[11:24] <sakrecoer_> browsing the official ubuntuchannels, i found a lonely log bot in #ubuntustudio-es. i'm joining it.:) 
[11:25] <sakrecoer_> maybe we can tell ubottu to direct spannish ubuntustudio questions to it?
[11:58] <cub> sakrecoer_: about redesigning the web site, we have discussed it back and forth. Latest plans was to do a complete redesign for 16.04. Question is if we will able to do that until April? Either doing our own design or I have been discussing with knome (who made the templates for Ubuntu studio and Xubuntu previously) and he has a new cross distro design ongoing. I have'nt had time to explore it yet but the screenshort looked q
[15:33] <sakrecoer_> cub: it would be nice of this knome could brief us up on the situation.
[15:35] <sakrecoer_> :)
[15:38] <sakrecoer_> the design.canonical.com guys seem to be trying out jekyll. http://ubuntudesign.github.io/jekyll-vanilla-theme/
[15:38] <sakrecoer_> what is interesting with jekyll is that we can devlope the website together using bzr
[15:41] <sakrecoer_> also, since it renders a static site, it generates little to no security concern (although i guess since we do not administer the wordpress on module level, that wouldn't make any big difference for us)
[15:43] <sakrecoer_> jekyll has built in migration script http://import.jekyllrb.com/docs/wordpress/
[15:44] <sakrecoer_> but i guess the webadmins would need to do that... i 
[15:44] <sakrecoer_> m happy with the current
[15:44] <sakrecoer_> site
[15:44] <sakrecoer_> but i wouldn't mind if it got a facelift :)
[15:46] <sakrecoer_> i guess i'm trying to say i would like to be updated on it's current situation :D
[15:50] <sakrecoer_> and also i'm a jekyll fanboy :D
[16:25] <sakrecoer_> zequence: i continue here since its on topic
[16:26] <sakrecoer_> feature freeze, and what needs to be done :)
[16:27] <sakrecoer_> i remember DalekSec recently mentioning that the latest mixxx version was being packaged in debian. Is this the kindof thing that we need look into before feature freeze?
[16:43] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: yes. seq24, qmidiroute, and a few others from the same place have had their annual updates finished.
[16:44] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: http://alsamodular.sourceforge.net/ has new stuff as well.
[16:46] <OvenWerks> This means KAconnect, QAMix, QARecord, QMidiArp, QMidiControl, QMidiRoute are all updated. The main thing is moved to qt5 or able to be done in qt5 but will still work on qt4. qmidiroute is of interest to me personally as I put one of the bug fixes... because I use that part of the code :)
[16:48] <OvenWerks> in other news sourceforge appears to have been bought by another company (again). This news via a leak with the suggestion to people to get their code off there to somewhere else (or at least back it up).
[16:52] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerks: cool! that a hole bunch of updates
[16:52] <sakrecoer_> i never managed to get in contact with the font team over at debian..
[16:52] <sakrecoer_> they seem to keep devleopping for the old version, but i might missunderstand the versioning..
[16:52] <sakrecoer_> didn't know about sourceforge...
[16:53] <sakrecoer_> but i've read about a torrent based git protocole :D
[16:54] <sakrecoer_> wb krytarik :)
[16:54] <krytarik> Hi. :)
[18:05] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: Reg. #ubuntustudio-es, while the founder of that is even an Ubuntu Member, it's an unofficial channel, and since it's not exactly populated much either, nor can be expected to be (judging from other flavors), it doesn't make much sense to send people there.
[18:33] <zequence> sakrecoer_: We don't really need to concern ourselves with what happens in Debian, unless we want to. Not until after Debian Import Freeze. If we find something is not up to par among the packages, and there is a newer version of the package, we can request a sync (anyone can, with a launchpad account)
[18:33] <zequence> I'll make sure to document this in our wiki later
[18:34] <zequence> If Debian has not packaged the newer version, or if there is a bugfix but no new version, then you need to patch the Ubuntu package. One could do this in Debian first, and then just sync it to Ubuntu too.
[19:04] <sakrecoer_> krytarik: ok :) got it :) i'll leave that poor logbot alone then... :)
[19:06] <sakrecoer_> zequence: ok. what should we discuss then, or rather, what should we think about?
[19:06] <sakrecoer_> before the feature freeze?
