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dlPhreakMornin04:26
Kilosmorning all05:12
Padronihi05:13
Kilospoor langjan did a reset on his router now only his wifes windows can see the router so he will be here for help soon i think05:15
Kiloshopefully someone can help him05:15
Kilosi mailed him some links on how to get here from windows05:15
Kiloshope i got it right, still half asleep and head eina05:16
PadroniOnly his wife's pc can see the router?05:36
Kilosyip05:36
Padroniis his network not maybe just configured wrong?05:36
Kilosit was, then kept dropping connection so he foned router peeps or someone, and they said reset05:38
Kilosafter reset ubuntu cant see router anymore05:38
Kilosoh he went to afrihost and they said reset again05:39
Kilosbut no good05:39
Kilosi sent him a link for hexchat on windows, then said he can login here directly from our site05:40
Kilosso he could come here as qwe something or other05:40
Private_Userhey Kilos05:48
Private_Userare you saying ubuntu not able to see it wirelessly but windows is able to see it wirelessly?05:49
Kiloshi Private_User 05:49
Kilosi dont know yet05:49
Kiloshe will come here for help05:49
Private_Userah ok05:49
Kilosi go do chores05:54
cal_pyMorning good people hope everyone's haveing a good day?06:23
Kiloshi cal_py just busy06:29
Padronihi06:38
chesedomorning dlPhreak Kilos Padroni cal_py and all others07:05
cal_pyhey chesedo 07:05
dlPhreakchesedo07:07
* Padroni waves at superfly 07:08
dlPhreakHowz everyone?07:10
chesedocal_py: good so far yes07:14
chesedodlPhreak: great07:14
dlPhreakThat's good07:15
cal_pygood good good07:18
Padronigood morning07:35
Kiloshi qwebirc87123 08:29
qwebirc87123Hi Kilos 08:29
Kilosyou made it oom08:29
qwebirc87123yip08:29
qwebirc87123funny name you gave me...08:29
Kilosguys this is langjan with the router issue08:29
KilosPrivate_User ideas08:31
Kilosand Padroni 08:31
Kilosqwebirc87123 can you sign in on the router with windows?08:31
qwebirc87123yes I can 08:32
qwebirc87123thats where I am now08:32
Kilostype in here 08:32
Kilos  /nick langjan08:32
=== qwebirc87123 is now known as langjan
Private_Userah yes, question is your router not visible to your ubuntu machine wirelessly but is visible to your windows machine?08:33
langjancan connect via windows but router also not seen there08:34
langjanalso not to ubuntu via wired connection08:34
Private_Userwhat type of router is it? are you able to plug in a cable from the ubuntu machine and connect to via the browser by entering its default address?08:34
langjanIts a Dlink 2750U08:35
langjancan plug in but deafault address I had does not work08:35
Private_Userthe same address works on windows though?08:36
langjanwell I assume its the same address but on windows I just go to connections and click connect08:37
Private_Userok in your browser in windows, if you type in the router address are you able to access it?08:38
langjanIt says same as ubuntu, this web page is not available08:39
Private_Userthis is with a cable plugged in?08:40
langjancorrect08:40
langjanbut same result with wireless08:40
langjanon ubuntu08:40
Private_Userbut the windows machine you not able to access the router via the browser with the cable plugged in but you do get connected via connections and have an internet connection?08:41
langjancorrect08:42
Private_Userok08:42
Private_Userlet me think now...08:42
langjanPrivate_User: could the router address have changed with reset to factory settings?08:42
Private_Userresetting to factory settings will just change it back to its default address which in most cases would be either written on the router or on the router manual08:43
langjanok looks like 10.0.0.2, was using 4, lets try08:44
Private_Userok cool08:45
langjanOk I got the router via 10.0.0.2 on wired, silly old man08:46
langjanThanks08:46
langjanlet me see if I can get it going now08:47
Private_Usercool stuff08:47
Private_Userlet me know how it goes08:48
langjanhow do I avoid conflict with printer ip, or will it do it automatically if I switch printer on while configuring?08:48
langjanthanks08:48
