[04:26] <dlPhreak> Mornin
[05:12] <Kilos> morning all
[05:13] <Padroni> hi
[05:15] <Kilos> poor langjan did a reset on his router now only his wifes windows can see the router so he will be here for help soon i think
[05:15] <Kilos> hopefully someone can help him
[05:15] <Kilos> i mailed him some links on how to get here from windows
[05:16] <Kilos> hope i got it right, still half asleep and head eina
[05:36] <Padroni> Only his wife's pc can see the router?
[05:36] <Kilos> yip
[05:36] <Padroni> is his network not maybe just configured wrong?
[05:38] <Kilos> it was, then kept dropping connection so he foned router peeps or someone, and they said reset
[05:38] <Kilos> after reset ubuntu cant see router anymore
[05:39] <Kilos> oh he went to afrihost and they said reset again
[05:39] <Kilos> but no good
[05:40] <Kilos> i sent him a link for hexchat on windows, then said he can login here directly from our site
[05:40] <Kilos> so he could come here as qwe something or other
[05:48] <Private_User> hey Kilos
[05:49] <Private_User> are you saying ubuntu not able to see it wirelessly but windows is able to see it wirelessly?
[05:49] <Kilos> hi Private_User 
[05:49] <Kilos> i dont know yet
[05:49] <Kilos> he will come here for help
[05:49] <Private_User> ah ok
[05:54] <Kilos> i go do chores
[06:23] <cal_py> Morning good people hope everyone's haveing a good day?
[06:29] <Kilos> hi cal_py just busy
[06:38] <Padroni> hi
[07:05] <chesedo> morning dlPhreak Kilos Padroni cal_py and all others
[07:05] <cal_py> hey chesedo 
[07:07] <dlPhreak> chesedo
[07:08]  * Padroni waves at superfly 
[07:10] <dlPhreak> Howz everyone?
[07:14] <chesedo> cal_py: good so far yes
[07:14] <chesedo> dlPhreak: great
[07:15] <dlPhreak> That's good
[07:18] <cal_py> good good good
[07:35] <Padroni> good morning
[08:29] <Kilos> hi qwebirc87123 
[08:29] <qwebirc87123> Hi Kilos 
[08:29] <Kilos> you made it oom
[08:29] <qwebirc87123> yip
[08:29] <qwebirc87123> funny name you gave me...
[08:29] <Kilos> guys this is langjan with the router issue
[08:31] <Kilos> Private_User ideas
[08:31] <Kilos> and Padroni 
[08:31] <Kilos> qwebirc87123 can you sign in on the router with windows?
[08:32] <qwebirc87123> yes I can 
[08:32] <qwebirc87123> thats where I am now
[08:32] <Kilos> type in here 
[08:32] <Kilos>   /nick langjan
[08:33] <Private_User> ah yes, question is your router not visible to your ubuntu machine wirelessly but is visible to your windows machine?
[08:34] <langjan> can connect via windows but router also not seen there
[08:34] <langjan> also not to ubuntu via wired connection
[08:34] <Private_User> what type of router is it? are you able to plug in a cable from the ubuntu machine and connect to via the browser by entering its default address?
[08:35] <langjan> Its a Dlink 2750U
[08:35] <langjan> can plug in but deafault address I had does not work
[08:36] <Private_User> the same address works on windows though?
[08:37] <langjan> well I assume its the same address but on windows I just go to connections and click connect
[08:38] <Private_User> ok in your browser in windows, if you type in the router address are you able to access it?
[08:39] <langjan> It says same as ubuntu, this web page is not available
[08:40] <Private_User> this is with a cable plugged in?
[08:40] <langjan> correct
[08:40] <langjan> but same result with wireless
[08:40] <langjan> on ubuntu
[08:41] <Private_User> but the windows machine you not able to access the router via the browser with the cable plugged in but you do get connected via connections and have an internet connection?
[08:42] <langjan> correct
[08:42] <Private_User> ok
[08:42] <Private_User> let me think now...
[08:42] <langjan> Private_User: could the router address have changed with reset to factory settings?