[19:35] <zequence> sakrecoer_: Mostly which changes we want to have done in our packages and otherwise surrounding our ISO, before feature freeze
[19:36] <zequence> It's not impossible to put in changes after feature freeze, especially for our own packages, but it's best to be done in time, so there's enough time for testing and bug fixing
[19:37] <sakrecoer_> got this mail from launchpad /Nicholas Skaggs, has invited Ubuntu Studio Release to join Ubuntu Testcase Admins/
[19:44] <sakrecoer_> you probably got it too zequence ?
[19:59] <knome> sakrecoer_, hey, probably best i just join this channel ;)
[19:59] <knome> basically, my suggestion for the website refresh at the moment is this:
[19:59] <sakrecoer_> yes! :) wb knome :)
[19:59] <knome> i have created a wordpress theme for ubuntu community teams
[20:00] <knome> the theme is WIP and in public beta testing right now
[20:00] <knome> and you can find it here: https://github.com/knomepasi/ubuntu-community-wordpress-theme
[20:00] <knome> it allows you to change the colors and the logo too
[20:00] <knome> so even without any changes, it could be a relatively good starting point for the website
[20:01] <knome> i don't know what you have been thinking about light/dark themes
[20:01] <knome> currently, the theme is only light, eg. no dark variant
[20:01] <knome> however, if you feel like that's a blocker, i could totally look at bringing a dark base color scheme to the theme
[20:02] <knome> it would still be the same style and layout though
[20:02] <sakrecoer_> the current one is only dark in the background...
[20:02] <knome> yep
[20:03] <sakrecoer_> i don't mind it being light... i guess, we'd have to gather opinions and check against the time you can put on it :)
[20:03] <knome> the dark variant is relatively simple to implement and i can promise that for 16.04, if you feel like that's a hard requirement for you
[20:04] <knome> outside that, i would really like to know if the theme would be something you would be interested in using
[20:04] <knome> and what kind of improvements you would like to see there
[20:04] <knome> (if any)
[20:04] <knome> for example, no specific support for a slideshow (like the one you have now) is built in
[20:05] <knome> so if you wanted something like that, then we'd have to see how we would figure out that
[20:06] <knome> and if it would be custom code built-in to the theme, or a specific wordpress plugin we specifically supported
[20:06] <knome> and re: all that, if we decide to build in or support something, it would need to be something that is usable by others too
[20:08] <sakrecoer_> knome: ok... how well does wordpress integrate with subfolders containing static files?
[20:08] <knome> i don't think the core does at all
[20:09] <knome> what are you thinking about?
[20:09] <sakrecoer_> the feature tour...
[20:09] <knome> you can easily create a child theme that creates a template you can use
[20:10] <knome> also, for comparison, the xubuntu feature tour is created by "style formats" specified in wordpress: http://xubuntu.org/tour/
[20:10] <sakrecoer_> hm.. that would be nice. i'm not sure the stiff framework of the current wordpress make up a very sexy feature tour.. but that is just my opinion..
[20:11] <knome> the "problem" with static files is that if you are hosting your site with canonical, you will need the canonical IS to always do the deploy to production
[20:11] <knome> so you want to avoid that as long as you can
[20:12] <sakrecoer_> i see... indeed...
[20:13] <sakrecoer_> but i like the xubuntu layout, if we put a little effort on having some sexy pictures, it will be just as fine :)
[20:13] <sakrecoer_> i like the current ubuntustudio layout aswell...
[20:13] <knome> yeah, so basically we can enable that kind of "strips" of color for the community theme relatively easily too
[20:14] <sakrecoer_> thats is good idea, use the workflow colorscheme...
[20:14] <knome> whether that's something i'd build for the parent theme (or a specific ubuntustudio child theme) is a different thing
[20:15] <knome> if we decide that we need a child theme, the dark color scheme can be applied from there too
[20:15] <knome> as well as potential specific handling of the header
[20:15] <knome> (currently, logos are limited to 25px height)
[20:16] <sakrecoer_> ok
[20:16] <knome> what would be helpful though is if you could set up wordpress
[20:16] <knome> then install that theme for the installation
[20:16] <knome> and play around a bit with the content you want for the ubuntustudio theme
[20:17] <knome> i believe that would give me the kind of feedback i'd like from the public beta before taking the leap and requesting canonical IS to push this theme to their wordpress farm
[20:17] <sakrecoer_> setup wordpress... on a personal server?
