juju-local uses...00:00
* xnox doesn't like the "Backtrace stopped: previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?)"00:03
slangasekxnox: is valgrind more informative?00:06
xnoxslangasek, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14683950/ ?00:08
slangasekxnox: invalid read in the valgrind preload? ok shure00:18
slangasekxnox: was the "user process fault" == SIGILL?00:19
xnoxrsyslog.service: Main process exited, code=killed, status=11/SEGV00:19
slangasekhmm00:21
slangasekso it's possible valgrind doesn't understand z12 code00:21
xnoxslangasek, true. however it seems like i'm not the only one00:22
xnoxbug 153410600:22
ubot5bug 1534106 in rsyslog (Ubuntu) "rsyslogd crashed with SIGSEGV with juju-local configuration" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153410600:22
xnoxbug 153845400:22
ubot5Error: Launchpad bug 1538454 could not be found00:22
xnoxhttp://pad.lv/153845400:22
slangasekxnox: sure; I don't doubt that it's a real bug, but the fact that valgrind is throwing SIGILL for you makes it difficult to debug :)00:23
slangasekunless that bug is reproducible cross-architecture?00:23
xnoxyeap.00:24
xnoxpitti has it with juju-local on amd64 it seems00:24
xnox(unless it's a different bug in the same config, and same rsyslog module)00:24
slangasekaha, ok00:24
flexiondotorginfinity, slangasek, Ubuntu MATE i386 and PPC still showing as rebuild in the QA tracker. Can you correct that?00:30
infinityflexiondotorg: Thwacked again.  How does this keep happening?00:46
infinityOh.00:46
infinityMaybe if I didn't cancel in --dry-run mode...00:46
infinityflexiondotorg: Fixed for real this time. *blush*00:47
infinityflexiondotorg: Sorry about that.  It's not so much that I'm stupid, just that I'm the opposite of smart.00:49
knometrams?00:50
infinityDing, ding.00:51
wxlslangasek: infinity: you gents have any idea what we're going to do with the trusty point release?01:09
wxli see it moved a week dowen in the schedule01:10
wxlhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule has it a week later01:10
slangasekwxl: hi - "do with it" in what sense?  yes, the date has been pushed back, which I believe infinity mentioned on ubuntu-release (though buried in a thread, not as an announcement)01:19
wxlslangasek: it was mentioned, but the note was that it would be taken care of later01:21
slangasekxnox: you've disabled test suite in htslib to make it build; in turn this makes the build-dependencies for samtools installable, but samtools' tests fail at build time.  Should samtools tests also be disabled, or is it rather the case that the test failures indicate real problems with htslib?05:54
slangasekxnox: (asking because jquery blocked by python-pbcore, python-pbh5tools autopkgtests failing due to broken python-pysam, dep-wait in xenial-proposed on samtools)05:59
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flexiondotorginfinity, Thank you :-)09:02
Odd_Blokeflexiondotorg: wxl: Cloud images are ready for alpha-2 whenever; given this isn't GA, shall I pull the trigger(s) now?10:56
Odd_BlokeI'm gonna go ahead and pull the trigger on cloud images; I'd like to see any problems that crop up before my day ends. :)12:48
flexiondotorgOdd_Bloke, OK, I'll add CLoud to the Release Notes.12:50
flexiondotorgOdd_Bloke, Can I confirm that you are says the Cloud images for alpha-2 are Ready?12:53
Odd_Blokeflexiondotorg: They are being published out to clouds now.12:53
flexiondotorgThanks.12:53
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LocutusOfBorghi release team, I'm actually doing a lot of work to have ubuntu packages ready for libpng1.6 transition, can you please tell me if it is feasible for xenial?14:09
LocutusOfBorgthe transition is ready in debian14:09
LocutusOfBorgand I syncd/merged almost all the packages in Ubuntu14:09
LaneyLocutusOfBorg: do you have a transition tracker?14:09
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mapreriLaney: he does not /cc LocutusOfBorg16:15
mapreri(in ubuntu)16:15
LocutusOfBorgLaney, nope, I'm not sure how ubuntu handles transitions16:17
xnoxLocutusOfBorg, same as debian does =)16:17
LocutusOfBorgmetapackage?16:17
mapreri(except there is not the auto-transitioner)16:17
LocutusOfBorgI remember they were setup16:18
xnoxmapreri, true.16:18
LocutusOfBorgbut you seem to not use them anymore, bad for me :(16:18
Laneynot true16:18
mapreriLocutusOfBorg: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/16:18
xnoxLocutusOfBorg, ben transition tracker, eg.. http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/16:18
