[00:00] <bazhang> debian?
[00:00] <Celphish> k1l_: interesting that it says that intel_pstate isn't activated by default, but I know it is, cause it looks like it
[00:00] <k1l_> i dont know if debian includes that. better ask in #debian
[00:01] <k1l_> Celphish: yes, i thought so too
[00:01] <ubuntu815> #debian is empty, I could reinstall ubuntu again
[00:02] <k1l_> ubuntu815: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest
[00:02] <Celphish> k1l_: I can get it to actually work manually, but not at boot.. that's weird
[00:03] <ubuntu815> I will do that, ty k1l_ be back soon
[00:03] <k1l_> ubuntu815: memtest needs to run some time
[00:03] <ubuntu815> yes
[00:05] <ubuntu815> have a prefered method of creating a bootable usb with ubuntu?
[00:05] <ubuntu815> currently using rufus
[00:06] <k1l_> personally i use dd
[00:06] <ubuntu815> dd?
[00:06] <k1l_> but anything that works, works :)
[00:06] <k1l_> a unix shell command
[00:06] <shadytv> dd is a command line tool
[00:06] <ubuntu815> gotcha
[00:06] <ubuntu815> any problems I should look out for with software on windows (rufus)?
[00:07] <edvan> brasil
[00:07] <shadytv> rufus is great on Windows idk why no-one has ported it to linux yet :(
[00:08] <ubuntu815> partition scheme is MBR or GBT?
[00:08] <Jordan_U> ubuntu815: http://askubuntu.com/questions/567982/kernal-panic-not-syncing-timeout-synchronizing-machine-check-over-cpus-ever For this user at least, the cause appears to have been a faulty CDROM drive.
[00:08] <ubuntu815> GPT*
[00:08] <ubuntu815> Jordan_U I don't have a CDROM drive
[00:08] <ubuntu815> and I found that post as well, thank you
[00:09] <ubuntu815> Had the same kernel panic line, but the rest was reporting CPU Machine Check Exception
[00:09] <Jordan_U> ubuntu815: It could be another piece of faulty hardware. Though that error message sounds like it's reporting a result of something else going terribly wrong, similar to saying that the cause of death for a person was "Their heart stopped beating".
[00:10] <yorwos> i am trying to install "lib32stdc++6" but im getting an error that it requires installing non-trusted packages ,and in the info it shows lib32stdc++6 again
[00:10] <Jordan_U> yorwos: Run "sudo apt update".
[00:11] <ubuntu815> Jordan_U makes sense.  I'll give the memtest a shot and come back
[00:12] <Bassem> i lock some application to the luncher but it dosnt show its icon it show it as question mark how can i change it
[00:14] <yorwos> im getting errors ill reboot
[00:16] <shadytv> Bassem can you find the .desktop file for the program in /usr/share/desktop? is it pointing to a valid icon?
[00:17] <shadytv> Bassem SORRY ****/usr/share/applications
[00:17] <Pinkamena_D> I installed ubuntu with software raid5 on six identical drives two days ago. It was fine while using it yesterday and rebooting it many times. Today I came in and I get raid error not enough operational devices on md0 (4/6) failed. I feel like this is so unlikely as to be impossible, and all drives are still seen in bios.
[00:18] <easyOnMe> just want to ask anyone familiar with vultr here
[00:18] <Bassem> shadytv, its an execution script
[00:18] <bazhang> !info vultr
[00:18] <bazhang> what is vultr easyOnMe
[00:19] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: Can you assemble the array from a LiveCD?
[00:19] <yorwos> im getting error : W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[00:19] <SchrodingersScat> !eolupgrade | yorwos, sounds like you're trying to 'upgrade' to an EOL
[00:19] <Jordan_U> Pinkamena_D: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:19] <MrMonkey31> it's been many a month... can I still install a 32 bit gcc using apt-get gcc:i386?  I need a 32 bit tool chain & it's not working
[00:20] <shadytv> Bassem yup sortof, you'll have to open it in a text editor. Once you do check what the "Icon=" is set to.
[00:20] <Jordan_U> yorwos: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:21] <yorwos> 14.04
[00:22] <nf> Hi, is there a specific package I have to install to be able to compile 32-bit executables with gcc on my 64-bit system? Right now, when I attempt to compile 32-bit executables, I get a preprocessor error (a header file included by stdio.h is not found).
[00:22] <edo1111> !list
[00:23] <edo1111> ciao
[00:23] <edo1111> !list
[00:23] <easyOnMe> just want to ask anyone familiar with vultr here
[00:23] <easyOnMe> and digital ocean
[00:23] <Jordan_U> edo1111: Again, this is *not* a file sharing channel or network.
[00:23] <nf> ls
[00:23] <bazhang> easyOnMe, what is vultr
[00:24] <k1l_> easyOnMe: i guess: ask vultr?
[00:24] <stickybranches> anyone hyped for 16.04?
[00:24] <SchrodingersScat> !16.04 | stickybranches
[00:24] <easyOnMe> k1l_: you mean go to their channel is
[00:24] <k1l_> stickybranches: the guys in #ubuntu+1 or for chating in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:25] <shadytv> GOT THAT MADD 16.04 HYPE!!!!
[00:25] <stickybranches> Either unity 8 or gnome shell for me
[00:25] <stickybranches> Atm fedora 23
[00:26] <easyOnMe> k1l_: man nobody is answering in #vultr channel
[00:27] <easyOnMe> probably they are too busy or sleeping
[00:27] <k1l_> easyOnMe: i dont see how we should help you in here with that commercial hoster.
[00:28] <easyOnMe> ah ok
[00:28] <easyOnMe> no I was just asking if anyone here is familiar
[00:28] <easyOnMe> just want to know how it works
[00:28] <easyOnMe> or does it make use of ubuntu server as well
[00:28] <easyOnMe> that's all
[00:28] <yorwos> i wonder if upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 will be an easy task
[00:29] <k1l_> yorwos: upgrades are automated tested. but 14.04 to 16.04 will be opened with 16.04.1 release
[00:29] <stickybranches> yorwos: are you running unity?
[00:29] <yorwos> no, xfce
[00:29] <stickybranches> so xubuntu?
[00:29] <stickybranches> :D
[00:29] <yorwos> ubuntu studio
[00:29] <stickybranches> ahh
[00:29] <stickybranches> :D
[00:29] <k1l_> stickybranches: 16.04 will still have unity7 and xorg as default.
[00:30] <stickybranches> Yeah, I know... Since drivers aren't ready yet.
[00:30] <stickybranches> Although I will probably just try 16.04 out in a VM. In the end I will probably return to arch
[00:30] <l4m8d4> guys, I have a problem booting my system after moving from mdadm+luks+lvm+btrfs with an unencrypted boot partition to two luks containers (one per disk) and a btrfs-raid1 on top.
[00:30] <stickybranches> I like gnome xD
[00:30] <yorwos> i wonder if my old amd gpu will work any better with kernel 4 when it finally arrives to my machine
[00:31] <k1l_> stickybranches: ubuntu got gnome aswell.
[00:31] <stickybranches> Yeah. Ubuntu gnome, but is it good though? I like the full gnome experience
[00:31] <stickybranches> Maybe with the ubuntu undersides, I have used arch for 2-3 months and it was damn good
[00:31] <k1l_> it is the full gnome experience
[00:31] <stickybranches> Oh goodie
[00:31] <l4m8d4> Grub can decrypt one volume, which seems enough for it to boot. Then the system starts booting, I get prompted for unlocking the first container, unlock it, and then it complains about lvm being not there and gets stuck...
[00:32] <stickybranches> maybe your partitioning is created so LVM can read it.. Like, afaik, lvm is like an extended partition
[00:33] <l4m8d4> I uninstalled lvm already and made sure grub is correctly configured, which seems to be the case since i get to boot. Also, I tried various fstab and crypttab permutations
[00:34] <l4m8d4> stickybranches: no, my system doesn't use lvm anymore. I configured the new partition without lvm
[00:34] <l4m8d4> *partitions
[00:34] <stickybranches> You might've messed up the partition table
[00:34] <stickybranches> If you changed it, but why did you do it?
[00:34] <l4m8d4> stickybranches: The partition table is fine, the system too, I am writing from a chroot into my system right now...
[00:34] <stickybranches> try booting into a live cd and fix it there
[00:34] <stickybranches> Ah
[00:34] <stickybranches> :D
[00:35] <stickybranches> I see
[00:35] <l4m8d4> So everything works perfectly, except it getting stuck
[00:35] <stickybranches> do you have a boot partition?
[00:35] <l4m8d4> because the lvm containers are seemingly not found...
[00:35] <stickybranches> LVM usually creates a boot partition
[00:36] <l4m8d4> I don't have a boot partition, I am using a fully encrypted setup where only grub is left unencrypted after mbr
[00:36] <Gallomimia> very interesting. and similar to my problem
[00:36] <l4m8d4> stickybranches: Like, I have grub installed onto my 2 drives, and then there's only a single partition per drive after tht
[00:36] <Gallomimia> you say the system doesn't use LVM
[00:37] <Gallomimia> but it complains that LVM is not present?
[00:37] <l4m8d4> Gallomimia: Correct!
[00:37] <Gallomimia> something's not fully deconfigured
[00:37] <l4m8d4> Gallomimia: My installation previously used lvm, but i wanted to get rid of it and changed around th partitions
[00:37] <Gallomimia> OR! maybe something in the setup still refers to an LVM volume as root or boot or something
[00:38] <stickybranches> but you can mount the partitions correct?
[00:38] <Gallomimia> yes your old setup was like mine. except i didn't use btrfs
[00:38] <MrMonkey31> nevermind - I forgot to do apt-get update after running dpkg --add-architecture i386
[00:38] <l4m8d4> Gallomimia: in crypttab, I correctly referenced both entries for the 2 containers. In fstab, I then correctly referenced the btrfs volume
[00:38] <Gallomimia> and you're in a chroot. are you putting those two in the right spot? not using old ones
[00:38] <l4m8d4> stickybranches: Yes, I mounted them right now from a usb stick and chrooted into it to get to ssh into my weechat machine :D
[00:39] <Gallomimia> why is it asking for lvm then?
[00:39] <l4m8d4> Gallomimia: I don't know... I've benn struggling with that for days.
[00:39] <Gallomimia> well i been struggling with mine for months so i know how that feels :/
[00:40] <l4m8d4> After setting up grub (which works), crypttab and fstab, I removed lvm2 and mdadm and moved their configurations files and folders
[00:40] <Gallomimia> build a new initrd?
[00:40] <l4m8d4> I always made sure to update-grub, update-initramfs etc.
[00:40] <stickybranches> can you update grub?
[00:40] <stickybranches> and report if there are errors?
[00:40] <l4m8d4> everything updates fine, no errors, nothing unexpected
[00:40] <stickybranches> hmm
[00:40] <Gallomimia> yep. you've exhausted my experience
[00:41] <l4m8d4> I've set up numerous encrypted systems up to now, but no fuly encrypted ones
[00:41] <Gallomimia> in fact i'm still trying to fix mine. i nuked the /boot partition and need to do all the stuff you just mentioned, but i'm too green and too sleepy :P
[00:41] <l4m8d4> But I dealt with crypttab many times before
[00:41] <stickybranches> Its generally good to have a / partition maybe /home and swap
[00:42] <Gallomimia> no swap on my system :/
[00:42] <stickybranches> thats about it, but sadly, my fedora also made itself a boot partition automatically :P so ya, but I'd just do three partitions
[00:42] <stickybranches> Or just / and swap.
[00:42] <stickybranches> But isn't swap useful?
[00:42] <stickybranches> depends on your ram
[00:42] <Gallomimia> yes, but the thing is swimming in ram
[00:42] <stickybranches> I have 6gb
[00:42] <stickybranches> but barely swaps
[00:42] <Gallomimia> 16
[00:42] <stickybranches> damn
[00:42] <stickybranches> Thats how much I would love to have
[00:42] <Gallomimia> it's never *HAD* swap
[00:42] <l4m8d4> stickybranches: It has technical reasons why i don't have tht. I basically want atomic snapshots of the WHOLE system. I don't know of any other waay to achieve that with or without btrfs.
[00:43] <l4m8d4> And my laptop don't need swap
[00:43] <Gallomimia> i bought another 16 but its mismatched timing and slows the system right down
[00:43] <stickybranches> I need 8+
[00:43] <donu7> Hello, what is the correct way to enable NAT between eth0 and eth1 ? I have a box w/ 2 nics - eth1 is an internal DHCP'd network and eth0 is where my internet connection is coming from but I'm not sure why requests coming in to the DHCP server on eth1 isn't being forwarded thru to eth0. can anyone help?
[00:43] <Gallomimia> i'd like to put my swap on an SSD which is split up between dm-cache and swap. but i got more work to do getting it booted
[00:43] <l4m8d4> I am literally so close to getting my dream setup and it seems like nothing helps
[00:44] <stickybranches> ip link?
[00:44] <Gallomimia> donu7: dhcp requests don't get forwarded.
[00:45] <Gallomimia> donu7: the dhcp is running on your 2nic box?
[00:45] <l4m8d4> I must have missed something... Is there any other lvm stuff besides /etc/lvm...? Maybe I didn't move that awayß and btw. I tried installing it again, too, where it then comlains about missing lvmetad after unlocking the first container on boot
[00:46] <Gallomimia> and it still complains?
[00:46] <l4m8d4> It complains differently. It seems to not find lvmetad then
[00:46] <Gallomimia> ...
[00:46] <l4m8d4> upon boot that is... no errors in the chroot
[00:47] <Gallomimia> something is using wrong configs!
[00:47] <Gallomimia> the complaint still happens within grub?
[00:47] <Gallomimia> or it's booting init already?
[00:47] <l4m8d4> No, the complaint happens after systemd took over and the init has begun
[00:47] <Gallomimia> uh. init, systemd whatever :P
[00:48] <l4m8d4> and after it asks for unlocking my first drive
[00:48] <Gallomimia> hm. i want to say it's in the initramfs then
[00:48] <Gallomimia> a concept i understand poorly at best
[00:48] <donu7> @stickybranches ip link - http://paste.ubuntu.com/14684273/ @Gallomimia dhcp is running on the box in question - it has 3 nics 2 of which are on the internal network (10.0.0.0/24) and eth0 is connected to the internet via 10.10.10.0/24 now, i'm 99% sure i'm missing something fundamental but I'm wondering if its possible for the machines that are in the internal network to route thru the dhcp box to the internet
[00:48] <axk4545_> hello. do you know if what the most recent kernel is on ubuntu?
[00:49] <axk4545_> *what
[00:49] <k1l_> axk4545_: for what release?
[00:49] <nacc> axk4545_: what release of ubuntu?
[00:49] <Gallomimia> donu7: what did you use to configure the NAT?
[00:49] <Gallomimia> and yes. it's possible
[00:50] <donu7> @Gallomimia I haven't configured anything to do the actual NAT-ing
[00:50] <Gallomimia> even easy. the system settings -> network have a bridge connections option that works pretty decently
[00:50] <Gallomimia> has a few loops it will throw i think. been awhile since i done it, and i don't have ubuntu running in front of me right now
[00:50] <Gallomimia> !nat
[00:50] <Gallomimia> uh....
[00:50] <l4m8d4> Is there something to completely rebuild initramfs? Like, even more than 'update-initramfs -u -k all'? Maybe there is really some lvm stuff lurking around from my previous setup
[00:50] <axk4545_> k1l_: Xubuntu 14.04 LTS. I need it to run VMWare.
[00:51] <Gallomimia> uh.... delete it?
[00:51] <Gallomimia> guess i should write down that command and investigate
[00:51] <l4m8d4> Gallomimia: And then update the initramfs to make it rebbuild?
[00:51] <donu7> I see, thank you @Gallomimia
[00:53] <Gallomimia> l4m8d4: no idea. i'm guessing. perhaps renaming is better than deleting
[00:53] <Gallomimia> donu7: did you get it working already? i'm sure there's a page and a link with concise steps
[00:53] <l4m8d4> Gallomimia: That's what i thought, too :D But I have backups in case
[00:55] <donu7> I'm looking at it now @Gallomimia — i've found some ubuntu articles on it but I have another set of questions now. It looks like the way to have NAT be done is to bridge the 2 nics on the DHCP box but that makes me wonder — I have a DHCP server on both the internal network and on the external network. If I bridge eth0/1 on the "gateway" between the 2 networks, is that going to cause issues where both DHCP servers will try to assign addresses to the two netwo
[00:55] <Psychot1cJ> hello
[00:56] <l4m8d4> Gallomimia: What file or folder is it, that makes up the initramfs? I am quite sure it is in the boot folder somewhere...
[00:56] <Psychot1cJ> anyone using a raspberry pi?
[00:56] <Gallomimia> donu7: dhcp requests don't get forwarded
[00:56] <Gallomimia> and yes. it's very very bad to have 2 different dhcp servers on the same network. usually gets you kicked off
[00:57] <Gallomimia> l4m8d4: /etc/initramfs-tools i think
[00:57] <Gallomimia> makes up the initramfs?
[00:57] <Gallomimia> you mean, creates, or what folders are in it?
[00:58] <cfoch> hello
[00:58] <Gallomimia> hi
[00:58] <cfoch> is gradle the same of gradlew ?
[00:58] <cfoch> http://developer.android.com/intl/es/tools/building/building-cmdline.html
[00:59] <Gallomimia> i don't think that's on topic here pal
[01:00] <Pinkamena_D> Jordan_U: 14.04
[01:00] <cfoch> I refer to the gradle on Ubuntu repos
[01:00] <Pinkamena_D> trying to assemble on initramfs but I get permission denied
[01:00] <cfoch> if this is the same of the gradlew command or not
[01:00] <Pinkamena_D> any way to sudo on busybox?
[01:02] <l4m8d4> Gallomimia: Ok I think I made a mistake. I deleted the initramfs with update-initramfs -d. I tried to recreate it afterwards with update-initramfs -c, but it doesn't do anything and the initramfs doesn't get recreated
[01:04] <Gallomimia> uh
[01:04] <Gallomimia> so how does it boot?!
[01:04] <l4m8d4> Anyone know how to create a new initramfs if 'update-initramfs -c -k all' doesn't work?
[01:05] <l4m8d4> Gallomimia: Well, I guess it doesn't, but I didn't reboot yet
[01:05] <Ninkadas> Hello people
[01:05] <Ninkadas> I dont know if this is the correct place to ask but I need some help
[01:05] <Gallomimia> !ask
[01:06] <l4m8d4> Strange that it doesn't throw an error, with the '-v' flas it just says it has nothing to do...
[01:06] <Ninkadas> Im new to linux
[01:06] <Gallomimia> Ninkadas: you are using ubuntu today?
[01:06] <Ninkadas> I dont really know much, I've been using it for like 3 days and today I wanted to use a remote keyboard
[01:06] <Gallomimia> like.... bluetooth?
[01:06] <Ninkadas> It uses bluetooth and I already have a bluetooth dongle plus bluetooth installed
[01:06] <Ninkadas> But I dont really know how to connect
[01:07] <Ninkadas> I've managed to get the BLuetooth code
[01:07] <Gallomimia> have you used the bluetooth dongle to connect to something else before? you know it works?
[01:07] <Ninkadas> Not really
[01:07] <Ninkadas> I've been using windows for years
[01:07] <Gallomimia> cause my experience with bluetooth and ubuntu is tough to find drivers
[01:07] <Bashing-om> l4m8d4: maybe something like : 'sudo update-initramfs -u -k 2.6.35-28-generic ' If your previous kernel works you can rebuild the later initrd.img. e.g. (change the kernel version as appropriate) .
[01:07] <Gallomimia> so. keep that in mind as you try to solve the problem
[01:08] <Gallomimia> Ninkadas: have you seen this page yet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[01:09] <l4m8d4> Bashing-om: well, I'm already root. But shouldn't "-k all" just build it for all kernels? And "-u" doesn't do it for me sadly, because I have no initramfs to update.
[01:09] <Ninkadas> Yeah
[01:09] <Ninkadas> I got the device code
[01:09] <l4m8d4> Will the system be able to boot without initramfsß
[01:09] <l4m8d4> *?
[01:09] <Ninkadas> But when I dont understand the command that comes after
[01:09] <Ninkadas> DC:2C:26:C3:89:CA so this is the command
[01:10] <Ninkadas> sudo ./test-device trusted XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX yes  sorry, this one
[01:10] <Ninkadas> All I have to do Is replace the XX.XX with the device code RIght?
[01:10] <Gallomimia> Ninkadas: oops. it looks like the info on that page is up to 6 years old
[01:10] <Gallomimia> l4m8d4: no.
[01:11] <Gallomimia> Ninkadas: this page might be more useful? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth
[01:12] <Ninkadas> I think I already installed a program from the Ubuntu Store
[01:12] <Gallomimia> it appears to have a graphical method of doing this
[01:12] <l4m8d4> Well, I just thought, if it tells me it has nothing to do when I reuest a new initramfs, maybe it doesn't need one :D
[01:12] <Ninkadas> But I Dont know where 2 find it. (Sorry for my dumb questions, I really dont know much about LInux)
[01:12] <Gallomimia> l4m8d4: the "init" that starts lives on the initramfs
[01:13] <Gallomimia> Ninkadas: that page i linked most recently shows a bluetooth icon in the topright that you can click
[01:13] <Gallomimia> !bluetooth | Ninkadas
[01:13] <Gallomimia> booo
[01:13] <Ninkadas> Thanks! I'll check it out
[01:15] <Ninkadas> Oh my ubuntu is 1.10.2
[01:15] <Ninkadas> DOes that change anything?
[01:15] <Gallomimia> that's the first link i sent
[01:15] <Gallomimia> yes. because you missed a number, i now assume you're using an OS published in 2001
[01:15] <Ninkadas> Oh..
[01:15] <Gallomimia> the first number is 14?
[01:16] <dotpixis> Ninkadas: try this command and tell us what it outputs "uname -a"
[01:17] <Ninkadas> 4.1.15-v7+
[01:18] <dotpixis> Ninkadas: try this "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:18] <Gallomimia> lots of text spits out
[01:18] <Gallomimia> then it asks you a question
[01:18] <Gallomimia> none of care about the text except the question: how many updates is it about to install?
[01:19] <Ninkadas> Its updating
[01:19] <Gallomimia> nope it's just checking if updates are needed
[01:19] <axk4545_> I just installed xubuntu on a secondary hdd. my primary hdd also has grub and Fedora installed. How do I make that grub the bootloader and remove the second one?
[01:19] <dotpixis> axk4545_: why do you need to delete grub? how much space are you saving?
[01:20] <Bashing-om> l4m8d4: 'Nother thought ' update-initramfs -vu -k $(uname -r) |& tee /tmp/initrd.log ' see then if the generated file has any hints ?
[01:20] <Gallomimia> axk4545_: your motherboard and bios decide which drive boots up first
[01:20] <axk4545_> dotpixis: it isn't space? it is having two bootloaders won't they conflict.
[01:20] <Gallomimia> no
[01:20] <dotpixis> as Gallomimia said
[01:21] <Ninkadas> So, My update is gonna take 15 minutes 2 download
[01:21] <Ninkadas> 54
[01:21] <axk4545_> Gallomimia: can I remove the second one?
[01:21] <Gallomimia> you can
[01:21] <dotpixis> Ninkadas: you're upgrading your distro, it should solve most problems
[01:21] <Gallomimia> but its usually written to the first sector ofthe drive
[01:21] <l4m8d4> Bashing-om: I just tried again specifying the exact kernel. It worked now, I have an initramfs again :D - It seems like it can't figure it out on its own when creating a new one to determine all the needed arguments
[01:21] <Gallomimia> dotpixis: actually she's just upgrading all the software
[01:22] <dotpixis> Gallomimia: rly?
[01:22] <dotpixis> okay then
[01:22] <l4m8d4> Well, now that I got a new initrams, I think it's time to try once again if it helped.... wish me luck - I should be back in a few mins
[01:23] <Gallomimia> luck
[01:23] <Gallomimia> dotpixis: a full release upgrade the command is do-release-upgrade
[01:23] <Bashing-om> l4m8d4: :) ; sometimes specifying the target helps the system bunches .
[01:24] <l4m8d4> I forgot I don't have to exit since this runs on a server :D well I am afk for a few minuted :D
[01:24] <Gallomimia> and i've heard it said in here that clean installs are better than do-release-upgrade
[01:24] <dotpixis> clean installs are cleaner...
[01:26] <DirtyCajun> why does ssh not recognize hostname for the sake of ssh?
[01:28] <k1l_> DirtyCajun: like where?
[01:29] <DirtyCajun> like... im on box 192.168.1.10 and i ssh to cajunserver nothing happens. but i ssh to 192.168.1.12 and it does work and when logged in its user@cajunserver
[01:30] <l4m8d4> I'm back... and it didn't work sadly
[01:30] <k1l_> DirtyCajun: does it use that name in the network, too?
[01:31] <l4m8d4> it still does the same thing: It boots, let's me unlock the first container, and starts complaining
[01:31] <DirtyCajun> it should? /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname are both set for that
[01:31] <l4m8d4> "cryptsetup: lvm is not available"
[01:33] <Bashing-om> l4m8d4: A shot in the dark. System sstill looking for swap as encrypted ? What returns ' swapon --summary ' ?
[01:34] <l4m8d4> Bashing-om: I don't have swap on my system. My old setup didn't have it either.
[01:34] <l4m8d4> Bashing-om: I only have these 2 containers with a btrfs-raid1-parity in them, nothing else
[01:34] <max3> is utf-8 not the right encoding to display cyrillic characters in terminal?
[01:35] <Dylan____> Can someone give me assistance please?
[01:35] <Dylan____> If your willing?
[01:35] <l4m8d4> Bashing-om: I DID have lvm on my old partition setup, however, but if it isn't properly deconfigured, I have no clue what I have missed...
[01:35] <l4m8d4> !ask
[01:36] <l4m8d4> I guess now at least I know it's not from the initramfs
[01:37] <Dylan____> I am trying to install ubuntu in dualboot format i have downloaded and installed windows 10 IN [32bit] on my mac and now i want to dualboot with ubuntu problem is when i boot ubuntu it says it has no operating system and someone on the fourm said something not even helpful wbout OSX when i clearly have stated i do not have os x el captian on this macbook
[01:37] <Dylan____> because i have wiped it clean and only installed windows 10 and i said i would only want to dualboot windows 10 and ubuntu together but clearly i cant cause it doesnt see the OS
[01:37] <l4m8d4> The sad thing is, it's probably such an easy solution if one knows what he/she/its is doing, but I don'T! :/
[01:38] <l4m8d4> Dylan____: Do you have 2 seperate partitions for the Oses?
[01:41] <l4m8d4> I stumbled over something: in /boot/grub/i386-pc/ there are many .mod files, among them also a "lvm.mod" file. Is that normal? I mean, there are many modules in there, it could well be just normal grub stuff it just skips it it's not there
[01:42] <Dylan____> Nope
[01:42] <Dylan____> I only have the one
[01:42] <Dylan____> 250gigs
[01:42] <k1l_> DirtyCajun: is avahi-daemon installed?
[01:43] <l4m8d4> Dylan____: So you chose to install ubuntu alongside windows 10 or something, right?
[01:43] <Bashing-om> l4m8d4: Checking my install for the .mod file .
[01:43] <Gallomimia> Dylan____: you're not talking about the same thing as l4m8d4. a hard drive is a physical thing. a partition is an invented slice of that hard drive
[01:44] <Dylan____> I have installed windows 10 and i would like to use ubuntu
[01:44] <Dylan____> On it
[01:44] <Dylan____> So dualboot
[01:44] <Gallomimia> an imaginary concept. the computersays it's the partition, soit is.
[01:44] <Gallomimia> you MUST have two separate partitions.
[01:44] <Gallomimia> period
[01:44] <DirtyCajun> k1l_: it is not
[01:44] <Gallomimia> the ubuntu installer will do it up automagically if you pick that option
[01:45] <Bashing-om> l4m8d4: Nope that file is default " -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6768 Jan  5 21:07 /boot/grub/i386-pc/lvm.mod " .
[01:45] <Dylan____> Yes problem is when i put the cd in and reboot it says no os found
[01:45] <l4m8d4> I was asking because I thought I saw something in the past where you could install ubuntu into it's own folder on windws basically, avoiding a second partition. But that is very strange
[01:45] <Gallomimia> holding option to get the boot select screen?
[01:45] <Dylan____> Thats wubi
[01:45] <Dylan____> Wubi isnt supported in windows 8 up
[01:45] <Gallomimia> l4m8d4: that's called cyg-win
[01:45] <Gallomimia> oh wubi too?
[01:45] <l4m8d4> Bashing-om: Thank you for checking! So this shouldn't be the problem.
[01:45] <k1l_> DirtyCajun: then install it
[01:45] <Dylan____> Wubi u can dualboot
[01:46] <k1l_> dont use wubi
[01:46] <Dylan____> But since windows 10 cant do it
[01:46] <Dylan____> Only windows 7 can use wubi 8 and up cant
[01:46] <Gallomimia> install ubuntu
[01:46] <DirtyCajun> k1l_: whats it do? if it just registers hostnames why can i not put it in a static list somewhere
[01:46] <k1l_> and even windows7 will break with wubi. so dont use that
[01:46] <Dylan____> Wait let me go get my macbook
[01:46] <Dylan____> Im gonna put my ubuntu cd in
[01:46] <l4m8d4> Gallomimia: No I'm not talking about cygwin. I mean something else. It would also have its own kernel in there, very strange stuff. Don't know if it ever was or is still common, though
[01:47] <Gallomimia> Dylan____: you have a separate computer to browse and irc?
[01:48] <Dylan____> I got my ipad im using for irc
[01:49] <Dylan____> So im inserted my ubuntu cd ill click the windows or efi boot
[01:49] <Gallomimia> good. its nearly impossible to fix problems with only one system and you're rebooting
[01:49] <Gallomimia> Dylan____: how did you boot it? put disk in? push power and hold option?
[01:49] <Dylan____> Yeah
[01:49] <Dylan____> Its given me an option to windows or efi boot
[01:49] <Gallomimia> pick the option that's not-windows i guess?
[01:50] <Dylan____> Ok
[01:50] <Dylan____> Said something about efi wasnt found
[01:50] <Dylan____> got into gnu grub screen
[01:50] <Gallomimia> yeah. you were supposed to burn a disc that had no efi i thought?
[01:50] <Dylan____> I pressed install ubuntu
[01:50] <Gallomimia> oh
[01:50] <Gallomimia> good
[01:50] <Gallomimia> now it gives options?
[01:50] <Gallomimia> or... keyboard setup first
[01:51] <Dylan____> Just waiting for it go to ubuntu purple screen first
[01:51] <Gallomimia> ah yes that takes a bit
[01:51] <Dylan____> Yup
[01:51] <Gallomimia> especially from cd or usb
[01:51] <Dylan____> Usb would be faster
[01:51] <Gallomimia> no idea. are your usb ports 3.0?
[01:51] <Dylan____> Idk what my mac ports are
[01:52] <Gallomimia> mine arn't. but the lappy was made in 2010
[01:52] <Dylan____> Yeah
[01:52] <Dylan____> I think there 2.0
[01:52] <Dylan____> Its booting now give it a second
[01:52] <Gallomimia> anyway, probably the dvd is faster since it's connected via sata. no idea. doesn't matter now
[01:53] <Dylan____> Ok im did the option to install ubuntu
[01:53] <Gallomimia> how many choices now?
[01:53] <Gallomimia> oh it's at "install or try" ?
[01:53] <Dylan____> Install and try
[01:53] <Dylan____> Im gonna press install
[01:53] <Gallomimia> yep
[01:53] <nny> is it possible to setup 2 wifi adapters? i have one wireless card built in the other is a usb wireless adapter.
[01:54] <Gallomimia> nny sure is
[01:54] <Dylan____> says no operating systems are detected
[01:54] <Dylan____> Hmm
[01:54] <Gallomimia> wait why?
[01:54] <Dylan____> Idk
[01:54] <Gallomimia> where is it at?
[01:54] <Dylan____> What you mean
[01:54] <Gallomimia> well, it's running something
[01:55] <Dylan____> My windows is on drive
[01:55] <Gallomimia> it's booted into the installer. it's looking for OS
[01:55] <Dylan____> As in my 250gig
[01:55] <Gallomimia> yeah. but it doesn't seeit
[01:55] <Dylan____> How can i make it?
[01:55] <Gallomimia> i'm not sure. you might be better off manually partitioning
[01:55] <Dylan____> Oh:/
[01:55] <Gallomimia> anyone know why the ubuntu installer won't see the win10 install already existing?
[01:55] <Dylan____> Never done that before
[01:55] <Gallomimia> let's wait a second...
[01:56] <Gallomimia> you got a fullscreen of stuff there? 4 different options maybe?
[01:56] <Dylan____> Ill boot back into windows
[01:56] <Gallomimia> no wait
[01:56] <Dylan____> Ok
[01:56] <Gallomimia> what options does it give you? scan again?
[01:56] <Dylan____> Its got 4 options erase disk and install ubuntu encrypt the new ubuntu installation for security use lvm or something else
[01:57] <Gallomimia> yeah that top option is precisely what you DO NOT want to do
[01:57] <Dylan____> Even though i have windows installed
[01:57] <Dylan____> Yup
[01:57] <Gallomimia> there's nothing to tell it to scan again?