Private_Userif all devices are set to acquire IP address automatically they should be fine but if you did set a static IP for one of your devices and your router is set to assign IP addresses dynamically there should be a setting within the router to not assign specific IP addresses08:58
Padroniok09:08
Padronithis seacom outtage is annoying09:09
Padroni2nd time this month 09:10
Kilosout again09:11
Kilosthey said they gonna super boost it last i read09:12
Kilosor super turbo or something09:12
Padronimeh09:12
Padronidid they fix that networking situation now?09:12
Kiloslooks like09:13
Kilosand langjan get you buntu working before you worry about thinking of the printe09:14
Kilospriorities09:14
langjanKilos: I see private user has quit, which protocol do I use? Then connection type V-Mux or LLC? Then vpi and vci, any niumbers in the alotted range?09:21
Kilosoh my09:21
Kilosi have no idea langjan 09:22
langjanmanual does not help, neither does google09:22
KilosPadroni can you help please09:22
Padronieh09:24
Padronihold on09:24
Padronilet me just log in to Untangle to look at my settings09:24
Kilosty09:25
Kilosmy router is like a doorstop. was easier to put a wifi card in pc and share wifi from there09:25
Padronilangjan, 09:26
Padroniwhat router you got?09:26
langjandlink 2750U09:28
Padroniis it the telkom one?09:30
langjanno bought it09:31
Padroniok - that's a good start09:32
langjangood to know!09:32
PadroniConnnection type will be LLC09:33
Padronieverythign is SLOW on my side due to SEACOM being down09:33
Padroniso this might take me a while09:33
langjansorry to keep you09:34
Padronino worries - I have time on my hands at the moment09:34
langjanthanks 09:34
Padroni*sigh*09:35
langjanLooks like protocol is dynamic ip?09:36
PadroniProtocol is PPPoE | Connection Type is LLC09:36
PadroniVPI = 009:36
PadroniVCI = 3509:36
Padronitry that09:36
langjanthks 09:36
Kiloswrite it all down and stick to wall by router09:37
PadroniWhat is your router's IP ?09:38
Padroniie, what is that address in your browser's address bar to connect to the router's login page09:38
Padronibecause all your computers should use the same IP range as the one the router is on09:39
Padroniie, if your router is 10.0.0.209:39
Padronithen give your pc's static IP's from 10.0.0.3 - 10.0.0.25409:39
Padronithat way they are on the same network and things should work easier09:40
langjanit keeps going back to login page after completing settings09:46
qwebirc3786Back again Kilos  whats the command for my name?09:53
Kilos  /nick langjan09:53
qwebirc3786nick langjan09:53
Kilos  /nick09:53
=== qwebirc3786 is now known as langjan
Kilosforwardalsh makes it a command09:53
Kilosslash09:54
langjanthks09:54
Kilosyw09:54
langjansorry router rebooted09:54
langjanShould I not change my ip address to fit in with router new config?09:55
Kilosdoesnt the router do auto ip thing09:57
langjanDont know, its configured and working, just not syncing with my ubuntu systems, if I change config I might lose this connection also? 09:59
Kilosai!10:00
langjanUbuntu systems all say its connected, but its not10:01
Kilosis there not a place in router setting where you activate each connection10:01
Kilosif buntu says its connect then it is to the router10:03
Kilosjust ruter not allowing internet access10:03
langjanAre activated and enabled but on ip 10.0.0.2, they were running on 10.0.0.410:04
Kiloswifi from buntu to router?10:04
langjan?10:05
Kilostry use cable from buntu then browse to it10:07
langjanshows enabled and visible10:07
Kilosai!10:07
Kilossee why mine is a doorstop10:07
Kilosnot even good at that10:07
langjanlappie picks up signal but does not connect10:08
Kilosim sure its the router not sharing the connection but how you set it i have no idea10:09
Padronihmmm10:09
Padronilangjan10:09
Padronicheck to see if you can allow remote admin on the router10:09
Padroniif so, activate it, then visit www.showmyip.co.uk and get me your IP address10:09
Padronigive me the IP and your router login in pvt so that I can have a look 10:09
Kilosty Padroni 10:10
langjanSorry Padroni how do I see if I can allow remote admin on router?10:12
Padronithere should be a function for it10:14
Padroniremote access or remote login10:14
Padroniremote administration even10:14