LocutusOfBorgyes, I know that page, but it looks always the same16:18
cyphermoxyeah, for instance there was the perl transition not that long ago16:18
xnoxLocutusOfBorg, metapackages may or may not help with transitions. Most libraries don't use metapackages.16:19
LocutusOfBorgI think many transitions just don't appear there16:19
mapreriLaney: what's not true?16:19
LocutusOfBorge.g. auto transitions16:19
Laneythat we don't use the transition tracker16:19
cjwatsonlots of small transitions aren't worth tracking16:19
LocutusOfBorgxnox, I mean, opening a bug against release.ubuntu.com metapackage16:19
cjwatsonif there's like four packages you JFDI16:19
LocutusOfBorgsure16:19
mapreriLaney: I said, you don't use the auto-transitioner, https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/auto-transition.git/16:19
Laneymapreri: I wasn't answering to you16:20
cjwatsonbut if you look at the history of lp:~ubuntu-transition-trackers/ubuntu-transition-tracker/configs there's plenty of turnover there16:20
LocutusOfBorganyway, I would appreciate to know where to open a bug and discuss libpng16 (if you think there is enough time)16:20
LocutusOfBorgdebian is ready, only 22 packages are FTBFS, but for unrelated reasons, so we can't patch them16:21
LocutusOfBorgand I pretty much syncd/merged every package on ubuntu16:21
LocutusOfBorgso it should be a matter of rebuilds16:21
LocutusOfBorgbut I miss the paperwork for release team  :)16:21
cjwatsonthe nearest equiv to opening a bug against a metapackage would be to open a bug against the package that's the root of the transition and subscribe ~ubuntu-release16:22
LocutusOfBorgthat package is not in ubuntu (libpng1.6)16:22
LocutusOfBorgI can open a bug against the old one16:22
cjwatsondoesn't stop you opening a bug against the new one16:23
cjwatsonhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpng1.6 exists16:23
LocutusOfBorgoh yes, just not published, but existing16:23
LocutusOfBorgwonderful16:23
cjwatsonprobably because the source package name exists following the auto-import of https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/libpng1.6 from experimental16:23
cjwatsoncreating SPNs is not too hard16:23
LocutusOfBorgI can't create a bug against that package16:26
LocutusOfBorg"libpng1.6" does not exist in Ubuntu. Please choose a different package. If you're unsure, please select "I don't know"16:27
cjwatsonoh, well, just use libpng then *shrug*16:27
LocutusOfBorg (Error ID: OOPS-3f79f2d24ee2b339622a0ef266d7a62c)16:28
LocutusOfBorgI tried :)16:28
apwgood old launchpad16:28
cjwatsondo file a bug about that oops, it should be refused but not oops.  anyway, libpng should work16:29
LocutusOfBorgI stole an already open bug16:29
LocutusOfBorg#152432816:30
bdmurrayslangasek / infinity: I'd like to release the SRU for bug 1507151 early so the people who can't upgrade to Vivid could try upgrading to Wily (if the use a custom meta-release file)17:14
ubot5bug 1507151 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Wily) "sysv-rc.postinst calls insserv by name, but insserv package does not provide the command in a bin directory" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150715117:14
slangasekbdmurray: +1 from me17:28
slangasekxnox: and after twiddling the htslib/samtools/python-pysam stack a bit with binary removals, it seems python-pysam's tests fail on all architectures (but only at test time, not at package build time) - in case you have any interest there18:24
xnoxslangasek, i've copied your earlier message into a google keep postit note for later.18:24
xnoxslangasek, but i do take the point that unwinding things that dep-wait in autopkgtests is a good thing forward.18:25
slangasekxnox: not saying this bit is your personal responsibility, you just happened to have touched one of the packages so I thought I'd mention :)18:25
xnox=)18:30
xnoxslangasek, thank you.18:30
bdmurrayxenial is showing "Supported: 9m" for packages19:37
bdmurrayslangasek / infinity: ^^19:40
slangasekwell that seems like something we should fix19:40
slangasekI don't remember how to do that though :)19:40
cjwatsonit's in lp:ubuntu-archive-publishing19:44
cjwatsonyou need to bring your own tears of rage and frustration19:44
* slangasek checks the cupboard19:50
slangasekoh that's interesting, ppc64el is listed as "supported but not LTS"19:53
slangasekguess nobody bothered to look at that bit19:53
infinityslangasek: Unconvinced that SUPPORTED_ARCHES should even be a thing anymore, do we not support everything (except PPC) for the same time?19:59