[01:57] <Gallomimia> hit the bottom option then
[01:57] <Dylan____> Ok
[01:57] <Dylan____> Ok here is some random thing
[01:58] <Dylan____> Theres a /dev/sda thing i dont know and free space 250059
[01:58] <Gallomimia> that's your hard drive
[01:58] <Dylan____> But that 250059 will erase my windows 10 etc
[01:58] <Gallomimia> 250gigs
[01:58] <Dylan____> Yeah
[01:58] <Gallomimia> yeah don't do that.
[01:58] <Dylan____> Ok
[01:58] <Gallomimia> you can add partitions. resize that one, and add a few more
[01:58] <Gallomimia> before it writes changes, it will warn you and ask "do you want to write these changes" don't do that yet
[01:59] <Dylan____> Hold what you want me to do?
[01:59] <Gallomimia> resize that first partition
[01:59] <Dylan____> Im stuck idk if i click the free space
[01:59] <Gallomimia> which should be called sda1
[01:59] <Dylan____> Its called free space
[01:59] <Gallomimia> the freespace ought to be really small
[01:59] <Gallomimia> like 1meg
[01:59] <Dylan____> Nah
[01:59] <Dylan____> Its 250g
[01:59] <Gallomimia> it's not 250g of free space
[01:59] <Dylan____> It is
[01:59] <Dylan____> That what is says it is
[01:59] <Gallomimia> no. it has win10 on it
[02:00] <Dylan____> Yes i know that it has win 10 installed on thst
[02:00] <Gallomimia> it says 250 is all free? no other partitions
[02:00] <Dylan____> No others just that
[02:00] <Gallomimia> wow.
[02:00] <Dylan____> If you want me i can take some picture
[02:00] <Dylan____> And show you
[02:00] <Gallomimia> no i believe you
[02:00] <Dylan____> Yeah
[02:00] <Gallomimia> just that... i don't believe ubuntu :P
[02:00] <Gallomimia> cause you just booted it to windows right?
[02:00] <beepie> euuugggh windows...
[02:01] <Dylan____> What i did is
[02:01] <Gallomimia> on a macbook.
[02:01] <Dylan____> When i burned the windows 10
[02:01] <Dylan____> I erased partitons
[02:01] <Dylan____> And put windows 10 on that whole partiton
[02:01] <Gallomimia> heh. you need to learn to image your usb keys as installer dvd's
[02:01] <Dylan____> Thats the only drive i got
[02:01] <Gallomimia> you told me earlier you have a few usb sticks
[02:01] <Dylan____> Has a dev sda and 250059mb
[02:02] <beepie> Gallomimia, you can use windows on macs
[02:02] <Gallomimia> sure
[02:02] <Gallomimia> ever since intel cpu's
[02:02] <Gallomimia> native install. giv'er
[02:02] <beepie> Gallomimia, but it's imho just as easy to install linux on them (depends sometimes on distro)
[02:02] <Dylan____> Yes but problem is that i found out my mac needs to not have uefi so my nvidia works probably
[02:02] <Dylan____> I found it out from this guy who has the same mac as me
[02:02] <Dylan____> And he ran kubuntu
[02:02] <Gallomimia> beepie: actually it's not just as easy. bootloaders become an issue
[02:02] <tyrion2> HELP  why is ubuntus python 3.4 pyvenv broken
[02:02] <Dylan____> He says install ubuntu from cd no uefi
[02:02] <tyrion2> this is so annoying
[02:03] <Dylan____> So what do i do:/
[02:03] <tyrion2> how do you get the ubuntu people to fix that?
[02:03] <beepie> Gallomimia, actually just renaming the .efi to bootx64.efi to the standard boot locations works here for different distros
[02:03] <Dylan____> Resize partitons in windoes?
[02:03] <beepie> Gallomimia, (efibootmgr for mac is not needed)
[02:03] <Gallomimia> Dylan____: that might be best
[02:03] <beepie> Gallomimia, i've done it :p
[02:03] <Dylan____> And remember i downloaded a copy of windows 10 as 32bit burned it installed it wiped the cd and installed ubuntu x64
[02:04] <Dylan____> Anyways what should i do now ill reboot into windows
[02:04] <Gallomimia> but when you boot into windows look and check what filesystem it's formatted your drive to
[02:04] <l4m8d4> Dylan____: Which ubuntu version is your CD? Formatting on windows might be a good idea. Try to shrink your windows partition and make a new, unformatted one after that.
[02:04] <beepie> Dylan____, what seems to be the problem?
[02:04] <Dylan____> My ubuntu version is 14.04.3 on the cd
[02:04] <Gallomimia> l4m8d4: trying to shrink the windows partition is what we're up to
[02:04] <DirtyCajun> Why isnt network manager installed by default on 15.10
[02:04] <Dylan____> Im gonna reboot into windows
[02:05] <beepie> it's possible to use gparted live iso even with macs
[02:05] <l4m8d4> Dylan____: You could try a 15.10 CD, newer is better :D
[02:05] <Gallomimia> l4m8d4, beepie, the partition manager in the ubuntu installer shows his drive as all free space
[02:05] <xangua> DirtyCajun: it is
[02:05] <k1l_> DirtyCajun: it is on the desktops
[02:05] <Gallomimia> when he's very certain it's all dedicated to win10
[02:05] <DirtyCajun> on server
[02:05] <beepie> maybe that's because he's using apple's dumb hybrid mbr-gpt thing, that is crap
[02:05] <k1l_> DirtyCajun: you dont need network manager on a server
[02:05] <Dylan____> That 250gig is all dedicAted to win10
[02:05]  * beepie thinks Dylan____ is using' "bootcamp"
[02:05] <Gallomimia> DirtyCajun: cause you're expected to use /etc/interfaces
[02:05] <beepie> bootcamp is crap!
[02:05] <Dylan____> Im not using bootcamp
[02:05] <Dylan____> I dont have os x
[02:06] <Dylan____> I uninstalled os x off this mac
[02:06] <Gallomimia> you want it that way?
[02:06] <DirtyCajun> so adding a nameserver to /etc/resolv.conf is correct on the server?
[02:06] <beepie> Dylan____, bootcamp is a tool in OsX to help partitiong, and then there are bootcamp "windows drivers" ...
[02:06] <l4m8d4> Gallomimia: I read that, but I don't think windows can be installed onto a whole drive. I think the instaler would make a whole sized partition and install onto that.
[02:06] <DirtyCajun> and you can have as many nameservers as you want right?
[02:06] <beepie> Dylan____, it should be seeing space used up
[02:06] <Dylan____> Right what do i do
[02:06] <Dylan____> Im in windows
[02:06] <l4m8d4> beepie: you might be onto something with the custom partition table there.
[02:06] <beepie> Dylan____, even if you used "bootcamp windows drivers" which should not be an issue
[02:06] <Dylan____> Want me to run partitons?
[02:06] <Gallomimia> find the drive utility and ask it whats up
[02:06] <Gallomimia> yes
[02:07] <Gallomimia> how many partitions? what filesystem are they
[02:07] <Dylan____> Just got into windows disk managmwmt
[02:07] <Dylan____> Disk 0 500mb system reserved 232.40 gb NTFS C:
[02:07] <beepie> Dylan____, use a fdisk tool and create a protective MBR in the dosmbr table
[02:08] <Dylan____> So i got system reserved and C:
[02:08] <Gallomimia> Dylan____: do what beepie says, cause he's smarter than me.
[02:08] <Dylan____> Both as ntfs
[02:08] <beepie> Dylan____, that's what i think Ubuntu installer is looking for, so instead of it lookingat the GPT table, it sees there's nothing in hte MBR table
[02:08] <Dylan____> Okay??
[02:08] <Gallomimia> beepie: you might need to tell him what an fdisk tool is
[02:08] <Dylan____> I know the command fdisk
[02:09] <Gallomimia> (and i'm watching cause i wanna know too)
[02:09] <Gallomimia> in windows?
[02:09] <Dylan____> what do you want me to do beepie
[02:09] <dotpixis> Gallomimia: don't say the name that shall not be named
[02:10] <beepie> Dylan____, i tihnk the ubuntu installer is ignoring GPT because it is first looking for a MBR table, simply (maybe) if you create a "protective" entry for GPT, it might force the installer to look at the gpt table
[02:10] <Dylan____> Ok
[02:10] <basil2x> CP/M?
[02:10] <Dylan____> How can i do that?
[02:10] <beepie> Dylan____, GPT allows this MBR table to exists -- so that any dosmbr tool can prevent from doing damage..
[02:10] <Dylan____> Im so noobish at this
[02:10] <beepie> Dylan____, not sure but I know it's common to see on gpt drives
[02:11] <Dylan____> Want me to run cmd?
[02:11] <beepie> Dylan____, my suggestion is of course to backup your current data from the drive, and try to creete that dosmbr entry --
[02:11] <beepie> Dylan____, possibly cfdisk can do it
[02:11] <Dylan____> So if i run cfdisk?
[02:11] <Dylan____> Not even a command
[02:11] <beepie> Dylan____, i'll check something
[02:12] <Gallomimia> Dylan____: before you go any further, are there any documents on this computer you can't afford to lose?
[02:12] <Dylan____> No documents
[02:12] <Gallomimia> k
[02:12] <Dylan____> I just installed just these drivers
[02:12] <Dylan____> On windows 10
[02:12] <Dylan____> I dont have the iso for windows 10 but i can get it off microsofts website
[02:12] <Gallomimia> as long as it's stuff you can redownload, no worries
[02:12] <beepie> Dylan____, must be "EE" code for GPT, (cfdisk) -- you can use any dosmbr tool, create one partition to fill the entire drive and set the "partition ID" code to be "EE" -- EE means "GPT"
[02:12] <Dylan____> So windows 10 will be wiped?
[02:12] <Gallomimia> you have the burned DVD soit will be fine
[02:13] <Dylan____> Nnonono listem
[02:13] <Gallomimia> no. but if you mess up it might be
[02:13] <BinaryDinner> what are packages?
[02:13] <Dylan____> Let me walk you what i did with the isos
[02:13] <Gallomimia> !package
[02:13] <beepie> Dylan____, with tools like cfdisk or fdisk, only the dosmbr table should be touched
[02:13] <Dylan____> First i installed windows 10 then i went to my other laptop and erased the windows 10 bootable iso
[02:13] <beepie> Dylan____, as i said just in case you should backup any user data prior
[02:13] <Dylan____> Then i rewrited ubuntu on it
[02:13] <Gallomimia> BinaryDinner: it's like software, but with all the manuals, install scripts, and setup files you need to get it going easy
[02:14] <Dylan____> Im gonna get windows 32bit iso and save it on my flash drives brb
[02:14] <beepie> Dylan____, are you talking about a usb drive?
[02:14] <Gallomimia> oh a dvd-rw
[02:14] <Dylan____> Talking about. A single dvd
[02:14] <Dylan____> I used
[02:14] <BinaryDinner> Gallomimia: is it possible for a package to be any file? for example just a text file that contains "Hello." string
[02:14] <Gallomimia> how many flash drives you got?
[02:14] <Dylan____> I used a dvd to write windows then when it finshed i erased it
[02:14] <Dylan____> I got heaps
[02:15] <Gallomimia> BinaryDinner: i don't think so. packages come from servers on the internet. most of them are packaged up by the ubuntu people
[02:15] <Dylan____> Im just using one right now to download windows 10 32bkt
[02:15] <beepie> Dylan____, you cant install onto the same installer medium.  So if you're trying to install Ubuntu on a usb where that usb is already running the installer then that won't work
[02:15] <Dylan____> Sigh
[02:15] <Gallomimia> Dylan____: definitely learn to use flash drives for the same thing. not important now
[02:15] <Dylan____> Did i not tell you that i had burned a windows iso to the dvd and erased it?
[02:15] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: No, a package is a tarball containing a copy of the file system that gets extracted upon installation
[02:16] <Dylan____> And also did i tell you that one i erased it i installed ubuntu on it using imgburn
[02:16] <beepie> Dylan____, you were telling me you see no space used when it should be full
[02:16] <Gallomimia> no, i usually assume burned disks can't be erased
[02:16] <beepie> Dylan____, but you never told me which disk you were looking at
[02:16] <Dylan____> Alright listen
[02:16] <BinaryDinner> LambdaComplex: so this file system have to have minimum one executable or library?
[02:16] <beepie> Dylan____, i gave you a fix, why not try it?
[02:16] <Dylan____> I put my cd in that has ubuntu on it i boot it up says no osfound go to partiton manager whats there Oh 2500mbs???
[02:16] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[02:16] <beepie> Dylan____, (you can even try to use the gparted live iso)
[02:17] <Dylan____> I dont know what you guys are telling me
[02:17] <Dylan____> Maybe walk me through the steps?
[02:17] <Umeaboy> If I have an issue with the mouse pointer in 15.10, what package do I make a bugreport for?
[02:17] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: Well, it's not gonna have just one file at the root level. .deb packages, if i recall correctly, have a data tarball and...something else that I can't remember the name of
[02:17] <LambdaComplex> Heck, gimme a sec
[02:17] <squinty> BinaryDinner,  in terminal type   ls /var/cache/apt/archives/    that will display a listing of all packages (*.deb files) currently located on your system.  additionally you can add others by using the techniques that Gallaomimia posted previously
[02:17] <Umeaboy> It disappears after some time.
[02:17] <Umeaboy> No special settings.
[02:18] <Umeaboy> I have a Asus N550JK laptop.
[02:18] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: data.tar.gz and control.tar.gz
[02:18] <Gallomimia> Dylan____: alright. the first thing you need to do is what beepie said about the GPT and MBR conflict. you can't do that while it's booted from the HD
[02:18] <Umeaboy> It uses hybrid graphics.
[02:18] <Umeaboy> Optimus.
[02:18] <Umeaboy> No other problem besides that.
[02:18] <Dylan____> So what os do you want me to boot into windows or ubuntu
[02:18] <Gallomimia> well, can't be windows
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: did you try to create another user and test there?
[02:18] <Gallomimia> cause it needs to modify the disk windows runs from
[02:18] <Dylan____> Problem is if i use ubuntu i have no network cause i need to install ubuntu perm and install dkms and the b43
[02:18] <Umeaboy> lotuspsychje: Nope.
[02:19] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: And the data.tar.gz contains a folder called . which contains a copy of the filesystem. So, in the case of the package I'm looking at, it has folders for usr, sbin, etc, and var
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> Umeaboy: try first before bug please
[02:19] <Umeaboy> Right.
[02:19] <Gallomimia> so your choices are the installer, which seems to be having trouble, or a LiveUSB key with either ubuntu or gparted on it
[02:19] <beepie> Gallomimia, Dylan____ dosmbr and gpt can co-exists, of course MBR would be having nothing but a special
[02:19] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: And the contents of _those_ folders get extracted to the action /usr/, /sbin/, /etc/, and /var/ upon installation
[02:19] <Dylan____> I can get gparted on a usb
[02:19] <beepie> Gallomimia, Dylan____  ""  MBR entry called an "EE" GPT entry"  ""
[02:19] <Dylan____> Is there a link?
[02:19] <Gallomimia> yeah
[02:19] <beepie> Gallomimia, Dylan____ ^^
[02:19] <LambdaComplex> s/action/actual/
[02:19] <Gallomimia> beepie: you're over my head by a long shot. let's just agree that it's a problem and it needs resolving
[02:19] <LambdaComplex> (typing is hard)
[02:20] <beepie> Dylan____, by forcing an EE entry in MBR might force the UBuntu installer to look at the GPT table
[02:20] <Umeaboy> Checking the other account then.....
[02:20] <beepie> Dylan____, maybe the Ubuntu installer needs to see that
[02:20] <BinaryDinner> LambdaComplex: what if some user will have different name for one of the folders for example /usr will be /usr_ ?
[02:20] <Dylan____> Im downloading the gparted live
[02:20] <Gallomimia> so, Dylan____ get USB key. use software to flash an ISO onto it so it's bootable. either ubuntu installer or gparted
[02:20] <Dylan____> Ill get a spare usb and download unetbootin
[02:21] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: Then...they're very dumb
[02:21] <Gallomimia> if you plug in 2 usb's and install ubuntu on the 2nd, you can install things like network drivers and so on
[02:21] <BinaryDinner> LambdaComplex: but, for science, what would happen?
[02:21] <Dylan____> Ok
[02:21] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: I suppose the package manager would just create /usr/ anyways
[02:22] <Dylan____> Im gonan grab another usb and get unetbootin downloading gparted takes about 8mins
[02:22] <beepie> Dylan____, how many usb sticks you've got?
[02:22] <Gallomimia> suggestion: label the USB keys. it's impossible to tell which is which after you forget
[02:22] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: But there's a standard for this stuff. Check `man hier`
[02:22] <beepie> Dylan____, set one up for gparted live iso, and see what it's tools tell
[02:22] <Dylan____> Ok
[02:23] <Dylan____> Im curiouis will i lose windows 10?
[02:23] <Gallomimia> the goal is not.
[02:23] <Gallomimia> but the risk exists.
[02:23] <Dylan____> Ok
[02:23] <l4m8d4> Dylan____: If you do everything right you wont :D
[02:23] <BinaryDinner> LambdaComplex: so, does particular program in a package works because other things are "in place" and according to standards?
[02:23] <Dylan____> Ok
[02:24] <Dylan____> So the plan is that i make a usb of gparted and boot into that usb?
[02:24] <l4m8d4> BTW: Ubuntu live disks nearly always have gparted preinstalled.
[02:24] <l4m8d4> so you might be better off just trying 15.10 iso
[02:25] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: Pretty much! Like, by default, most binaries (executables) are gonna be in either /bin or /usr/bin, depending on which distro. And by default, shell paths look for executables in those places
[02:25] <Dylan____> My dvd-rw has ubuntu on it right now
[02:25] <Dylan____> Only dvd im got
[02:25] <l4m8d4> because if your issue is resolved in the new installer, you don't even ahve to mess with gparted-live
[02:25] <squinty> it should have gparted on it
[02:25] <Dylan____> Before had windows 10 nvm im gonna try this gparted usb
[02:26] <l4m8d4> I mean, what I'm saying is basically like, get rid of 14.04, it's nearly 1.5 years old
[02:26] <Dylan____> Once im got a gparted usb what do i do?
[02:26] <l4m8d4> *over ;D
[02:26] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: And things look for stuff in specific places. Like, bash looks in /etc/profile. So if you renamed /etc/, then bash wouldn't be able to find it
[02:27] <Dylan____> My goals not to lose this windows 10 iso otherwise im screwed
[02:27] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: (specifically, bash sources /etc/profile when it's invoked as an interactive login shell)
[02:27] <squinty> copy the windows 10 to a usb
[02:27] <Dylan____> How can i copy windows 10 to a usb
[02:27] <Dylan____> When its already installed
[02:27] <squinty> you said iso
[02:27] <Dylan____> On my system and the dvd i used for it was erased
[02:28] <nny> ok. so i am a little lost. i am trying to install a usb wireless adapter but there are no drivers for linux. everything i have found online shows that i need the driver for windows xp and use ndiswrapper to install the drivers. i cant find any driver for xp for my adapter. Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0846:9011 NetGear, Inc. WNDA3100v2 802.11abgn [Broadcom BCM4323]
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | nny
[02:28] <BinaryDinner> LambdaComplex: is it tracked, what packages were installed with particular one, for example, A.deb needed C.deb and D.deb but not B.deb because it was already installed
[02:29] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: Yeah, pretty much all package managers are gonna automatically handle dependencies. So if you try to install A, and A requires B, it'll install B if it isn't already installed
[02:29] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: The only package manager I know of that doesn't do that is Slackware's
[02:29] <Dylan____> Right so this is what im gonna do im going to put this Dvd written to ubuntu put im gonna make a bootable windows usb too
[02:30] <squinty> Dylan____,  you can always use a ubuntu live cd to download the iso again
[02:30] <Gallomimia> Dylan____: i guess that iso was on the mac install?
[02:30] <Dylan____> That iso was on a perm install of ubuntu
[02:30] <Dylan____> Its totally gone now
[02:30] <Gallomimia> save stuff.
[02:30] <Dylan____> Anyways the gparted iso is downlaoded
[02:31] <Dylan____> Ill burn it to a usb
[02:31] <Gallomimia> well, if you were running mac or linux we'd just tell you to use dd in the commandline
[02:31] <BinaryDinner> LambdaComplex: but what to do if I want do remove A.deb and packages that it depended on but were missing when A.deb was being installed?
[02:31] <Gallomimia> but windows has a separate procedure. need a piece of software
[02:31] <Gallomimia> !liveusb
[02:33] <Gallomimia> Dylan____: oh. unetbootin is one such option for the software.
[02:33] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: I.e. you installed A, which caused B and C to be installed, and you want to remove A without knowing B and C are named?
[02:34] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: That is, you wanna remove A, B, and C, just knowing that B and C are dependencies of A
[02:34] <Dylan____> Im made the the iso
[02:34] <Gallomimia> try it!
[02:34] <Dylan____> Ok
[02:34] <beepie> Dylan____, don't use the word "burn" for transferring iso to usb, it confuses people
[02:34] <beepie> Dylan____, burn is only for optical media
[02:35] <Gallomimia> yeah.... burning chips means erasing them
[02:35] <beepie> Dylan____, you can say that you're 'dd'ing, or "dumping" the iso to usb
[02:35] <Dylan____> Ok
[02:35] <BinaryDinner> LambdaComplex: installing A.deb, it needs B.deb, C.deb, D.deb; C.deb and D.deb is missing so it is also being installed. How to later remove A.deb, C.deb and D.deb?
[02:35] <Gallomimia> afk cause im shaving
[02:36] <BinaryDinner> LambdaComplex: other than manually
[02:36] <Dylan____> So now that i have dumped the iso to the usb do i reboot and boot into gparted live usb?
[02:36] <beepie> Dylan____,
[02:36] <Gallomimia> yep
[02:36] <beepie> Dylan____, yep
[02:36] <Dylan____> Ok
[02:36] <Dylan____> Was trying to download a windows 10 iso incase it goes wrong
[02:36] <Gallomimia> and now i'd like to point out that you seem to have a problem with confidence; evidently you're smarter than you think.
[02:36] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: That's gonna depend on which package manager you're using. I honestly don't know how to do that with apt (which is what Ubuntu uses)
[02:37] <Dylan____> Ok got gparted which setting i use
[02:37] <Dylan____> Default?
[02:37] <Dylan____> With kms?
[02:37] <BinaryDinner> LambdaComplex, Gallomimia, squinty: thank you for help :)
[02:37] <Gallomimia> welcome, can i have your other dinner? ;)
[02:38] <Gallomimia> what in the world is a kms
[02:38] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: I think for pacman (Arch's package manager), that'd be something like pacman -Rs, which removes the specified packages and all of their dependences, unless those dependencies are either required by other packages or were manuall installed by the user
[02:38] <Dylan____> Gallomimia im booted into gparted live from the usb
[02:38] <LambdaComplex> BinaryDinner: I'm willing to bet apt has an identical function, I just don't know it :P
[02:38] <Dylan____> Which setting do ipress
[02:38] <Gallomimia> Dylan____: no need for kms
[02:38] <Gallomimia> default should do
[02:38] <Gallomimia> i think that's for crypto
[02:38] <Dylan____> Ok did thst
[02:39] <Dylan____> And it says something about configuring console-data
[02:39] <xangua> LambdaComplex: autoremove?
[02:39] <Gallomimia> hm. its for windows activation keys
[02:39] <Gallomimia> anyway. it should eventually tell you all about your disk
[02:39] <LambdaComplex> xangua: No idea! I'm on Arch right now and don't feel like mounting and chrooting into my Debian install to check :P
[02:40] <LambdaComplex> xangua: So, your guess is probably much better than mine
[02:40] <Gallomimia> LambdaComplex: script it ;)
[02:40] <Dylan____> Well it says select key map from arch list dont touch kempa keep kernel kepmap select keymap from full list
[02:40] <LambdaComplex> Gallomimia: I.e. `mount /dev/sda2 /mnt && arch-chroot /mnt /bin/zsh`?
[02:40] <Gallomimia> US normal
[02:40] <Dylan____> Select keymap from arch lirt?
[02:41] <Gallomimia> LambdaComplex: i guess that's pretty fast. alias then
[02:41] <Dylan____> :/
[02:41] <squinty> Dylan____,  if you are happy with using usa keyboard just accept the default  (33???)
[02:41] <Gallomimia> keymap. i think that means what keyboard are you using
[02:42] <Dylan____> Which mode?
[02:42] <Gallomimia> default?
[02:42] <Dylan____> 012
[02:42] <Gallomimia> squinty thinks its 33 but press ok and see what happens
[02:42] <Dylan____> I typed 0 contuniue to start x to use gparted automatically
[02:43] <squinty> yeo
[02:43] <squinty> yep
[02:43] <Dylan____> Ok im in some debian desktop enviroment
[02:43] <Dylan____> Tells me unallocated space 232.89 which is my windows 10
[02:43] <squinty> its either lxde or xfce
[02:43] <Gallomimia> yup....
[02:43] <Dylan____> Its on dev/sda
[02:44] <Gallomimia> time to do that MBR wrapper thing whatever beepie was saying
[02:44] <Dylan____> Hmm
[02:44] <Dylan____> Ok
[02:44] <Dylan____> How can i accomplish that
[02:44] <beepie> Dylan____, can try that cfdisk /dev/[disk]
[02:44] <Dylan____> Is that in terminal?
[02:44] <beepie> Dylan____, y
[02:44] <Gallomimia> beepie: he's in gui gparted right now
[02:45] <Dylan____> Yea
[02:45] <Gallomimia> is there an actual terminal to use?
[02:45] <Dylan____> Yes
[02:45] <squinty> should be
[02:45] <Gallomimia> kk good
[02:45] <beepie> Dylan____, btw what does gparted in hte gui say?
[02:45] <Dylan____> User@:3?8-!
[02:45] <Dylan____> Oops
[02:45] <beepie> Dylan____, device-information option should show partitions and say "GPT" somewhere
[02:45] <Dylan____> Just says unallocated space
[02:46] <Dylan____> Want me to run that command in terminal
[02:47] <Dylan____> Ok
[02:47] <Dylan____> Im ran check disk
[02:47] <Dylan____> Says /dev/sda1 dev sda 2 and free space
[02:47] <Dylan____> So theres the hard drive plugged in and one of the live usbs
[02:47] <beepie> Dylan____, click view/device-information
[02:47] <Gallomimia> that's right
[02:47] <Gallomimia> sda1 is the rescue disk
[02:47] <trixtator> Good evening! Anyone here having experience with i3?
[02:48] <Gallomimia> sda2 is the windows system disk
[02:48] <Dylan____> Wheres view
[02:48] <beepie> Dylan____, on the gparted gui
[02:48] <Dylan____> Is in it gparted gui
[02:48] <Dylan____> Oh ok
[02:48] <Dylan____> Ok got it
[02:48] <Dylan____> Partition table gpt
[02:48] <beepie> Dylan____, is that for /dev/sda?
[02:48] <Dylan____> Yea
[02:49] <beepie> Dylan____, how big is /dev/sda ?
[02:49] <Dylan____> 232.89
[02:49] <beepie> Dylan____, and how big is /dev/sda1 ?
[02:49] <Gallomimia> Dylan____: by the way. /dev/sda is the disk. /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 are the partitions
[02:49] <Dylan____> In the gui only shows dev sda
[02:49] <Dylan____> And my usb
[02:49] <Dylan____> If i go to the terminal
[02:50] <beepie> "<Dylan____> Says /dev/sda1 dev sda 2 and free spac"
[02:50] <beepie> Dylan____, what is /dev/sda1 ?
[02:50] <beepie> Dylan____, there's no /dev/sda1 in gparted gui?
[02:50] <lotuspsychje> trixtator: the #i3 guys perhaps?
[02:50] <Dylan____> No dev sda is my hard drive and sda sdc is my usb
[02:50] <beepie> Dylan____, ok so you're not using an "internal" drive ?
[02:51] <Dylan____> No?
[02:51] <Gallomimia> sda is the internal drive
[02:51] <Dylan____> Just the hdd
[02:51] <Gallomimia> the only drive
[02:51] <Dylan____> Which is in the computer
[02:51] <Dylan____> And my usb
[02:51] <trixtator> lotuspsychje, I will give it a try.  Thx!
[02:51] <beepie> Dylan____, um
[02:52] <beepie> Dylan____, doesn't make sense
[02:52] <Dylan____> If i go to terminal the sda2 is 232.9 or start is 1026048 and end is 488394751
[02:52] <Dylan____> Ok on the gui it only shows dev/sda
[02:52] <beepie> Dylan____, ok so what tool is showing sda1 or sda2 ?
[02:52] <squinty> Dylan____,  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/display-doc.php?name=help-manual
[02:52] <Dylan____> And on the command line it shows dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2
[02:52] <Dylan____> Sda1 is ntfs
[02:52]  * squinty say bye for now and goes for supper.  :-)
[02:53] <Dylan____> And sda2 is ntfs
[02:53] <beepie> Dylan____, which command?
[02:53] <Dylan____> No command
[02:53] <Dylan____> Just see it on the partitons
[02:53] <Dylan____> So what do i do
[02:54] <Dylan____> Cause i want these oses to be dualbooted
[02:54] <beepie> Dylan____, fdisk -l
[02:54] <beepie> Dylan____, does it say "dos" or "gpt" ?
[02:54] <Dylan____> Type that in the command line?
[02:54] <beepie> Dylan____, (from that fdisk command)
[02:55] <beepie> Dylan____, and for "/dev/sda"
[02:55] <Dylan____> Cannot open /dev/sda dev sdc and dev loop0
[02:55] <dotpixis> Dylan____: try chmod
[02:55] <Dylan____> I used the sudo
[02:56] <dotpixis> Dylan____: but the folders still have their permissions
[02:56] <Dylan____> The type is hpfs/ntfs/exfat
[02:56] <Dylan____> Disklabsl is dos
[02:57] <Dylan____> But in the gui it says Gpt
[02:57] <nny> so i tryd the b43 wifi driver and it killed my other wifi card becuase it also uses the b43 drivers. i am trying to setup 2 wifi cards 1 is usb.
[02:57] <Dylan____> For dev/sfa
[02:57] <dotpixis> !question | nny
[02:58] <Dylan____> Sda1 is my system reserved and sda2 is what windows is on
[02:58] <Dylan____> I think
[02:58] <Dylan____> Dunno why dev/sda is in the gui
[02:58] <Dylan____> So what do i do?
[02:59] <Dylan____> Sigh
[02:59] <Dylan____> May as well give up
[02:59] <beepie> Dylan____, you're typing too much. I'm lost and can't help you.
[03:00] <beepie> Dylan____, unless you just make it easier for me to read.
[03:00] <dotpixis> Dylan____: try the folks in ##linux
[03:00] <Dylan____> Ok
[03:00] <beepie> Dylan____, so the output of fdisk -l /dev/sda , is ?
[03:00] <beepie> Dylan____, "dos" for /dev/sda ?
[03:00]  * beepie says he's not screening on his irc every second, sometimes he's checking his phone or email and comes back later to it
[03:00] <Dylan____> For dev/sda is dos
[03:01] <beepie> Dylan____, what mac hardware are you using?
[03:01] <Dylan____> What do u mean?
[03:01] <beepie> Dylan____, exactly that
[03:01] <beepie> Dylan____, simple question
[03:01] <Dylan____> X64?? Or 32bit
[03:02] <beepie> Dylan____, didn't you say you're using a mac? I don't care that you don't have "OsX"
[03:02] <beepie> Dylan____, "OsX" is the Mac operating system.
[03:02] <Dylan____> I am using a mac
[03:02] <beepie> Dylan____, I'm asking for the "mac model"
[03:02] <Dylan____> Oh ok
[03:02] <Dylan____> Is that on the bottom
[03:02] <Dylan____> ??
[03:02] <beepie> Dylan____, you serious?
[03:02] <Dylan____> Dude
[03:02] <Dylan____> If your gonna test me seriously
[03:02] <Dylan____> Its a mbp 2010
[03:03] <beepie> Dylan____, odd that it's using dosmbr, unless you're possibly using something like refit or maybe refind
[03:03] <Dylan____> No im not using refind or anything
[03:03] <Dylan____> Just the normal when u want to boot into a usb hold option
[03:04] <Dylan____> I do that
[03:04] <Dylan____> No refind ipor anything
[03:04] <beepie> Dylan____, that never happened to me on the 2012+ models i've tried..
[03:04] <Dylan____> Ok?
[03:05] <beepie> Dylan____, supposedly win10 has something built into it abling itself to do this
[03:05] <Dylan____> Oh!
[03:05] <Dylan____> Turn fastboot off
[03:05] <Dylan____> And something else??
[03:05] <Dylan____> Isnt it
[03:05] <beepie> Dylan____, not sure what it's using then
[03:06] <Dylan____> Im seen people trying to dualboot and they need to turn these options off in the power
[03:06] <beepie> Dylan____, you could always reinstall it from scratch, but instead "wipe" out the drive entirely using "gdisk", to wipe out both MBR and GPT tables, --- then create a GPT table -- create 3 or 4 partitions with gparted gui
[03:06] <Dylan____> Ok
[03:06] <beepie> Dylan____, because i don't know exactly what windows 10 is using here
[03:06] <Dylan____> Reinstall windows 10
[03:06] <Dylan____> Or ubuntu
[03:07] <beepie> Dylan____, it's outside my understanding what it's doing, .. my suggestion
[03:07] <Dylan____> Cause ill need to get windows 10 iso
[03:07] <beepie> Dylan____, see what refind can facilitate for this
[03:07] <Dylan____> Ok
[03:07] <Dylan____> So ill download refind for windows?