PadroniClick on Maintenance10:15
PadroniClick on Access Control - Services10:15
Padronienable all services under "Remote Access Control" and click Apply10:16
Padronithen get me that info I need10:16
langjanok trying...10:17
langjanAll applied, must I type my ip address here? 10:19
langjanPadroni: , and router login details10:20
Padronipvt it to me10:21
langjanpvt?10:22
Padroniprivate chat10:22
langjansorry dont know where?10:23
Padroniok10:23
Padronitry this10:23
Padronigo to www.teamviewer.com and install teamviewer10:23
Padronionce you got it, give me your ID + Password so I can log in10:24
langjanfound you on pvt, info is there, will it be better on teamviewer?10:26
PadroniI think so - I can't even ping that IP 10:41
Padronibut that could be due to bad connection on my side10:41
Padronibecause seacom...10:41
=== qwebirc62145 is now known as langjan
langjanDo we chat here or pvt? I received feedback from Windows that there are two computers with same ip address10:50
Padroniok10:51
Padronion your local network10:51
Padroniwhat is your router's IP address?10:52
PadroniBecause you may need to give each machine a static IP to resolve this10:52
langjanIt used to be 10.0.0.4, it changed to 10.0.0.2 when it was reset10:52
langjanso now its 10.0.0.210:53
Padroniok10:54
PadroniSo change your devices to use static IP's in the range of 10.0.0.3 - 10.0.0.25410:54
Padronimake sure they use 10.0.0.2 as primary DNS server, and 8.8.8.8 as secondary10:55
langjanChanges to be done in router?10:56
Padronino10:56
Padronion each device10:56
Padronithe linux machines should automatically connect using the correct IP range to be honest10:57
Padronionce they have found the router10:57
langjansorry how do I do that? I forgot about 60 years ago when I was 1310:57
Padronibut you may need to add the DNS server as reference10:57
Padronion linux?10:57
Padroniin ubuntu - top taskbar10:57
Padronilink on your connection 10:57
Padronithen --> Edit connection settings10:58
Padroni--> IPv410:58
Padroniadd the router as the primary DNS server10:58
Padronithat should work10:58
langjanok im going to work on my lappie, its closer but its wireless 10:58
Padronibro you need to change the IP settings on EVERY computer10:59
Padroniyou know what a IP is, right?10:59
Padroniit's your computer's address on the network10:59
langjanys but can I start on this one & make notes for the others? 11:00
Padroniand if your router is using 10.0.0.X your computer can't be using 192.168.x.x as it's two different networks11:00
Padroniok good11:00
langjanI have ip address11:01
langjanPadroni:  it says dns servers, only one space, then asks for "Search domains" 11:06
langjanNo space for secondary dns11:09
Padroniwhere is that now?11:09
Padroniwhich screen?11:09
Padroniwhich device?11:10
langjanin both devices, in "editing D-Link"  IPv4 settings, manual11:10
Padronidude11:14
Padroniare you editing the settings on your router from each device?11:14
Padronior are you editing the device's IP settings?11:14
langjanI went to top menu bar on screen, connections, edit connections, IPv4 settings, method=manual, add address11:16
Padroniok11:16
Padroniso do that for each device and reboot it11:16
Padronishould be able to connect then11:16
langjanthen inserted 10.0.0.6 in the one and 10.0.0.7 in the other but in dns inserted 10.0.0.2 in both but there is no place for cecondary dns11:17
langjanIt seems to want something else before it will save11:18
langjanmust I tick "Require IPv4 addressing for this connection to complete"? 11:19
langjanThat does not activate "save" button 11:19
Padroniyou can try11:21
langjanSomething is missing before I can save11:21
langjanI need net mask and gateway11:25
Kilosmethinks netmask is 255.255.255.25511:26
langjanIts 255.255.255.0 but gateway?11:26
Kilosare you doing this on the router langjan ?11:26
langjanno 11:27
Kilosoh11:27
Kiloson pc11:27
Kilosi think then the gateway is the router ip11:27
langjanediting router settings on connection in computer11:27
Kilossorry i was ouside11:27
langjanThat looks right11:28
Kiloslike when i let second pc share connection the gateway was the first pcs ip11:29
Kilosi thought the router was suppose to supply all ips with that dhcp thing11:31