infinityAlso needs s390x added to the mess.20:00
infinityslangasek: If you're fixing, I'll be happy to review.20:00
slangasekinfinity: conceptually, I know that ppc64el, s390x, i386, and amd64 are all fully LTS supported.  arm64 was not for trusty, and I don't know that it is for xenial either.  armhf is also an open question to me20:01
infinityslangasek: We certainly treat arm64 and armhf as LTS-supported, I'm not sure what the official stance from manglement is.20:03
slangasekinfinity: who treats them as LTS supported and why?20:04
infinityslangasek: We continue to pull ARM-specific kernel and userspace fixes at the request of hyperscale and such.20:04
slangasekinfinity: ok; I should clarify that I mean I don't know that arm64 is a full 5y LTS, but it of course is the target for a bunch of ongoing contractual work20:05
slangasekif you're getting stuff from hyperscale that kind of speaks for itself :)20:05
slangasekinfinity: anyway, https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/ubuntu-archive-publishing/xenial-support/+merge/284341 pls20:05
infinityslangasek: Right, well, if you want to make the conservative edit and just move the IBM arches up to PRIMARY for now, that's cool, but we probably should get an answer from someone.  We advertsise ARM trusty on the website, etc, and hyperscale pushes it to customers, so it's confusing to see the shorter support listed.20:06
infinityslangasek: And Xenial=Trusty probably won't cut it once all the flavours weigh in, but maybe they'll all pick the same cycles.  +1 for now.20:07
cjwatsoncan has tests?20:08
infinityYou kids and your tests.20:08
cjwatsonhm, never mind, not much in the way of existing tests for that20:08
cjwatsonI was looking at tests/test_get_supported_series.py but that's for something else20:09
infinityWhen I was your age, we tested by putting it in production and staying up all night fixing it when it broke.20:09
infinity(This implies that you're about a week younger than I am)20:10
jderosehas anyone investigated backporting dmidecode 3.0 to 14.04.4 or adding a hack in Ubiquity to work around the "SMBIOS-implementations-newer-than-version-2-8-are-not-fully-supported-by-this-version-of-dmidecode-" junk from dmidecode 2.12 on newer hardware?20:35
jderosecjwatson: would you be open to such a hack in Ubiquity?20:35
cjwatsonjderose: up to cyphermox these days20:37
cyphermoxjderose: what hack?20:38
jderosecjwatson: gotcha, thanks. cyphermox: would you be open to this, or have any thoughts on a better approach? we could also get the model from /sys/class/dmi/id/product_name20:38
jderosecyphermox: so the problem is that on newer systems (especially UEFI systems), dmidecode will return something like "SMBIOS-implementations-newer-than-version-2-8-are-not-fully-supported-by-this-version-of-dmidecode-MODEL-NAME"20:39
jderosewhich isn't actually valid for the host name (too long)20:39
cyphermoxalright20:40
jderosei should have been on this sooner, now i'm trying to come up with a not too hacky or risky solution for 14.04.4 :)20:40
cyphermoxsince it's already a string that gets hyphenated, maybe the easiest is to just rip that piece out if it's there.20:43
jderosecyphermox: yeah, that was kinda my thought too. is it to late to try and get this changed in Ubiquity for 14.04.4?20:43
cyphermoxit's close, but no. do you want to file a bug / merge proposal to fix this?20:44
jderosecyphermox: yup, on it. thanks!20:52
jderosecyphermox: filed a bug, will get a merge proposal together shortly - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/153926621:09
ubot5Launchpad bug 1539266 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "14.04.4: work-around "SMBIOS-implementations-newer-than-version-2-8..." junk from dmidecode" [Undecided,New]21:09
jderosecyphermox: what Ubiquity branch should I be working from? lp:~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trusty-proposed or lp:ubiquity or something else?21:37
cyphermox lp:~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trusty-proposed is the correct one21:42
jderosecyphermox: okay, thanks!21:49
flexiondotorgwxl I heard from the Ubuntu CLoud team earlier.22:26
flexiondotorgThey have release the Alpha 2 cloud images.22:26
flexiondotorgI've added details to the draft release notes.22:26
jderosecyphermox: merge proposal - https://code.launchpad.net/~jderose/ubiquity/fix-1539266/+merge/28436423:11
jderosei didn't actually build ubiquity yet, just copy the changed file over the installed one, tested that way23:11

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