[08:43] <Private_User> resetting to factory settings will just change it back to its default address which in most cases would be either written on the router or on the router manual
[08:44] <langjan> ok looks like 10.0.0.2, was using 4, lets try
[08:45] <Private_User> ok cool
[08:46] <langjan> Ok I got the router via 10.0.0.2 on wired, silly old man
[08:46] <langjan> Thanks
[08:47] <langjan> let me see if I can get it going now
[08:47] <Private_User> cool stuff
[08:48] <Private_User> let me know how it goes
[08:48] <langjan> how do I avoid conflict with printer ip, or will it do it automatically if I switch printer on while configuring?
[08:48] <langjan> thanks
[08:58] <Private_User> if all devices are set to acquire IP address automatically they should be fine but if you did set a static IP for one of your devices and your router is set to assign IP addresses dynamically there should be a setting within the router to not assign specific IP addresses
[09:08] <Padroni> ok
[09:09] <Padroni> this seacom outtage is annoying
[09:10] <Padroni> 2nd time this month 
[09:11] <Kilos> out again
[09:12] <Kilos> they said they gonna super boost it last i read
[09:12] <Kilos> or super turbo or something
[09:12] <Padroni> meh
[09:12] <Padroni> did they fix that networking situation now?
[09:13] <Kilos> looks like
[09:14] <Kilos> and langjan get you buntu working before you worry about thinking of the printe
[09:14] <Kilos> priorities
[09:21] <langjan> Kilos: I see private user has quit, which protocol do I use? Then connection type V-Mux or LLC? Then vpi and vci, any niumbers in the alotted range?
[09:21] <Kilos> oh my
[09:22] <Kilos> i have no idea langjan 
[09:22] <langjan> manual does not help, neither does google
[09:22] <Kilos> Padroni can you help please
[09:24] <Padroni> eh
[09:24] <Padroni> hold on
[09:24] <Padroni> let me just log in to Untangle to look at my settings
[09:25] <Kilos> ty
[09:25] <Kilos> my router is like a doorstop. was easier to put a wifi card in pc and share wifi from there
[09:26] <Padroni> langjan, 
[09:26] <Padroni> what router you got?
[09:28] <langjan> dlink 2750U
[09:30] <Padroni> is it the telkom one?
[09:31] <langjan> no bought it
[09:32] <Padroni> ok - that's a good start
[09:32] <langjan> good to know!
[09:33] <Padroni> Connnection type will be LLC
[09:33] <Padroni> everythign is SLOW on my side due to SEACOM being down
[09:33] <Padroni> so this might take me a while
[09:34] <langjan> sorry to keep you
[09:34] <Padroni> no worries - I have time on my hands at the moment
[09:34] <langjan> thanks 
[09:35] <Padroni> *sigh*
[09:36] <langjan> Looks like protocol is dynamic ip?
[09:36] <Padroni> Protocol is PPPoE | Connection Type is LLC
[09:36] <Padroni> VPI = 0
[09:36] <Padroni> VCI = 35
[09:36] <Padroni> try that
[09:36] <langjan> thks 
[09:37] <Kilos> write it all down and stick to wall by router
[09:38] <Padroni> What is your router's IP ?
[09:38] <Padroni> ie, what is that address in your browser's address bar to connect to the router's login page
[09:39] <Padroni> because all your computers should use the same IP range as the one the router is on
[09:39] <Padroni> ie, if your router is 10.0.0.2
[09:39] <Padroni> then give your pc's static IP's from 10.0.0.3 - 10.0.0.254
[09:40] <Padroni> that way they are on the same network and things should work easier
[09:46] <langjan> it keeps going back to login page after completing settings
[09:53] <qwebirc3786> Back again Kilos  whats the command for my name?
[09:53] <Kilos>   /nick langjan
[09:53] <qwebirc3786> nick langjan
[09:53] <Kilos>   /nick
[09:53] <Kilos> forwardalsh makes it a command
[09:54] <Kilos> slash
[09:54] <langjan> thks
[09:54] <Kilos> yw
[09:54] <langjan> sorry router rebooted
[09:55] <langjan> Should I not change my ip address to fit in with router new config?