[03:08] <beepie> Dylan____, but something i would do is wipe out and start from scratch-- but ensuring i create strictly GPT or DOSMBR table (depending on which would be better to work with refind)
[03:08] <Dylan____> Ok
[03:08] <beepie> Dylan____, so pre-create the table and don't let Windows 10 do it
[03:08] <Dylan____> Can you help me with that?
[03:08] <Dylan____> Im gonna grab a windows 10 iso first
[03:08] <Gallomimia> Dylan____: what time is it where you are?
[03:08] <Dylan____> Ill download the 32bit way faster
[03:09] <Dylan____> 2:08pm aEdt
[03:09] <beepie> Dylan____, so when you boot Win10 it says "GPT" ?
[03:09] <beepie> Dylan____, that would be even more weird..
[03:09] <Dylan____> Im logging in
[03:09] <Gallomimia> oh ok. it's kinda late here. iwas going to suggest writing some things down and trying again tomorrow
[03:09] <beepie> Dylan____, want to pm me?
[03:09] <Dylan____> Ok
[03:09] <Dylan____> Ill pm
[03:09] <beepie> Dylan____, sounds like i can learn and note something for my own machines here tehehe
[03:10] <homa_> hi my friends
[03:11] <eraser> Dylan____, are you installing windows 10 alongside ubuntu?
[03:11] <eraser> sorry if i'm coming in late
[03:13] <Dylan____> Yes
[03:14] <Dylan____> Eraser why
[03:15] <eraser> because it's a horrible pain in the ass
[03:15] <eraser> windows 10 fucks up the grub boot
[03:15] <Dylan____> Well idk what to do
[03:15] <nedstark> you can run grub rescue after
[03:15] <eraser> and you have to have a usb boot to fix the grub boot
[03:15] <eraser> yes
[03:15] <eraser> nedstark
[03:16] <Dylan____> I need windows 10 and ubuntu for school
[03:16] <Dylan____> And i go back on monday
[03:16] <eraser> nedstark, have you done so succesfully?
[03:16] <eraser> i keep hearing horror stories
[03:16] <eraser> even with grubrescue
[03:16] <nedstark> yes, but not recently
[03:18] <nedstark> this is the easiest way https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:18] <nedstark> or just install ubuntu AFTER windows 10
[03:18] <eraser> yeah
[03:18] <eraser> that's what i did on my other box
[03:19] <eraser> seemed to be the safest way
[03:19] <eraser> i missed a step somehow though because i couldn't get it to recover my files from the default backup app
[03:19] <eraser> can't remember the damn name
[03:19] <eraser> so i had to manually restore my files
[03:20] <nedstark> i just back them up manually
[03:20] <eraser> do you use the standard backup app
[03:20] <eraser> or another one
[03:20] <eraser> or just back them up on another disk
[03:20] <eraser> is what you meant??
[03:20] <nedstark> i don't have much on here, and just copy it manually when i do
[03:20] <Gallomimia> hey just a warning, they aren't very tolerant of cursing in here :/
[03:21] <nedstark> a usb drive
[03:21] <eraser> ???
[03:21] <eraser> Gallomimia, did we/i?
[03:21] <Gallomimia> yes
[03:21] <eraser> not sure where
[03:21] <Gallomimia> but i won't tell if you don't.
[03:21] <eraser> but whatever
[03:22] <Gallomimia> anyway, what Dylan____ is doing is installing ubuntu on a macbook that has windows installed on it. there's no macos
[03:23] <Gallomimia> and... it's not working. something wrong with partition tables and ubuntu installer says the whole drive is empty no other OS detected ready to delete everything?
[03:24] <Dylan____> Yeah im getting a copy on windows 10 on a iso
[03:24] <Dylan____> Should be done in about 30 mins or so
[03:25] <Dylan____> Then once its done just tell me which os to install first
[03:25] <Dylan____> Cause i need these for school
[03:26] <nedstark> there are special instructions for a macbook https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir6-2/Trusty
[03:26] <nedstark> that's an example, its specific to the model
[03:27] <nedstark> if you can only get windows installed, then maybe just run ubuntu inside virtualbox
[03:28] <beepie> nedstark, if you read above, "gparted" sees nothing on the drive, but "dosmbr" has entries. it's messed up, he's restaring over from scratching after he'll be zeroing out the drive
[03:28] <beepie> nedstark, so it'll be awhile before he tries to install ubuntu..
[03:29] <beepie> nedstark, ubuntu isn't the problem here afaict
[03:29] <nedstark> then i'd install windows 10 and virtualbox, then ubuntu within virtualbox.  this is a special case.  macs are a pain.
[03:29] <beepie> macs aren't a pain.. here i can setup linux on multiple of them..
[03:29] <nedstark> look at that url, its not a normal install
[03:30] <beepie> but he's also using a 2010 model.. problem i see is it looks like it is bios-booting which doesn't make sense because he's not even using refind/refit (as he told me)
[03:32] <nedstark> somebody made a video for installing 14.04 on the 2010 macbook air
[03:32] <nedstark> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKYcnNbdd6o
[03:35] <homa_> what is command for temperature cpu and gpu
[03:36] <homa_> what is command for temperature cpu and gpu
[03:36] <Gallomimia> !sensors | homa_
[03:37] <homa_> for graphic card
[03:38] <homa_> ubottu, for graphic card?
[03:38] <homa_> Gallomimia,
[03:39] <homa_> http://paste.linuxmint.com/view/gof7 , where is graphic card temperature ? Gallomimia
[03:40] <lkthomas> folks, what's the option for UI tools to control docker on Ubuntu ?
[03:41] <Gallomimia> homa_: thefirst one. 56c
[03:42] <Gallomimia> homa_: see how it says its a radeon on pci?
[03:42] <homa_> thank you Gallomimia
[03:42] <homa_> sensors is separate of module
[03:42] <homa_> sensors is separate of module ? Gallomimia
[03:43] <Gallomimia> huh?
[03:50] <christarazi> Anyone here with a radeon 6850 card?
[03:55] <beepie> christarazi, likely not
[03:56] <beepie> christarazi, but certainly someone else has an amd card who may be using the same amd driver
[03:57] <christarazi> reason I ask is because everytime I resume from suspend, the system freezes completely and I have to reboot
[03:57] <christarazi> I'm wondering if that's an issue with my card or other people are experiencing this too with the open source driver
[03:58] <christarazi> And I'm on 14.04.3 with the latest stable kernel for that release, nothing fancy
[04:16] <ultragas> Helo
[04:16] <FelixFire619> hi
[04:17] <homa_>  good bye
[04:18] <ultragas> It's cold tonight
[04:18] <FelixFire619> that it is
[04:18] <FelixFire619> and i live in SoCal
[04:18] <ultragas> Yes?
[04:19] <ultragas> I live in south italy
[04:20] <FelixFire619> lucky
[04:20] <ultragas> No to much
[04:21] <FelixFire619> i'd love to visit my home land
[04:21] <somsip> !ot
[04:21] <ultragas> Where is?
[04:21] <somsip> so can the social chat go to private please
[04:21] <FelixFire619> LOVE IT, no ones talking, so someone has to bitch
[04:22] <somsip> FelixFire619: It's a support channel. Take the private chat to private. That's all
[04:22] <somsip> !ignore FelixFire619
[04:22] <FelixFire619> sure somsip i'll just tell humanity not to be socialable in a channel with NO activity at the time.
[04:22] <Dylan____> Hey guys
[04:22] <FelixFire619> Hello Dylan____
[04:22] <ultragas> Hy
[04:23] <Dylan____> Does anyone know how i can dualboot Windows and ubuntu on A macbook?
[04:23] <Dylan____> And that i have no os x
[04:23] <FelixFire619> (P.S. i will remain socialable in this chan when its inactive, dont like it /ban works perfectly, im also sure there is a chanserv /ban command but i dont ban
[04:23] <somsip> !mac | Dylan____ (not sure if this has anything helpful)
[04:23] <FelixFire619> Dylan____, im not even sure how to boot windows on MAC
[04:24] <Dylan____> Well i did it
[04:24] <Dylan____> No bootcamp etc
[04:24] <ultragas> Yes you can
[04:24] <ultragas> I am not sure
[04:24] <Dylan____> I need to dualboot this for school
[04:24] <FelixFire619> but what i would say install win on 1 partition, then install ubuntu and let its do it thing
[04:24] <Dylan____> Well peoblem there is
[04:24] <Dylan____> That when i do that i get no os found
[04:24] <FelixFire619> it will (should) auto detect the win partion and grub set it up
[04:24] <ultragas> No just one mybe
[04:24] <Dylan____> My hdd is only 250
[04:24] <Dylan____> Thats the only hdd i have in it
[04:25] <Dylan____> Plus when i tried that it didnt work
[04:25] <FelixFire619> ok Dylan____ then erase your partition
[04:25] <FelixFire619> give windows 200gb
[04:25] <Dylan____> It said no os found
[04:25] <FelixFire619> give linux 50gb
[04:25] <Dylan____> Someone tried to help me before i didnt really understand
[04:25] <Dylan____> So if someone is willing to walk me through each step
[04:26] <Dylan____> Cause im dualbooted but it went wrong on my hp ended up screwing up the win8.1 recovery and i couldnt recover it etc
[04:26] <Dylan____> So yeah i just need win10 and ubuntu dualbooted on thus mac
[04:26] <FelixFire619> Dylan____, i private messaged you
[04:26] <FelixFire619> i CAN help you if you reply and want it
[04:27] <rww> I note that #ubuntu recommends against asking support questions in PM, to make sure that you're not getting bad advice, and so that others can chime in.
[04:27] <rww> do with that knowledge what you will
[04:28] <svetlana> I would be interested to read that conversation also for my reference.
[04:28] <artois> rww: murder?
[04:28] <artois> which conversation?
[04:28] <svetlana> The one Dylan____ and FelixFire619 are having.
[04:29] <artois> 'bout what?
[04:29] <svetlana> Uh, see irclogs.ubuntu.com instead of asking me to go over it again.
[04:29] <xangua> Isn't
[04:29] <svetlana> It's a dual boot discussion.
[04:30] <FelixFire619> i am one one, guiding Dylan____ on how to achive what he wants based on my experiance.
[04:30] <FelixFire619> add for the win says, easier 1 on 1
[04:31] <artois> ...
[04:31] <FelixFire619> once im done with him it will A. work or B. beclose and he'll have more knowlge to ask about
[04:31] <xangua> FelixFire619: please stop asking users to pm
[04:32] <FelixFire619> xangua, i asked one, got a problem with me offering help /ban works!
[04:34] <artois> FelixFire619: he'd have to be an op first
[04:34] <rww> can we cut the "/ban works" stuff, it's kinda grating
[04:34] <FelixFire619> artois, my point
[04:34] <artois> FelixFire619: but you said it works!
[04:35] <FelixFire619> he's a USER not a ADMIN, dont tell me how to help someone when im willing
[04:35] <artois> well he said please :p
[04:35] <FelixFire619> well he didnt say shit till i offered private help
[04:35] <rww> watch the language, please
[04:35] <artois> FelixFire619: don't worry about it
[04:35] <FelixFire619> That i wll do, sorry
[04:36] <dcunit3d> is there any way to get ubuntu to *stick* the nvidia display settings?  like when i plugin my monitor, i want the same settings applied to a particular hardware device.
[04:36] <dcunit3d> and in general, i always want my desktop to be positioned in the same place: above my laptop desktop.
[04:36] <dcunit3d> i've tried saving the X11 config, but it doesn't work.
[04:37] <somsip> dcunit3d: are you using nvidia-settings?
[04:37] <dcunit3d> if i restart or suspend my laptop without disconnecting the monitor, it still doesn't remember where i want the desktop applied
[04:37] <dcunit3d> yes, i have to have nvidia display drivers because i want to use CUDA
[04:37] <somsip> dcunit3d: so laptop with external monitor plugged in occasionally?
[04:37] <Guest87116> I've installed AMD catalyst, and it works most of the time, but sometimes it mysteriously uninstalls itself
[04:38] <dcunit3d> yes, and also a tv that i occasionally connect
[04:38] <somsip> dcunit3d: k - I can't help then
[04:38] <Guest87116> or becomes invisible
[04:38] <Guest71304> Hello Gentlemen, i have a cloud server.. and installed ubuntu on this.. i this i installed CakePHP framework .. and tmp directory is 777 permission. But some time my tmp directory permission changed automatically frm 777 unable to write
[04:38] <dcunit3d> but that's not a big deal.  if i can just get nvidia-settings to automatically position the external monitor above my desktop everytime, regardless of the display that is connected
[04:39] <dcunit3d> woops, sorry, i disconnected my chat
[04:40] <Guest87116> sometimes AMD catalyst mysteriously uninstalls itself or becomes invisble. why?
[04:41] <ultragas> Sorry.... exist the channel deepweb on freenode?
[04:41] <ultragas> Mybe no
[04:41] <nareshnk> Hello Gentlemen, i have a cloud server.. and installed ubuntu on this.. i this i installed CakePHP framework .. and tmp directory is 777 permission. But some time my tmp directory permission changed automatically frm 777 unable to write
[04:42] <FelixFire619> nareshnk, does it only happen after a reboot or restart?
[04:42] <rww> ultragas: freenode isn't really for that sort of thing
[04:42] <dcunit3d> it really just sucks, everytime i connect/reconnect my laptop.  i have to readjust to the wrong display setup.  then, when i change it, it throws my windows to the wrong monitor.  so i have to drag those back to the right place.  and it's something that i deal with 2 to 3 times a day and it wastes like 3-5 minutes of my time every time and distracts me from what i'm doing.
[04:42] <nareshnk> FelixFire619, no it is happening some time.. but some time is working fine..
[04:42] <nareshnk> Dont know why it is happening..
[04:43] <nareshnk> Running applicaiton is facing this issue..but some time working fine.
[04:45] <Guest87116> "There was a problem initializing Catalyst Control Center Linux edition.  It could be caused by the following.
[04:45] <Guest87116> No AMD graphics driver is installed, or the AMD driver is not functioning properly.
[04:45] <Guest87116> Please install the AMD driver appropriate for you AMD hardware, or configure using aticonfig."
[04:45] <Guest87116> but it was just working, and i didn't change anything
[04:45] <cyl_> welcome to linux
[04:45] <cfoch> how do I install OIS?
[04:45] <cyl_> compile mpv
[04:46] <ultragas> Rww i asked ... thank
[04:46] <ultragas> Where can i visit?
[04:46] <ultragas> On irc
[04:47] <cyl_> #futa has good memes
[04:48] <Guest87116> "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected" but it was just working
[04:48] <Guest87116> and nothing has been installed or changed
[04:51] <ultragas> I have to go away.... it's nice to read you all ... bye
[04:57] <nareshnk> FelixFire619, hi is this should be solution :  nareshnk: use chgrp to change it to be owned by you:webserver-group (e.g. chown naresh:www-data -R tmp)
[04:57] <nareshnk> FelixFire619, some one provide me this on cakephp irc
[04:58] <FelixFire619> nareshnk, no need to include me, ;) on reboot would suggestion a on boot command changed the settings, but that might varywell be the solution
[05:01] <nareshnk> Sorry did not got your point
[05:01] <nareshnk> can you please explain ?
[05:02] <ark_> hello
[05:02] <ark_> im new ubuntu user
[05:04] <svetlana> hi ark_, welcome
[05:05] <ark_> hello svetlana
[05:05] <ark_> thanx
[05:06] <Dylan____> Guys someone tell felix ill be on soon gotta go get my hair cut
[05:06] <svetlana> ark_, no worries; is English your native language? if not, then you could join a second channel in addition to this one, which speaks your native language
[05:06] <Dylan____> And need to help setup windows dualboot with linux
[05:06] <Dylan____> On my mac
[05:07] <ark_> does anyone try to download pandoraFMS on ubentu?
[05:07] <ark_> svetlana my english is not that good ^_^
[05:08] <ark_> where should i go?
[05:09] <artois> ark_: what's pandorafms?
[05:09] <svetlana> ark_, what is your first language?
[05:11] <artois> ark_: try enabling the 'universe' repo
[05:11] <artois> http://askubuntu.com/questions/148638/how-do-i-enable-the-universe-repository
[05:12] <ark_> my first language is Arabic
[05:13] <ark_> pandoraFMS smilier to nagious it can control and monitor the network.
[05:18] <ark_> ok guys brb .. breakfast time
[05:26] <enegist> ok
[05:37] <surgy> join #forthenerds
[05:47] <CinnamonRickRoll> whats the best way to run windows programs?
[05:48] <chu> !WINE ! CinnamonRickRoll
[05:48] <daogiahieu> i am using wine :D
[05:48] <chu> !WINE | CinnamonRickRoll
[05:48] <CinnamonRickRoll> Thanks
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | CinnamonRickRoll
[05:50] <CinnamonRickRoll> Thanks, I'll check that out, since installing wine wants to remove an nvidia driver or smth
[05:50] <Volund> So guys
[05:51] <Volund> ... eh, never mind. I already know the answer.
[05:51] <CinnamonRickRoll> Hmm,both of these things want to uninstall an "nvidia opencl driver and icd loader" Is that likely to cause a problem?
[05:52] <CinnamonRickRoll> I'm using the nvidia driver btw, not nouveau
[05:53] <johnhenery> How can I start an application on an rdp connection?
[05:55] <johnhenery> I have my machine setup to allow connection via rdp, however, when connecting, it opens openbox with a blank grey background. I would like to open an application every time I make an rdp connection.
[05:58] <homa_>  hi my friends
[06:02] <timmmaaaayyy> anyone now if 15.10 broke openvpn?  i just installed it on a fresh 15.10 box, downloaded a config, and it isn't creating the tun0 interface.  might this be a network manger oddity?  maybe i need some new options in the client config?
[06:04] <timmmaaaayyy> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9289290fa7be45edf47f -- i don't really see anything useful there.  syslog only contains: Jan 28 00:54:21 pakkit01 systemd[1]: Stopped OpenVPN service. & Jan 28 00:54:21 pakkit01 systemd[1]: Starting OpenVPN service...
[06:08] <johnhenery> I have my machine setup to allow connection via rdp, however, when connecting, it opens openbox with a blank grey background. I would like to open an application every time I make an rdp connection.
[06:22] <bjrohan> Hello. I have an external USB HDD. I am trying to back up my home dir to it. When I first connect it, it will be mounted. partway through the copying, it disappears. When I plug it in, it doesn't get mounted, however I can see it with fdisk, how can I remount it
[06:25] <axion_> hello
[06:25] <jrocky> hi
[06:26] <axion_> hello?
[06:26] <LostSoul_> Hi
[06:26] <artois> ohio
[06:26] <LostSoul_> I've got noobiest question ever, but do I need postfix to send emails from a server?
[06:27] <axion_> my computer is broken
[06:27] <axion_> ello?
[06:28] <artois> LostSoul_: by server do you mean a "server computer"? (AKA: a computer)
[06:28] <artois> axion_: fix it
[06:28] <axion_> I just cleaned out my hp media center pc m7060n from dust and stuff, have it up and runninng ubuntu 14 but firefox crashes a lot and im a complete newb
[06:29] <LostSoul_> artois: Yes
[06:29] <artois> LostSoul_: you need an mta, it doesn't need to be postfix
[06:30] <artois> and it doesn't need to also be able to be an email server (like postfix)
[06:30] <artois> you might want an email server for a "server" computer, though
[06:30] <artois> depends
[06:30] <LostSoul_> I was just wondering if I need mta just to send mails or app like mail is enough
[06:30] <LostSoul_> Thanks as I'm new if it comes to mail sending on linux
[06:33] <Seveas> LostSoul_: you only need a local mta if the things sending mail cannot use a remote one.
[06:35] <artois> LostSoul_: mail will dep in an mta
[06:35] <johnhenery> I have my machine setup to allow connection via rdp, however, when connecting, it opens openbox with a blank grey background. I would like to open an application every time I make an rdp connection.
[06:35] <artois> what application?
[06:36] <LostSoul_> If I got error: host XXX refused to talk to me ... Delivery not authorized
[06:36] <artois> email is so archaic
[06:36] <johnhenery> Google Chrome.
[06:36] <LostSoul_> It means mta on the other side has cut me off?
[06:37] <johnhenery> Particularly in kiosk mode, but I believe I can figure that part out.
[06:38] <artois> johnhenery: see /etc/xrdp/startwm.sh
[06:40] <johnhenery> I have been trying to decipher the startwm.sh but I am not sure where to add the exec command.
[06:41] <joral> I recently installed ubuntu-mate on an hp laptop with an A8, I opted to install with encryption and seem to be experiencing the symptoms discussed in bug 1386005.  Unfortunately the bug is still open with no recent activity and no suggested solutions.  Would anyone know of any updated information to help me resolve this boot issue?
[06:42] <johnhenery> artois: If you could provide some insight or a tutorial for reference, I would appreciate it.
[06:44] <dcunit3d> is there anyway to reload mtrack touchpad drivers without restarting lightdm?
[06:47] <hateball> dcunit3d: no idea what mtrack is, but if it's a regular kernel module you can just reload it
[06:47] <artois> johnhenery: it's just a shell script AFAIK, you can tell it to run anything
[06:47] <christian_> Hi.
[06:47] <johnhenery> artois, so inserting the command on the bottom should not be an issue?
[06:48] <johnhenery> trying it now
[06:48] <PsychoX75> You know that funny moment that you realise that Ubuntu is so damn stable that when you get around to reinstall it, you have no idea anymore what you did the first time?   Well, it's not so funny -_-
[06:49] <PsychoX75> I have a raid 1 installed running on mdadm or something like that. But can't remember how to view the current array through command line.
[06:50] <dcunit3d> hateball cool, thanks.  it's an alternate multitouch trackpad driver
[06:51] <dcunit3d> PsychoX75: yeh that's why i've been documenting my isntall
[06:51] <hateball> dcunit3d: do you know the modules name? "lspci -k" will show you
[06:51] <dcunit3d> bc i hate having to use google to search for stuff i already did once
[06:51] <hateball> dcunit3d: then you should be able to get to a tty and "sudo modprobe -r $module && modprobe $module"
[06:54] <dcunit3d> hateball: i can't seem to find my trackpad device
[06:56] <johnhenery> artois: at the end of the script (before 'exit 1' I put "google-chrome --kiosk --no-first-run 'https://google.com'
[06:56] <hateball> oh, they left
[06:56] <johnhenery> but chrome is not opening when starting an rdp session
[06:57] <artois> johnhenery: try something simpler first, like 'touch /path/to/newfile'
[06:58] <johnhenery> makes sense. 2 seconds
[06:58] <johnhenery> should I prefix exec?
[06:58] <artois> not particularly
[06:59] <johnhenery> okay. trying now
[07:01] <ark_> hello
[07:01] <artois> ohio
[07:02] <ark_> where u from?
[07:02] <beepie> ark_, from the internet
[07:02] <beepie> ark_, you?
[07:02] <ark_> how can i upgrade my ubuntu?
[07:02] <ubUserFromSp84> Hello every one
[07:02] <ark_> planet earth
[07:02] <beepie> ark_, upgrade your ubuntu from where?
[07:03] <beepie> ark_, from the internet?
[07:03] <ark_> command line
[07:03] <beepie> ark_, what's that?
[07:03] <ark_> in centos we use yum update
[07:03] <beepie> ark_, i only know how to use the mouse
[07:03] <beepie> ark_, you mean #centos
[07:03] <ark_> lol XD
[07:03] <ubUserFromSp84> I'm new in this channel, I'm looking for some help
[07:03] <beepie> ark_, wrong channel buddy
[07:03] <ark_> yas
[07:03] <beepie> ubUserFromSp84, what's up
[07:03] <ark_> nope im new ubuntu user
[07:04] <ark_> im just asking how can i upgrade it
[07:04] <beepie> ubUserFromSp84, what's sp84?
[07:04] <ubUserFromSp84> Hi beepie. I'm using ubuntu 14.04 lts and i have problems with my sdcard
[07:04] <beepie> ubUserFromSp84, ok
[07:04] <beepie> ubUserFromSp84, what's wrong?
[07:04] <ark_> is ubuntu 14.04 is the lastest version ?
[07:05] <ubUserFromSp84> it works perfectly on windows, but in Ubuntu....
[07:05] <ubUserFromSp84> not so good
[07:05] <joral> ark, update/upgrade packages or the entire release version?
[07:05] <ark_> package
[07:05] <beepie> ubUserFromSp84, can you describe "not so good" into something that's comprehensible?
[07:05] <ubUserFromSp84> it mounts perfectly but when i'm working with it (reading o writing) the system automatically unmount the sdcard
[07:06] <ubUserFromSp84> and then it tries to mount it againg
[07:06] <ubUserFromSp84> *again
[07:06] <beepie> ubUserFromSp84, if you're using <4 kernel, try upgrading the kernel
[07:06] <joral> ark, 14.04 is the latest long term support version but not the latest released version
[07:06] <ubUserFromSp84> i'm using kernel 3
[07:07] <ubUserFromSp84> the original that comes with 14.04 lts
[07:07] <ark_> ubUser ..how can i update the packages
[07:07] <beepie> ark_, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+upgrade+ubuntu+from+the+command+line
[07:08] <joral> ark, 'apt-get update' will update the package database, then 'apt-get upgrade' to upgrade the packages on the system
[07:08] <ubUserFromSp84> i must say that my laptop is about 10 years old
[07:08] <ubUserFromSp84> D
[07:08] <ubUserFromSp84> xD
[07:09] <johnhenery> artois: it is not creating the test file when starting the rdp session.
[07:09] <Myrtti> beepie: don't do that :-( lmgtfy is not very nice
[07:09] <ark_> thanx guys you are the best
[07:09] <beepie> Myrtti, i think you're less helpful than I am.
[07:09] <beepie> Myrtti, lmgtfy.com is helpful.
[07:09] <ubUserFromSp84> i think it should be supported without troubles
[07:09] <joral> Myrtti, even when i'm pointed to it I always laugh at it.
[07:09] <johnhenery> If it helps, i am using xrdp which is started on boot, and I am actually opening the rdp client into openbox. So maybe I need to set openbox to open chrome?
[07:10] <Myrtti> !google| joral, beepie
[07:10] <ubUserFromSp84> any idea about what can i do with that?
[07:10] <beepie> Myrtti, i never said google-it kiddo.
[07:10] <beepie> Myrtti, I googled it for him. so why not try to be helpful around here?
[07:10] <Myrtti> sure.
[07:11] <can> merhabalar
[07:11] <ubUserFromSp84> ok......see you all another day and thanks for your help
[07:12] <joral> Myrtii, you'll notice that as a relatively new Ubuntu user myself I quickly understood what he was asking and pointed out the info that I found the most helpful for myself.  I simply said that I always get a chuckle out of lmgtfy.
[07:12] <PsychoX75> There is a file in Ubuntu under the /home/$user   where I can see all the programs that are being Autostarted when Ubuntu starts. The so called 'Startup' list in the GUI. Where is it located
[07:12] <PsychoX75> ?
[07:12] <beepie> PsychoX75, .config/autostart possibly
[07:13] <beepie> PsychoX75, for all users it's in /etc/xdg/autostart
[07:15] <beepie> johnhenery, much easier to just use x2go
[07:15] <joral> is anyone familiar with the encryption password entry bug with the boot screen? I am having to enter recovery mode for the text based password entry mode and then resuming the normal boot from recovery mode.
[07:15] <Myrtti> *sigh* if I weren't on my mobile I would have pointed out the benefits of dist-upgrade  over plain upgrade
[07:16] <beepie> Myrtti, you're not helping anyone, you're bickering.
[07:16] <beepie> Myrtti, you want to leave?
[07:16] <joral> Myrtii, he was asking how to upgrade packages and was pointed to dist-upgrade instead of apt-get's options
[07:16]  * beepie ignores Myrtti 
[07:16] <johnhenery> beepie: I am using xrdp because I can connect it through Guacamole. (remote desktop access via web browser) Is there a way to do this with x2go?
[07:17] <beepie> johnhenery, yes there's many extensions for x2go..
[07:17] <PsychoX75> beepie: that's the one. Thanks mate. The autostart.   :)
[07:17] <beepie> johnhenery, it has a support feature for web-servicing though i never tried it..
[07:17] <beepie> johnhenery, but it's easy to basically set it up-- as it works under ssh -- the client side is cross-platform
[07:17] <mobile3> anyone here to help?
[07:18] <johnhenery> guacamole requires no additional software. it is all backend. you can go to the website you are hosting it on, and login to your rdp client.
[07:18] <beepie> johnhenery, i do not know how difficult it is to setup the "web" aspect of it, that may be difficult to do or easy to do, you'd have to look into that component
[07:19] <beepie> PsychoX75, yw
[07:19] <johnhenery> It does not appear to allow web without front-end configuration.
[07:19] <johnhenery> client installation etc.
[07:20] <beepie> johnhenery, there's advanced uses of the NX protocol.. I've used a web-service of NX but with "nomachine.com's" proprietary server -- it has a free edition -- though it is not opensource
[07:20] <beepie> johnhenery, i don't know how to setup the web component for "x2go" -- it uses nx v3.
[07:20] <beepie> johnhenery, nx is feature rich for remote desktops
[07:20] <johnhenery> Everything is setup and working. I can login to guacamole, it takes me to a basic openbox desktop, I can right click and open Google chrome. All of this works, I just want to setup openbox to launch google chrome when a new openbox session starts.
[07:21] <homa_> hi my friends
[07:21] <johnhenery> Not sure if the chrome-start script needs to be associated with xrdp, rdp or openbox. Seems like openbox.
[07:21] <beepie> johnhenery, more efficient if you ssh -D , and proxy through that machine
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> !ask | mobile3
[07:21] <beepie> johnhenery, if you intend to use proxying that is..
[07:22] <beepie> johnhenery, though i should say your company might notice excessive ssh traffic and then cut you off
[07:22] <beepie> johnhenery, often is the case XD
[07:22] <johnhenery> I am not. The goal of this project is to use this website to all of my browser when at work.
[07:22] <johnhenery> exactly my point.
[07:22] <beepie> good luck :)
[07:22] <homa_> where is web file downloaded in firefox?
[07:22] <johnhenery> all my company will see is connecting to guacamole, everything else is encrypted.
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> homa_: /home/downloads
[07:23] <beepie> homa_, possibly ~/Documents
[07:23] <beepie> homa_, you can change firefox's settings to prompt you for location
[07:23] <johnhenery> So if you can assist in setting an app to launch every time openbox does, I would be very appreciative.
[07:23] <homa_> code of html and javascript
[07:23] <mobile3> lotuspsychje : ubottu : I have remove & from folder name recursively... how to ?
[07:23] <beepie> johnhenery, i'm saying if your company notices a lot of ssh traffic, they'd be suspicious
[07:23] <mobile3> lotuspsychje : ubottu : I have to remove '& from folder name recursively... how to ?
[07:23] <beepie> johnhenery, and take counter measures to disconnect those ssh sessions
[07:24] <beepie> johnhenery, i would understand why they would want to do that
[07:24] <homa_> cached web file beepie?
[07:25] <beepie> homa_,  cache files? not quite a ubuntu question is it?
[07:25] <beepie> homa_,  what are you trying to accomplish?
[07:25] <johnhenery> Seems like starting the whole project over over small roadbump seems rather silly. It cannot be that hard to setup open box to start with a specific application.
[07:26] <johnhenery> guacamole is the key to this whole thing. and the goal is seemly web browsing, I cannot but help feel like sshing a graphic interface would be not only laggy, but would create a lot of traffic.
[07:26] <johnhenery> seamless*
[07:27] <johnhenery> So if you can point me to the right information to learn how to start an application when openbox starts, or provide your insight into accomplishing this, I would appreciate it.
[07:28] <beepie> johnhenery, http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Autostart
[07:28] <beepie> johnhenery, if that doesn't work then you need to figure out what ubuntu's own openbox is doing
[07:28] <joral> johnhenery, from a quick scan of the openbox setup it looks like adding the launcher to ~/.config/openbox/autostart will achieve what you are trying to do
[07:29] <hateball> johnhenery: did you read http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Autostart ?
[07:29] <hateball> oh, such late
[07:29] <beepie> johnhenery, you're looking a bit silly here asking the same question over and over again, when on the openbox home project page it shows exactly just this.
[07:29] <beepie> johnhenery, geebus
[07:29] <joral> hateball, no just answer verification :P
[07:29] <beepie> johnhenery, just a little quick google and that gives you autostart for openbox
[07:30] <johnhenery> beepie: I did not know I needed openbox until about 3 minutes ago, after I had to realize for myself that I needed openbox.
[07:31] <beepie> johnhenery, ya lazy
[07:31] <johnhenery> and I also was not/am sure, as per my questioning from earlier, which was relatively disregarded, whilst I was repeated pushed torwards X2go, even after explaining multiple times that I was not looking for ssh
[07:31] <beepie> johnhenery, you type too much.. maybe you should focus on what the problem is really about
[07:31] <beepie> johnhenery, maybe it's not even openbox
[07:32] <homa_> how can i change code of web cached and see result?