Kilosterrible things11:32
langjanI have edited those connections but no change 11:32
Kilosdo the teamviewer thin with Padroni and whats how he sets it up11:33
Kiloswatch11:33
Private_Usersup people11:33
Kilosoom is battling11:33
Private_Userwas just reading all above11:33
Private_Userquestion, why not set all devices to acquire IP address automatically?11:34
Private_Userand set router to automatically assign IP address?11:34
Private_Userit would be much easier then to configure each device just a thought unless you guys have already tried that and maybe it did not work?11:35
langjanI thought that was what was supposed to happen11:35
langjanYes we did try- did not work11:36
langjanSo set devices back to automatic, the go to router?11:36
Private_Userjust to confirm you currently using your windows machine which is connected to the same router which is connected to the internet?11:37
langjanCorrect11:38
Private_Userok and this computer is configured to automatically obtain an IP address?11:39
langjanI would assume so because it just connected on click11:39
Private_Userok we can check to confirm which version of windows is it?11:40
langjanoh sorry, the ip address I obtained would then be for this machine11:40
langjanIt's Windows 711:40
Private_Userok lets just confirm the settings11:42
langjanok, on the router?11:43
Private_Useron the machine you currently using windows 7 machine cause that one is working11:44
Private_Useryou can go to start -> control panel -> Network and Internet -> Network and Sharing Center and then Click on Manage network connections11:44
langjanok what do you need?11:44
langjanok11:44
Private_Userthen tell me what you see there11:44
langjanInternet options?11:45
Private_Useror do you have TeamViewer installed on that machine I can connect to your machine quickly?11:46
Private_Userit would be Network and Internet11:46
Private_Userinternet options will taking you to your browser settings11:46
langjanshall we go team viewer?11:47
Private_Useryeah we can do that11:47
Private_UserI sent you a PM11:48
langjanok im on the site11:48
langjanWhat and where is the PM?11:49
Kilospm and pvt same thing11:50
Kilosprivate message11:50
Private_Usershould be in the browser window as a separate chat if you using your browser or if you using an IRC client then you should see a blinking window in there11:50
Kilosfirst boom boom power died12:10
Kilosand returned12:10
Kilossigh12:10
Private_Userhi langjan12:11
Private_UserI am connected to your machine but I see you busy?12:11
Kiloshmm...12:59
Private_UserKilos it looked like the router had its settings all cleared13:10
Sxuzahey guys 13:11
Kilosis it fixed now13:11
Kiloshi Sxuza 13:11
Private_Userwe tried to update now hopefully it worked13:11
Kiloswhew13:11
Private_Userlangjan is busy testing13:11
Sxuzadoes anyone know of a server that Mechanical Engineers are able to discuss under general 13:11
Kiloscool13:11
Sxuza##mechanics is dead and too quiet13:11
KilosSxuza why does google give you?13:15
Kilosmaybe they also go to other socialmedia13:15
Private_Userwell Kilos, we see langjan left the room so I assume he disconnected the connection he was using and is now trying to connect via the router13:15
Kiloslike G+13:15
Kiloslets hope so Private_User 13:15
Private_UserI am holding thumbs the router config was correct and he is able to connect13:16
Private_Useryep13:16
Kilospower gone13:16
Kiloswbb13:16
Private_Usereish13:16
Private_Userok13:16
Private_Userhi MaNI13:23
MaNIhi13:27
Private_UserMaNI: you with afrihost correct?13:30
Private_UserMaNI: just wanted to confirm the user name you enter on your router is the @afrihost address?13:31
=== qwebirc31594 is now known as langjan
Private_Userhi langjan13:34
Private_Usersorry I just realized what that message you received was complaining about13:34
langjanhi Private_User sorry it did not work, any other suggestions? 13:34
Private_UserI think I may have jumped the gun there13:34
Private_Userlangjan: I can connect to your machine quickly again and have s look?13:36
langjanThe feedback was the same, could not progress to the save page 13:36
Private_Useryeah I realized it was mistake13:36