[09:57] <Kilos> doesnt the router do auto ip thing
[09:59] <langjan> Dont know, its configured and working, just not syncing with my ubuntu systems, if I change config I might lose this connection also? 
[10:00] <Kilos> ai!
[10:01] <langjan> Ubuntu systems all say its connected, but its not
[10:01] <Kilos> is there not a place in router setting where you activate each connection
[10:03] <Kilos> if buntu says its connect then it is to the router
[10:03] <Kilos> just ruter not allowing internet access
[10:04] <langjan> Are activated and enabled but on ip 10.0.0.2, they were running on 10.0.0.4
[10:04] <Kilos> wifi from buntu to router?
[10:05] <langjan> ?
[10:07] <Kilos> try use cable from buntu then browse to it
[10:07] <langjan> shows enabled and visible
[10:07] <Kilos> ai!
[10:07] <Kilos> see why mine is a doorstop
[10:07] <Kilos> not even good at that
[10:08] <langjan> lappie picks up signal but does not connect
[10:09] <Kilos> im sure its the router not sharing the connection but how you set it i have no idea
[10:09] <Padroni> hmmm
[10:09] <Padroni> langjan
[10:09] <Padroni> check to see if you can allow remote admin on the router
[10:09] <Padroni> if so, activate it, then visit www.showmyip.co.uk and get me your IP address
[10:09] <Padroni> give me the IP and your router login in pvt so that I can have a look 
[10:10] <Kilos> ty Padroni 
[10:12] <langjan> Sorry Padroni how do I see if I can allow remote admin on router?
[10:14] <Padroni> there should be a function for it
[10:14] <Padroni> remote access or remote login
[10:14] <Padroni> remote administration even
[10:15] <Padroni> Click on Maintenance
[10:15] <Padroni> Click on Access Control - Services
[10:16] <Padroni> enable all services under "Remote Access Control" and click Apply
[10:16] <Padroni> then get me that info I need
[10:17] <langjan> ok trying...
[10:19] <langjan> All applied, must I type my ip address here? 
[10:20] <langjan> Padroni: , and router login details
[10:21] <Padroni> pvt it to me
[10:22] <langjan> pvt?
[10:22] <Padroni> private chat
[10:23] <langjan> sorry dont know where?
[10:23] <Padroni> ok
[10:23] <Padroni> try this
[10:23] <Padroni> go to www.teamviewer.com and install teamviewer
[10:24] <Padroni> once you got it, give me your ID + Password so I can log in
[10:26] <langjan> found you on pvt, info is there, will it be better on teamviewer?
[10:41] <Padroni> I think so - I can't even ping that IP 
[10:41] <Padroni> but that could be due to bad connection on my side
[10:41] <Padroni> because seacom...
[10:50] <langjan> Do we chat here or pvt? I received feedback from Windows that there are two computers with same ip address
[10:51] <Padroni> ok
[10:51] <Padroni> on your local network
[10:52] <Padroni> what is your router's IP address?
[10:52] <Padroni> Because you may need to give each machine a static IP to resolve this
[10:52] <langjan> It used to be 10.0.0.4, it changed to 10.0.0.2 when it was reset
[10:53] <langjan> so now its 10.0.0.2
[10:54] <Padroni> ok
[10:54] <Padroni> So change your devices to use static IP's in the range of 10.0.0.3 - 10.0.0.254
[10:55] <Padroni> make sure they use 10.0.0.2 as primary DNS server, and 8.8.8.8 as secondary
[10:56] <langjan> Changes to be done in router?
[10:56] <Padroni> no
[10:56] <Padroni> on each device
[10:57] <Padroni> the linux machines should automatically connect using the correct IP range to be honest
[10:57] <Padroni> once they have found the router
[10:57] <langjan> sorry how do I do that? I forgot about 60 years ago when I was 13
[10:57] <Padroni> but you may need to add the DNS server as reference
[10:57] <Padroni> on linux?