[20:18] <sakrecoer_> like a sandbox?
[20:18] <knome> yeah
[20:20] <sakrecoer_> hm... i don't have the possibility just now...
[20:20] <sakrecoer_> i removed everything php and mysql from my server
[20:20] <sakrecoer_> not to keen on doing those setups again...
[20:21] <knome> what about running a server in virtualbox?
[20:21] <knome> or maybe zequence could lend some server space :)
[20:23] <sakrecoer_> ok, hopefully, zequence has a little spare space... i could play arround localy but that wouldn't be much feedback for you..
[20:24] <knome> it would be fine too
[20:24] <knome> i mean, i just want to know if you need something that isn't there
[20:24] <knome> and if something isn't working, i'll have to try it myself anyway
[20:24] <sakrecoer_> yeah? ah great! sure! you just want like... abeta tester? :)
[20:25] <knome> yeah. :)
[20:25] <knome> let me dig the announcement email
[20:25] <knome> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-community-team/2016-January/000991.html
[20:26] <knome> but basically what i just said above
[20:26] <knome> and i'm asking this because i want the theme to be useful
[20:26] <knome> not because i want others to do the work for me ;)
[20:26] <knome> (i don't even intend to use the theme myself, so...)
[20:26] <sakrecoer_> oh! great thanks! i wasn't subscribed to that list :)
[20:27] <sakrecoer_> sure, i'll test it... its going to take me sometime logistaclly, i just moved my flat..
[20:27] <knome> yeah, no problem
[20:27] <knome> again, i'm not in a hurry with this :)
[20:28] <knome> tbe, this sat on the HDD for a year and more before i picked it up again and brought it to where it is now, so...
[20:28] <sakrecoer_> good, although time flies, the sooner we are ready, the better :D
[20:29] <knome> sure
[20:30] <sakrecoer_> i'll do my best to have a sandbox running by the 6th of february :) perhaps someone is faster, in that case please be welcome (can we have too much testing)
[20:30] <knome> getting this ready to be pushed to the canonical wordpress farm sometime before the end of march would be good enough for 16.04 though
[20:30] <knome> nope, we can't have too much of it
[20:30] <sakrecoer_> ok, thats fairly comfortable timeframe :)
[20:31] <knome> and as i said in the mail, feel free to file issues of clear bugs in github
[20:31] <sakrecoer_> i will if find any :)
[20:31] <knome> i'll leave my client on this channel, so you can poke me here as well
[20:31] <knome> i'm sure there are several - at least if feature-request-like bugs count
[20:31] <sakrecoer_> thank you knome :) 
[20:31] <knome> for example, there is still no special handling of archive pages
[20:32] <knome> i'll likely need to work on that
[20:32] <sakrecoer_> i'll do my best to help you :)
[20:33] <sakrecoer_> i'm pleased to read you, knome. i get a good feeling for this theme adventure :)
[20:33] <knome> heh, good
[20:54] <flocculant> zequence: you should have a mail from LP telling you that release team is invited to ubuntu testcase - you need to accept that for Ross to be able to admin your stuff
[20:54]  * knome hides from flocculant 
[20:55] <flocculant> too late
[20:55] <flocculant> I spied that knome :p
[20:55] <knome> :P
[20:55] <knome> ok guys, take him down, he's spying on us
[20:56] <flocculant> if you're going to do that - please do so now :D
[20:56] <knome> lol
[21:00] <sakrecoer_> haha!
[21:00] <sakrecoer_> i recieved that too flocculant, if you say i should accept it i will...
[21:01] <flocculant> sakrecoer_: yep - please do so
[21:01] <sakrecoer_> aight!
[21:01] <flocculant> it means that Ross can admin testcases (hopefully) which means in turn that I can leave your release team :)
[21:02] <sakrecoer_> noooo! don't leave us flocculant \o\ :)
[21:02] <flocculant> ha 
[21:02] <sakrecoer_> what have i done :'( haha
[21:02] <flocculant> I only needed to be in to see what was up with that
[21:04] <sakrecoer_> :)
[21:05] <sakrecoer_> i have to log out for now... thanks knome for stopping by and for working on that theme :)
[21:05] <sakrecoer_> laterz y'all! o/~
[21:05] <flocculant> cya