langjansure let me see what to do13:36
langjanthks13:36
Private_Userwe needed to disable the other connection i.e. telkomguest13:37
Private_Useron the router13:37
Private_Userthen it should apply the settings13:37
Private_Useryou can try that quick and let me know13:37
langjanlet me see, that team viewer was a once-off, will probably have to rerun13:37
Private_Useryou should have a short cut on your desktop for it13:38
Private_Userif the ID and password is still the same then I should be able to connect however if its different use the private message window and send me the details13:39
langjanIts new13:41
Private_Userdoes anybody here know how to disable a connection on a Dlink DSL 2750U? the only option I see is to delete14:05
=== qwebirc97203 is now known as langjan
langjansorry connection dropped, had to reboot14:06
langjansorry connection dropped14:06
=== jan__ is now known as langjan
langjanHi Private_User Im chatting from my Ubuntu machine, what a pleasure - many, many thanks for your help!14:14
Private_Userah excellent14:14
Private_Userso it worked14:14
Private_UserI would suggest if you did not need to guest account and you have all the details for that setup written down somewhere you could always delete it14:15
langjanYes, wonderful. But frustrating - sorry I took so much of your time. OK will do that. Thks for popinting me to the best help kilos 14:16
Private_Userexcellent langjan glad I could help but sorry for jumping the gun earlier as I should have realized that the router was complaining about the guest account14:19
langjanNo problem, I'm very grateful14:21
langjankilos many thanks for the guidance14:21
Private_UserI think Kilos is offline at the moment he did say he lost power14:22
Private_Userbrb14:22
langjanOk will catch him later, go well. 14:26
langjanThks14:26
Kilospower returned14:40
LangjanHi Kilos  now back to square 1, my historic battle with printer ip address conflicts  15:00
LangjanCannot remember how, but I know we set the ip adress of the machines to 1.0.0.4 and above because the printer is 10.0.0.315:00
LangjanNow I'm back to 10.0.0.2 for my router and the printer right in the range...15:01
KilosLangjan is ubuntu working at least?15:11
LangjanHi Sorry I assumed that you had received my grateful thanks and applause. Yes, all machines up and running after a marathon session with the very kind Private_User 15:13
Kiloswonderful15:13
Kilosty Private_User 15:13
Kilosi had no power15:13
Kilosnow Langjan 15:14
Kilosdont break it again15:14
LangjanSlaap lekker vanaand sodat die krag kan terugkom...15:14
Kilosits on man15:15
Kilosgot feedback from the link you gave15:15
Kilos​Feedback successfully sent15:15
KilosThank you for your feedback which has been sent to the Department of Immigration 15:15
Kilosand Border Protection.15:16
KilosThe Reference Number for this feedback​ is: IMMI-16-0204115:16
KilosYou will receive an acknowledgement email in the near future.​​​​15:16
Kilosi did the complaints option15:16
Kilosi cant be online when power goes. battery lasts 2 mins15:16
Kilosso i rush to close everything and shutdown properly15:17
KilosLangjan ^^15:19
Kilosjust see when near future actually is15:19
LangjanWell at least theres some movement! Holding thumbs for you. 15:21
Kilosty15:21
ne2kapologies that this is way off-topic, but does anyone know of any general Afrikaans language channel on freenode or any other irc network? I'm an native English speaker trying to decipher some Afrikaans song lyrics to music I'm digging15:32
ne2kI've found ##afrikaans but it seems to have no-one in it...15:32
Kiloshi ne2k 15:33
Kiloswe have our own channel #ubuntu-afr15:33
ne2kKilos: hi15:33
Kiloswe can most likely help you if you have time15:34
ne2kcool, will join. thanks15:34
Kiloschesedo 15:59
Kiloshow good is your taal15:59
chesedoKilos: so that good that I had english as 1st lang in school16:46
Kiloscool16:46
Kilosjoin #ubuntu-afr16:47
Kilostheres a guy needs some words in a song translated16:47
Kiloshmm...18:24
Kilosthat mac book has infected me18:24
Kilosyawning18:24
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:26

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