[10:57] <Padroni> in ubuntu - top taskbar
[10:57] <Padroni> link on your connection 
[10:58] <Padroni> then --> Edit connection settings
[10:58] <Padroni> --> IPv4
[10:58] <Padroni> add the router as the primary DNS server
[10:58] <Padroni> that should work
[10:58] <langjan> ok im going to work on my lappie, its closer but its wireless 
[10:59] <Padroni> bro you need to change the IP settings on EVERY computer
[10:59] <Padroni> you know what a IP is, right?
[10:59] <Padroni> it's your computer's address on the network
[11:00] <langjan> ys but can I start on this one & make notes for the others? 
[11:00] <Padroni> and if your router is using 10.0.0.X your computer can't be using 192.168.x.x as it's two different networks
[11:00] <Padroni> ok good
[11:01] <langjan> I have ip address
[11:06] <langjan> Padroni:  it says dns servers, only one space, then asks for "Search domains" 
[11:09] <langjan> No space for secondary dns
[11:09] <Padroni> where is that now?
[11:09] <Padroni> which screen?
[11:10] <Padroni> which device?
[11:10] <langjan> in both devices, in "editing D-Link"  IPv4 settings, manual
[11:14] <Padroni> dude
[11:14] <Padroni> are you editing the settings on your router from each device?
[11:14] <Padroni> or are you editing the device's IP settings?
[11:16] <langjan> I went to top menu bar on screen, connections, edit connections, IPv4 settings, method=manual, add address
[11:16] <Padroni> ok
[11:16] <Padroni> so do that for each device and reboot it
[11:16] <Padroni> should be able to connect then
[11:17] <langjan> then inserted 10.0.0.6 in the one and 10.0.0.7 in the other but in dns inserted 10.0.0.2 in both but there is no place for cecondary dns
[11:18] <langjan> It seems to want something else before it will save
[11:19] <langjan> must I tick "Require IPv4 addressing for this connection to complete"? 
[11:19] <langjan> That does not activate "save" button 
[11:21] <Padroni> you can try
[11:21] <langjan> Something is missing before I can save
[11:25] <langjan> I need net mask and gateway
[11:26] <Kilos> methinks netmask is 255.255.255.255
[11:26] <langjan> Its 255.255.255.0 but gateway?
[11:26] <Kilos> are you doing this on the router langjan ?
[11:27] <langjan> no 
[11:27] <Kilos> oh
[11:27] <Kilos> on pc
[11:27] <Kilos> i think then the gateway is the router ip
[11:27] <langjan> editing router settings on connection in computer
[11:27] <Kilos> sorry i was ouside
[11:28] <langjan> That looks right
[11:29] <Kilos> like when i let second pc share connection the gateway was the first pcs ip
[11:31] <Kilos> i thought the router was suppose to supply all ips with that dhcp thing
[11:32] <Kilos> terrible things
[11:32] <langjan> I have edited those connections but no change 
[11:33] <Kilos> do the teamviewer thin with Padroni and whats how he sets it up
[11:33] <Kilos> watch
[11:33] <Private_User> sup people
[11:33] <Kilos> oom is battling
[11:33] <Private_User> was just reading all above
[11:34] <Private_User> question, why not set all devices to acquire IP address automatically?
[11:34] <Private_User> and set router to automatically assign IP address?
[11:35] <Private_User> it would be much easier then to configure each device just a thought unless you guys have already tried that and maybe it did not work?
[11:35] <langjan> I thought that was what was supposed to happen
[11:36] <langjan> Yes we did try- did not work
[11:36] <langjan> So set devices back to automatic, the go to router?
[11:37] <Private_User> just to confirm you currently using your windows machine which is connected to the same router which is connected to the internet?
[11:38] <langjan> Correct
[11:39] <Private_User> ok and this computer is configured to automatically obtain an IP address?
[11:39] <langjan> I would assume so because it just connected on click
[11:40] <Private_User> ok we can check to confirm which version of windows is it?