[07:32] <mobile3> no one to answer??
[07:32] <beepie> nx is better performance than vnc and rdp.
[07:33] <beepie> (nx offers to open per-application as well-- client-supports this)
[07:33] <beepie> anyways. I'm not touching rdp. It's "ms" to me. :)
[07:33] <joral> mobile3, I did not see the question, could you clarify what you are trying to do?
[07:33] <beepie> rdp is for Windows systems afaik, well at least to me it is.
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> mobile3: best to re-ask once in a while
[07:33] <hateball> I am not sure why you'd run RDP to a linux machine using guacamole, rather than VNC
[07:34] <xinghaoran> hello
[07:34] <johnhenery> To reiterate, I was not aware I needed openbox, as I am still not sure, because all deepie did was repeated push me torward X2go instead of answer my question.
[07:34] <beepie> hateball, "nx" is much richer than vnc.
[07:34] <mobile3> joral: I want to remove '&' from all folders and sub folders name. How to?
[07:34] <johnhenery> that being said, I am not going to look into this, as it looks promising.
[07:35]  * beepie does not support Microsoft-created protocols. :)
[07:35] <beepie> ahem
[07:35] <johnhenery> (Don't expect people to know everything about a package that they just realized they may need)
[07:35] <beepie> mobile3, rm \&
[07:36] <mobile3> beepie: I don't want to remove the folder. I want to remove & from name means I want to rename the folders..
[07:37] <sina> does anyone know how secure dmcrypt is while the host is running?
[07:37] <beepie> mobile3, so mv \& newname <enter> , what's so hard?
[07:37] <beepie> mobile3, practicae that, once you get it, then try things with find|xargs
[07:37] <sina> i mean, if i have a RAID1 encrypted with dmcrypt and one of the disks is pulled out while the host is running and has unlocked the RAID1, is it accessible or not?
[07:37] <muffl0n> Hi! Is there any chance to use "apt-get" with OpenSSL instead of GnuTLS?
[07:37] <muffl0n> I'm getting this error when doing "apt-get update": "W: Failed to fetch https://packages.graylog2.org/repo/debian/dists/trusty/0.92/binary-amd64/Packages: GnuTLS recv error (-9): A TLS packet with unexpected length was received."
[07:37] <muffl0n> I already managed to install PyCurl with "pip install" which works like a charm: https://gist.github.com/muffl0n/2ae432dbb3ff161a5b20
[07:37] <beepie> mobile3, that might be too advanced
[07:38] <mobile3> beepie: I don't want to give another names to folders... just the same name... only remove '&' from the names....
[07:39] <joral> mobile3, the short version would be to basically perform 'mv folder&name foldername' for each folder in question. If you need to perform this in bulk it would require sed scripting that gets a little over my head.
[07:39] <homa_> how can i change code of web cached and see result?
[07:39] <beepie> mobile3, you have to use \
[07:40] <mobile3> beepie: for example .... there is a folder named "Start & End" then I want to make it "Start End".... if a folder named "meta&meta" then just to make it "metameta"....
[07:40] <homa_> how can i change code of web cached and see result?
[07:41] <beepie> mobile3, that's an advanced question, you probably might have a package to do it, but you can do it with scripting
[07:41] <mobile3> how?
[07:41] <beepie> mobile3, though you can do it manually, but for scripting it's too much work imho
[07:42] <beepie> mobile3, either a tool does it or else you have to learn how to script it
[07:42] <joral> homa_, are you trying to edit a static page before redeploying, or are you attempting to modify a live page?
[07:42] <mobile3> beepie: I have more than 500 folders like that.... I cannot do it manually
[07:42] <beepie> mobile3, well that's not my problem :)
[07:42] <beepie> mobile3, you have to find out or pay someone to do it XD
[07:43] <homa_> joral : static page
[07:44] <joral> homa_, save the page source to a file, then you can work with that file
[07:44] <beepie> homa_, you can access static local pages using "file:///" or file/open with your webbrowser
[07:45] <bandy> mobile3, http://gprename.sourceforge.net
[07:45] <joral> mobile3, I think http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_learning_the_shell.php might be a great tutorial for you to start with. Your not going to be able to go straight to your answer until your familiar with working with special characters on the command line.
[07:48] <Dylan____> Hey guys
[07:48] <Dylan____> so can someone help me dualboot windows and ubuntu
[07:55] <beepie> Dylan____, what happened? XD
[07:56] <beepie> Dylan____, did you wipe out the disk yet? :)) tehehe
[07:56] <beepie> Dylan____, see pm
[08:03] <Celphish> damn you cpufreq!
[08:03] <Celphish> anyone here pro with cpufreq?
[08:05] <beepie> Celphish, cpufreaks!
[08:05] <beepie> Celphish, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[08:05] <Celphish> I'll just throw it out there then.. and this might have been said last night but I never got it to work
[08:05]  * beepie hides
[08:06] <beepie> ahhhhhhhhhhh cpufreaks!
[08:06] <Celphish> I want my laptop to either set the governor powersave as default gov, OR set the cpu to 2.0Ghz (cpufreq-set -u 2.0Ghz)
[08:06] <beepie> Celphish, should show up somewhere as 'on demand' etc, you can keep your preference with the sysfsutils package i think
[08:07] <Celphish> Problem is that whatever I do with /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils doesn't do shit
[08:07] <Celphish> beepie: hmm, I haven't tried sysfsutils, I'll try that, thanks
[08:07] <beepie> Celphish, or it may be with sysctl.conf
[08:07] <beepie> Celphish, i forget which, but a wiki should says where to list available modes
[08:08] <beepie> Celphish, it'd be a cat /proc/<something> to see the current setting
[08:08] <beepie> Celphish, if the cpufreq related modules aren't loaded thouse would have to be
[08:08] <Celphish> beepie: I've googled myself to death.. I've set all the files to powersave, but it doesn't help
[08:08] <beepie> Celphish, well if the module "fails" to load then you know the hardware is not avail that linux can't see
[08:09] <Celphish> if I write sudo cpufreq-set -u 2.0Ghz after a few minutes it works.. I've also done a sudo crontab -e and added "@reboot /bin/sleep 90 ; cpufreq-set -u 2.0Ghz"
[08:09] <Celphish> beepie: it does load, it just ignores all settings
[08:10] <beepie> Celphish, cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
[08:11] <Celphish> beepie: been there, done that, it says "performance powersave"
[08:12] <beepie> Celphish, https://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/cpu-frequtils  -  https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling
[08:12] <beepie> Celphish, if you try modprobing the other modules, you might get more, dunno if you tried others
[08:15] <Celphish> beepie: the funny thing is, when I check the scaling_governor-file, it's set to powersave, but still, it starts up as performance, so frikkin annoying
[08:16] <Celphish> beepie: and like I said, if I run "sudo cpufreq-set -u 2.0Ghz" after I've logged in (after a few minutes) it works like a charm..
[08:17] <beepie> Celphish, that's not funny that's stupid. You should be using the configuration to set it
[08:18] <korpr_ukka> hello?
[08:18] <Dylan____> Yo
[08:18] <beepie> Celphish, these webpages should tell you what file you can change to fix it
[08:18] <korpr_ukka> does anyone know the Bash(something) guy?
[08:18] <Celphish> beepie: what do you mean configuration? that is the configuration? for instance, that sysfs.conf has a row that inserts "GOVERNOR="powersave"" into the scaling_governor-file, but it's already there!
[08:19] <CinnamonRickRoll> Anybody know if you can edit the pop-up that shows up after holding super?
[08:19] <korpr_ukka> he helped me yesterday andI wanted to tell him the solution I found
[08:20] <beepie> Celphish, what about the other files?
[08:20] <Celphish> beepie: might be on to something, hold on
[08:20] <beepie> Celphish, is there an /etc/default/cpufrequtils ?
[08:21] <beepie> Celphish, maybe you can also relate to that debian wiki for the ubuntu cpufrequtils pacakge
[08:21] <Celphish> beepie: yeupp, there is, and it has "GOVERNOR="powersave""
[08:22] <beepie> Celphish, lsmod|grep cpufreq
[08:22] <Celphish> beepie: does nothing
[08:30] <beepie> Dylan____, next time don't ask for "dual-boot" help pretending you're trying to install Windows10+Ubuntu, without saying you are trying to do this in a VM.  The fact is you were never doing this on real mac hardware.  You just wasted your time entirely when you could of been using snapshots. Next time be more open about it and you could save yourself the time and distraction from other users who could be getting the help.
[08:31] <beepie> Celphish, that stuff is a real pita man..
[08:31] <beepie> Celphish, anything with power-saving is broken on all linux..
[08:31] <beepie> Celphish, or hibernation, scaling power.. it's just experimental and try-as-you-go.. either it works or it doesn't..
[08:32] <beepie> Celphish, possibly a newer kernel upgrade might encompass newer hardware.. dunno i'm outta ideas, i think i tried this awhile ago and was getting similar results you were geting, and just gave up on it lol
[08:32] <dcunit3d> has anyone used the mtrack driver?
[08:33] <dcunit3d> i've been screwing around with it for like 3 hours now and i just want to right click when i click with two fingers.
[08:33] <dcunit3d> and everytime i make a change i have to restart or log out & log in
[08:33] <TheEagerPadawan> having issues to build nmap 7.01 from source on ubuntu 15.10 mate -> build-pcre failed -> output make @ http://pastebin.com/vQSkng5p
[08:33] <dcunit3d> it's killin gme
[08:34] <dcunit3d> and nowhere on the docs does it explain what values of 1,2,3,4 actually mean for ClickFingerX and TapFingerX https://github.com/BlueDragonX/xf86-input-mtrack/
[08:35] <Jordan_U> TheEagerPadawan: sudo apt-get build-dep nmap
[08:36] <korpr_ukka> hey Jordan_U !
[08:36] <korpr_ukka> remember my problem from yesterday?
[08:36] <korpr_ukka> the OS not found...
[08:36] <Jordan_U> korpr_ukka: Yes.
[08:37] <dave4925> any reason grub will not install with ubuntu based installers but debian installs grub without error to /dev/sda?
[08:37] <korpr_ukka> Jordan_U: I solved it
[08:38] <Jordan_U> dave4925: Have you tried running grub-install manually? If so, please pastebin the exact output.
[08:39] <korpr_ukka> Jordan_U: here's the thread I started it in. solution is in the last post http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=215179
[08:39] <Dylan____> Beepie
[08:39] <Dylan____> I was doing this on real hardware
[08:39] <Dylan____> Problem is i didnt understand this because you people talk about these stuff i dont know
[08:40] <dave4925> yeah I tried that, and I think it tried 5 times and errored out.  I remember getting errors about unsupported RAID mode 255 but I'm not in a RAID config
[08:40] <beepie> Dylan____, mac hardware uses UEFI
[08:40] <Dylan____> So i have opted to go for an easier way of using ubuntu as my main os now onn my mac and getting virtualbox and putting ubuntu on that
[08:40] <korpr_ukka> Jordan_U: tell the Bash(something) guy too. might be of use to him at some point if he keeps helping people like that :D
[08:40] <beepie> Dylan____, vbox can optionally not USE UEFI.
[08:40] <beepie> Dylan____, you were using VBOX the whole time, because otherwise you wouldn't have a dosmbr, that to me was suspicious from the beginning.
[08:41] <beepie> Dylan____, so no need to lie further about it
[08:41] <Dylan____> I was not using virtualbox idiot
[08:41] <Dylan____> IWASUSInG real fucking mac hardware you dickwad
[08:41] <Jordan_U> Dylan____: Please no name calling in this channel.
[08:41] <Dylan____> Fuck sake cant you get it through your thick skull?
[08:41] <Myrtti> Dylan____: please
[08:41] <Dylan____> I was using real mac hardware
[08:41] <beepie> well you went on to use vbox, and then assumed it's the same as real mac hardware. IT ISN'T. you should just said you were checking things out in VM. and that was that.. then come back later to it
[08:41] <Jordan_U> Dylan____: This will be your last warning. Such comments are not acceptable here.
[08:42] <Dylan____> Excuse me?
[08:42] <Dylan____> I did not say that
[08:42] <Dylan____> So you can shut your trap
[08:42] <Dylan____> Pathetic
[08:42] <beepie> exactly, not until i foun dout
[08:42] <Dylan____> ..
[08:42] <Jordan_U> Dylan____: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your mute.
[08:42] <dcunit3d> uhh jeez whats the problem?
[08:43] <korpr_ukka> ..because everyone knows name calling will help get your point through...
[08:43] <dcunit3d> yeh that was ridiculous
[08:43] <Myrtti> guys
[08:43] <Myrtti> let's keep to the topic, pleas
[08:43] <Myrtti> e
[08:44] <squinty> fwiw, he has been on her for hours trying to resolve his install problems.  guess he finally reached his terminal point....
[08:45] <korpr_ukka> hehe, took me 3 days to install linux...
[08:46] <dcunit3d> i isntalled ubuntu a week ago and it overwrote my UEFI to point to grub.  a bit confusing i guess, but i had already been working with rEFInd, so just used efibootmgr to rewrite it
[08:47] <dcunit3d> finally figured out this ClickFinger crap with mtrack though.  it still doesnt make any sense.
[08:47] <dcunit3d> i guess the frustrating part is needing to restart my laptop or lightdm everytime i make a change.  that leads to a slow feedback loop
[08:48] <korpr_ukka> how close is android system to linux PC ?
[08:48] <Jordan_U> korpr_ukka: Not very. For such discussion though #ubuntu-offtopic would be better.
[08:49] <dcunit3d> if you violate the GPL, who sues you?  just wondering
[08:49] <korpr_ukka> well it was just one random question. no intention to drive the issue further
[08:49] <Jordan_U> dcunit3d: Another question better suited to #ubuntu-offtopic :) This channel is for Ubuntu support questions only.
[08:50] <beepie> dcunit3d, gnu has a form violation submission service by email..
[08:50] <beepie> dcunit3d, either gnu or fsf has that service, i forget which one but it's there
[08:51] <beepie> dcunit3d, basically the same organization started by rms himself
[08:51] <dcunit3d> ahh ok thanks beepie, just wondering. just briefly found myself wondering about that.
[08:53] <TheEagerPadawan> Jordan_U: getting a bit further= http://0bin.net/paste/3dSps629Tu8YKXrs#GS8SsVKpQqPOOd6dpEx9m9vTJviL1FcfgUyZtPPfEZJ
[08:54]  * squinty wonders what exactly dcunit3d's briefs have to do with ubuntu support :-P
[08:54] <korpr_ukka> they are supporting briefs, lol
[08:55] <dcunit3d> what's a brief?  like a brief question?
[08:55] <korpr_ukka> check google images for answer
[08:55] <squinty> underwear
[08:55]  * squinty spanks me for going ot
[08:56] <Gotham25> I have some problems while booting Ubuntu from CD. My PC Screen shows only black screen and nothing else. I have Dell Inspiron 5000 series N5558.
[08:56] <dcunit3d> lol i donno, i'm using ubuntu and need a large community of users who might know the answer to a question
[08:57] <dcunit3d> squinty's over here gettin kinky. would u like to file a support request for that?
[08:58] <korpr_ukka> Gotham25: look for nvidia boot problems maybe. just spent days looking at boot stuff and that sounds like one of the nvidia-ones
[08:59] <korpr_ukka> Gotham25: don't remember that well, but I think starting in 'safe mode' was part of the solution
[08:59] <Gotham25> korpr_ukka: nvidia works fine within windows how come it would be the cause for the problem of booting stuff.
[08:59] <korpr_ukka> Gotham25: because you're not booting windows?
[09:00] <Gotham25> korpr_ukka: Ok. I agree but how can Nvidia affects the Ubuntu CD boot process.
[09:00] <dcunit3d> Gotham25 does anything happen before the black screen?
[09:01] <korpr_ukka> Gotham25: beats me. just told you what I read from various places
[09:01] <Gotham25> dcunit3d: nothing. After "Press any key to boot from CD" only black screen.
[09:01] <Gotham25> dcunit3d: Also the disk is running.
[09:01] <squinty> Gotham25,  shouldn't as it will load nouveau or fall back to fbdev/vesa drivers.   see if you can set it to  "nomodeset" on the kernal line
[09:01] <dcunit3d> i donno, that's strange, it sounds like it could be something else
[09:02] <Gotham25> squinty: I don't get you
[09:02] <korpr_ukka> Gotham25: something like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1975428
[09:03] <Gotham25> squinty: I'm entirely new. And don't know these drivers and all other stuffs.
[09:03] <squinty> Gotham25,  posted that before your last statement.   seems you arenn't eve
[09:03] <squinty> n getting to the "try ubunto" or "install" screen then
[09:04] <Gotham25> korpr_ukka: Yeah. The same
[09:04] <dcunit3d> are you booting from CD or DVD?
[09:05] <korpr_ukka> will it even fit on cd?
[09:05] <Gotham25> korpr_ukka: But I need to get the purple screen in order to do that. I don't get that screen itself.
[09:05] <korpr_ukka> Gotham25: so you get absolutely nothing?
[09:05] <Gotham25> dcunit3d: CD
[09:06] <korpr_ukka> you might try just hitting the esc repeatedly when booting
[09:06] <dcunit3d> korpr_ukka: there's a stripped down version for cd's
[09:06] <squinty> Gotham25,  run the check on iso (md5) itself first
[09:06] <squinty> Gotham25,  then if (md5 is correct) reburn or use usb
[09:06] <Gotham25> korpr_ukka: Won't I end up Screwed while doing so
[09:07] <dcunit3d> Gotham25: if you can boot from USB, you should try doing that.  you'll need a 4GB usb, i think?  will it work with 2GB?
[09:07] <Gotham25> squinty: It boots fine in other laptops. But not mine
[09:07] <squinty> yep
[09:08] <korpr_ukka> I doubt esc breaks anything. it can screw up the booting but nothing permanent
[09:08] <Gotham25> dcunit3d: Whatever may be the way. Same black screen still.
[09:09] <dcunit3d> unfortunately, i don't know enough about a livecd boot process to know what to do there. if it doesn't get to to GRUB or to the purple screen, i donno
[09:09] <squinty> Gotham25,  might be a case of uefi    not really up on this topic though.  see if accessing bios provides any clues
[09:10] <korpr_ukka> could someone explain that 'get to the GRUB' ?
[09:11] <Gotham25> squinty: currently it boots only in UEFI. Whereas my windows boots in Legacy.
[09:11] <korpr_ukka> what does it look like when it 'gets to the GRUB'
[09:11] <squinty> korpr_ukka,  grub aka boot loader.  to acess grub menu hold down shift key after inital computer splash screen
[09:12] <korpr_ukka> ah, ok. never seen that I guess
[09:12] <Shawn|i7-ubu> howdy
[09:13] <squinty> Gotham25,  hmmm...strange.  with legacy boot you figure that dvd/cd wouldn't be the problem
[09:14] <Shawn|i7-ubu> does firewire work in ubuntu?
[09:15] <Gotham25> squinty: By default in BIOS settings the Legacy is default. In that Windows OS boots. Whereas the Ubuntu Live CD doesn't boot. So I need to manually change the settings from Legacy to UEFI in boot to Boot the Ubuntu.
[09:15] <Gotham25> And again to boot windows I need to change from UEFI to Legacy.
[09:15] <Gotham25> squinty: And again to boot windows I need to change from UEFI to Legacy.
[09:16] <dcunit3d> isn't UEFI in nvram?
[09:16] <net2014> hello
[09:16] <net2014> can you recommend a good antivirus for ubuntu? something that also has a gui front please
[09:16] <Gotham25> dcunit3d: What's nvram
[09:16] <dcunit3d> i guess this is beside the point, but is the Legacy config also in NVRAM?
[09:17] <Gotham25> dcunit3d: you mean non volatile ram
[09:17] <dcunit3d> nvram is a small amount of storage on devices.  'non-volatile RAM'.  it's like RAM, but the values persist across reboots.
[09:18] <squinty> Gotham25,  none of my systems here use uefi so as previously stated, i am not really up to date on that but the following might be of assistance   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[09:18] <Shawn|i7-ubu> hellol?
[09:18] <Shawn|i7-ubu> *hello rather
[09:18] <bitgeek_> Hi, I tried to install kubuntu-desktop, but in the process for a package warning so I ran:
[09:18] <bitgeek_> sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq account-plugin-google unity-scope-gdrive
[09:18] <dcunit3d> Gotham25: have you filed an issue on launchpad or ubuntu support?
[09:18] <beepie> Shawn|i7-ubu, #bash> echo hello
[09:18] <beepie> Shawn|i7-ubu, hello
[09:19] <Gotham25> dcunit3d: Yes.
[09:19] <Celphish> hmm
[09:19] <bitgeek_> then did the install again, after a while I decided I didn't like it so tried to remove
[09:19] <beepie> bitgeek_, kubuntu imho is pretty fuckan good
[09:19] <beepie> bitgeek_, wouldn't mind recommending it over ubuntu-unity lol XD
[09:19] <bitgeek_> now I get a completly blank greeter screen, I type my password and can login
[09:19]  * beepie eeps
[09:20] <Shawn|i7-ubu> okay, at least I know I am getting through ._.
[09:20] <bitgeek_> also strangly I still get the glowing kubuntu logo when I shutdown and bootup
[09:20] <squinty> net2014,  unless you are interacting with windows ( example  downloading windows related files via linux) then an antivirus (at this particular point in time is not urgently a necessity)
[09:20] <beepie> Shawn|i7-ubu, that's more of a linux-kernel question, if the kernel says how much "firewire" is supported then that's what ubuntu has
[09:20] <bitgeek_> beepie: kubuntu is nice for me, but my 6yo found Unity easier
[09:21] <beepie> bitgeek_, nice
[09:21] <Shawn|i7-ubu> wow...ubuntu doesn't like IDT HD audio onboard hardware
[09:21] <beepie> bitgeek_, wow you're a good leading parent in tech lol
[09:21] <beepie> bitgeek_, ;-)
[09:21] <beepie> bitgeek_, usually it's the other way around XD
[09:21] <bitgeek_> beepie: now is just weird I get a completly blank screen where I type my pw to login
[09:21] <Shawn|i7-ubu> I can't even get audio on this usb installation
[09:21] <net2014> squinty, thanks for the information, I would nevertheless be interested at installing an anti-virus, just in case, is clamav good?
[09:21] <Gotham25> dcunit3d: But no improvement in solution for this issue
[09:21] <bitgeek_> beepie: next gen geek :)
[09:21] <beepie> bitgeek_, you using intel gfx?
[09:21] <Shawn|i7-ubu> it likes my i7 though
[09:22] <bitgeek_> beepie: probably is a hp elitebook
[09:22] <Shawn|i7-ubu> mine is a dell
[09:22] <beepie> bitgeek_, you using kubuntu 15.04/15.10 ?
[09:22] <bitgeek_> beepie: 15.10
[09:23] <bitgeek_> beepie: I tried to reinstall the OS b the live cd didnt give me a repair option
[09:23] <squinty> net2014,  can't really say but if you google, I know from persona exprience that you will get some alternative beside clamav.
[09:23] <beepie> bitgeek_, i was having a similar problem here back a couple months ago, it was mainly slight issues like this -- reality is the intel gfx driver was updated after the disotr's release -> see https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-installer-linux-1.2.1
[09:23] <bitgeek_> beepie: I cant think what I need to google
[09:23] <net2014> squinty, I see, thank you.
[09:23] <Gotham25> squinty: you said something about nomodeset. Can you explain it briefly.
[09:24] <beepie> bitgeek_, there's a .deb to download and you can apply gdebi <.deb>
[09:24] <beepie> bitgeek_, or double click it, and i think gdebi-gui takes over
[09:24] <Gotham25> squinty: Where to set nomodeset in Ubuntu CD which has ISO image of Ubuntu
[09:24] <bitgeek_> beepie: thanks, let me checkout that link
[09:25] <beepie> bitgeek_, what model, i suppose by guess you're using the intel gfx by default
[09:25] <akincana> need help with partitionong will use patebin
[09:25] <beepie> bitgeek_, or whatever is the primary gfx -- i'm guessing its intel
[09:26] <squinty> Gotham25,   if you can get to a "grub" or "install/try" screen, by pressing the TAB key, it will allow a user to add/minus parameters to the linux boot line  one such instance is "nomodeset" witch will dictate that no particular driver except "vesa" or "fbdev" be loaded for graphics functioning.
[09:26] <beepie> Gotham25, it's imho hard to keep changing modes in the boot-chip from uefi<->legacy-bios , best is to just stick with one mode and install bothe Oses for that mode
[09:27] <Shawn|i7-ubu> why is ##ubuntu invite only?
[09:27] <net2014> does clamav scan files you open lively?
[09:28] <akincana> here is the patebin thanks for some pointers in right direction  http://pastebin.com/hkUG7yqt
[09:28] <k1l_> Shawn|i7-ubu: its restricted
[09:28] <beepie> Shawn|i7-ubu, ##ubuntu is for gurus
[09:28]  * squinty is crestfallen
[09:29] <beepie> akincana, "gpt" :p
[09:29] <dcunit3d> Gotham25: nomodeset is a param passed in when you boot Linux, i believe.  i think you config options like that in rEFInd and maybe GRUB.
[09:29] <dcunit3d> but i don't know that you can do that without having a bootloader installed
[09:29] <beepie> akincana, doesnt make sense
[09:30] <Shawn|i7-ubu> oh
[09:30] <beepie> akincana, linux would be inside a luks container
[09:30] <Shawn|i7-ubu> no one here do firewire stuff?
[09:30] <Celphish> beepie: I don't have time to troubleshoot more atm, have to work.. to be continued :)
[09:30] <akincana> beepie: what does not make sense
[09:30] <k1l_> akincana: you are using mint?
[09:30] <beepie> akincana, conflicting information because you would need something with LVM, and i don't see that here
[09:30] <net2014> thanks
[09:30] <dcunit3d> Shawn|i7-ubu: what kind of firewire stuff do you work with?  i have a firewire port on my old mac
[09:30] <bitgeek_> beepie: still the same, while booting I see the glowing kubuntu logo (which I thought I uninstalled) then I hear the drums, then blank screen, type password and I can login!
[09:31] <beepie> Celphish, yeah that is a pita good luck with it lol
[09:31] <akincana> ok yes its mint
[09:31] <dcunit3d> macbookpro, but i'm not using it with linux.  i used to use it for audio, but my mixer's fucked
[09:31] <squinty> Shawn|i7-ubu,  not all particpants use all linux functions.  if no-one answers, then ask again in 10 minutes or so.  :-)
[09:31] <beepie> Celphish, it's always possible you might need a dilly "module option" with a hardware module, or possibly some stupid thing in the bios to make linux happy
[09:31] <k1l_> akincana: better ask the mint support how to handle their stuff
[09:31] <k1l_> !mint | akincana
[09:31] <anand_ts> hello all
[09:31] <beepie> Celphish, it is after-all more of a "linux kernel" issue more than anything disotr
[09:31] <bitgeek_> the first screen you see in Ubuntu listing the users, is it called the greeter-screen?
[09:32] <Shawn|i7-ubu> oh, this room is more of a checkout counter?
[09:32] <akincana> ok the howto says it will work on ubuntu
[09:32] <anand_ts> I can't login to GUI using the password set. But I can login to cli using the sam epassword
[09:32] <Celphish> beepie: ye.. probably.. read somewhere about a module, but not sure, since it works when I do it manually.. Just not automated.. I might have to do a startup-script in worst case
[09:32] <anand_ts> What can be the issue
[09:32] <anand_ts> ?
[09:32] <k1l_> !ontopic | Shawn|i7-ubu
[09:32] <anand_ts> it is Ubuntu 14.04 tryust
[09:32] <k1l_> akincana: mint does some things differently. so please ask them
[09:33] <akincana> ok will do
[09:33] <akincana> thanks
[09:33] <Shawn|i7-ubu> well, I hope it isn't :/
[09:33] <dcunit3d> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:33] <squinty> Shawn|i7-ubu,  this channel is supported by volunteers but is an official ubuntu support channel
[09:33] <dcunit3d> ...
[09:33] <Shawn|i7-ubu> well thank you, I am glad we got that cleared up
[09:33] <beepie> bitgeek_, did you install the new intel driver? (1.2.1?)
[09:34] <bitgeek_> beepie: yes
[09:34] <beepie> bitgeek_, i suppose you rebooted?
[09:34] <beepie> bitgeek_, :)
[09:35] <Shawn|i7-ubu> I have a Que!Fire FireWire CD-RW Drive that I opened up, and swapped the IDE optical drive with a 160GB IDE drive, and I dont even see it in the disks information panel
[09:35] <squinty> beepie: interesting you should ask that.   minor video corruption (none before the last month give or take)   any word on recent buglets pertaining to intel drivers?   thanks  :-)
[09:36] <Shawn|i7-ubu> my lapotp has a mini 4-pin firewire plug, and I am using a 4-pin to normal firewire cable to connect this drive
[09:36] <Celphish> k1l_: never got it to work yesterday :/ no matter what the settings is cpufreq ignores my gov-settings and sticks to performance.. :/
[09:37] <bitgeek_> beepie: yes, full shutdown, I found something online that I am trying, installing a different greeter and selecting that as default, see hwt happen
[09:37] <Shawn|i7-ubu> *laptop
[09:37] <beepie> squinty, if you use intel gfx and are on 15.10, you need to be using intel's 1.2.1 release which came after the distro release
[09:37] <beepie> bitgeek_, how did you install this .deb may i ask?
[09:38] <beepie> bitgeek_, btw i asked for the "full model" of the laptop to be sure if you're even using intel ;)
[09:38] <bitgeek_> beepie: like you said, I double clicked it and Software Center loaded then I clicked Install button
[09:38] <net2014_> suppose I download an ebook in cbr format, how do I know that it doesn't have viruses in it?
[09:39] <bitgeek_> beepie: missed that, it is HP EliteBook 8440p
[09:39] <k1l_> net2014_: use clamav to scan it
[09:39] <squinty> beepie,  ok thanks  not using 15.xx   on 14.04.03 lts here,  was just wondering and grateful for the input.  thanks again.  :-)
[09:39] <k1l_> net2014_: but even that is not a guarantee that its virus free.
[09:40] <beepie> squinty, intel now provides compatible (about a year or possibly two years ago), for the "latest" releases of its intel gfx drivers for the ubuntu platform --- for the main ubuntu-official recognized distros you can use it for these
[09:40] <beepie> squinty, ( https://01.org/linuxgraphics/ )
[09:41] <Shawn|i7-ubu> I wonder if ubuntu even supports firewire data stuff
[09:41] <k1l_> beepie: is he even using intel gpu?
[09:41] <squinty> beepie:   cheers will check it out  :_)
[09:41] <beepie> Shawn|i7-ubu, whatever the linux kernel provides..
[09:41] <beepie> Shawn|i7-ubu, told you so, it means if the kernel supports it, then any distro would
[09:41] <beepie> Shawn|i7-ubu, how well "firewire" is supported i don't know..
[09:41] <dcunit3d> Shawn|i7-ubu: did the original drive connect?  how is the firewire connected to the IDE drive?  the signaling used to initiate a connection to the CD drive might be specific in some way
[09:42] <beepie> Shawn|i7-ubu, quite a non-ubuntu related issue, as ubuntu/canonical don't do firewire development
[09:42] <Celphish> beepie: I tried another thing btw, changed the setting in /boot/kernel...something... To use the powersave-gove, but noooooo, ignored that aswell
[09:42] <k1l_> beepie: that answer is not really helpful
[09:42] <Shawn|i7-ubu> how am I supposed to know what the kernel supports??
[09:42] <dcunit3d> it wouldn't surprise me if it worked, just swapping the drive out for an IDE drive.  it also wouldn't surprise me if it didn't work in the same way.
[09:43] <beepie> Shawn|i7-ubu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire
[09:43] <dcunit3d> look in /boot/config*
[09:43] <k1l_> Shawn|i7-ubu: are you sure the cd-rom adapter is showing himself as a hdd now? does that work on other OSs?
[09:43] <beepie> Shawn|i7-ubu, the work of it comes from kernel.org
[09:43] <Shawn|i7-ubu> the optical drive that came with it is a plain ole standard interface
[09:43] <Shawn|i7-ubu> *old
[09:43] <k1l_> Shawn|i7-ubu: do you know that works?
[09:43] <CacheMoney> why is that when I scroll in my terminal window, it goes through the commands I last used and not scroll through the output
[09:44] <Shawn|i7-ubu> I know it worked when my 2nd father used it back in the day
[09:44] <beepie> Shawn|i7-ubu, you could even google this
[09:44] <beepie> Shawn|i7-ubu, https://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Release_Notes
[09:44] <beepie> Shawn|i7-ubu, has 2015 updates, i think that should answer your question
[09:44] <dcunit3d> ubuntu should have the linux kernel configured with firewire. but i don't know.
[09:44] <ikonia> it does
[09:45] <ikonia> ubuntu and pretty much every distro has firewire as an available module
[09:45] <dcunit3d> Shawn|i7-ubu: also, apparently there were new firewire drivers that were included in linux 2.6+ (see http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/FIREWIRE.html)
[09:45] <beepie> yeah, and it's a linux-related thing, not a limitation based on distro
[09:45] <squinty> CacheMoney,  if using up/down keys then scroll through previous commands.   to scroll output, here using scroll wheel works to see output.
[09:46] <k1l_> beepie: where is you point?
[09:46] <beepie> k1l_, my point is the limitation is not due to Ubuntu's fault it cannot provide support for all firewire. That's what.
[09:46] <ikonia> what ?
[09:46] <ikonia> it supports firewire just fine
[09:47] <beepie> " I know it worked when my 2nd father used it back in the day"
[09:47] <beepie> not interested on how many fathers he has.
[09:47] <beepie> geewhiz.
[09:47]  * beepie digresses from any "personal" issues.
[09:47] <beepie> pff
[09:47] <Shawn|i7-ubu> are there any firewire programs other than audio available?
[09:47] <ikonia> beepie: enough, you're not helping
[09:47] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: what's the actual issue you face, it's got a bit lost in the noise
[09:48] <Shawn|i7-ubu> all I get in the ubuntu software center is an audio mixer when searching for firewire
[09:48] <net2014> hello
[09:48] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: what is your actual problem
[09:48] <k1l_> Shawn|i7-ubu: what happens in "dmesg" if you attach that cable?
[09:48] <Shawn|i7-ubu> I dont see any extra mountable disks
[09:48] <dcunit3d> Shawn|i7-ubu: try connecting to the CD drive first. if that works via firewire, then the HD might work.
[09:49] <Shawn|i7-ubu> ah I must figure that out
[09:49] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: so you have a firewire disk correct ? and you can't see it in the distro ?
[09:49] <Shawn|i7-ubu> how do I dmesg?
[09:49] <net2014> something weird just happened, applications closed and the login screen appeared, then I logged in again, why is that?
[09:49] <squinty> terminal
[09:49] <beepie> ikonia, maybe you should follow-through that I answered his question and just be happy about it. Because you shouldn't be asking him to repeat his question for the fourth time.
[09:49] <Shawn|i7-ubu> its an ide to firewire system
[09:49] <beepie> ikonia, that is not constructive nor helpful
[09:50] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: ok - so it's quite an old chipset as firewire to ide wasn't really a "standard"
[09:50] <Shawn|i7-ubu> I'm gonna try xterm, since I use that in netbsd
[09:50] <Celphish> k1l_: Sneaky! :)
[09:50] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: are you comfortable using a terminal ?
[09:50] <Shawn|i7-ubu> kinda
[09:50] <Shawn|i7-ubu> dunno the linux side
[09:50] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: ok, so thats a good start
[09:50] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: can you unplug your firewire hard disk please
[09:50] <Shawn|i7-ubu> its unplugged
[09:51] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: there are a few things that could be impacting you, some are easy to fix, some are total no-go
[09:51] <ikonia> lets find out which hits you
[09:51] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: so can you please open a terminal
[09:51] <Shawn|i7-ubu> ok
[09:51] <squinty> k1l: you just evicted a participant who has been trying ( and is knowledgable) to help for several hours now.  you guys have a misunderstanding
[09:51] <Shawn|i7-ubu> open
[09:52] <k1l_> squinty: he did gave some false advice and his attitude was again not acceptable. it was not the first time.
[09:52] <beepie> say there are firewire-tools
[09:52] <beepie> but that's not my domain.
[09:52] <bitgeek_> beepie: I tried 'sudo apt-get install unity-greeter; sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get install unity' but no change :(
[09:52] <k1l_> !guidelines | beepie
[09:52] <beepie> repeating the same thing is actually not imho an invitation for "help"
[09:52] <beepie> because repeating the same thing over and over again like is rather annoying to be frank about it.
[09:52] <beepie> really.
[09:52] <beepie> it is.
[09:52] <squinty> k1l:  ok but none of us are perfect.... at least he was trying.  anyways enough said
[09:53] <Celphish> what's up with the op-sneakyness? Get op, kick, remove op? Undercover ops? :)
[09:53] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: ok, sorry got lost agai in the noise
[09:53] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: so can you run the following command "ls -la /var/log/syslog"
[09:54] <Shawn|i7-ubu> wow... those dont show up in a plain firewire search
[09:54] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: hang on, lets not run before walking
[09:54] <k1l_> Shawn|i7-ubu: can you pastebin a "dmesg"
[09:54] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: just confirm the file is there
[09:54] <Shawn|i7-ubu> how do I paste the command?
[09:54] <Shawn|i7-ubu> in xterm?
[09:54] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: hang on
[09:55] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: this is a full install, not a livecd yes ?
[09:55] <k1l_> Shawn|i7-ubu: install pastebinit then "dmesg | pastebinit"
[09:55] <Shawn|i7-ubu> its on a usb live distro
[09:55] <Shawn|i7-ubu> no hdds to install on atm
[09:55] <ikonia> ok, so this could also cause additional problem
[09:55] <Shawn|i7-ubu> from 3 TB down to 500GB
[09:55] <Shawn|i7-ubu> :(
[09:55] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: follow the command that k1l_ suggested
[09:55] <squinty> you can still install (temp) pastebin.
[09:55] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: keep in mind it will be temporary
[09:55] <Shawn|i7-ubu> yes
[09:55] <Shawn|i7-ubu> but theres a persistence file system
[09:56] <squinty> then you are covered
[09:56] <philm88> I've got a bunch of packages that need me to apt-get upgrade. Is there a way to get a list of those packges, the currently installed version & what the version will be after the upgrade?
[09:56] <Shawn|i7-ubu> all my changes and installs are kept for each restart
[09:56] <Shawn|i7-ubu> so its basically an install :O
[09:56] <Shawn|i7-ubu> on an 8GB USB drive, usable :)
[09:56] <ikonia> well, not quite, but it's certainly workable
[09:56] <squinty> yep
[09:56] <Shawn|i7-ubu> 6GBs free space to use
[09:56] <hateball> Shawn|i7-ubu: ctrl+shift+c/v to copy/paste in terminals
[09:56] <hateball> (usually)
[09:57] <k1l_> Shawn|i7-ubu: you can still manually put it on paste.ubuntu.com
[09:57] <squinty> philipballew,  check out the "simulate" option.
[09:58] <Shawn|i7-ubu> okay, can't use xterm :(
[09:58] <Shawn|i7-ubu> -rw-r----- 1 syslog adm 282956090 Jan 28 02:55 /var/log/syslog
[09:58] <Shawn|i7-ubu> thats what I got
[09:58] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: perfect, so can you run the following command please
[09:58] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: "> /var/log/syslog"
[09:58] <squinty> philm88,  check out the "simulate" option
[09:59] <Shawn|i7-ubu> ?
[09:59] <Celphish> ikonia: do you happen to know alot about cpufrequtils by any chance?
[09:59] <philm88> squinty: thanks, i'll take a look
[10:00] <ikonia> Celphish: not a huge ammount, I don't normally have the need to use it as power managment works fine on my devices, I have used it in the past
[10:00] <Shawn|i7-ubu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14687344/
[10:01] <superNoob> "Check that the DOCKER_HOST environment variable is not set for your shell. If it is, unset it."
[10:01] <superNoob> How should i do this?
[10:01] <Shawn|i7-ubu> I have bad sata disks I was running via esata
[10:01] <ikonia> that looks like firmware on the controller is not compatible
[10:01] <Shawn|i7-ubu> their smart status are bad
[10:01] <Shawn|i7-ubu> ikonia, where?
[10:01] <ikonia> looks like one of the non-oxford based firewire chips
[10:02] <ikonia> which considering it's firewire -> IDE isn't a huge surprise
[10:02] <Celphish> ikonia: oh, damn.. I've got ubuntu on my work-laptop (Gigabyte P34w v3) and if I don't lower the freq of the cpu the fan makes too much noise when I'm running all my apps..
[10:02] <Shawn|i7-ubu> not compatible?
[10:02] <Shawn|i7-ubu> :(
[10:02] <Shawn|i7-ubu> great, I can'
[10:02] <Shawn|i7-ubu> can't back up :(
[10:02] <Celphish> ikonia: works fine if I set the freq manually (cpufreq-set -u 2.0Ghz), but can't get it to do that on boot
[10:03] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: thats what it looks like at a glance
[10:04] <Shawn|i7-ubu> what looks like?
[10:04] <Shawn|i7-ubu> this is an ieee1394 device though isn't it?
[10:06] <ikonia> it should be yes
[10:06] <kk_drop> I'm trying to replace string with variable name in sed command, but it returns errors: sed -e "s/IMAGE_NAME/${NEW_DOCKER_IMAGE_NAME}/g" docker-compose.yml
[10:06] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: if in doubt run "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit"
[10:06] <ikonia> and show us the pastegin
[10:06] <ikonia> bin
[10:07] <anchnk> hello, i would like to apply the numix theme only the unity launcher and keep the default theme for everything else, does anybody know how to handle that ?
[10:07] <Shawn|i7-ubu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14687367/
[10:07] <k1l_> anchnk: i dont think that is possible
[10:11] <Shawn|i7-ubu> wow.. firefox 39 ubuntu doesn't support youtube quality over 360p
[10:12] <squinty> recent update if ff 44
[10:12] <k1l_> Shawn|i7-ubu: update your system. ubuntu ships a new firefox
[10:12] <Shawn|i7-ubu> ah, well that would have to be tomorrow, it is late
[10:12] <zeroptr> hi all
[10:13] <Shawn|i7-ubu> my laptop currently can't use windows
[10:13] <Shawn|i7-ubu> bad disk :(
[10:13] <Shawn|i7-ubu> I can't even get to backing up!
[10:13] <zeroptr> I have to install a touch driver from eeti on my system
[10:14] <zeroptr> dirver manual says I have to configure kernel
[10:14] <zeroptr> make menuconfig doesn't work
[10:14] <zeroptr> how can I make it work?
[10:16] <dcunit3d> so, when i installed the `mtrack` touchpad drivers, it messed up my configuration for the `bcwc_pcie` facetimehd camera drivers. how do i watch that modules like that aren't loaded or aren't configured.
[10:16] <dcunit3d> and how do i script things like that to be fixed automatically?
[10:18] <Shawn|i7-ubu> I plugged it in, and it said it rediscovered the device, but doesn't show what it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/14687408/
[10:19] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: giving up on node ffc1: reading config rom failed: no ack
[10:19] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: that is key
[10:19] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: can you give me the output of "sudo fdisk -l" please in a pastebin
[10:20] <Shawn|i7-ubu> thats far above
[10:20] <Shawn|i7-ubu> not the most recent firewire activity
[10:20] <Shawn|i7-ubu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14687415/
[10:25] <Shawn|i7-ubu> this is the laptop I am using http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Dell-Studio-1747-Notebook.24820.0.html, it shows the firewire type
[10:29] <XuCharlieSp84> hello!!!
[10:29] <XuCharlieSp84> Please I need some help with ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[10:29] <XuCharlieSp84> Can someone help me?
[10:30] <rilleh> XuCharlieSp84: Don't ask to ask, just ask
[10:30] <Mathisen> XuCharlieSp84, ask the question
[10:30] <XuCharlieSp84> ok
[10:30] <XuCharlieSp84> I have a sdcard reader in my laptop, buy when i try to use an sdcard
[10:30] <XuCharlieSp84> it mount without problems
[10:30] <XuCharlieSp84> then i try to read or write files
[10:31] <XuCharlieSp84> and it starts to unmount and mount again and again
[10:31] <XuCharlieSp84> i try with many filesystems
[10:31] <XuCharlieSp84> ok no many, just fat32 and ntfs
[10:32] <XuCharlieSp84> here's my lspci -k
[10:32] <XuCharlieSp84> sudo apt-get install laptop-mode-tools xubuntu-restricted-extras rar unrar unace zip unzip p7zip-full p7zip-rar sharutils mpack arj cabextract uudeview synaptic lm-sensors activity-log-manager psensor
[10:32] <XuCharlieSp84> ups
[10:32] <XuCharlieSp84> 07:06.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/xD)
[10:32] <XuCharlieSp84> 	Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device ff10
[10:32] <XuCharlieSp84> 	Kernel driver in use: tifm_7xx1
[10:32] <XuCharlieSp84> 07:06.3 SD Host controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx12 SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller
[10:32] <XuCharlieSp84> 	Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device ff10
[10:33] <Shawn|i7-ubu> ooh
[10:33] <Shawn|i7-ubu> so thats what happens when someone floods
[10:33] <rilleh> :)
[10:33] <XuCharlieSp84>  07:06.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/xD)
  Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device ff10
  Kernel driver in use: tifm_7xx1
 07:06.3 SD Host controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx12 SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller
  Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device ff10
  Kernel driver in use: sdhci-pci
[10:34] <rilleh> lol
[10:34] <Shawn|i7-ubu> >.<
[10:34] <Shawn|i7-ubu> I feel sorry for that ignorant kid
[10:34] <rilleh> If only people could read the topic
[10:34] <Shawn|i7-ubu> indeed
[10:35] <Shawn|i7-ubu> I have an offtopic question, anyone here heard of a gyro ball exercising device?
[10:35] <ikonia> not really for this channel Shawn|i7-ubu
[10:35] <Shawn|i7-ubu> oh :(
[10:35] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: had to step away from desk, is firewire working for you now ?
[10:35] <Shawn|i7-ubu> nope
[10:35] <rilleh> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:36] <Shawn|i7-ubu> my flaky hdd is making its rythmic parking noise again
[10:36] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: did you do the "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit" command I asked for earlier ?
[10:36] <Shawn|i7-ubu> the IDE one, biggest one I have
[10:36] <Shawn|i7-ubu> yes I did
[10:36] <Shawn|i7-ubu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14687415/
[10:36] <ikonia> thanks
[10:36] <ikonia> how big is the Firewire disk ?
[10:38] <Shawn|i7-ubu> well the hdd plugged into the ide bus is 160GBs
[10:38] <ikonia> yeah, it's not seeing it
[10:38] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: I suspect that chipset is something propritary
[10:38] <Shawn|i7-ubu> to what degree?
[10:39] <ikonia> what do you mean
[10:40] <Shawn|i7-ubu> propietary on which side?
[10:41] <ikonia> the chip set
[10:41] <Shawn|i7-ubu> the chipset.. o.o
[10:41] <Shawn|i7-ubu> I see
[10:41] <Shawn|i7-ubu> aren't they all?
[10:42] <ikonia> no, there where some main ones which are well supported and some propirtary ones, which only really ever worked in windows thanks to drivers,
[10:42] <ikonia> I suspect from what you've shown me and the fact it's firewire->ide that it maybe one of those
[10:42] <net2014> something weird just happened, applications closed and the login screen appeared, then I logged in again, why is that?
[10:43] <Shawn|i7-ubu> oh o.o
[10:43] <Shawn|i7-ubu> this one supports windows 95 and mac os
[10:43] <ikonia> right
[10:43] <ikonia> and you're not using windows 95 of mac os
[10:43] <Shawn|i7-ubu> nor*
[10:43] <net2014> also samba server crashed
[10:43] <net2014> is this something common with linux desktops?
[10:43] <ikonia> net2014: no
[10:43] <Shawn|i7-ubu> and I actually am using windows 95
[10:43] <Shawn|i7-ubu> but that machine doesn't have firewire
[10:44] <ikonia> right, but you're not using windows 95 for this problem
[10:44] <Shawn|i7-ubu> :P
[10:44] <ikonia> eg: you're in ubuntu, using ubuntu
[10:44] <k1l_> net2014: no. better look what happend
[10:44] <net2014> kil_ how do I investigate that?
[10:44] <k1l_> net2014: see syslog in /var/log/
[10:44] <net2014> thanks
[10:45] <Shawn|i7-ubu> not actually using it right now, its just sitting in its carry case
[10:46] <net2014> what are the advantages of using samba as opposed the default network equivalent of ubuntu and windows? better control?
[10:46] <Shawn|i7-ubu> however I do have an 8088 TurboXT hooked up pending a SLIP project
[10:46] <ikonia> net2014: samba is the default
[10:46] <ikonia> net2014: it's really the only way to share file storage between linux/windows
[10:47] <net2014> ikonia, well, it seems that I can connect from windows to ubuntu filesystem and vice versa, but I haven't tried it
[10:47] <ikonia> net2014: right, because of samba
[10:47] <net2014> ikonia, ok
[10:48] <net2014> I mean I can see each pc to the other pc, in the network, without any configuration
[10:48] <Gotham25>  
[10:48] <ikonia> thats just network names
[10:48] <Shawn|i7-ubu> with a full blown CGA Emerson monitor
[10:48] <net2014> ok
[10:49] <Gotham25> dcuntit3d: how to set nomodeset in Ubuntu iso image
[10:49] <ikonia> Shawn|i7-ubu: we don't really need to hear about that in this channel, we use this channel for support discussion
[10:49] <Shawn|i7-ubu> my muscles are aching all over my arms after grinding a gyro exerciser >.<
[10:49] <Shawn|i7-ubu> ah
[10:49] <ikonia> Gotham25: I think it's F6 to pass additional options into the livecd
[10:49] <Gotham25> dcunit3d: how to set nomodeset in Ubuntu iso image
[10:50] <Gotham25> ikonia: if so how to use nomodeset
[10:50] <net2014> I don't get it, why applications closed and I was presented with the log in screen?
[10:51] <net2014> it's a desktop, not head less
[10:51] <net2014> there must be an explanation
[10:51] <ikonia> Gotham25: I think the option is f6
[10:51] <hateball> !nomodeset | Gotham25
[10:52] <ikonia> Gotham25: then you can pass in the argument "nomodeset"
[10:52] <ikonia> net2014: repeating it doesn't help
[10:52] <ikonia> net2014: have you actually investigated or tried to
[10:52] <ikonia> net2014: the most common cause of what you describe is the video card having a problem, so the X server resets
[10:52] <net2014> ikonia, yes, I tried, but I am not sure which logs to look at
[10:52] <ikonia> (the X server is your windows screen)
[10:52] <Gotham25> ikonia: tried to do what
[10:53] <net2014> ikonia, ok
[10:53] <ikonia> net2014: ok - so ask what logs, rather than just repeating how frustrating it is
[10:53] <ikonia> Gotham25: what ?
[10:53] <net2014> ikonia, ok, yes, you are right, what logs then?
[10:54] <ikonia> net2014: the syslog is a good start, as is the Xorg log (more so as I suspect it's a problem with the X server)
[10:55] <Gotham25> ikonia: sorry misunderstood.
[10:56] <net2014> at xorg.log, well, lots of things, closed and then server terminated
[11:00] <yeticry> so hard to get gnome work on my laptop..
[11:00] <yeticry> why hybrid graphics can not run GDM?
[11:00] <net2014> yeticry, did ubuntu recognised all the various components of your laptop without issues?
[11:01] <yeticry> yes, two graphics card
[11:01] <ikonia> yeticry: it will
[11:01] <yeticry> my laptop is Dell
[11:01] <net2014> yeticry, you have two graphics cards? it speeds up graphics intensive programs?
[11:01] <yeticry> model is:
[11:02] <ikonia> net2014: it swaps between intel low power mode, and nvidia high performance mode
[11:02] <net2014> ikonia, I see.
[11:02] <yeticry> intel hd graphics 530 is not work too.
[11:03] <yeticry> model: Ins15P-2748
[11:04] <yeticry> with Intel HD Graphics 530 and NVIDIA 960
[11:10] <hateball> yeticry: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[11:10] <yeticry> Ubuntu 15.10
[11:10] <hateball> yeticry: nvidia 9xx series requires a recent driver, but it should be included in 15.10
[11:10] <hateball> yeticry: did you install the restricted driver using the additional drivers tool?
[11:10] <yeticry> nvidia driver version is most recent in apt-get.
[11:11] <yeticry> i cant run additional driver tools.
[11:11] <yeticry> no graphics environment work
[11:11] <yeticry> can only use the kernel's built-in console
[11:11] <hateball> yeticry: use the ubuntu-drivers tool from cli
[11:11] <yeticry> how?
[11:11] <yeticry> what is the command?
[11:12] <hateball> yeticry: "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" should sort you out
[11:12] <yeticry> BIG THX. i will reboot my laptop and try it.
[11:12] <yeticry> BIGGGG THXXXX.
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> hateball: does that set all drivers to default?
[11:13] <hateball> lotuspsychje: it'll install restricted drivers where needed
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> hateball: nice trick +1 one to remember :p
[11:14] <hateball> lotuspsychje: ubuntu-drivers -h :)
[11:14] <hateball> in case you want to know the options available
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> hateball: yeah i was aware of list and help stuff, but never really look at autoinstall
[11:18] <krypto> i have configured my interfaces in LACP but after the restart ethttool bond0 shows "Speed: Unknown!
[11:18] <krypto>  Duplex: Unknown! (255)" and network is not reachable.In ubuntu 14.04
[11:19] <krypto> any idea?
[11:21] <homa> software for managing camera video ?
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> homa: define managing?
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> krypto: mayne someone in ##networking has a clue?
[11:24] <homa> lotuspsychje,  i see in  " df " command memory 8 gigabyte in camera video but not see 32 gigabyte memory?
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> homa: webcam or camcorder?
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> homa: did you format the memory card?
[11:25] <homa> no first use that
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> homa: you can try gparted it your memory card shows
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | homa gksu gparted from terminal
[11:26] <kapcom01> hello, my laptop hangs on ubuntu loading screen when booting with a kernel newer than 4.2.0-22 and on every reboot I have to manually seelect 4.2.0-22 to boot.
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> kapcom01: ubuntu version and laptop brand?
[11:27] <homa> lotuspsychje, that format is fat
[11:27] <kapcom01> lotuspsychje, Ubuntu 15.10 HP ProBook 4530s
[11:28] <kapcom01> lotuspsychje, 64 bit
[11:28] <homa> what's that gksu
[11:28] <homa> i don't have gparted i have fdisk
[11:32] <homa> ubottu?
[11:35] <Celphish> IT FINALLY WORKS!
[11:36] <Celphish> it was tlp that solved it, finally, phew!
[11:37] <hateball> kapcom01: is BIOS updated?
[11:37] <hateball> we've a fleet of 4530s, had some strange issues with old bios
[11:39] <sidi> I need to port a lib (libzeitgeist-1) to multiarch support. Anyone here got a good tutorial on what needs to be done?
[11:41] <kapcom01> hateball, I have never updated the BIOS.. I have 68SRR Ver. F.29
[11:42] <Muh2> Hi, launcher bar on Ubuntu 15.10 is very slow in response when auto hide is enabled, is there a way to correct this?
[11:44] <baizon> Muh2: try the unity tweak tool
[11:44] <bazhang> Muh2, whats the video card on that, what driver
[11:46] <dbugger> Hello everyone
[11:46] <Celphish> dbugger: yo yo yo to da blang blang!
[11:47] <dbugger> Can someone tell me what is the technical term, for this functionality in Ubuntu, where you drag a window to the edge of the screen, and it shows an overlay, that shows you how it will occupy exactly half of the screen?
[11:47] <dbugger> Celphish, yo yo, man
[11:47] <homa> how can i writeable memory
[11:48] <dbugger> Oh, I found it. Windows snapping
[11:48] <sw0rdy> hey I just booted into a livecd... is it possible to extend the size of the system by using a file in the host's hdd or something?
[11:49] <n00bot> hello, good day everyone.
[11:49] <Celphish> dbugger: maybe you can find the answer if you download compiz configuration manager, it might give some answers
[11:49] <hateball> kapcom01: unless you have windows installed as well, it's can be a pain to upgrade bios
[11:49] <homa> how can i writeable usb?
[11:49] <dbugger> Celphish, that is exactly what I did :)
[11:49] <hateball> kapcom01: if you go into bios, do you have the option to update bios? that should give you instructions for how to do so, if possible
[11:50] <Celphish> sw0rdy: you want to extend the existing systems HDD?
[11:50] <n00bot> I would like to ask if somebody here had experienced some troubles with paddings at 'Application/Places' menus on ubuntu 14.04 gnome-fallback?
[11:50] <Celphish> homa: I'm not sure I understand the question.. can you elaborate?
[11:51] <n00bot> and how did you managed to fix it if you had found a workaround?
[11:51] <sw0rdy> well I want to update ubuntu but it wouldn't let me because its a livecd version of it
[11:51] <sw0rdy> I'm thinking I need more space or something
[11:51] <Celphish> sw0rdy: you want to update the liveCD-ubuntu?
[11:51] <sw0rdy> Celphish, can I install xubuntu on a 8GB usb as a portable system?
[11:52] <hateball> kapcom01: that said, kernel 4.3 (16.04) works the 4530s I have next to me, bios version F.60
[11:52] <kapcom01> hateball, I don't have windows.. I will see what I can do. Thanks.
[11:52] <Celphish> sw0rdy: well, I'm no expert but I find it hard to believe that you can install Ubuntu on a usb-stick that should work with different systems..  that being said, you can install it and use the usb as a systemdrive if I'm not mistaken
[11:53] <n00bot> The images are here. http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4247/muesl2pj_png.htm, http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4247/jrtp633u_png.htm
[11:53] <sw0rdy> hmmmmmmm
[11:55] <sw0rdy> RAWR
[11:55] <homa> how can i write in usb and not recovery that
[11:55] <sw0rdy> there should be a guide on how to install ubuntu to a usb-stick
[11:55] <sw0rdy> and use it as a systemdrive
[11:55] <hateball> kapcom01: you may need to flash a few different versions if I recall correct, from such an old version
[11:56] <p3rror> what is time in this line of crontab
[11:56] <p3rror> 0 16 * * 0 /bin/start.sh
[11:56] <p3rror> sunday at 16:00
[11:56] <p3rror> ?
[11:57] <geirha> yes. There's also an online "translator" for crontab lines
[11:58] <homa> how can i write in usb and not recovery that
[11:58] <geirha> p3rror: http://crontab.guru/#0_16_*_*_0
[11:59] <OerHeks> homa,  can you rephrase that?
[11:59] <Niubbo> hello, may i ask a way to customize a thing in ubuntu 14.04?
[12:00] <p3rror> geirha: thank you
[12:00] <p3rror> great links
[12:01] <homa> OerHeks, i want not recovery data in usb
[12:01] <Niubbo> does anyone know how can i reduce the size of alt tab switcher in ubuntu 14.04? i've found a guide for 13.04 but it doesn't work for the 14.04 (the guide is http://askubuntu.com/questions/323804/how-to-make-alttab-switcher-icons-smaller)
[12:02] <OerHeks> homa, you want to wipe your usb(device), so it cannot be recovered?
[12:02] <homa> OerHeks, yes
[12:02] <hateball> homa: you can use "shred"
[12:03] <hateball> homa: be careful not to shred the wrong device...
[12:03] <OerHeks> indeed, shred is fine, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/17640/how-can-i-securely-erase-a-hard-drive
[12:04] <OerHeks> harddrive or usb, same procedure
[12:05] <manox> help http://dpaste.com/3QYYSHB
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> manox: added a weird ppa?
[12:05]  * OerHeks is waiting for the SSL update
[12:06] <PowerKiller> Can someone help me
[12:06] <PowerKiller> sometimes
[12:06] <PowerKiller> When I open ricochet
[12:07] <hateball> !enter
[12:07] <PowerKiller> it sometimes puts the HDD under 100% load
[12:07] <hateball> ubottu: get real
[12:07] <PowerKiller> and CPU is also at 100%
[12:07] <PowerKiller> screen freezes and I cannot move my cursor
[12:07] <hateball> PowerKiller: Please do type your question on one line
[12:07] <PowerKiller> and sometimes kswapd0 takes 100% of CPU
[12:08] <PowerKiller> When I sometimes open ricochet it puts the HDD at 100% and CPU also at 100% I cannot move my cursor and screen freezes and sometimes also kswapd0 takes 100% of my CPU
[12:08] <sw0rdy> hmmmmmm
[12:08] <PowerKiller> but I'm not sure if it's ricochet or what because I cannot see who's putting the CPU and HDD at 100%
[12:09] <PowerKiller> the screen just freezes
[12:09] <PowerKiller> and if I try to login via CTRL + ALT + F2 it just says "Last login blah blah" and doesn't respond
[12:10] <PowerKiller> can someone justify that
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> PowerKiller: talk to the maintainer of ricochet
[12:11] <edehont> homa: shred overwrites your device 3 times, which is great for magnetic disks, but not needed for flash memory. I'd use "shred -n 0 -z -v /dev/sdXX" to overwrite a flash drive just one time with just zero's.
[12:11] <PowerKiller> he's not active most of the time
[12:11] <PowerKiller> he's only on GitHub
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> PowerKiller: send him an email
[12:12] <sw0rdy> what does a "headless ubuntu server" mean?
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> !server | sw0rdy
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:13] <sw0rdy> lotuspsychje, kind sir, can I use VirtualBox on a ubuntu server edition?
[12:13] <OerHeks> PowerKiller, ricochet is only available for Xenial 16.04 (alfa)
[12:14] <PowerKiller> Xenial ?
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> PowerKiller: ubuntu 16.04, xenial
[12:14] <PowerKiller> I compiled it from source
[12:15] <PowerKiller> I found from a script that Ricochet is using the most memory
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> PowerKiller: its recommended to use package versions, specificly for your ubuntu version
[12:15] <OerHeks> anonymous tor IM, seems it needs a lot of work.
[12:15] <PowerKiller> it's not available for Wily is it
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> PowerKiller: nop
[12:16] <PowerKiller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14687835/
[12:16] <PowerKiller> it spams this
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> PowerKiller: no point to spam this here, unless you install it on 16.04 and join #ubuntu+1
[12:17] <PowerKiller> John Brooks wrote it
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> PowerKiller: then contact him?
[12:18] <PowerKiller> I'll install Xenial in a VM and run Ricochet in that
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> ok
[12:18] <PowerKiller> then join #ubuntu+1 and spam there
[12:18] <PowerKiller> will it be OK
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> PowerKiller: yes
[12:28] <huwjr> i have a hosted txt flie - is it possible to curl for the contents to loop into a bash script?
[12:29] <PowerKiller> huwjr: yup
[12:29] <PowerKiller> curl < URL > | sh -
[12:29] <PowerKiller> and you can make that loop by manipulating sh
[12:30] <huwjr> hero
[12:30] <huwjr> will give it a whirl
[12:30] <homa> how can i change permision usb read-only to writeable ?
[12:36] <edehont> homa: Normally a USB-key is automaticcally mounted read-writable. If you want to overwrite the device file with shred, you have to use sudo.
[12:38] <homa> how can i change permision usb read-only to writeable ? edehont
[12:38] <homa> edehont, i want delete from that?
[12:40] <edehont> homa: another way to clean a usb-key is using the graphical tool Disks (Schijven in Dutch). Choose 'format partition' and overwrite with zero's.
[12:45] <iHeartPotato> has anyone had any trouble with Ubuntu 14.04.3 auto muting and making buzzing and rackly sounds?
[12:55] <bst11> I'm having a problem installing the extension add on for virtual box. any help/
[12:56] <Celphish> bst11: on the VM or the host?
[12:57] <bst11> on the host
[12:58] <bst11> Celphish; on the host
[12:58] <Celphish> bst11: do you need that? I just downloaded Virtualbox and then it worked, nothing else added
[13:01] <bst11> Celphish; i thought i needed it to create a share folder between the host and guess os....
[13:02] <edehont> homa: Doesn't ejecting and remounting the USB-device mount it read-write?
[13:03] <Viraxis> edehont normally it does
[13:03] <Celphish> bst11: naw, you just add a folder, restart the VM and voíla!
[13:04] <teofil> hi
[13:04] <edehont> homa: You could try on the command line: sudo chmod +w /<path to your USB mountpoint>
[13:04] <bst11> Celphish: let me try that
[13:04] <huwjr> can I curl a php page that outputs a CSV?
[13:05] <Viraxis> huwjr yes you can. process everything in the php page, and return the csv data
[13:06] <teofil> ok
[13:06] <edehont> homa: Find the path to your USB mountpoint with the command 'df', 'findmnt', 'lsblk' just to name a few.
[13:07] <homa> edehont : i'm in camera video and not working chmod
[13:08] <edehont> Viraxis: I would think so! I'm not entirely sure what homa is trying to do: remove a file or erase a complete device.
[13:10] <edehont> homa: I thought you were trying to erase a usb drive.
[13:10] <huwjr> realised my problem haha
[13:10] <edehont> homa: I don't know anything about camera's and video.
[13:10] <huwjr> i forgot to create the data the page outputs :D
[13:10] <huwjr> fail
[13:11] <homa> edehont, thank you i'm in company of that
[13:16] <Xano> Is there a way to test whether a graphics card can indeed control a 3820x**** monitor, without being able to hook it up to that monitor? It's about the HD5500, and Intel says it's capable, but I cannot find anything about Linux drivers
[13:16] <ikonia> Xano: if it does it in windows - it does it in linux
[13:17] <homa> shred: /dev/sdc: failed to open for writing: Read-only file system
[13:17] <Xano> ikonia, How so? AFAIK there are completely different drivers for the different platforms?
[13:17] <ikonia> Xano: correct, and intel provide full support for both platforms with open drivers
[13:17] <Xano> ikonia, That explains. Thanks! :)
[13:18] <p3rror> hello
[13:18] <p3rror> what is the value of umask to get files and directory with these permission rwx r-x ---
[13:23] <llutz> p3rror: http://www.webune.com/forums/umask-calculator.html
[13:29] <p3rror> llutz: thank you
[13:31] <oren> Who here uses Ubuntu Touch?
[13:32] <Python2> ikonia: if you ignore the binary blob required to use any of their newer chips
[13:44] <ubuntu665> hi
[13:44] <ubuntu665> i have a question//
[13:44] <ubuntu665> can anybody help me
[13:45] <ubuntu665> i have a question??
[13:45] <homa> how can i create writeable usb
[13:45] <Xano> ubuntu665, Just ask your question. If anyone knows the answer, they'll post it
[13:46] <ubuntu665> I have windows 7 installed on my hard drive.
[13:48] <philinux> homa;~ usually just by formatting
[13:49] <homa> not formatting
[13:51] <homa> philinux, not formmating
[14:01] <vologa> yii shit
[14:14] <welovfree> How can I get rid of this errors: http://prntscr.com/9vxqlb and http://prntscr.com/9vxr1e
[14:16] <pbx> welovfree, click "Show Details" for details.  nobody can troubleshoot the generic warning message
[14:22] <OerHeks> Any sign of the SSL update yet?
[14:25] <regedit> this is good right http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1218046-REG/acer_15_6_v3_575t_7008_aspire_v.html
[14:28] <Guest47215> hello
[14:28] <edehont> homa: use sudo to overwrite a device file
[14:33] <k1l_> OerHeks: i cant find any cve or such released today.
[14:34] <Aniket> Heyo
[14:42] <huwjr> random question - anyone know why I see 99% of all DNS requests to/from zhujiangroad dot com? who the fuck is that
[14:45] <OerHeks> huwjr, mind your language, keep this channel family friendly. why you get dns requests form that url, no idea
[14:48] <kk_drop> is it possible to get boolean result from codeception test?
[14:48] <kk_drop> sorry wrong channel
[14:49] <gregf_> hello
[14:50] <gregf_> im on ubuntu 14:04. i've tried to install swftools. post install im unable to find pdf2swf
[14:51] <timmmaaaayyy> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9289290fa7be45edf47f -- i don't really see anything useful there.  syslog only contains: Jan 28 00:54:21 pakkit01 systemd[1]: Stopped OpenVPN service. & Jan 28 00:54:21 pakkit01 systemd[1]: Starting OpenVPN service...
[14:51] <timmmaaaayyy> anyone now if 15.10 broke openvpn?  i just installed it on a fresh 15.10 box, downloaded a config, and it isn't creating the tun0 interface.  might this be a network manger oddity?  maybe i need some new options in the client config?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> timmmaaaayyy, install netwok-manager-openvpn
[14:53] <BluesKaj> network
[14:53] <timmmaaaayyy> :)  thank you!
[14:54] <OerHeks> gregf_, correct ttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/swftools does not contain pdf2swf and avi2swf, because it relies on xpdf library code, which has a history of security issues. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/swftools/+bug/1086220
[14:54] <OerHeks> gregf_, but if you *want* it, maybe this page is any help https://serverfault.com/questions/623604/install-pdf2swf-on-ubuntu-trusty-tahr14-04/634227
[14:57] <Gamoder_> Hi everyone, can I download something using a specific connection (wlan0 instead of eth0 or vice versa)?
[15:01] <teward> Gamoder_: some applications let you determine what IP address (therefore which interface) to use, but typically for most setups it goes over whichever is the default IP route (see `ip route list` and see which device is listed as default)
[15:06] <medfly> hello, I feel like this may be a good place to ask dumb questions.
[15:06] <medfly> what is ubuntu online accounts?
[15:08] <OerHeks> online accounts is the ubuntu-one followup for one-inlog-service to all the projects, i think.
[15:09] <medfly> is this stuff specific to Ubuntu? it came up because I'm porting evolution-data-server to a weird platform ^^
[15:09] <k1l_> its the online accounts manager for online accounts to be used by email, instant messengers etc.
[15:12] <cfoch> is it okay to set this variable to compile with Python3 in Ubuntu?
[15:12] <cfoch> PYTHON=python3
[15:13] <medfly_> sorry, my client died.
[15:13] <cfoch> http://fpaste.org/315792/93986145/
[15:13] <cfoch> does that look good?
[15:19] <thanzex> Hi everyone! :) I'm fairly new to ubuntu and linux in general, i mainly use win 10, i succesfully installed ubuntu on my usb drive and i'm learning from there, now i want to install it in a partition on my main hd. using the option "install alongside windows does not let me decide where to install it, i have a main windows partition, a 30gb partiti
[15:19] <thanzex> on where i'd like to install ubuntu and some unpartitioned space for over-provisioning (ssd). If i chose that option where will ubuntu install itself?
[15:19] <cfoch> how do I tell Ubuntu to use python as python3 as default?
[15:24] <teward> cfoch: i would avoid that if python2 is the default on your computer now - lots of things depend on python scripts, and if the default is python 3 but it needs python 2 you break a lot of things
[15:24] <cfoch> I want to do this on a sandbox, teward
[15:31] <gregf_> OerHeks: thanks for your reply. sorry was away.
[15:31] <gregf_> oops :|
[15:32] <gregf_> well, it was throwing others errors , so i ran : sudo apt-get purge mysql*
[15:33] <gregf_> and mysql is gone.. client and server
[15:33] <gregf_> also, i get this error: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/guilhem-fr/swftools/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[15:33] <gregf_> that was where i had installed swftools from i think
[15:34] <gregf_> OerHeks: i've already taken a look at the serverfault link you chatted :|
[15:35] <jophish>  
[15:37] <XuCharlieSp84> hello
[15:38] <XuCharlieSp84> i have troubles with my sdcard reader :(
[15:39] <XuCharlieSp84> can someone help me?
[15:39] <XuCharlieSp84> please
[15:39] <ehlo_f1re> hello, I found typo in documentation. Pls where I should report it?
[15:39] <XuCharlieSp84> .....
[15:39] <k1l_> ehlo_f1re: where is that typo?
[15:40] <ehlo_f1re> k1l_: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/newaliases.1.html
[15:40] <OerHeks> gregf_, take a look, https://launchpad.net/~guilhem-fr/+archive/ubuntu/swftools no trusty candidates
[15:40] <ehlo_f1re> k1l_: it should be chapter "11.6" instead "12.6"
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> XuCharlieSp84  simply ask your question, don't ask to ask
[15:40] <ehlo_f1re> k1l_: according to https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/policy.txt
[15:41] <XuCharlieSp84> my sdcard is auto-unmounted when i have to read data from it
[15:41] <loveheartjoylove> Someone here told me about using DD to backup my drive, thanks for that it worked great. My question now is can I use DD to backup the installation I am currently using (/dev/sda (ubuntu) to /dev/sdb (USB drive)) while I'm currently using /dev/sda?
[15:41] <loveheartjoylove> I'd like to backup without a reboot.
[15:42] <loveheartjoylove> without a reboot
[15:42] <k1l_> ehlo_f1re: seems its not in the manpage after 14.04 anyway.
[15:42] <OerHeks> ehlo_f1re, you might want to file a bugreport, but Lucid is EOL long time now. does the typo occur in recent versions? precise,trusty,wily?
[15:42] <k1l_> ehlo_f1re: but you can file a bug report on launchpad for that package
[15:42] <XuCharlieSp84> it starts ok, but if i open a directory with 100 pictures (for example) it starts to show de miniatures and suddenly the system unmount my sdcard
[15:42] <teward> k1l_: it won't get addressed - lucid is EOL
[15:43] <teward> k1l_: it also won't get addressed since 12.04 doesn't have the issue either apparently
[15:43] <OerHeks> loveheartjoylove, i wouldn't do that on a running system, use the liveiso for that ( and do not forget to 'sync'  after DD)
[15:43] <k1l_> lucid is not eol
[15:43] <ehlo_f1re> k1l_: ahh, I didn't thought :]
[15:43] <XuCharlieSp84> i tried with fat32, ntfs and exfat file systems, always the same trouble
[15:43] <teward> k1l_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[15:43] <teward> !lucid | k1l_
[15:43] <XuCharlieSp84> any idea?
[15:43] <teward> k1l_: precise is not EOL, Lucid went EOL last April
[15:43] <k1l_> oh, lucid, yes that is eol
[15:43] <XuCharlieSp84> i check modules, they are ok
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> !precise
[15:44] <k1l_> yeah, i was confused with precise
[15:44] <XuCharlieSp84> and the sdcard works perfect on windows 7
[15:44] <OerHeks> XuCharlieSp84, opening an SD card in miniatures, asks for heavy datatraffic.
[15:44] <k1l_> ehlo_f1re: yeah, 10.04 is dead. and from 12.04 on that is not a bug anymore
[15:45] <XuCharlieSp84> OerHeks: when i'm listening music from sdcard the same think happens
[15:45] <teward> ehlo_f1re: don't bother filing a bug report - it won't get fixed, because Lucid went End of Life in April of 2015; it's no longer supported, and the issue you state is not relevant anymore because that typo is nonexistent in later versions
[15:45] <ehlo_f1re> k1l_: trusty has same typo
[15:45] <XuCharlieSp84> OerHeks: it's a 64Gb card
[15:45] <k1l_> ehlo_f1re: ok, then file it for tursty
[15:45] <k1l_> !bug | ehlo_f1re
[15:46] <teward> ehlo_f1re: consider though that that only applies for the newaliases command from nullmailer.
[15:46] <teward> ehlo_f1re: the postfix one doesn't have that, if you actually look at the newaliases manpage from POstfix
[15:47] <teward> (keep in mind each mail client appears to ship their own newaliases command and manpage, according to the apt-file search I just ran)
[15:47] <XuCharlieSp84> OerHeks: my laptop is 10 years old (toshiba satellite) with a Texas instruments card reader
[15:47] <OerHeks> XuCharlieSp84, with what musicplayer? i know Clementine indexes music with mood-tags.
[15:47] <atlaspaine> hi
[15:47] <atlaspaine> Question: how do I register on IRC?
[15:48] <atlaspaine> Register my usrname that is.
[15:48] <OerHeks> !register
[15:48] <XuCharlieSp84> OerHeks: Audacius
[15:48] <atlaspaine> Thank You!
[15:49] <OerHeks> XuCharlieSp84, not sure about audacius, maybe it pre-reads your music too..
[15:49] <XuCharlieSp84> OerHeks: it's what you said, the card is unmounted when i have a lot of things to read from it
[15:50] <XuCharlieSp84> OerHeks: but it doesn't happen on windows, so the hardware is ok
[15:50] <XuCharlieSp84> and i also check modules, and also ok
[15:50] <XuCharlieSp84> it makes me crazy
[15:50] <XuCharlieSp84> :(
[15:51] <dreadkopp> hey guys. i am trying to get ubuntu on a toshiba baytray tablet. problem is that it's x86 UEFI is not detecting my usb install media. i read that i need to add boot86.efi in /boot but osx is unable to mount the iso / unable to read the stick once i dd'ed the iso to it. is there an image with x86uefi support?
[15:51] <OerHeks> XuCharlieSp84, i have no clue there. any info in /var/log.dmesg ?
[15:51] <XuCharlieSp84> mmm don't know, i'll check it, thanks for your help OerHeks
[15:52] <OerHeks> XuCharlieSp84, you could copy the log to paste.ubuntu.com and copy the url here.
[15:52] <OerHeks> ( so we can have a look with you)
[15:53] <alberto_> hi, i am new member.
[15:53] <XuCharlieSp84> OerHeks: i found some messages refered to the sd card
[15:53] <gregf_> OerHeks: thanks again
[15:53] <OerHeks> hi alberto_ welcome to the ubuntu support channel
[15:53] <gregf_> hmm, no trusty candidates indeed :|. but i need pdf2swf for my application
[15:54] <OerHeks> gregf_, maybe build it yourself from source?
[15:54] <XuCharlieSp84> OerHeks: it's pasted on the webpage
[15:55] <gregf_> OerHeks: well, i can , but i always prefer using the package manager. *unstalling stuff installed from source can be a nightmare*
[15:55] <gregf_> :/
[15:55] <XuCharlieSp84> and.....i don't know how paste.ubuntu.com works....does it send what i paste somewhere where you can read it?
[15:55] <OerHeks> XuCharlieSp84, oke, now post the url here, so we can see.
[15:55] <XuCharlieSp84> OerHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14688898/
[15:56] <OerHeks> oke :-)
[15:56] <XuCharlieSp84> ok, now I understand
[15:56] <XuCharlieSp84> :)
[15:56] <gregf_> OerHeks: ok, thank you
[15:59] <OerHeks> XuCharlieSp84, not sure, ór the sdcard is damaged, or the partition is damaged, but you said it works in windows fine :-(
[15:59] <XuCharlieSp84> yes
[16:01] <XuCharlieSp84> OerHeks: this morning I erase all the data in the card using Format from windows but not the quick one, I make a complete format in exFat
[16:01] <XuCharlieSp84> OerHeks: I should say that it's a mircoSd on a SdAdapter
[16:01] <OerHeks> k1l_, SSL update is here.,. http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2883-1/
[16:02] <OerHeks> XuCharlieSp84, exfat should be fine... good thinking to try to reformat.
[16:02]  * OerHeks searching for clues
[16:03] <ash_workz> this may be a stupid question but what is the default sans-serif font for ubuntu? ie: mac = Helvetica, ms = Arial
[16:03] <butterfly091> Got one of those Transcend SD Card 16 GB. Same i/o error. Now Ubuntu reads as 200 GB. Wants to know if this can be fixed.
[16:07] <homa> d????????? ? ?    ?      ?            ? gvfs    ,   how can i give that permision?
[16:08] <butterfly091> Although, this error appears to be corrupted cards (like inner circuit "as in Google").
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> !details | homa
[16:09] <homa> http://paste.linuxmint.com/view/h8pg
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> homa  no mint here
[16:10] <bishops> hi all, do you know if kactivity crashes with ubuntu 15.10 in general?
[16:10] <rootLow> .user 123
[16:12] <finger> could somebody please tell me what is wrong with http://paste.ubuntu.com/14689000/ ( network config )
[16:13] <finger> it never brings up the vlans
[16:13] <bishops> guys, anyone knows how to sync tomdroid with tomboy notes using dropbox?
[16:13] <tinkode> vuln.txt
[16:13] <tinkode>  join #low all
[16:14] <XuCharlieSp84> OerHeks: could it be the microSdAdapter?
[16:20] <net2014> hello
[16:20] <Aurax0r> hi
[16:20] <net2014> how can I run memtest+? when I boot ubuntu I press shift but nothing happens, I don't get the menu
[16:20] <freecoder> hi. i have been given an assignment to recompile a kernel on Ubuntu 15.10 64-bit without any modifications. now to get kernel sources, sudo apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) does not work for some reason. so i downloaded them from http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/wily/linux. now how do i proceed with extracting the sources?
[16:20] <homa> where can i share picture?
[16:21] <net2014> NOLOSmada1980
[16:21] <net2014> oops sorry
[16:21] <k1l_> homa: imgur.com
[16:23] <nacc> freecoder: i believe there are git trees for all the kernels, which might be easier to use
[16:23] <nacc> freecoder: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/SourceCode
[16:24] <nacc> freecoder: is your assignment to rebuild the 15.10 kernel? or a kernel?
[16:24] <freecoder> nacc can i use the git tree to download sources for the current kernel version i have, instead of the latest one?
[16:24] <nacc> freecoder: that's why the git trees are so large, they have all of the history :)
[16:24] <freecoder> nacc: actually i already downloaded the three source packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/wily/linux
[16:25] <dreadkopp> hey guys. trying to install ubuntu on a toshiba tablet. created install usb with unetbootin and ubuntu 15.10 iso . tablets uefi detects usb stick but instead of grub still booting to windoze :/ any ideas?
[16:25] <homa> http://imgur.com/lWn4q9Y
[16:25] <freecoder> and the internet speed is very slow here. so i would prefer not to download them again
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> homa  what's the ouptut of   cat /etc/issue
[16:26] <k1l_> homa, please ask the mint guys for mint support. they do some things differently so the will know
[16:26] <k1l_> !mint | homa
[16:27] <Rhonda> I'm having troubles getting mysql started after an upgrade.  This is on a precise machine.  How can I debug this further, service mysql start just tells me it failed.
[16:27] <teward> Rhonda: there's a trillion reasons why that could fail, time to grep through your syslogs and the mysql logs to see why it failed to start.
[16:28] <Rhonda> meh, apparmor seems to be the culprit:
[16:28] <Rhonda> kernel: [10133734.034732] type=1400 audit(1453998519.952:57): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" name="/root/.my.cnf" pid=7799 comm="mysqld" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[16:28] <nacc> freecoder: what 3 source packages?
[16:28] <hggdh> freecoder: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[16:28] <Rhonda> Why was it running prior to the package upgrade, and where/how can I dig further for fixing this?
[16:29] <Rhonda> upgrade mysql-server-core-5.5 5.5.46-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 5.5.47-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
[16:29] <Rhonda> So it was from 12.04.1 to 12.04.2 - anyone else got issues with that specific upgrade on precise?
[16:30] <hggdh> Rhonda: the apparmor message states the process is trying to read /root/.my.cnf -- why /root?
[16:30] <XuCharlieSp84> Hi again
[16:31] <XuCharlieSp84> OerHeks: are you overhere?
[16:31] <Rhonda> hggdh: I tried to run mysqld directly, maybe that was wrong, but /etc/init/mysql.conf seems to call it without arguments too somehow?
[16:31] <freecoder> nacc linux_4.2.0-25.30.dsc, linux_4.2.0.orig.tar.gz and linux_4.2.0-25.30.diff.gz
[16:31] <butterfly091> dreadkopp: Try Universal USB Installer instead. Dunno why Unet does not boot these days.
[16:31] <freecoder> hggdh yes i am following instructions on that page only, except sudo apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) fails after some time for me.
[16:32] <Rhonda> Alright, I admit I know nothing about upstart. :)
[16:33] <Pici> freecoder: what does uname -a  actually report?
[16:33] <Rhonda> But even doing HOME=/etc/mysql mysqld doesn't make it start.  It doesn't give that apparmor message, but it still doesn't work.
[16:34] <skrite> Rhonda, what error messages in the error logs are you getting this time?
[16:34] <Rhonda> Hmmm, dpkg --configure -a gives the same message about /root/my.cnf
[16:34] <rdz> hey all. i'm on 14.04 and it seems my entries to /etc/hosts are ignored. how can i make my ubuntu reflect what i configure in /etc/hosts?
[16:34] <hggdh> Rhonda: look at /etc/mysql -- there should be a my.cnf file (possibly a soft link) there
[16:34] <Rhonda> hggdh: There is
[16:34] <Gallomimia> Rhonda: try starting it the normal way, not calling it directly, and THEN look at the error messages
[16:34] <freecoder> Pici: Linux raj-VirtualBox 4.2.0-25-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 18 12:31:50 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:34] <freecoder> i am running it inside virtualbox
[16:34] <Rhonda> Gallomimia: What is the normal way, and where would I find the error messages?
[16:35] <Gallomimia> Rhonda: usually it's service mysql(d?) start
[16:35] <Pici> freecoder: do you have the source repositories enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list file? they should start with deb-src
[16:35] <Gallomimia> the error messages, you're already looking at them
[16:35] <Rhonda> I don't get any when I run service mysql start
[16:35] <Gallomimia> but the message you're looking at is from starting it in strange ways. the stuff you've been doing since you found the problem
[16:35] <Gallomimia> logs.
[16:36] <Rhonda> Ah wait, no, I do.  Different ones.
[16:36] <Gallomimia> let's have a look
[16:36] <Gallomimia> Rhonda: what upgrade did you perform? apt-get dist-upgrade?
[16:37] <Rhonda> Gallomimia: http://paste.debian.net/375182/
[16:37] <Rhonda> yes
[16:37] <Gallomimia> it doesn't say why. time to look at mysql speciic logs
[16:38] <Gallomimia> it's obviously some config problem somewhere. mysql doesn't like what's happening at the start and terminates instead of waiting for connections
[16:38] <Gallomimia> .... and i remember having this problem before
[16:38] <Rhonda> erm, wait.  read it the wrong way.
[16:39] <Rhonda> It was upgrade from 5.5.46 to 5.5.57 according to dpkg log.
[16:39] <Gallomimia> of mysql
[16:39] <mr-rogers> I am using the ubuntu/trusty64 vagrant machine on a windows 10 machine with virtualbox 5.0.10 and I can't seem to get the audio to work because I only have a Dummy Output. I'm able to use the audio on another Precise vagrant machine with the built-in audio. I've tried reinstalling the guest additions and a few other different tutorials to no avail. My host has a AMD HD Audio Device, a Logitech USB Headset, and a Realtek HD Audio.
[16:39] <Rhonda> Puzzled the order in the log. :)
[16:41] <Gallomimia> Rhonda: look in your mysqld logs. and examine some of the configs. the upgrade clearly broke something
[16:41] <Rhonda> Fatal error: cannot allocate memory for the buffer pool
[16:41] <Gallomimia> do you have lots of memory?
[16:41] <Gallomimia> swap space?
[16:41] <Saulo> Hello Guys!! Join https://kiwiirc.com/client?settings=9a7a04058a0ad5e4d35cb36f72bbe655 (WebChat - Ubuntu)
[16:41] <Rhonda> 15G ram, zero swap
[16:41] <Gallomimia> there's probably some free in that
[16:41] <skrite> Rhonda, what is the buffer pool size in your config?
[16:42] <hggdh> freecoder: fails how?
[16:42] <Gallomimia> no thanks Saulo
[16:42] <Pici> Saulo: don't advertise  here.
[16:42] <Rhonda> Gallomimia: Thanks, that was it.  I stopped another service, now mysql started.
[16:43] <Gallomimia> o0 something running in the way?
[16:43] <Saulo> Pici: ok, sorry ¶;(
[16:43] <Rhonda> Started the other service again, crossing fingers.
[16:43] <Rhonda> It's a test system anyway, so I don't care too much.  Thanks for thinking for me, Gallomimia :)
[16:43] <Gallomimia> Rhonda: then you need to change the order they start in?
[16:44] <Rhonda> skrite: key_buffer_size 16M
[16:44] <Gallomimia> welcome rhonda. reading about upstart now might help. there's ways to make it start mysqld before that other service
[16:45] <Rhonda> There are some changes done triggered by some tuningprimer.sh script output.
[16:45] <freecoder> hggdh: it starts downloading the packages but after some time there's error where it says something like connection refused or so. i do not have the log with me.
[16:45] <Rhonda> Gallomimia: I rather not dig into upstart too much but try to upgrade those systems rather sooner than later. :)
[16:46] <Gallomimia> Rhonda: i always get overwhelmed by trying to learn too much. one thing leads to another to another...
[16:46] <hggdh> freecoder: well, if you cannot download the source, there is not much you can do. Try going somewhere where you have a good internet connection
[16:46] <Gallomimia> shouldn't it resume the download auto?
[16:47] <hggdh> Gallomimia: not really, this is apt-get -- after the falure, it ends
[16:48] <Gallomimia> i meant, entering the command again would use any files downloaded already, and resume where it let off?
[16:49] <sudomarize> I'm trying to install python-pip on my ubuntu docker image, but (although i can install python), i can't install python-pip
[16:49] <nicomachus> sudomarize: do you get an error?
[16:49] <sudomarize> nicomachus: it just says it can't find the package
[16:50] <sudomarize> nicomachus: i've had some issues with DNS, where i used not to be able to download apt packages, but i got that fixed
[16:50] <nicomachus> sudomarize: do you ahve the Universe repos enabled in your software sources?
[16:50] <sudomarize> i'm not sure if this is still caused by that DNS problem though
[16:50] <sudomarize> nicomachus: er i'm not sure, how can i enable that?
[16:51] <nicomachus> you can uncomment the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list or you can use the GUI method and go to system settings -> software & updates and check the box
[16:51] <hggdh> Gallomimia: perhaps, I do not know, never had this type of issue
[16:52] <Gallomimia> hggdh: i have, and it resumed.
[16:52] <hggdh> there you go, then :-)
[16:52] <freecoder> hggdh i have download these three packages - linux_4.2.0-25.30.dsc, linux_4.2.0.orig.tar.gz and linux_4.2.0-25.30.diff.gz from http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/wily/linux. will it help?
[16:53] <Rhonda> Gallomimia: Exactly that.  Thus I rather try to upgrade as soon as possible to systemd so that I can forget about upstart and not need to dig too deep. ;)
[16:55] <pesari> freecoder: look at dpkg-source
[16:55] <pesari> freecoder: or dget
[16:56] <wurde> if i make install git manually why doesn't dpkg recognize that git is installed? I have the atom package that depends on git, but doesn't recognize it's installed.
[16:57] <nacc> wurde: because you didn't use a package? dpkg only knows about packages? by 'make install' do you mean you installed it from source?
[16:57] <wurde> yes source.
[16:57] <wurde> is there a hack that i can fake a git package is installed.
[16:57] <nacc> wurde: how would dpkg know about it?
[16:57] <wurde> because it's available to any dependencies.
[16:58] <akik> wurde: you can use checkinstall to create a deb package of the git source install
[16:58] <freecoder> pesari: thanks, i guess this is what i needed
[16:58] <wurde> ill look into checkinstall
[16:58] <akik> wurde: there might be bugs with it. somebody wasn't able to make it work yesterday
[17:03] <ralpheeee> o/ is there any adv installing ubuntu mini install over arch....
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> ralpheeee  #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:04] <ralpheeee> MonkeyDust: ok thxs!
[17:14] <thecyclone> please suggest some cool themes for ubuntu 14.04
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> !themes | thecyclone
[17:16] <thecyclone> thanks MonkeyDust
[17:17] <LambdaComplex> thecyclone: If you don't care about it being overused due to its popularity, I'd suggest the Numix icon sets
[17:17] <ihatemypc> they deserve an award for having the same bug for so long on so many versions. both my netbooks have the same bug. I am amazed.
[17:18] <LambdaComplex> ihatemypc: Numix?
[17:18] <ihatemypc> independent releases have the same bug as well. I will never have a net book running linux ever again
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> ihatemypc  who's 'they'?
[17:19] <ihatemypc> the aliens who wrote the code for power management and mouse input
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> ihatemypc  what bug? start from the beginning, what brings you here
[17:19] <thecyclone> what ails thou ihatemypc
[17:20] <ihatemypc> i have 3 mice they all cut out randomly
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> ihatemypc  asketh and thou shalt be answered
[17:20] <LambdaComplex> Wireless?
[17:20] <ihatemypc> ubuntu mate does it, lubuntu does it, peppermint os did it
[17:20] <ihatemypc> nope 1 wireless 2 wired
[17:20] <ihatemypc> also
[17:21] <ihatemypc> this is on two separate netbooks
[17:21] <thecyclone> ihatemypc: elaborate!
[17:21] <ihatemypc> i have an MSI u180 i have tried 3 different versions of ubuntu at least
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> ihatemypc  MS, as in in microsoft?
[17:22] <ihatemypc> and a samsung n110
[17:22] <ihatemypc> MSI the ones who do the motherboards i think they put out this MSI netbook
[17:22] <ihatemypc> but the mouse bug is on both netbooks
[17:23] <ihatemypc> its amazing how persistent this thing is
[17:23] <wyrm_88_> part
[17:24] <ihatemypc> the powermanager might be causing it but i don't have laptop-power-tools or whatever its called
[17:24] <axk4545> how can I easily migrate to ubuntu from Fedora? ie packages, settings, etc. I have a separate /home but it is on LVM
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> ihatemypc  have you tried another mouse?
[17:25] <ihatemypc> all ive heard is if you have the lid closed on a netbook with the battery removed. using an external screen it will HATE you mouse, whatever mouse.
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> axk4545  fedora is red had based, ubuntu is debian based, so not easily, i guess
[17:25] <ihatemypc> your*
[17:25] <LambdaComplex> ihatemypc: heck, try something that isn't ubuntu
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> red hat*
[17:25] <LambdaComplex> ihatemypc: could be it's an ubuntu-only bug. try debian. try fedora
[17:26] <thecyclone> ihatemypc: try debian
[17:26] <thecyclone> i think it is most stable and bug free
[17:26] <ihatemypc> ive never used actual debian
[17:27] <ihatemypc> fedora looks like... i dunno. Like Mint or Suse a lot of guff I don't get.
[17:27] <axk4545> ihatemypc: it isn't that hard.
[17:28] <ihatemypc> i might have to. its been four weeks without doom or unreal tournament.
[17:30] <k1l_> ihatemypc: so can you summarize the info, the errormessages and the solutions tried  without all the ranting?
[17:31] <k1l_> ihatemypc: so far it sounds like an issue from resume from standby.
[17:32] <k1l_> then make sure that the modules are loaded properly. some hardware is that slow on resume, they are not available when the module gets loaded and so the module is not working
[17:34] <ihatemypc> ill try to get the terminal to spit out something but my best guess is that having the battery removed, lid closed and the netbook outputting to external monitor only makes using a usb or wireless mouse near impossible.
[17:35] <ihatemypc> and ive got a fresh updated install of Ubuntu Mate.
[17:35] <k1l_> i dont know what battery removing, external monitor have to do with that
[17:36] <ihatemypc> from what ive found online it apparently triggers something that keeps cutting of the mouse.
[17:37] <ihatemypc> i never put my laptop into standby or suspend so... its just weird.
[17:41] <unixninjax> my nfs server had this in dmesg — XFS: possible memory allocation deadlock in kmem_alloc (mode:0x250)
[17:41] <unixninjax> and no clients could connect
[17:41] <unixninjax> anyone seen that before?
[17:42] <unixninjax> I had to do this to get it back in normal state —  echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[17:42] <LostSoul_> Hi
[17:42] <LostSoul_> I'm getting exim4 error Unrouteable address
[17:42] <LostSoul_> Any idea how to dig more into it?
[17:43] <dreadkopp> hey guys. still trying to install ubuntu... get it to boot the kernel but then i get (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system ...
[17:43] <dreadkopp> how to get on from this state?
[17:43] <k1l_> dreadkopp: on what OS you made the ubuntu-usb?
[17:44] <andrew_> what would be correct format to add a script like u-boot environment? setenv factory_boot tftpboot 0x3000000 vmlinux.gz.uImage;bootm 0x3000000 . If I add it like that, id does not save the part after the ;
[17:44] <andrew_> ups
[17:44] <andrew_> wrong channel :)
[17:45] <dreadkopp> k1l_ osx ... created a guid fat32 formated stick. copied ubuntu.iso contents there, created a /EFI/boot/ folder and added bootia32.efi to it. then from grub commandline i load the /boot/grub/loopback.cfg and start 'Try ubunut'
[17:46] <k1l_> dreadkopp: just use "dd" and put that onto the bare usb (like /dev/sdb not sdb1)
[17:46] <ihatemypc> what power manager does ubuntu mate use on a fresh install?
[17:46] <ss942> I want to burn iso image on pendrive, than to boot this pendrive
[17:46] <k1l_> ss942: what OS are you running now?
[17:47] <ss942> k1l_: I'm on ubuntu now
[17:47] <dreadkopp> k1l_ : cant do that since ubuntu.iso is not containing any bootia32.efi ... without it it won't boot on the tablet.
[17:47] <k1l_> ss942: then use dd in terminal or the ubuntu startdisk creator
[17:47] <dlam> is upstart like better than systemd or something?    (i'm trying to set up / daemonize this task queue thingy called celery and trying to figure out how to do it :D)
[17:48] <k1l_> dreadkopp: well. you didnt say its for a microsoft tablet that is only using the rubbish 32bit uefi
[17:48] <dreadkopp> yeah... toshiba toblet.. but there must be a way :)
[17:49] <ss942> k1l_: I found out that I have to use dd if=/path/to/WindowsXP.iso of=/dev/sd* bs=4;sync
[17:49] <ss942> but i don't know
[17:49] <ss942> how to determine what * should be
[17:49] <k1l_> ss942: that doesnt work with windows isos
[17:49] <k1l_> ss942: run "sudo parted -l" and see what device your usb stick is.
[17:50] <dreadkopp> ss942: format usb as fat32 and copy windows.iso contents there :)
[17:51] <django_> hey all
[17:51] <dreadkopp> there must be a way to start the live image from busybox fallback?
[17:51] <django_> is there a way of moving things from one workspace to another
[17:51] <dreadkopp> your mouse?
[17:53] <FrameFever> what is the default shell in ubuntu?
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> bash
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> (bourne again shell)
[17:56] <psyferre> Hey folks.  I've got an x86 ubuntu server that needed an OS update.  I did do-release -update (cleared out old kernels after it complained of low space in /boot), and it finished fine.  On reboot, I get "no such device" errors and no grub menu.  In rescue mode I can see all my data.  /boot is completely empty.  I edited fstab to change the uuid of /boot to /dev/sda1, and /boot looks normal.  Rebooting still yields the same error.
[17:56] <docmur> How do I use public key authentication and google authenticator.  I can use Google Auth when I do a stright password based login, but now I want it to use GA with the public key, is that possible?
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> psyferre  if you don't get an answer here, there's alos #ubuntu-server
[18:04] <psyferre> MonkeyDust: Ah, right.  I always forget that.   Thanks - that's a much better place for this question.
[18:05] <lyze> psyferre, I mean you could boot into a live cd and update grub from there
[18:05] <LostSoul_> I'm getting exim4 error Unrouteable address any idea how to debug it?
[18:06] <Bassem> it there way to reset ubuntu to time when it been installed 14.04
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  whatever you try, backup first
[18:07] <HamRadio> Bassem, depends on what you need
[18:07] <HamRadio> Bassem, if you want to just reset it, then just re-install
[18:08] <HamRadio> But don't format you /home partition
[18:08] <psyferre> lyze: update-grub complains that /boot/grub doesn't exist... which is true at the moment.  I just tried remounting /boot from /dev/sda1 and via UUID in fstab.  Neither way shows anything in /boot now.
[18:08] <Bassem> HamRadio, no other way than re-install
[18:08] <HamRadio> Well you can purge all your PPA's
[18:11] <HamRadio> Bassem, purge all your PPA's and that will revert everything back
[18:11] <HamRadio> But not system files
[18:11] <HamRadio> If your system is broke, then yeah, you will have to re-install
[18:11] <Bassem> HamRadio, how im new to ubutnu
[18:12] <deolinda> hi all, I am trying to use a usb-vodafone-internet, and is not detected.. already try some old tutoriais 5 years old, but no positive results
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> deolinda  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[18:13] <dreadkopp> those adapters are mostly rubbish and just come with win98-xp drivers :P can'T you use simply wifi + smartphone wifi tethering?
[18:14] <deolinda> MonkeyDust: ^[[1~Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[18:14] <HamRadio> Bassem, go so software and click on the tab other software
[18:14] <HamRadio> and remove all your PPA's
[18:14] <HamRadio> Then do a sudo apt update
[18:16] <HamRadio> Bassem, then do a sudo apt dist-upgrade
[18:17] <dreadkopp> ...or simply install fresh ubuntu and not format /home ?
[18:18] <HamRadio> that's what I said eirlier dreadkopp
[18:18] <Silenced> I am not seeing any messages from this group
[18:18] <Silenced> Why is that ?
[18:18] <OerHeks> HamRadio, i would not ruin his system like that, just removing sources is not going to give a clean system. use ppa-purge to reverse packages, else it will result in an unusable system sometime.
[18:18] <kid4coding> heja
[18:18] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[18:19] <k1l_> Silenced: which group?
[18:20] <Silenced> hello ?
[18:20] <Silenced_v2> Yes
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> Silenced  what brings you here
[18:21] <k1l_> !test | Silenced_v2
[18:21] <Silenced_v2> I can't see my message from this group alone
[18:21] <Silenced_v2> I mean in my laptop that's running irssi
[18:21] <k1l_> which group?
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> Silenced  what do you mean by 'this group'
[18:21] <Silenced_v2> I am using Mobile now
[18:21] <Silenced_v2> This refers #ubuntu
[18:22] <kid4coding> Gents
[18:22] <k1l_> Silenced_v2: use alt+right arrow  to get to the channel you want
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> Silenced_v2  this is ubuntu support, sure you have to be here?
[18:22] <kid4coding> I am wondering if the Ubuntu Dev team has over-complicated the installation of Apache and PHP5
[18:22] <Silenced> I can send messages , but i cant what you guys send
[18:22] <k1l_> kid4coding: i dont think so.
[18:23] <k1l_> Silenced: so you messed with the settings? did you use /ignore?
[18:23] <kid4coding> k1l_:  I am finishing the installation
[18:23] <Silenced_v2> k1l_ yes :D
[18:27] <Giglio> hi
[18:28] <Giglio> who can hel me with teering on ubuntu 15.40
[18:28] <Giglio> 10*
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> Giglio  what goes wrong?
[18:30] <Silenced> !test|Silenced
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> Giglio  keep it in the channel
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> Giglio  no pm
[18:31] <Giglio> a have tearing when i use os
[18:31] <Giglio> when i scrool the page on web ore whatch some move
[18:33] <Temper> my boot drive is full but every time i try to uninstall something apt-get bails on unmet dependencies
[18:34] <Bassem> HamRadio, what do you mean so software
[18:34] <kid4coding> If I was managing a the web server at the hosting company
[18:34] <dreadkopp> Giglio: hardware ? monitor ? used drivers ?
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> Temper  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597742/
[18:34] <kid4coding> how could I manage to forward each dns request to a different folder where I have multiple sites
[18:35] <Giglio> one moment
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> kid4coding  running a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[18:37] <kid4coding> MonkeyDust: thank you
[18:37] <Gallomimia> kid4coding: that's called virtualHosts in apache
[18:37] <Temper> lol.. i aqm guessing that MonkeyDust just gave me a program that crashes my server :)
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> Temper  i've been using it as a routine for over two years now
[18:38] <Temper> really ubuntu should not have an autoupdates option that fills the /boot
[18:38] <k1l_> Temper: remove manually the old kernel files from /boot. then let apt-get run its updates. then remove the packages from the old kernel you removed manually
[18:38] <Temper> MonkeyDust: i am not worried it is just a NAT firewall server.. i can rebuild the whole thing pretty quickly
[18:39] <Temper> k1l_: won't that mess up the grub config?
[18:39] <Temper> because doesn't it have a boot option for each old kernel?
[18:39] <Gallomimia> well, no. it'll fix itself.
[18:39] <Gallomimia> you'll run apt-get autoremove once you have space to work with.
[18:39] <k1l_> Temper: that is the easiest way
[18:40] <k1l_> Temper: please pastebin a "df -h" and a "ls -al /boot"
[18:40] <Gallomimia> but i agree. autoupdates should never fill up /boot. autoremoves if they're using the easy-gui-method
[18:41] <Temper> http://pastebin.com/uAghYcEz
[18:41] <Giglio> driver=i915 latency=0 Core Processor Integrated Graphics intel i5 660 3.30GZ   Monitor LG ips237l 1920x1080 60Gz
[18:41] <Temper> there is some free space as i deleted some vmlinuz files
[18:42] <Gallomimia> yep. 94%
[18:42] <Gallomimia> sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:42] <Gallomimia> try that
[18:42] <k1l_> 15mb might not be enough
[18:42] <netameta> anyone knows how to install uinput
[18:42] <Gallomimia> !uinput
[18:42] <Gallomimia> !find uinput
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> !find uinput
[18:43] <Bassem> HamRadio, go so software and click on the tab other software <<[18:43] <k1l_> Temper: remove some old initrd files to make space. then run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade". then remove the "linux-image-..." packages from the kernels you removed manually
[18:44] <dreadkopp> Giglio: i915 is pretty slow you might consider a small dedicated GPU when running 1080p reolution
[18:44] <Temper> lol.. so this is the default behavior with default install options with "auto updates" installed?
[18:45] <bazhang> Temper, did you manually partition
[18:45] <Temper> nope
[18:45] <Giglio> ok ty for help
[18:45] <k1l_> Temper: there is a missmatch of a non working post-install remove skript and a too small /boot.
[18:45] <dreadkopp> Giglio: try adding this to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:45] <bazhang> Temper, whats the size of /boot
[18:46] <dreadkopp> Section "Device"
[18:46] <dreadkopp>    Identifier  "Intel Graphics"
[18:46] <dreadkopp>    Driver      "intel"
[18:46] <dreadkopp>    Option      "AccelMethod" "sna"
[18:46] <dreadkopp>    Option      "TearFree" "true"
[18:46] <Temper> ~240mb
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> dreadkopp  use a pastebin for multiple lines
[18:46] <Temper> it's a vm with ~10gb hd
[18:46] <Giglio> i use ghnome
[18:46] <Temper> full-upgrade is running
[18:46] <bazhang> Temper, an auto install does not create that afaik
[18:46] <Giglio> x11 folder dont exist
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> dreadkopp  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:47] <Temper> bazhang: i mean installing by hand but just clicking next -next on the ubuntu installer
[18:47] <dreadkopp> Giglio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14690107/
[18:47] <Temper> and it does create a partition for /boot
[18:47] <Temper> and it is based on a percentage of whole hd
[18:47] <bazhang> Temper, its a vm, and is it set to expand dynamically or not
[18:47] <Temper> no..
[18:48] <bazhang> ok
[18:48] <Temper> and i mean i create the vm disk with a "logical" size of 10gb
[18:48] <Temper> i mean i would have made it bitter but it just routes internet for the office
[18:48] <dreadkopp> Giglio: open terminal and type: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:48] <Temper> igger
[18:48] <Temper> BIGGER lol
[18:49] <Giglio> bash: cd/x11: No such file or directory
[18:50] <k1l_> Temper: just do the way i described. stockpiling kernels is a bad idea when you seperate /boot
[18:50] <OerHeks> Giglio, capital X
[18:50] <Temper> lol i didn't stockpile kernels.. i only turned on autoupdates
[18:50] <Temper> which i figured would be a good idea since it is a firewall
[18:52] <Apoc-GoD> Hello, i'm looking for some help with installing an SSL Certificate with Apache2 on Ubuntu 15.10 Server
[18:53] <Giglio> capital X what do you min?
[18:53] <dreadkopp> its /etc/X11/xorg.conf not /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[18:53] <Temper> lol.. this is why you don't just copy code the the internet
[18:54] <Temper> i managed to uninstall all the kernels.
[18:54] <OerHeks> Apoc-GoD, seen the guides ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSSL and https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/certificates-and-security.html
[18:55] <Apoc-GoD> Let me take a look real quick
[18:56] <helped7283> Hello, i cant log intu Mate which i installed before i removed unity. There is no unity sign next to the user input field to choose anything.
[18:56] <Temper> is 3.19.0-47 what i should be running?
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> helped7283  tried rebooting, first?
[18:57] <Temper> ls
[18:57] <dreadkopp> Temper : i would suggest just installing the latest :)
[18:58] <helped7283> Monkeydust of course. Nothing
[18:58] <Temper> lol.. is that the latest?
[18:59] <dreadkopp> sudo apt-get install linux should do the trick :)
[19:00] <Temper> nope :P and i don't think i want to install 4.4 which kernel.org says is the latest stable
[19:00] <dreadkopp> why not?
[19:00] <helped7283> I tried to remove and reinstal mate which also did nothing
[19:00] <Temper> usually bad to jump major revisions on a distribution
[19:01] <Python2> nope
[19:01] <Python2> I would rather trust the kernel devs than the distro devs managing to correctly backport all the security fixes
[19:01] <dreadkopp> ^
[19:02] <Temper> i suppose.. but if it isn't in the repos then I'd have to compile it all
[19:02] <Temper> and if i wanted to do that i'd go to the dentist
[19:03] <dreadkopp> is your cpu that slow?
[19:03] <Temper> no..
[19:04] <dreadkopp> also why don't just use a prebuild one?
[19:04] <Temper> i got X5680
[19:05] <Temper> actually 2x of them
[19:05] <dreadkopp> building a kernel on my x5650 @ 4 Ghz takes about 10 mins... but you run a 12 core system as a firewall? bit over the top, isn't it?
[19:05] <Temper> but if i wanted to manage the kernel like that - i'd install arch linux as the firewall
[19:05] <Temper> actually the firewall is a vm on a xenserver
[19:06] <Temper> using a dedicated nic only bound to the firewall vm
[19:06] <helped7283> What can i do now? How to add mate to the login?
[19:06] <ikonia> Temper: is there a rason you're not using the kernel packages provided by ubuntu ?
[19:06] <charas_> You guys use any external website/server monitoring service with a commandline applicatin?
[19:06] <ikonia> or have I missunderstood what you're saying
[19:07] <Temper> ikonia: i am they are telling me i shouldn't
[19:07] <ikonia> Temper: who is and why ?
[19:07] <Temper> ^^^ scroll up and read
[19:08] <Temper> if i am not back in 90 seconds it means i broke the boot on this vm..
[19:09] <Temper> lol things are a lot more polished than there were 10 years ago..
[19:11] <Temper> I am surprised someone didn't tell me what a horrible idea it is to run the firewall on the same server as all my data in a vm on xenserver using a dedicated nic on the server..
[19:11] <avenger> n sfce fast
[19:12] <ikonia> Temper: up to you what you do
[19:12] <avenger> someone help i need larm of xfce fast
[19:12] <avenger> alarm on
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> Temper  maybe the people in #ubuntu-server would have told you that
[19:12] <ikonia> alarm ?
[19:12] <Temper> ikonia: true but you usually get someone telling you what ya should do.
[19:12] <cmh-fn> i would be interested in that too charas_
[19:12] <avenger> someone help I need alarm of xfce fast
[19:12] <ikonia> avenger: you need alarm ?
[19:12] <ikonia> avenger: what do you mean
[19:13] <cmh-fn> oh, maybe someone in #ubuntu-server would know charas_
[19:13] <Temper> i doubt they could get into the xenserver over the internet ip port - the xenserver management interfaces are not bound to that port
[19:13] <dreadkopp> someone might tell me how to start the ubuntu install from the initramfs busybox?
[19:13] <ikonia> dreadkopp: you can't
[19:13] <ikonia> it doesn't really work like that
[19:14] <avenger> I need some music to play at a specified time
[19:14] <dreadkopp> darn....
[19:14] <dreadkopp> avenger: cronjob
[19:15] <avenger> How do i schedule task in xfce?
[19:15] <lyze> crontab -e
[19:16] <dreadkopp> ikonia: why wont it work... i have access to install USB, mounted it at /tmp/mnt there must be a way to continue from here ?
[19:16] <lyze> avenger, and here for the time generation http://crontab-generator.org/
[19:16] <ikonia> dreadkopp: why are you doing this
[19:16] <ikonia> it's not as simple as just typing "start ubuntu"
[19:17] <dreadkopp> sure... but there must be some way to load the liveimage and chroot into it?
[19:18] <dreadkopp> dont know why i get thrown to busybox in the first place (no live image found)
[19:18] <ikonia> dreadkopp: manually run through the whole boot up process, making sure all the pre-reqs are met from the pre-boot enviornment
[19:18] <shanester> Hey guys, I had a couple questions, but I don't want to break any rules or upset anyone, is this the proper room to ask questions?
[19:18] <ikonia> dreadkopp: right - so I suggest you look at fixing that, rather than this manual attempt
[19:18] <ikonia> if it's dropping to busy box - something is wrong
[19:18] <ikonia> so you'll waste your time trying to manually do what has failed automatically
[19:18] <lyze> !ask | shanester
[19:19] <Temper> shanester: nice work on not breaking any rules :)
[19:19] <lyze> Hehe
[19:19] <Temper> !patience
[19:19] <ikonia> shanester: if you need ubuntu help, this is the right place
[19:19] <ikonia> Temper: he was being patient and polite
[19:19] <shanester> Question 1: I have a kernel module that requires
[19:19] <Temper> !supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
[19:20] <shanester> Question 1: I have a kernel module that requires kernel 3.19.0-15-generic and I don't have the source.  Is is possible to dist-upgrade and still use that module or do I need to get it recompiled?
[19:20] <dreadkopp> ikonia: it's a x86uefi tablet all i did was to copy ubuntu.iso contents to usb stick, copy bootia32.efi to /EFI/boot/ and then from grub shell starting with configfile (hd0,gpt2)/boot/grub/loopback.cfg .... no idea why it fails automatically...
[19:20] <ikonia> dreadkopp: is that the right way to make a bootable stick
[19:22] <dreadkopp> the only one that works... since dd'ing the iso will make the stick inaccessible to changes and i need to add the bootia32.efi
[19:22] <elijah> Just got some updates earlier and my control modifier keys are not working in some cases. Anyone else report this issue recently?
[19:23] <dreadkopp> damn i guess it's trying to mount by label which is different due the fact i didn'T dd it..... arg
[19:26] <gerardo> hello people!
[19:27] <compdoc> hello departer!
[19:27] <e-vent> Anyone know how to list the current spin down time of a drive
[19:27] <e-vent> udisks2 and hdparm aren't being helpful
[19:28] <compdoc> cant say Ive ever seen a drive have that statistic
[19:29] <e-vent> Well it does since you can set it with hdparm
[19:31] <Girly> Hello folks. I am using WinSCP SSH client to log into my server. My server has no mouse, keyboard, or monitor. It is running wireless right now talking to my router 192.168.***.*** I installed PuTTy SSH on my Windows Box and it has a better interface that WinSCP, however, I logged with PuTTy sudo su - and am now root. I cannot chmod or chown into the server correctly to just drag and drop or copy and paste without permissions in /var/ww
[19:33] <davidic657> hi whats the op channel
[19:33] <ikonia> #ubuntu-ops
[19:33] <davidic657> ha
[19:34] <axk4545> how can I set ubuntu to only recieve security updates?
[19:35] <e-vent> Girly, what is the problem? That is normal.
[19:35] <e-vent> File system is normally not writable or editable by a non root user not in their own homne directory
[19:36] <Girly> I am beginning to think it has to do with sudoers file. Is there a command to set the file without using vi or vim which the research says: johndoe ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL        ?
[19:37] <davidic657> lol ikonia has serious issues
[19:38] <davidic657> watch
[19:38] <e-vent> Girly, what are you trying to do?
[19:38] <Girly> I never associated my login name johndoe with any group or the sudoers.
[19:39] <e-vent> What are you trying to do?
[19:39] <samy__> I am This is the output of my dmesg http://sprunge.us/iOWH.The errors are at 7.726 sec,8.06 sec,8.22 sec.Its an incompatibility with my graphic card i guess. How can i resolve these errors?
[19:40] <dreadkopp> paste not working
[19:40] <sweetlew> Hello. Does anybody know when ubuntu-mate 16.04 Alpha 2 is coming out? I thought it was supposed to be today, but I could be mistaken.
[19:40] <Girly> I want to just SSH or Tunnel into my Ubuntu Box and easily copy and paste and keep seccurity with /var/www directory without seeing permissions denied all of the time and then somehow chown and leave the box vulnerable.
[19:40] <samy__> http://sprunge.us/iOWH
[19:40] <e-vent> Choose a user to use
[19:40] <k1l_> sweetlew: there was some discussion if they want alphas at all. but better ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:41] <e-vent> add that user to a group called www
[19:41] <e-vent> if that group doesnt exist make it
[19:41] <Girly> If I have updates to my web pages, I would like to make it easy and not a complicated chown and chmod thing every time.
[19:41] <e-vent> then chown the directory www-data:www
[19:41] <e-vent> with permissions 774
[19:42] <e-vent> use : sudo chown -R www-data:www
[19:42] <sweetlew> k1l: Ok.
[19:42] <e-vent> sudo chmod -R 774 /var/www
[19:42] <e-vent> you can choose the group name and the user name just make sure you match the permissions
[19:42] <e-vent> Do you understand basic permissions?
[19:43] <e-vent> i.e. what 774 means?
[19:43] <e-vent> Because you may desire 770
[19:43] <Girly> I am working on it e-vent.
[19:43] <e-vent> Yeah, but do you understand what the digits mean?
[19:43] <e-vent> i.e. the difference between a 7 4 and a 0
[19:44] <zanin> 111 - 111 - 111 -> 7 - 7 - 7
[19:44] <e-vent> !permissions
[19:44] <zanin> root - group - user
[19:44] <e-vent> Not root
[19:44] <e-vent> Root has access anyway
[19:44] <zanin> 101 - 110 -100 -> 5-6-4
[19:44] <zanin> owner
[19:45] <e-vent> indeed
[19:45] <zanin> sorry
[19:45] <dreadkopp> that doesn't add up :) 111 - 222 - 444 -> 777 think bin ;)
[19:45] <e-vent> dreadkopp, I never even try to think of em like that :)
[19:46] <e-vent> It's binary in reality
[19:46] <e-vent> either you have the permission for each option or you dont
[19:47] <e-vent> i.e. 777 really means 111 111 111
[19:47] <e-vent> aka
[19:47] <e-vent> rwx rwx rwx
[19:47] <e-vent> 1 for yes you can
[19:48] <e-vent> 0 for no you cant
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> e-vent  spare the enter key
[19:48] <e-vent> If I used punctuation those would be sentences, besides why exactly? It's easier to read.
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> e-vent  one line is easier to repeat
[19:49] <dreadkopp> is there some baytrail ubuntu iso anywhere?
[19:50] <Girly> Thanks e-vent for that info. If there is anything else you have for me to try please explain. Thanks :)
[19:50] <e-vent> dreadkopp, assuming it is x86 then yes
[19:50] <e-vent> Girly, assuming you set the appropriate user and group. Have the user in the appropriate group, you will be able to use WinSCP without any issues.
[19:51] <dreadkopp> normal i368 iso doesn't come with bootia32.efi so its not detected by the tablet :/
[19:51] <e-vent> ew.
[19:52] <dreadkopp> yeah.... :(
[19:52] <Girly> e-vent now I think I know my problem. I did not pre-set the group or users. This is not like the old Linux Red Hat I used to use. Just click on a button and it did all of the permissions in  the GUI.
[19:52] <e-vent> Well, it would be the same I would think. The web directory is almost never has a group set other than www-data
[19:53] <e-vent> which may or may not exist
[19:53] <e-vent> I've never seen any user be in that group by default so you wouldn't have permissions to write or execute in the web directory
[19:54] <e-vent> For me my web directory is root:root
[19:54] <e-vent> So you'd need to add a group and yourself to it, then add the group to the folder and set the right permissions
[19:55] <dreadkopp> your apache / nginx runs as root ?
[19:55] <Girly> In those days it was called Super User and you could just click on with Red Hat 7 a button in the GUI mode and it worked. I totally understand security issues and I also have read why setting up groups along with users creates a better insurance of security for the box or server.
[19:55] <sausaqes> e-vent: good.. dreadkopp not all. Only the foolish
[19:56] <e-vent> good?
[19:56] <e-vent> Apache should be running as www-data normally
[19:56] <Girly> most of the command for Ubuntu now is sudo commands.
[19:56] <e-vent> Running it as root is asking to have your box hacked.
[19:57] <Girly> e-vent my apache server is running perfectl
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> Girly  for anything outside /home, you need sudo
[19:57] <e-vent> Or to have re-set the permissions
[19:57] <Girly> The linux box is on a wireless home network for now.
[19:58] <sausaqes> MonkeyDust: only a stooge uses root for web
[19:58] <Girly> 192.168.***.***
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> sausaqes  true, it is not advised here
[19:58] <e-vent> Nor does it do that by default, it uses www-data
[19:59] <Girly> MonkeyDust sausages sent me this message:  <sausaqes> e-vent is talking shit. And your face is the toilet. You assface
[19:59] <sausaqes> e-vent: What if you want to set up a directory that's a upload directory in web. Girly
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> Girly  use /ignore if needed
[20:01] <Girly> I think because the way he or it is talking that way is because his/her mother ignored it.
[20:01] <e-vent> Yeah, I'd assume he's having a bad day or is a poor troll since he called me stupid and a nigger.
[20:01] <e-vent> Go back to 4chan.
[20:01] <Girly> Go back to the womb and come out the right way.
[20:02] <ikonia> ok - drop it please
[20:02] <ikonia> back to the help
[20:05] <Girly> can someone stop sausages his messages are: <sausaqes> I fucking. Said. Drop. It. You. Fucking. Jerk.
[20:05] <xangua> Girly: same goes to you
[20:05] <k1l_> Girly: i already removed that known troll. if he continues you need to report to #freenode to the staff
[20:05] <bekks> Girly: Can you stop repeating that in here too? :)
[20:05] <le_pig> ah, the internet
[20:06] <e-vent> Girly, in your client put in /ignore sausaqes
[20:06] <Girly> done e-vent   thanks guys
[20:07] <FrameFever> does anyone know how I can delete a folder with content from an ftp server?
[20:08] <e-vent> FrameFever, what kind of user are you?
[20:08] <e-vent> If you have root, just go to the folder above it and use rm -rf Foldername
[20:08] <Girly> I am trying to get a better feel of the linux command arguments everywhere I go there is a new one    it is like going to math school all over again
[20:09] <e-vent> Girly, indeed there are a few differences between the distros, I moved from Ubuntu to FreeBSD and back again which is like swapping sides in a car.
[20:10] <Girly> e-vent i have installed debian lxde and it works great  gui is great and not a lot of cpu usage.
[20:10] <Girly> the apt-get is not the same as Ubuntu
[20:11] <bekks> apt-get is pretty much the same.
[20:11] <FrameFever> e-vent: I am not root
[20:11] <e-vent> If you have sudo, use sudo
[20:12] <FrameFever> e-vent: It is an ftp server
[20:12] <FrameFever> I can use curl
[20:12] <dreadkopp> can you ssh to it?
[20:12] <e-vent> Right, so you don't have SSH?
[20:12] <bekks> FrameFever: sudo does not affect the permissions on the ftp server.
[20:12] <FrameFever> no SSH
[20:13] <geirha> if your ftp user does not have enough permissions, then you don't have enough permissions.
[20:13] <e-vent> If you are literally over FTP, then I am fairly sure you have to run through the long process of individually deleting down everything.
[20:13] <dreadkopp> then you are not supposed to remove the files i guess :P
[20:13] <e-vent> Equally if your FTP user lacks the permissions to do so, you cannot do that.
[20:15] <FrameFever> it is an FTP account
[20:15] <FrameFever> I can do whatever I want
[20:15] <bekks> Obviously you cannot.
[20:15] <e-vent> Right click on the folder and delete then?
[20:15] <Pici> FrameFever: Is this your server?
[20:17] <gabriele> #ubuntu-it
[20:17] <Girly> i tried to use nano editor and got the error with WinSCP  no tty present and no askpass program specified      Is that because of what was spoken above?
[20:17] <FrameFever> Pici: a webserver hosted by my hoster
[20:18] <Pici> FrameFever: Then you should contact them regarding permissions. This doesn't really seem like an Ubuntu issue.
[20:19] <Girly> a website said that error had to do with the sudoers config file
[20:19] <bekks> Girly: That website is wrong then.
[20:21] <Girly> i read so much it is hard to believe what is reality with this stuff    i am glad you nice people are here to help   :)
[20:21] <tocotron> Hi all. I want to automatically start two X sessions at login on two different VTs. Each X session shall host a SPICE client with which I connect to two running VMs. I have tried to edit the .xinitrc in that I have added the two lines that connect to the SPICE server. Entering each single line for itself works and opens two displays on the different VTs, but not so if I want to automate it in .xinitrc. The lines I have added to .
[20:21] <tocotron> xinitrc are: 'startx -e "spicec -h localhhost -p 5900" -- :0 vt7' and 'startx -e "spicec -h localhost -p 5901" -- :1 vt8'
[20:22] <FrameFever> e-vent: with filzilla I can do this
[20:22] <FrameFever> e-vent: I want to do this via command line
[20:22] <bekks> FrameFever: Then log in using ssh.
[20:22] <e-vent> Indeed, you will need to login with SSH to use any command line commands.
[20:22] <Joel> I've got a bash script from a third party vendor, does lots of things, not a straight forward script, is there a common tool out there I can put on a VM to monitor everything it changes?
[20:23] <Girly> thank you e-vent and bekks for you help  i will keep on trying
[20:23] <bekks> Joel: Reading the script is more targetting.
[20:23] <Joel> bekks, there's actual tools that do this, thanks though.
[20:23] <e-vent> Joel, reading it would be best assuming it isnt incredibly long.
[20:23] <Joel> e-vent, ^
[20:24] <e-vent> Joel, I am aware of such a tool but I cannot remember the name.
[20:24] <Joel> I know there's a kernel level deal you can enable
[20:24] <e-vent> I do believe it was effectively enterprise only though and not free.
[20:24] <Joel> but you have to tell it where in the file system to monitor
[20:25] <Joel> I belive that and some sort of chroot deal might do the trick
[20:25] <bekks> Joel: inotify. Just read the script instead.
[20:25] <e-vent> Well, I guess you could get a new install, run it
[20:25] <e-vent> then rdiff the one you ran it on and the default install?
[20:25] <manman> Hello, I have a website example.com that uses postfix and sendmail. Mail to example.com is handled by a different server and there are MX records for this. I need the site to send an email to name@example.com however when I test this it tries to send it to the IP of the website and so doesn't work.
[20:26] <bekks> e-vent: inotify is the way to go instead.
[20:26] <Joel> bekks, it's 60k lines, would you convert it into a deb file for me? no big deal, so $100 should cover it, right?
[20:26] <manman> Do you know what needs to be changed for it to work with the public mx records?
[20:26] <e-vent> TIL
[20:26] <dreadkopp> manman: i think you're in the wrong channel :)
[20:26] <FrameFever> e-vent: I can login via curl
[20:26] <FrameFever> I can also upload via curl
[20:26] <FrameFever> but I cannot delete a whole directory via curl
[20:27] <bekks> Joel: No, why would I? If you want to know what it does, packaging it into a .deb will not help you at all.
[20:27] <e-vent> manman, sounds like a website configuration issue and not ubuntu
[20:27] <manman> dreadkopp, e-vent. Ok I'll try a different irc
[20:27] <Joel> bekks, O.o
[20:27] <e-vent> manman, try the website vendor if you have one, i.e. wordpress etc...
[20:28] <e-vent> FrameFever, why aren't you just logging in with FTP normally and just deleting it?
[20:29] <e-vent> Using filezilla etc...
[20:29] <dreadkopp> someone knows hwo the boot of the live/install media works? still falling back to initramfs prompt...
[20:29] <e-vent> dreadkopp, what error?
[20:29] <e-vent> Probably should verify the image file too
[20:29] <e-vent> !verify
[20:30] <EzeQL> hello, My $PATH has an incorrect value and I need to fix it. How can i bisect PATH or find all the places where its being altered? Thanks
[20:30] <FrameFever> e-vent: this has nothing to do with my question, but okay, I have a CI system which needs to upload files to my server, when a new build was sucessfully run
[20:30] <dreadkopp> it tries to mount /dev/mck.... to /cdrom but fails ... after a while i get initramfs prompt with message : no bootable live media found
[20:30] <e-vent> Oh hold on
[20:30] <e-vent> I had this issue recently
[20:30] <bekks> FrameFever: then script the ftp command, instead of curl.
[20:30] <e-vent> I did fix it... but I cannot remember why it was having issues.
[20:30] <dreadkopp> iso is fresh from the internet, checksum is fine... created installmedia using rufus and not copying it by itself...
[20:31] <S_J> so to have voltage you need current but how much can a MCU accept? is there no current going into a GPIO on a MCU?
[20:31] <e-vent> dreadkopp, try setting the bios boot order with the USB first
[20:31] <e-vent> You just booted from F11?
[20:31] <Pici> S_J: I think you may be looking for a different channel, this is #ubuntu.
[20:32] <dreadkopp> e-vent: cannot do something like that.. its a toshiba baytrail tablet
[20:32] <e-vent> ah
[20:32] <e-vent> In that case
[20:32] <dreadkopp> from uefi menu i can choose to boot from usb stick however
[20:32] <e-vent> try swapping USB port?
[20:32] <dreadkopp> there is just one :P
[20:32] <dreadkopp> + hub since grub has no touch support XD
[20:32] <e-vent> Those were two of the solutions... erm let me see if I can find more
[20:32] <e-vent> Try non UEFI mode?
[20:33] <dreadkopp> cannot do it... no setting for that :/
[20:33] <e-vent> In that case, try http://askubuntu.com/questions/671159/bootable-usb-needs-cd-rom
[20:33] <e-vent> Mount it manually
[20:34] <e-vent> See the ISO mount loop trick
[20:34] <FrameFever> bekks: I cannot use ssh
[20:35] <e-vent> FrameFever, why aren't you just using an FTP program and issuing a file delete command?
[20:35] <e-vent> i.e. filezilla
[20:36] <dreadkopp> e-vent: so put the whole iso on the stick also.. when mounted that iso, hwo to continue from intramfs prompt?
[20:36] <e-vent> dreadkopp, return to the search for cd prompt and have it search again
[20:36] <dwarfmut> hello guys
[20:36] <e-vent> i.e. detect and mount CDROM
[20:36] <dreadkopp> e-vent... sorry i didn't get you
[20:37] <dwarfmut> what alternative do I have to fully network with ubuntu linux client and Linux servers?
[20:37] <e-vent> FrameFever, you are trying to delete an FTP folder right?
[20:37] <e-vent> What does fully network mean dwarfmut
[20:37] <dwarfmut> with samba I could create policies and control my hosts?
[20:38] <dreadkopp> e-vent: how do i 'return to the search for cd prompt'?
[20:38] <k1l_> dwarfmut: servers are controlled via ssh, usually
[20:38] <bekks> dwarfmut: No.
[20:38] <e-vent> dreadkopp, Ctrl Alt 1
[20:38] <FrameFever> e-vent: I need to delete a folder via FTP
[20:38] <dwarfmut> Linux servers and Linux workstations
[20:38] <e-vent> or CTRL Alt 7
[20:38] <bekks> dwarfmut: Samnba is a filesharing protocol - only.
[20:38] <dreadkopp> okay. thanks, will try
[20:38] <e-vent> bekks, is does do windows AD though
[20:38] <bekks> dwarfmut: In a linux/linux environment, just use NFS.
[20:38] <e-vent> So, not for linux dwarfmut
[20:39] <dreadkopp> dwarfmut: what are you trying to do?
[20:40] <dwarfmut> I would like to have linux workstations and controls them basically how it's done with AD
[20:40] <Old_nick> How to pass parameter to cfg80211 to change channel ?
[20:40] <Old_nick> in ap mode.
[20:40] <Old_nick> acces point.
[20:40] <e-vent> one second Old_nick
[20:41] <taylor-coleman> Hi everyone
[20:41] <taylor-coleman> How do I install software I've downloaded?
[20:41] <k1l_> taylor-coleman: depends on the software
[20:41] <e-vent> Old_nick, if it is like hostapd then : channel=44
[20:41] <e-vent> change to suit
[20:41] <e-vent> I've never tried to change it while running/
[20:42] <e-vent> Old_nick, I'd highly recommend using hostapd for it
[20:42] <dreadkopp> dwarfmut: what kind of control? mostly you do it via ssh or some nifty web service
[20:42] <e-vent> dwarfmut, I am not aware of a Linux version of Active Directory but I am almost certain it exists.
[20:42] <k1l_> taylor-coleman: usually there are instructions on the website you got that software. or they are in a readme or such. but on ubuntu you should look out if the software is shipped by ubuntu in the first place
[20:43] <e-vent> dreadkopp, you get to the installer?
 i use NetworkManager, when change  infrastructure to ap
[20:43] <taylor-coleman> Well, I'm trying to install a C IDE, Netbeans, but the package that came with Ubunutu from the Software Centre didn't have the C package installed
[20:43] <Old_nick> and add autoconnect
[20:43] <dreadkopp> e-vent: not yet, need to copy ubuntu.iso to the stick first :)
[20:44] <Old_nick> this is most simple solution
[20:44] <e-vent> yeah, I'd still recommend using hostapd Old_nick
[20:44] <Old_nick> i will be use i some time later - but now  i cfg80211 pass parameters
[20:45] <PestByda> dreadkopp, you mean unpacked ISO ? right to the usb stick
[20:45] <Old_nick> where is located a cfg file
[20:45] <Old_nick> ?
[20:45] <e-vent> What for?
[20:45] <e-vent> hostapd or cfg80211?
[20:45] <Old_nick> for the scond
[20:45] <Old_nick> second
[20:45] <taylor-coleman> So, how do I install Netbeans for C development?
[20:46] <taylor-coleman> it just downloaded a .sh file
[20:46] <Old_nick> or haw it's name
[20:46] <Old_nick> by locate i can find where is locate :)
[20:46] <Old_nick> what
[20:47] <e-vent> Old_nick, I honestly cannot find anything on cfg80211 for hosting an AP that isnt using hostapd
[20:47] <k1l_> taylor-coleman: https://netbeans.org/community/releases/80/install.html
[20:49] <e-vent> taylor-coleman, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/03/install-netbeans-ide-8-0-in-ubuntu-14-0413-1012-04/
[20:50] <taylor-coleman> I'll give those guides a try
[20:50] <taylor-coleman> Thanks
[20:50] <taylor-coleman> Learning linux is strange
[20:50] <taylor-coleman> very frustrating
[20:51] <Nyterax> Hi, I have Ubuntu on my main laptop ssd and want to add another ssd and install Windows 10 on it. I tried it a couple of times and each time Windows 10 wouldn't boot. What am I supposed to do?
[20:51] <dreadkopp> try arch-linux. best way to learn about how linu works / how to do things in my oppinion :)
[20:51] <taylor-coleman> Arch is for pros, I'm a noob! lol
[20:51] <dreadkopp> Nyterax: maybe ask in #windows
[20:52] <dreadkopp> arch is for beginners and pros :) i am using it for my host and two servers and still would not call me a pro :P
[20:52] <k1l_> well, respect that your windows habbit will not help. so read the instructions and you will learn
[20:52] <k1l_> dreadkopp: #archlinux for the arch adverds
[20:52] <dreadkopp> sry
[20:53] <e-vent> Nyterax, the nature of your problem is likely Windows 10 not adding it's boot to a UEFI partition
[20:53] <e-vent> So you should install both Windows 10 and Ubuntu in UEFI mode.
[20:54] <taylor-coleman> eh?
[20:54] <e-vent> k1l_, adverds?
[20:54] <e-vent> arch nerds or adverts?
[20:54] <PestByda> e-vent, yes in UEFI mode
[20:55] <PestByda> e-vent, first install Win10
[20:55] <e-vent> Then disable fastboot
[20:55] <PestByda> e-vent, then create partitions for linux
[20:55] <e-vent> then install ubuntu
[20:55] <Nyterax> but I have Ubuntu already
[20:55] <e-vent> Are you installed in UEFI mode for ubuntu?
[20:55] <Nyterax> not sure
[20:55] <PestByda> e-vent, Yes, with win10
[20:56] <PestByda> e-vent, but you have to Pre Partition everything in Win10
[20:56] <e-vent> Nyterax, alternately, unplug you ubuntu disk while installing windows
[20:56] <e-vent> then you need to change boot devices in bios to boot separate OSs
[20:57] <PestByda> e-vent, Create an EXTENDED PARTITION, create a swap partition equal to the amount of RAM you have
[20:57] <e-vent> PestByda, he is using separate drives isnt he?
[20:57] <e-vent> PestByda, I have no idea why you are talking about ubuntu partitioning, it isnt helping
[20:57] <PestByda> e-vent, ok didnt catch that
[20:58] <e-vent> It sounds like windows 10 is failing to add the UEFI boot or normal MBR, so effectively the easiest way to deal with it is to unplug the ubuntu drive when installing
[20:59] <e-vent> then re add the ubuntu drive back after windows 10 has finished installing.
[20:59] <Nyterax> e-vent, I tried that also, and once I plugged both in windows 10 would no longer boot
[20:59] <Old_nick> can pass structure as parameters ?
[20:59] <PestByda> e-vent, my comments were directed at Nyterax, sorry
[20:59] <Old_nick> options ieee80211_channel_to_frequency 6
[20:59] <e-vent> Old_nick, genuinely have no idea about manually setting things that way.
[21:00] <ChameleonSix> hi
[21:00] <PestByda> Nyterax, did you run the grub update?
[21:00] <ChameleonSix> Sup
[21:00] <ChameleonSix> I need help on something
[21:01] <e-vent> PestByda, that is a good point also.
[21:01] <ChameleonSix> How do i connect to wifi using terminal
[21:01] <e-vent> ChameleonSix, have you just installed?
[21:01] <ChameleonSix> i installed terminal only ubuntu
[21:01] <ChameleonSix> lower resource usage
[21:01] <Nyterax> grub update?
[21:02] <e-vent> ChameleonSix, http://www.ghacks.net/2009/04/14/connect-to-a-wireless-network-via-command-line/
[21:02] <fransly> oi
[21:02] <e-vent> !wifi
[21:02] <PestByda> Nyterax, boot into linux and run " sudo update-grub "
[21:02] <ChameleonSix> danke
[21:02] <ChameleonSix> :)
[21:03] <k1l_> ChameleonSix: there is a terminal version of networkmanager. nm-cli
[21:03] <e-vent> ChameleonSix, k1l_ alternately: http://askubuntu.com/questions/461825/connect-to-wifi-from-command-line
[21:04] <PestByda> ChameleonSix, Actually that command is nmcli  not nm-cli
[21:04] <ChameleonSix> hmmm
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> nmcli, rather
[21:04] <ChameleonSix> how do i scroll up
[21:04] <ChameleonSix> lol
[21:04] <ChameleonSix> this is terminal only edition
[21:05] <ChameleonSix> page up isnt working
[21:05] <PestByda> MonkeyDust, yes thank you nmcli  >k1l_
[21:05] <DavidFromBE> hello, i'm trying to update boost libraries on a ubuntu 14.04 system
[21:06] <DavidFromBE> did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:boost-latest/ppa
[21:06] <DavidFromBE> sudo apt-get update
[21:06] <DavidFromBE> but i get a 404 error
[21:06] <DavidFromBE> any help ?
[21:07] <k1l_> DavidFromBE: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[21:07] <DavidFromBE> Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[21:08] <nacc> DavidFromBE: boost-latest has no trusty support
[21:08] <nacc> look at the ppa
[21:08] <k1l_> DavidFromBE: that PPA is so outdated it only got support until trusty
[21:08] <nacc> DavidFromBE: "This PPA currently publishes packages for Saucy, Raring, Quantal, Precise, and Lucid."
[21:09] <DavidFromBE> ok, how do i update boost libs then ?
[21:09] <nacc> DavidFromBE: what version do you need?
[21:10] <DavidFromBE> i have 1.54, i need 1.55
[21:10] <PestByda> DavidFromBE, have you tried this/ sudo apt-get install libboost1X.55-all-dev
[21:11] <nacc> DavidFromBE: looking at packages.ubuntu.com, 1.55 is in universe
[21:11] <DavidFromBE> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libboost1X.55-all-dev'
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> !info boost-latest
[21:13] <DavidFromBE> nacc: i have "deb http://azure.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty universe" in my sources.list
[21:13] <nacc> DavidFromBE: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libboost1.55-all-dev
[21:13] <nacc> DavidFromBE: why were you searching for 1X.55 ?
[21:15] <PestByda> nacc, good point
[21:16] <PestByda> DavidFromBE, after the sudo apt-get update...   did you run sudo apt-get install libboost1X.55-all-dev
[21:17] <DavidFromBE> ok, did apt-get remove libboost1.54-dev and then apt-get install libboost1.55-all-dev  it looks ok so far
[21:17] <DavidFromBE> thanks
[21:17] <sudo_rm_-r> hi i have kali linux on a live usb on my pc but it wont open the hard drive on my computer can someone tell me why?
[21:17] <DavidFromBE> it's all good
[21:17] <bekks> !derivatives | sudo_rm_-r
[21:18] <sudo_rm_-r> oh thanks
[21:18] <nacc> DavidFromBE: should have been fine to just `apt-get install libboost1.55-all-dev` and it would either have resolved the dependencies/conflicts or just gone ahead and installed, afaict
[21:19] <DavidFromBE> yes, it complained about dependencies so i had to manually remove v1.54.
[21:19] <nacc> DavidFromBE: ah ok
[21:39] <zerowaitstate> how long should it take to write a partition table in gdisk?
[21:40] <ikonia> zerowaitstate: very quick
[21:40] <zerowaitstate> It's been writing for about half an hour
[21:41] <ikonia> seems like you have a problem
[22:04] <sudomarize> how do I add one character space before all output in terminal?
[22:04] <sudomarize> e.g. instad of |$ some command, it's | $ some command
[22:04] <lars__> flash doesnt work in chromium/firefox in 16.04
[22:04] <lars__> Help please
[22:04] <PestByda> sudomarize, why?
[22:05] <sudomarize> PestByda: that's how i want to format my output
[22:05] <lars__> I cant find it in about plugins in chromium
[22:05] <lars__> And I have pepperflash installed
[22:05] <lars__> The apt from adobe flash i cant install
[22:06] <PestByda> sudomarize, do you realy want to mess with terminal prompt formatting?
[22:07] <sudomarize> PestByda: yes
[22:09] <dreadkopp> for ubuntu install how can i precise the grub argument ' iso-scan/filename=${iso_path} ' since this is the point i got a problem with
[22:10] <bprompt> sudomarize:   http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-unix-bash-shell-setup-prompt.html
[22:10] <PestByda> sudomarize, OK --- RUN/   PS1=" $ "
[22:10] <bprompt> sudomarize:    regular prompt, will be $PS1, make sure you make the changes global, to /etc/profile or /etc/profile.d  or local to user, by adding it to .bashrc
[22:11] <sudomarize> PestByda: i've did that, but it seems as though this doesn't effect stdout
[22:11] <sudomarize> *done
[22:11] <sudomarize> so i'm getting:
[22:11] <yorwos> i installed a deb file through software center, and now that i want to uninstall it it only gives reinstall option , how should i uninstall it ?
[22:11] <sudomarize>  $ command
[22:11] <sudomarize> output
[22:12] <sudomarize> instead of:
[22:12] <sudomarize>  $ command
[22:12] <sudomarize>  $ output
[22:12] <sudomarize> sorry, meant:
[22:12] <sudomarize>  $ command
[22:12] <sudomarize>  output
[22:12] <bprompt> yorwos:   if you hmmm   do a -> dpkg -l <-- do you see the package listed there?   what's its name? if you have the name, you can just check with -> dpkg -l NAMEHERE <-
[22:13] <bprompt> yorwos:    and you can remove it with -> dpkg -r NAMEHERE <-
[22:13] <PestByda> sudomarize, I have no way to changing the output formating in the terminal windows
[22:14] <yorwos> thnx bp , im removing it
[22:14] <bprompt> sudomarize:    what are you trying to customize again?  it may just be your terminal app possibly
[22:14] <yorwos> should i try reinstall it with dpkg maybe ? im trying to install the native version of unity5
[22:14] <Kolmain> Hey, newbie here. I'm trying to monitor my Ubuntu servers via PRTG Network Monitor over SSH, but im getting this error: "The negotiation of encryption algorithm is failed"
[22:15] <sudomarize> bprompt: i'm trying to create a buffer area between the edge of my terminal window and the tetx
[22:15] <sudomarize> e.g. | $ command, instead of |$command
[22:15] <bprompt> yorwos:   if you have the .deb file, sure
[22:15] <PestByda> bprompt, hes not just trying to change the prompt he's trying to SHIFT the OUTPUT like a sub-paragraph
[22:16] <dreadkopp> e-vent: still stuck in initramfs prompt. mounted the iso to /cdrom as well es mmcblk0p4 to /cdrom (which fails at boot)... pressed ctrl + alt + 1/4/7 afterwards... nothing is happening
[22:16] <Kolmain> How can I readd CBC ciphers to enable SSH via CBC?
[22:17] <pac1> I have a search form with a textarea. when I change the data in the textarea, I want to use it to run a query, counting the number of matching items.  What has to react to changes in the textarea and how do you make that happen in meteor?
[22:17] <pac1> sorry wrong channel
[22:18] <bprompt> sudomarize:    that's usually handled by the terminal app.... so you can set margins and stuff there, assuming it has such options, Konsole is one of the best rated terminal apps, and allows a good level of customization .....though I just checked.. and doesn't have the margins part, but other choices though
[22:18] <sudomarize> bprompt: ah ok
[22:18] <bprompt> sudomarize:    so, you'd want a terminal app that allows you adding margins to the terminal window and other decorations
[22:19] <e-vent> dreadkopp, you sure you mounted the ISO right?
[22:19] <e-vent> the ctrl alt stuff is just to move between terminals
[22:19] <e-vent> I thought you said it was stuck at the cdrom prompt?
[22:19] <dreadkopp> ah... ctrl + alt + F(n)
[22:20] <dreadkopp> i am stuck in the initramfs prompt busybox (message is that no bootable live image is found.. or something like that )
[22:23] <sudomarize> bprompt: ok thanks, looking through dconf atm
[22:23] <bprompt> np
[22:23] <e-vent> dreadkopp, go over the problem again I went away and had dinner
[22:29] <dreadkopp> me too :) okay... i am trying to install ubuntu on this baytrail toshiba wt7-c tablet since win 10 (which is installed) is not detecting the hardware correctly leaving it useless and win 8.1 can just be reinstalled by the recovery media it's owner didn't created before going to win 10... i created a ubuntu 15-10 x86 install usb using rufus. then i created /EFI/boot and added the needed bootia32.efi to get to grub (32bit
[22:29] <dreadkopp>  UEFI on this damn thing). i get to grub commandline and start ubuntu by loading ubuntus grub conf ( configfile (hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub/loopback.cfg ) then selecting ' Try Ubuntu '. kernel + initramfs is loaded but then instead of Live session i am dumped into the initramfs prompt busybox with the message ' unable to find a medium containing a live file system ' ... there i am.. :/
[22:30] <e-vent> huh
[22:30] <e-vent> I'd thought you were at the installer prompt with a CDROM issue
[22:32] <p444> Hi, i have installed Nagios and plugins and have an issue, can someone help. im  learing it in school and i'm stuck on one part
[22:34] <e-vent> dreadkopp, forum suggests changing BIOS controller to AHCI
[22:35] <sudomarize> bprompt: is it also possible to change the color of directories to a rgb value?
[22:35] <dreadkopp> e-vent: thanks for the info but i cannot do that. i can just change bios language and turn secure boot on and of :(
[22:35] <e-vent> Interedasting
[22:36] <e-vent> Forum suggests it is trying to load an OS from a USB device e.g. wifi
[22:37] <e-vent> Taking a gander at the hardware
[22:37] <dreadkopp> netinstall also not possible (just wifi)
[22:38] <e-vent> tbh, you're making me wonder if I could install ubuntu on my phone.
[22:38] <axk4545> e-vent: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone
[22:39] <e-vent> Yeah, maybe its a Zenfone 2
[22:39] <e-vent> Which is x86
[22:39] <axk4545> e-vent: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/devices
[22:39] <dreadkopp> this thing provides a usb 2 port, a intel atom cpu some sensors and thats it. internal harddrive seems to be a sd as well... i will try to open this damn thing.. maybe i can put everything directly to the internal sd card...
[22:40] <dreadkopp> damn windows baytrail sh*t
[22:40] <e-vent> Hmm, I'm looking at instructions from an android base
[22:40] <e-vent> does it support android at all?
[22:41] <dreadkopp> android x86 is not continued if i am correct + driver issue
[22:41] <e-vent> dreadkopp, someone says someone did manage to install
[22:41] <e-vent> so it should be possible
[22:41] <e-vent> albeit unstable
[22:42] <bprompt> sudomarize:    hmmm type -> dircolors <--   that's the current color scheme for "ls" that is.... now, notice what those letters and numbers stand for ->  http://linux-sxs.org/housekeeping/lscolors.html   <---, do the editing the $LS_COLORS variable in your .bashrc, so it executes per user account
[22:43] <e-vent> dreadkopp, I am thinking that the cfg is pointing at the wrong device to boot
[22:43] <skao> .xchat2/budus.so
[22:44] <e-vent> someone has managed to get arch to install on it
[22:44] <sudomarize> bprompt: thanks!
[22:44] <dreadkopp> thats the config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14691355/
[22:44] <dreadkopp> didn't want to go the arch way since it's the tablet of a friend. one which will be safer running ubuntu :P
[22:45] <AppleJacks> Hello everyone. Was wondering if I could get some assistance. I'm using lubuntu and recent changed my default (and only) user to be able to login from startup without requiring a password. However, each time I try ot login after selecting my user it will just flash black then black back to the login screen. Even worst I haven't setup ssh access yet so I'm stuck out of my machine.
[22:45] <e-vent> dreadkopp, is that a default conf?
[22:46] <dreadkopp> yes - quiet and splash argument.
[22:48] <zerowaitstate> AppleJacks: CTRL-ALT-F1 will get you a text tty
[22:48] <dreadkopp> just disassembling that damn thing now.. whould be great if i could put everything directly on the interal storage
[22:48] <bprompt> sudomarize:    and if you want some coloring in the "man pages", check "most pager", is in the repositories, check for "most", and you can customize those colors at its configuration file at ~/.mostrc
[22:48] <zerowaitstate> AppleJacks: CTRL-ALT-F7 will go back to X
[22:49] <zerowaitstate> AppleJacks: sounds like your X server is crashing. I would check the X error log
[22:49] <e-vent> dreadkopp, you can according to arch
[22:49] <e-vent> did you set your USB as the boot device (top)
[22:49] <sudomarize> bprompt: sweet, i'll check it out
[22:50] <e-vent> Try setting the order USB HD CD apparently
[22:50] <ed_> hi guys! sorry if this is super basic (I am sure it is) but I cannot find the answer on google. How do I see my DHCP information? IE: my IP address, gateway, DNS servers etc
[22:50] <e-vent> ifconfig
[22:50] <dreadkopp> cannot change the order :/
[22:50] <e-vent> ed ^
[22:50] <e-vent> ifconfig
[22:50] <e-vent> use terminal
[22:50] <ed_> e-vent, thanks but that's not complete I think (eg no DNS)
[22:50] <zerowaitstate> ed_: use "ip addr" and not ifconfig. ifconfig is deprecated
[22:51] <PestByda> zerowaitstate, nice
[22:51] <e-vent> really zerowaitstate ?
[22:52] <PestByda> e-vent, lol
[22:52] <e-vent> Since when?
[22:52] <PestByda> e-vent, since before time it self
[22:52] <zerowaitstate> for about 5 years or so
[22:52] <PestByda> e-vent, lol
[22:52] <zerowaitstate> it's no longer being maintained
[22:52] <ed_> thanks! but that still doesn't have the DNS server does it?
[22:53] <ed_> i am looking at other options for iP canot se it
[22:53] <zerowaitstate> no, it does not
[22:53] <e-vent> try nslookup Anywebsite
[22:53] <AppleJacks> Thanks, it does appear to be crashing, once I tried that and startx it just locked up
[22:53] <e-vent> it'd list the DNS it uses
[22:53] <ed_> interesting! yes that's closer!
[22:53] <AppleJacks> I've been trying to get 1xxvnc to auto-start and think I may have messed something up
[22:54] <e-vent> dreadkopp, other suggestions are, try putting the disk image right on the pendrive with dd and try another pen drive
[22:54] <Albatross> If Ubuntu is your favorite Linux distribution, why?
[22:54] <ed_> okay :) another question, how do I tell whether my system uses dhclient or dhcpd?
[22:54] <PestByda> Albatross, uptodate kernel / drivers
[22:55] <PestByda> Albatross, eventhough were still missing usb3.1 support
[22:56] <dreadkopp> just dd-ing is no use since then i am missing bootia32.efi and cannot boot at all...when using a second usb with image dd'ed on it i cannot access it via grub shell ...
[22:57] <dreadkopp> internal storage is soldered on motherbaord... damn
[22:58] <nacc> ed_: one is a client and one is a server
[22:58] <ed_> nacc, yes sorry for the dumb question
[22:58] <e-vent> dreadkopp, when in the initram fs are you able to mount the iso to cdrom from the USB?
[22:59] <Guest90280> Nick <becky>
[22:59] <zerowaitstate> ed_: try this: nmcli dev list
[22:59] <lnostdal> hi, why does ubuntu not update their openjdk packages for supported releases? .. it's kind of important with regards to security
[22:59] <Guest90280> <Becky?
[22:59] <ed_> zerowaitstate, i use wicd :)
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[22:59] <ed_> I think what I wanted is this:    cat /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases
[23:00] <lnostdal> e.g. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-8 ..  both 8u66 and 8u45 (!!!) have problems
[23:00] <k1l> lnostdal: ubuntu ships security updates. but it doesnt increase the version number
[23:00] <dreadkopp> e-vent: yes. but don't know how to continue from there
[23:00] <Guest90280> Anyone know how to make my nickname come back? It's Becky here
[23:00] <e-vent> once its mounted did you try to boot?
[23:01] <e-vent> i.e. boot
[23:01] <k1l> Guest90280: /nick newnick
[23:01] <ikonia> Guest90280: we've been through this before
[23:01] <k1l> Guest90280: but if it is registered by another user you need to choose another one
[23:01] <dreadkopp> e-vent: how to boot from within loaded kernel + initramfs ?
[23:01] <lnostdal> k1l, hm, that's an odd thing to do ..   and, looking at the changelogs specific for the ubuntu packages i do not see anything mentioned recently
[23:02] <Becky2> sorry
[23:02] <lnostdal> k1l, (it's odd because it is hard to really know what version you're running without going through each changelog entry to make sure there's no potential problems)
[23:02] <e-vent> Good question
[23:02] <k1l> lnostdal: do you have specific cves? if they are not patched already file bugs
[23:03] <e-vent> what commands does help list?
[23:03] <lnostdal> k1l, there's plenty bugs and security issues mentioned upstream
[23:03] <zerowaitstate> dreadkopp: http://linux.die.net/man/8/pivot_root
[23:03] <dreadkopp> give me a minute... need to reassemble the thing first :)
[23:04] <Becky2> k1l I'm glad to see you are still here. You helped me make wifi work on my Ubuntu 14.04 Toshiba laptop a few days ago. We upgraded part of the kernel. It did work for a few days, but when Ubuntu did an update it stopped working. Could you please tell me again how to update the kernel?
[23:05] <e-vent> I think the command literally is boot
[23:05] <k1l> Becky2: what gives you "uname -a" ?
[23:05] <PestByda> Becky2 what specifically is wrong?
[23:06] <PestByda> Becky2, are you seeing any wifi routers?
[23:06] <Becky2> The wifi looks like it is connecting. It accepts the password and looks great. But the internet just times out every time.
[23:07] <Becky2> Not sure what uname -a is referring to. Should I type that in terminal?
[23:07] <k1l> Becky2: yes please
[23:07] <AppleJacks> Is there a prepackage vnc program that will auto-start without and extra setup?
[23:07] <AppleJacks> vnc server*
[23:07] <PestByda> Becky2, it would give you the KERNEL version you are running
[23:08] <PestByda> Becky2, just run    uname -r       in a terminal
[23:08] <Becky2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14691460/
[23:09] <Becky2> -r gives: 4.2.0-25-generic
[23:13] <k1l> Becky2: well, for a short time you could select the old kernel in the boot menu and see if that works ok again
[23:14] <e-vent> dreadkopp, this install in UEFI mode?
[23:15] <dreadkopp> no possibility to switch to legacy :)
[23:15] <e-vent> What did you make the pen with?
[23:15] <dreadkopp> i am in initramfs prompt in a few secs
[23:15] <Becky2> k1l I am not in the habit of choosing anything when I boot up. I don't remember it asking me what kernel I wanted
[23:15] <dreadkopp> rufus. also created it by just formatting it fat32 and copy ubuntu.iso contents on it
[23:16] <e-vent> try dding it on
[23:16] <e-vent> or unetbootin
[23:16] <Becky2> k1l where is the boot menu? I will give it a try
[23:16] <k1l> Becky2: press left shift when you boot up. there should be the "grub" menu. choose "more" or other ubuntu. there it should list several old kernels
[23:17] <Becky2> k1l thanks, I will try that. Any suggestions on which one I should pick?
[23:18] <k1l> the last one before this.
[23:18] <k1l> just to test if it was an kernel upgrade or something else
[23:18] <dreadkopp> rufus does the same as unetbootin... dd is still no possibility :/ need to charge the thing for now... argggh! or maybe just throw it away
[23:18] <Becky2> kl1 ok thanks I will try it. My mom is telling me to get off the computer, so it might be a minute before I come back. so thanks for the advice!
[23:19] <PestByda> wow k1l Time well spent...
[23:19] <e-vent> try win32diskimager then
[23:22] <dreadkopp> thanks for the help! will try again tommorrow.. was just going to mount the iso from within the initramfs prompt then power shut down... need to recharge it (just got a 1A USB charger so it will take a while... :/ )
[23:22] <e-vent> yup
[23:22] <e-vent> another thing to try is a different OS!
[23:22] <e-vent> Might be some ubuntu thing
[23:23] <dreadkopp> hmm... might try mint then... why other distros are extremely user-friendly?
[23:23] <ikonia> why would changing distros help this ?
[23:24] <ikonia> do you actually understand why this is failing ?
[23:24] <derpsauce> Nautilus won't mount network folders (smb, sftp) when I run it remotely (ssh-ing and x11 forwarding)
[23:24] <derpsauce> Anyone else have that problem?
[23:24] <e-vent> dreadkopp, no idea :)
[23:25] <dreadkopp> derpsauce: i guess nautilus is mounting the shares to your user. are you ssh-ing as the same user?
[23:25] <ikonia> is it using fuse
[23:25] <ikonia> as that will fail
[23:26] <derpsauce> dreadkopp: I'm ssh-ed as the same user I usually use locally.
[23:26] <derpsauce> ikonia: is that question at me?
[23:28] <smitty1e> Login question: I can CTRL+ALT+F2 and log into a tty with my user account, but the regular X11 login dialog rejects my password. This is 15.1
[23:29] <dreadkopp> that strange... maybe graphical login uses different keyboard layout?
[23:30] <smitty1e> Someone also suggested a PAM problem?
[23:31] <dreadkopp> does your passwd contain any special characters or z/y ?
[23:31] <derpsauce> Ah, my problem might just be that my parent PID isn't rooted
[23:31] <jonascj> Hi all. I am trying to install ubuntu desktop 14.04 on a HP 840 G1 which use UEFI. I have the harddisk partitioned as sda1 512MB EFI system parttion (ESP), and sda2 200GB LVM. I had already manually setup volume groups, logical volumes etc., so during Ubuntu install I chose "Something else" and made it use the LVs for /, /home, /tmp, swap etc., and I asked it to install bootloader to /dev/sda1 (the 512MB ESP).
[23:31] <smitty1e> dreadkopp: no, just alphanumeric.
[23:31] <jonascj> But upon reboot it says "Error: symbol 'grub_efi_secure_boot' not found."
[23:31] <jonascj> What have I done wrong?
[23:32] <PestByda> jonascj, is there another os on this system?
[23:32] <e-vent> try turning secure boot off
[23:33] <derpsauce> Who knew that ctrl+z of your ssh x11 window would terminate the connection (mobaxterm+lts14.04)
[23:33] <e-vent> but It sounds like it installed with secure boot on and it failed to add the right files
[23:33] <jonascj> PestByda: there was, arch linux with manual grub installationa and config, but I need ubuntu on the system for a time.
[23:33] <jonascj> PestByda: do you suggest I reformat the disk completely and lay out the ESP etc. again?
[23:33] <jonascj> or is ESP not necessary for ubuntu uefi?
[23:34] <jonascj> It seems to me that grub is installed somewhat correct since I see the classic ubuntu boot menu "Ubuntu", "Ubuntu Advanced options" etc.
[23:35] <PestByda> jonascj, just stop partitioning messing with a harddrive, Let the Ubuntu install OVERWRITE the whole disk
[23:35] <jonascj> PestByda: and at what point will I setup my lvm?
[23:36] <PestByda> jonascj are you INSTALLING A DUAL / MULTI BOOT?
[23:36] <PestByda> jonascj, if you are installing a clean Ubuntu Just let it install
[23:36] <jonascj> PestByda: no, but I would like to use lvm, and if I remember correctly standard ubuntu lvm install only makes two LVs (root and home)
[23:37] <jonascj> of course I can resize etc. once booted, but it seemed nice to do it beforehand
[23:38] <Becky_> k1l mom just wanted me to show her how to use the new electric pressure cooker to cook pork ribs. I'm back. Downgrading the kernel to the most recent one with the left shift didn't work.
[23:39] <PestByda> jonascj, ok technically you need three partitions on an extended partition... a swap(equal in size to the amount of ram,  a Root(ext4) partition about 10Gb, and Home(ext4) the rest of the available free space...
[23:39] <Becky_> k1l last time I thought we upgraded the kernel to the Ubuntu 15 (or something)
[23:39] <k1l> Becky_: grub looks like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/Z2lrL.png
[23:40] <k1l> Becky_: yes. you are now on the 15.10 backports kernel.
[23:40] <jonascj> PestByda: I would prefer to have one partition being used for LVM (will house root, tmp, home etc.) and maybe another partition for boot/efi stuff (if needed, maybe it is not).
[23:40] <Becky_> k1l yes, i saw a list like that except mine had many grubs to choose from. Like at least 5 I think.
[23:41] <k1l> Becky_: there should be the latest kernel version (4.2) but there should be several different 4.2 ones. you are not on 4.2.0-25  but there should be one decreased to the -25 number
[23:43] <jonascj> Now I try with ubuntu
[23:43] <jonascj> ubuntu's own lvm partitioning scheme
[23:43] <Becky_> k1l The top one had a four I remember, then there was one that said "safe mode" then I saw one below that that had a three in it. I should have written it down. I need to try again
[23:43] <jonascj> maybe that will work and I can fix the rest post installation
[23:43] <k1l> Becky_: wait
[23:44] <Becky_> k1l ok you caught me
[23:44] <k1l> Becky_: please pastebin the output of "ls -al /boot"
[23:46] <Becky_> k1l http://paste.ubuntu.com/14691623/
[23:46] <k1l> Becky_: ok. so there os only one 4.2 kernel. so that has not changed
[23:47] <Becky_> k1l ok. maybe i was mistaken about what we did to fix it last time
[23:47] <k1l> Becky_: you could run a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" to make sure you got all latest updates
[23:47] <k1l> Becky_: then please run a "sudo apt-get autoremove" to let some not used packages be removed.
[23:48] <Becky_> k1l thank you. I will do both of those suggestions
[23:49] <jonascj> ubuntu's own lvm scheme did not work :S
[23:49] <k1l> Becky_: to clarify: we changed the kernel branch from 3.13 to 4.2. but that kernels still get updates inside their branch (like you see the whole 3.13 ones there)
[23:49] <PestBuda> k1l, judging by that pastbin, it will be a while before that "autoremove" is done
[23:49] <eelstrebor> ok. so how does one test dnscrypt if one is not using an opendns server?
[23:50] <Becky_> k1l ok what is a kernel now?
[23:50] <PestBuda> ohh wow
[23:51] <k1l> Becky_: its a basis layer of the whole operating system.
[23:52] <PestBuda> Becky_, think of kernel as the Brain of any OS
[23:52] <Becky_> dang it guys, my mom is making me get off the computer again. sorry
[23:53] <PestBuda> ... nice
[23:53] <Becky_> k1l I will try to come back in a few if i can
[23:54] <PestBuda> k1l, I have to go too, my mom is telling me I have to finish my homework, and clean my room.......
[23:54] <k1l> PestBuda: stop it