[11:40] <langjan> oh sorry, the ip address I obtained would then be for this machine
[11:40] <langjan> It's Windows 7
[11:42] <Private_User> ok lets just confirm the settings
[11:43] <langjan> ok, on the router?
[11:44] <Private_User> on the machine you currently using windows 7 machine cause that one is working
[11:44] <Private_User> you can go to start -> control panel -> Network and Internet -> Network and Sharing Center and then Click on Manage network connections
[11:44] <langjan> ok what do you need?
[11:44] <langjan> ok
[11:44] <Private_User> then tell me what you see there
[11:45] <langjan> Internet options?
[11:46] <Private_User> or do you have TeamViewer installed on that machine I can connect to your machine quickly?
[11:46] <Private_User> it would be Network and Internet
[11:46] <Private_User> internet options will taking you to your browser settings
[11:47] <langjan> shall we go team viewer?
[11:47] <Private_User> yeah we can do that
[11:48] <Private_User> I sent you a PM
[11:48] <langjan> ok im on the site
[11:49] <langjan> What and where is the PM?
[11:50] <Kilos> pm and pvt same thing
[11:50] <Kilos> private message
[11:50] <Private_User> should be in the browser window as a separate chat if you using your browser or if you using an IRC client then you should see a blinking window in there
[12:10] <Kilos> first boom boom power died
[12:10] <Kilos> and returned
[12:10] <Kilos> sigh
[12:11] <Private_User> hi langjan
[12:11] <Private_User> I am connected to your machine but I see you busy?
[12:59] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:10] <Private_User> Kilos it looked like the router had its settings all cleared
[13:11] <Sxuza> hey guys 
[13:11] <Kilos> is it fixed now
[13:11] <Kilos> hi Sxuza 
[13:11] <Private_User> we tried to update now hopefully it worked
[13:11] <Kilos> whew
[13:11] <Private_User> langjan is busy testing
[13:11] <Sxuza> does anyone know of a server that Mechanical Engineers are able to discuss under general 
[13:11] <Kilos> cool
[13:11] <Sxuza> ##mechanics is dead and too quiet
[13:15] <Kilos> Sxuza why does google give you?
[13:15] <Kilos> maybe they also go to other socialmedia
[13:15] <Private_User> well Kilos, we see langjan left the room so I assume he disconnected the connection he was using and is now trying to connect via the router
[13:15] <Kilos> like G+
[13:15] <Kilos> lets hope so Private_User 
[13:16] <Private_User> I am holding thumbs the router config was correct and he is able to connect
[13:16] <Private_User> yep
[13:16] <Kilos> power gone
[13:16] <Kilos> wbb
[13:16] <Private_User> eish
[13:16] <Private_User> ok
[13:23] <Private_User> hi MaNI
[13:27] <MaNI> hi
[13:30] <Private_User> MaNI: you with afrihost correct?
[13:31] <Private_User> MaNI: just wanted to confirm the user name you enter on your router is the @afrihost address?
[13:34] <Private_User> hi langjan
[13:34] <Private_User> sorry I just realized what that message you received was complaining about
[13:34] <langjan> hi Private_User sorry it did not work, any other suggestions? 
[13:34] <Private_User> I think I may have jumped the gun there
[13:36] <Private_User> langjan: I can connect to your machine quickly again and have s look?
[13:36] <langjan> The feedback was the same, could not progress to the save page 
[13:36] <Private_User> yeah I realized it was mistake
[13:36] <langjan> sure let me see what to do
[13:36] <langjan> thks
[13:37] <Private_User> we needed to disable the other connection i.e. telkomguest
[13:37] <Private_User> on the router
[13:37] <Private_User> then it should apply the settings
[13:37] <Private_User> you can try that quick and let me know
[13:37] <langjan> let me see, that team viewer was a once-off, will probably have to rerun
[13:38] <Private_User> you should have a short cut on your desktop for it
[13:39] <Private_User> if the ID and password is still the same then I should be able to connect however if its different use the private message window and send me the details
[13:41] <langjan> Its new
[14:05] <Private_User> does anybody here know how to disable a connection on a Dlink DSL 2750U? the only option I see is to delete
[14:06] <langjan> sorry connection dropped, had to reboot
[14:06] <langjan> sorry connection dropped
[14:14] <langjan> Hi Private_User Im chatting from my Ubuntu machine, what a pleasure - many, many thanks for your help!
[14:14] <Private_User> ah excellent
[14:14] <Private_User> so it worked
[14:15] <Private_User> I would suggest if you did not need to guest account and you have all the details for that setup written down somewhere you could always delete it
[14:16] <langjan> Yes, wonderful. But frustrating - sorry I took so much of your time. OK will do that. Thks for popinting me to the best help kilos 
[14:19] <Private_User> excellent langjan glad I could help but sorry for jumping the gun earlier as I should have realized that the router was complaining about the guest account
[14:21] <langjan> No problem, I'm very grateful
[14:21] <langjan> kilos many thanks for the guidance
[14:22] <Private_User> I think Kilos is offline at the moment he did say he lost power
[14:22] <Private_User> brb
[14:26] <langjan> Ok will catch him later, go well. 
[14:26] <langjan> Thks
[14:40] <Kilos> power returned
[15:00] <Langjan> Hi Kilos  now back to square 1, my historic battle with printer ip address conflicts  
[15:00] <Langjan> Cannot remember how, but I know we set the ip adress of the machines to 1.0.0.4 and above because the printer is 10.0.0.3
[15:01] <Langjan> Now I'm back to 10.0.0.2 for my router and the printer right in the range...
[15:11] <Kilos> Langjan is ubuntu working at least?
[15:13] <Langjan> Hi Sorry I assumed that you had received my grateful thanks and applause. Yes, all machines up and running after a marathon session with the very kind Private_User 
[15:13] <Kilos> wonderful
[15:13] <Kilos> ty Private_User 
[15:13] <Kilos> i had no power
[15:14] <Kilos> now Langjan 
[15:14] <Kilos> dont break it again
[15:14] <Langjan> Slaap lekker vanaand sodat die krag kan terugkom...
[15:15] <Kilos> its on man
[15:15] <Kilos> got feedback from the link you gave
[15:15] <Kilos> ​Feedback successfully sent
[15:15] <Kilos> Thank you for your feedback which has been sent to the Department of Immigration 
[15:16] <Kilos> and Border Protection.
[15:16] <Kilos> The Reference Number for this feedback​ is: IMMI-16-02041
[15:16] <Kilos> You will receive an acknowledgement email in the near future.​​​​
[15:16] <Kilos> i did the complaints option
[15:16] <Kilos> i cant be online when power goes. battery lasts 2 mins
[15:17] <Kilos> so i rush to close everything and shutdown properly
[15:19] <Kilos> Langjan ^^
[15:19] <Kilos> just see when near future actually is
[15:21] <Langjan> Well at least theres some movement! Holding thumbs for you. 
[15:21] <Kilos> ty
[15:32] <ne2k> apologies that this is way off-topic, but does anyone know of any general Afrikaans language channel on freenode or any other irc network? I'm an native English speaker trying to decipher some Afrikaans song lyrics to music I'm digging
[15:32] <ne2k> I've found ##afrikaans but it seems to have no-one in it...
[15:33] <Kilos> hi ne2k 
[15:33] <Kilos> we have our own channel #ubuntu-afr
[15:33] <ne2k> Kilos: hi
[15:34] <Kilos> we can most likely help you if you have time
[15:34] <ne2k> cool, will join. thanks
[15:59] <Kilos> chesedo 
[15:59] <Kilos> how good is your taal
[16:46] <chesedo> Kilos: so that good that I had english as 1st lang in school
[16:46] <Kilos> cool
[16:47] <Kilos> join #ubuntu-afr
[16:47] <Kilos> theres a guy needs some words in a song translated
[18:24] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:24] <Kilos> that mac book has infected me
[18:24] <Kilos> yawning
[18:26] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight