[02:07] <mhall119> ahoneybun: pong
[03:02] <McIntireEvan> Is there a way to tell what type of password a user has (as in, if they have a passcode or a passphrase)?
[03:23] <popey> no, i don't think so
[03:23] <popey> certainly not from within an application
[03:23] <popey> the only thing that knows the difference is the login screen and system settings, and no app will be able to see that data
[04:00] <McIntireEvan> Alright, thanks!
[06:47] <elimisteve> Damn. I'm compiling a binary on an ARM device (Scaleway server) for my Nexus 4 running Ubuntu Phone, and it's linking against /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libunity-scopes.so.1.0
[06:47] <elimisteve> but Ubuntu Phone OTA-9.5 only has /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libunity-scopes.so.1.0.2 and /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libunity-scopes.so.3 :-\
[06:48] <elimisteve> Any idea how I can make it link to the right place?
[06:48] <elimisteve> I'd just create a symlink, but it's a read-only file system on the phone
[08:20] <dholbach> good morning
[08:49] <popey> elimisteve, is your scaleway server running ubuntu vivid with the stable phone ppa installed?
[08:53] <dpm> DanChapman, popey, morning! I'm updating the xenial builds on my ppa for all core apps - could you remind me how dekko is being managed in terms of code hosting now? Is code mirrored in LP and hosted in bitbucket?
[08:53] <popey> dpm, it's in launchpad/git
[08:53] <popey> git clone https://git.launchpad.net/dekko
[08:54] <dpm> so hosted in LP using git, right?
[08:58] <popey> yes
[08:59] <dpm> ok, cool
[09:23] <dpm> oSoMoN, mzanetti, good morning! Quick q: I just filed bug 1539482 for the notes app. Looks like a missing build dependency. Do you happen to know which package provides "com.canonical.Oxide"?
[09:23] <oSoMoN> dpm, liboxideqt-qmlplugin
[09:24] <dpm> awesome, thanks
[09:37] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Friday, and happy Fun At Work Day! 😃
[09:41] <mzanetti> morning Jams
[09:41] <mzanetti> James
[11:11] <popey> McIntireEvan, hey, mind if I add you to the terminal team? Then jenkins will process your merges :)
[11:25] <mivoligo> hi all
[11:26] <mivoligo> faenil sent me here
[11:26] <faenil> t1mp: ^ mivoligo is looking for a way to hide the back button in PageHeader
[11:28] <t1mp> mivoligo, faenil: PageHeader { leadingActionBar.actions: [] }
[11:29] <mivoligo> t1mp: thanks will try
[11:29] <t1mp> see the docs for "leadingActionBar" and "navigationActions" on https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04.1/Ubuntu.Components.PageHeader/
[11:30] <mivoligo> seen that but couldn't find info how to hide it
[11:32] <mivoligo> another question: why the trailing actions are displayed in reversed order since OTA-9?
[11:33] <mivoligo> is this a bug or new default?
[11:33] <t1mp> it is the new default
[11:33] <t1mp> it was decided by design
[11:34] <mivoligo> ok, thanks
[11:34] <t1mp> one reason is to support convergence, if you have a larger screen, the actions that were in the overflow may be added to the ActionBar directly
[11:35] <t1mp> so with the new order of the icons, if you add new icons they are added to the left
[11:35] <t1mp> before they were added to the right, and all the other icons were moving
[11:35] <t1mp> and design wanted the more important actions closer to the top-right corner
[11:36] <mivoligo> ok, got now, could be nice to add that to documentation ;)
[11:36] <faenil> t1mp: worth updating the doc to reflect that
[11:37] <t1mp> faenil: which doc?
[11:37] <faenil> t1mp: header's ?
[11:37] <faenil> it's a behaviour change
[11:38] <t1mp> right
[11:38] <t1mp> hmm, the order of the icons was never mentioned there
[11:38] <faenil> because I guess it's expected that they're laid out left to right
[11:38] <faenil> but if you change that, people will find it unexpected
[11:40] <mivoligo> also I'd love to see design guides updated, pretty useless atm https://design.ubuntu.com/apps
[11:40] <mivoligo> but I guess design people aren't here
[11:41] <popey> JMulholland, ^
[11:41] <popey> they are
[11:41] <JMulholland> Hi!
[11:42] <mivoligo> Hi
[11:42] <JMulholland> mivoligo: Our editorial person is currently working hard on updating/ overhauling the design guides as we speak :)
[11:43] <JMulholland> lots of changes coming to the toolkit for convergence, so the overhaul reflects that
[11:43] <mivoligo> JMulholland:  sorry if I sound rude but it's a bit frustrating to wait when you want to develop nice apps ;)
[11:43] <JMulholland> I understand completely mivoligo
[11:43] <mivoligo> JMulholland: thanks for good news!
[11:44] <dpm> popey, what is this MP for? Just asking out of curiosity, as I saw lots of new contributions to Terminal - https://code.launchpad.net/~verzegnassi-stefano/ubuntu-terminal-app/layouts-q-argument/+merge/283786
[11:44] <JMulholland> if you have any suggestions/ questions I’m sure Steph wouldn’t mind hearing from you (she’s working on the new guide)
[11:44] <JMulholland> stephanie.wilson@canonical.com
[11:46] <mivoligo> JMulholland: I can't think of any specific question right now, will wait for the update
[11:48] <DanChapman> dpm, hey! which ppa did you install dekko from? I'd like to take a look at the build log as there's something not right
[11:50] <dpm> hey DanChapman - I updated my personal core apps PPA to xenial, and I noticed I had an old 0.5 build there, so I updated the dekko build to 0.6 -> https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial
[11:50] <popey> dpm, fixes the fact that if you specify -q (which lets you specify where the main qml file is) it can't find the keyboard overlays
[11:51] <dpm> DanChapman, build logs -> https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/+recipe/dekko-daily
[11:52] <dpm> popey, ok, thanks
[11:52] <popey> dpm, but we don't use -q anywhere that I can tell, so probably not well tested, which is why it was broken
[11:54] <dpm> ack
[11:55] <DanChapman> dpm, thanks! i'll take a look. Although it seems as if it's using the qml files from a previous 0.5 rel
[11:55] <DanChapman> s/rel/build
[11:59] <dpm> popey, when you've got a minute, could you look at https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/fix-deb-build/+merge/284423 too? It fixes reminder's desktop package, but for some reason I could not get the local build to finish tests, perhaps I don't have the right AP packages installed?
[12:00] <DanChapman> dpm aha! so the qml files are being installed to /usr/share/dekko.dekkoproject/qml/* but Dekko is loading them from .local/share/dekko.dekkoproject/qml you must have an outdated directory there that Dekko finds first when checking the standard locations for main.qml
[12:01] <DanChapman> i'll update the bug report
[12:03] <dpm> DanChapman, awesome, thanks. Now I'm getting "Authentication failed" when using my personal @gmail account from the desktop, although I used the right e-mail/passwird. I don't have 2f auth on this one, any ideas what could have gone wrong?
[12:08] <DanChapman> Yeah the google provider on desktop is broken. I'm not sure what's required to get google OA working on desktop, and some of the google setup code is expecting it to be an OA. For now you need to use the IMAP account option when configuring an account.
[12:08] <DanChapman> dpm ^
[12:09] <dpm> ok, will try that, thanks!
[12:09] <DanChapman> np :-)
[12:10] <dpm> mardy, is there a way to get unity 8 UOA working on a unity 7 desktop for testing purposes? Just asking in case there is an easy way. If it's convoluted, or if it breaks my desktop, I'll pass :)
[12:11] <popey> dpm, yeah, i tested that earlier, and it won't pass tests here either
[12:11] <dpm> popey, does it freeze for you on the first test as well?
[12:11] <popey> dpm, they're qmltests though, not ap, aren't they
[12:11] <popey> knowing how much mzanetti hates AP :)
[12:12] <dpm> I didn't get that far to look at which kind of tests they were
[12:12] <dpm> but I know reminders used to have both types, AP + qml
[12:12] <popey> rebuilding now to take a look
[12:13] <popey> am building on xenial here
[12:13] <dpm> DanChapman, it seems I had a leftover gmail account from a previous Dekko desktop installation. What's the best way to delete it? I don't seem to be able to do so with through the UI
[12:13] <dpm> oh, I can :)
[12:13] <dpm> just noticed I can right-drag the account to delete it
[12:14] <DanChapman> yeah it's not very clear :-) I still need to add a delete action to the header of the accounts settings
[12:15] <dpm> DanChapman, np :) Ok, tried to setup my @gmail.com account as generic IMAP, but that got me "Authentication failed" too. Any pointers?
[12:15] <popey> dpm, looks like it's failing top launch the app, it core dumps with some QEGL error
[12:15] <popey> like it should be running on device, not a desktop
[12:15] <popey> so I am not convinced this has ever worked on a desktop
[12:16] <DanChapman> dpm take a look in ~/.cache/dekko.dekkoproject/logs/IMAP/* you should see a reason & with google usually a support link.
[12:17] <dpm> popey, I had been running reminders on the desktop for quite a while, but not in recent months
[12:18] <dpm> DanChapman, seems there are no logs (only from the old account I deleted)
[12:19] <dpm> DanChapman, ah, could it be https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255 ?
[12:20] <DanChapman> dpm, yeah that's probably it.
[12:20] <DanChapman> google make all this really awkward.
[12:20] <dpm> bummer, not sure I want to activate "enable less secure apps access" without knowing what it is. Sounds scary
[12:23] <DanChapman> dpm it's just a mechanism to prevent 3rd party apps from storing or sending you password directly to google. They prefer you to use OAUTH and the less secure apps policy enforces that. But the fact you have to enter your password to receive the error makes the policy moot in my opinion.
[12:25] <dpm> ok
[12:27] <dpm> DanChapman, so when using this latest build on the desktop, will I get to see the latest dekko convergence features?
[12:29] <DanChapman> dpm yep :-) And you should get desktop notifications as well
[12:29] <dpm> ooooh :)
[12:30] <dpm> waiting for e-mail to get synced, I can already see the side panel
[12:30] <dpm> seems it's not doing anything, though, the progress indicator disappeared
[12:33] <popey> JMulholland, https://docs.google.com/document/edit?hgd=1&id=1810KDpFl2Mxsn1z3wehPU9pkbS6R6o-j1-pmYpkYb7A#heading=h.jh8j7gb6bo0s linked from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-location/+bug/1351299 is private, can you ask whoever owns it to open it up pls?
[12:33] <popey> JMulholland, also, a gentle nudge to design that an order or two of magnitude more people _can't_ see those documents than those who _can_ :)
[12:35] <DanChapman> Check in the accounts settings that "Default account" is selected. Sounds like it's not automatically selecting your Inbox folder. But changing folder or re-selecting Inbox should force messages to load
[12:35] <DanChapman> dpm ^
[12:38] <dpm> DanChapman, that seems to be it. Progress indicator going now. Should I file a bug for non-default e-mail account?
[12:39] <DanChapman> dpm, yes please.
[12:39] <dpm> Dekko on a desktop looks stunning!!! good work
[12:40] <DanChapman> thanks :-)
[12:40]  * dpm starts using it
[12:44]  * dpm starts filing bugs
[12:47] <popey> heh
[12:47] <popey> DanChapman, we close to a store upload? :)
[12:47] <popey> *closer
[12:47] <popey> :)
[12:49] <DanChapman> popey, yeah just these darn icons not loading in the nav drawer on krillin to figure out. Works fine on desktop & mako
[12:55] <popey> nice
[13:09] <dpm> popey, DanChapman, what is the situatioon with push notifications for dekko and "stealing" them from the gmail webapp for gmail accounts?
[13:10] <dpm> bbiab (lunch)
[13:11] <DanChapman> dpm, notifications is top priority after this update is out. Regarding how it will work with the gmail notifications is still unclear
[13:44] <mivoligo> JMulholland: one more question, do you guys have images/font used for "14.04" on this image for all the number from 0 to 9?  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/UBN00216-1.jpg
[13:45] <dpm> DanChapman, thanks. Which part do you think we still need to figure out for the gmail notifications?
[13:53] <DanChapman> dpm it's mainly how a user will decide/select which app the gmail notifications should go to. And dekko would require different info encoded in the notification to what the webapp requires. So i think the polld plugin would need to be aware of the users preference.
[14:03] <TheEagerPadawan> having issues compiling nmap 7.01 on ubuntu mate 15.10 -> http://0bin.net/paste/4tOsjljQLt1e0dW2#YrDx4a73m2eGN9826yoWhXzGOGszYGOxnUfMu4xL1EV
[14:31] <renatu> popey, I update my Mr based on yours, it will only update the qtquick import to use the version 2.4: https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/ubuntu-calendar-app/sdk-1-3/+merge/284454
[14:31] <renatu> popey, who is the guys that I can ask for review my MR? I hame a couple of MR that needs review
[14:47] <JMulholland> mivoligo : It’s not a font, as far as I know they we’re image assets, trying to see if theyre available anywhere for you now.
[14:56] <micael> Hi, what are the options to develop apps to ubuntu phone
[14:56] <micael> official and not
[15:04] <renatu> popey, The new event bottom is not visible on the header anymore, is that correct?
[16:03] <popey> renatu, hm, i thought we moved it to the menu on the right... where did that go?!
[16:04] <renatu> popey, I found a way to create events by clicking on the time int the view
[16:04] <popey> renatu, right, but i think the button should still be in the menu...
[16:05] <popey> did I make a mistake on my merge?
[16:05] <renatu> popey, yes I agree, I think it was removed on the branch that you are based on
[16:06] <popey> hm
[16:07] <popey> will take a look, that wasnt intentional
[16:07] <renatu> popey, on your MR line 314, 533, 563
[16:10] <davmor2> micael: not sure I understand you but feel free to create app, developer.ubuntu.com will point you in the right direction
[16:10] <popey> renatu, i think i got that from Kunal's merge. The intention was to move that to the menu
[16:13] <popey> renatu, ok, I'll have to fix that, sorry.
[16:13] <renatu> popey, np
[16:39] <dpm> DanChapman, for your question about the location of translations, can you remind me again how are translations handled in dekko? Are we using gettext or the Qt translations framework instead?
[16:40] <balloons> so popey, I'm looking at file manager -- anything else causing trouble?
[16:40] <popey> balloons, reminders tests seem to be failing - if you see dpm's merge
[16:40] <balloons> ack
[16:46] <dpm> popey, balloons, bug 1539482 (notes) and bug 1539494 (clock)
[16:47] <dpm> and in order of priority I'd say notes, clock, file manager
[16:47] <balloons> I know about clock -- ahayzen was working on it and bartoz was inquiring about it
[16:48] <dpm> then I'd say notes would be the one to look at
[16:48] <ahayzen> balloons, if you are talking about jenkins, most of the issues are related to not being able to click allow/deny on the location thing
[16:48] <ahayzen> for clock/weather
[16:48] <balloons> popey, and was I crazy or was it docviewer that had the issue and not file manager
[16:48] <ahayzen> and the random hits of bug 1536361 :-)
[16:48] <balloons> ahayzen, ahh, yes our experiements
[16:48] <popey> balloons, to be fair they mostly all do
[16:51] <balloons> slave is offline on jenkins -- lovely
[17:14] <DanChapman> dpm, dekko use Qt's translation framework
[17:15] <dpm> DanChapman, ok, in that case I've added some extra info to the bug that I hope it's useful
[17:15] <DanChapman> dpm, thanks! I'll take a look
[18:07] <renatu> popey, how do I run calendar autopilot?
[18:07] <popey> renatu, on phone or laptop?
[18:08] <renatu> laptop
[18:08] <popey> cd tests/autopilot && autopilot run calendar_app
[18:08] <popey> I think
[18:09] <popey> balloons, is the expert here :D
[18:10] <ahayzen> popey, what about http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calendar-dev/ubuntu-calendar-app/trunk/view/head:/README.autopilot ;-)
[18:13] <McIntireEvan> popey: Few hours late here, but that'd be great!
[18:13] <renatu> ahayzen, thanks
[18:19] <balloons> renatu, there's also lovely readme's with the branch
[18:20] <balloons> on the desktop I would run via sandbox; autopilot3-sandbox-run -X --windowmanager ratpoison -s 400x600x24 calendar_app
[18:26] <renatu> balloons, are you a calendar app dev?
[18:27] <balloons> renatu, not at all
[18:28] <renatu> popey, we could use bottom edge for "new event" action
[18:49] <popey> renatu, that would be good, we did consider that numerous times.
[18:49] <popey> McIntireEvan, okay!
[18:49] <renatu> popey, I will try that
[18:50] <popey> McIntireEvan, done, welcome to the team :D
[18:50] <popey> renatu, awesome
[18:51] <McIntireEvan> popey: Thanks!
[18:52] <McIntireEvan> BTW, I'm trying to debug on an emulator, but when it builds the package for the emulator, I get an error that's caused by libpam0g being missing, obviously I can just apt-get that library when normally building, but it still says it's missing for this
[18:53] <McIntireEvan> I also tried installing the i386 version of the library alongside the one i have, but that didn't work. Any ideas?
[18:55] <popey> you need libpam0g-dev
[18:55] <balloons> McIntireEvan, it's probably saner to just run and debug on the desktop
[18:55] <McIntireEvan> popey: Err sorry, that is the one I have
[18:55] <popey> ok
[18:56] <McIntireEvan> balloons: The change Im testing only affects the phone version :(
[18:56] <balloons> McIntireEvan, truly only affects phone?
[18:56] <balloons> sandboxing on the desktop can mitigate that
[18:57] <balloons> btw popey, everything is failing now on jenkins, due to the good ole test dependency insanity
[18:58] <McIntireEvan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/+bug/1499994 is the bug in question, said dialog only appears on mobile, and presumably unity 8 (Which I am setting up right now)
[18:58] <popey> ugh
[18:59] <popey> McIntireEvan, i think you can force that dialog to appear
[18:59] <balloons> since things are still based on vivid, we might be hitting a big wall
[18:59] <popey> terminal -p
[19:01] <balloons> McIntireEvan, and you can also simulate a phone nicely using sandbox: autopilot3-sandbox-run -X --windowmanager ratpoison -s 400x600x2 terminal
[19:01] <balloons> *autopilot3-sandbox-run -X --windowmanager ratpoison -s 400x600x24 terminal
[19:04] <popey> news to me!
[19:06] <popey> renatu, feel free to use your uitk1.3 branch and work from that as mine is clearly broken. We can mark the others as rejected
[20:00] <ahoneybun> heyo
[20:00] <ahoneybun> I'm getting this error: debsig: Origin Signature check failed.
[20:01] <ahoneybun> everytime I try to manually install a .click
[20:01] <ahoneybun> it has happened on 2 different packages
[20:07] <popey> where did the package come from?
[20:14] <ahoneybun> one is mine, Ubuntu Beginner and the other is the Open Store
[20:14] <ahoneybun> I can't seem to get the SDK to deploy my app
[20:14] <ahoneybun> so I was sideloading it kinda
[20:15] <balloons> you have to disable signature check when you sideload
[20:15] <balloons> as you haven't signed it
[20:16] <ahoneybun> oh but what about the SDK
[20:16] <balloons> SDK does that when it sideloads
[20:16] <ahoneybun> rsync is giving me code 11
[20:16] <ahoneybun> from the SDK
[20:16] <ahoneybun> ohhh
[20:17] <ahoneybun> .excludes
[20:17] <ahoneybun> but I see it in the SDK but not in the file manager..
[20:18] <DanChapman> mardy, hey! i'm getting this click warning for dekko "'account-application' is deprecated in ubuntu-sdk-15.04.1-qml: use 'accounts' hook instead" but i can't find any documentation for what i actually need to change
[20:19] <DanChapman> I can't seem to find it on d.u.c
[20:19] <ahoneybun> the SDK is not making an .excludes file
[20:29] <elimisteve> popey: my Scaleway server is running Wily. If I try Vivid, think it'll link against the right version of libunity-scopes? I'll try that next, thanks!
[20:29] <popey> that's what I'd do
[20:29] <popey> add the stable overlay ppa tho
[20:30] <elimisteve> popey: "...ubuntu vivid with the stable phone ppa installed?" Is that this? https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay
[20:30] <popey> yes
[20:30] <popey> thats what the phone runs
[20:30] <popey> (and all my chroots)
[20:31] <elimisteve> Awesome, thank you!
[20:31] <elimisteve> I'm soooo close lol, down to 1 shared library link failure
[20:31] <elimisteve> god I hope this works
[20:45] <ahoneybun> balloons, any idea about the .excludes file
[20:45] <ahoneybun> ?
[20:45] <ahoneybun> rsync: failed to open exclude file /home/aaron/Projects/2.0/.excludes: No such file or directory (2)
[20:45] <ahoneybun> oh
[20:46] <ahoneybun> and that worked
[20:47] <ahoneybun> mm Components 1.3 does not work well with my tabs lol
[21:18] <DanChapman> mardy, nvm figured it out :-) although changing to the "accounts" hook resulted in the user having to re-add those accounts.
[21:33] <ahoneybun> mm did tabs change a lot
[21:33] <ahoneybun> ?
[21:47] <ahoneybun> I keep getting "ListItem.Standard - ListItem is not a namespace" but I removed all ListItem.Standard on that page
[21:50] <renatu> popey, https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/ubuntu-calendar-app/sdk-1-3/+merge/284454
[21:50] <renatu> popey, I will on bottom edge stuff based on this branch
[21:51] <popey> renatu, nice one, will take a look, thanks
[21:52] <popey> jdstrand, you about, we have some confusion when uploading dekko to the store (cc DanChapman )
[21:54] <popey> wtf, 0.6 passes here DanChapman
[21:55] <DanChapman> popey that's the one I would prefer to publish as i've tested the OA parts thouroghly in that one. 0.6.1 requires the user re-adds the account which isn't so pleasent
[21:55] <popey> actually DanChapman 0.6 was only a warning anyway
[21:55] <popey> i see no fails in 0.6 in the store, and passes locally here
[21:55] <DanChapman> so I can re-upload that one?
[21:56] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14702835/
[21:56] <popey> no
[21:56] <popey> no need to re-upload. I think I can approve 0.6
[21:56] <popey> lets see
[21:56] <popey> jdstrand, ignore me, conflict between my laptop and store
[21:56] <DanChapman> that would be even better.
[21:56] <popey> done
[21:56] <popey> :D
[21:57] <DanChapman> \o/ cheers popey :-D
[21:57] <popey> you can set 0.6.1. to no longer need manual review I think
[21:57] <popey> No, thank YOU!
[21:57]  * popey raises a glass
[21:58] <DanChapman> and published. :-)
[21:58] <popey> Sweet!
[21:58] <popey> pmcgowan, ^ new dekko in the store
[21:59] <popey> ooh, you did new screenshots too
[21:59] <popey> sweeet!
[21:59] <pmcgowan> nice cant wait
[21:59] <DanChapman> yep :-)
[21:59] <popey> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/site_media/appmedia/2016/01/screenshot20160129_194029453.png
[21:59] <ahoneybun> I'm having issues with ListItems and linking to ext .qml files
[21:59] <popey> you don't think that's a little sad, asking yourself out for dinner? :)
[22:01] <DanChapman> Hahah wrong image. :-D me changes for the correct one
[22:03] <DanChapman> ahoneybun, what issue you having? not sure i understand your last comment :-)
[23:26] <ogra_> DanChapman, hey, shiny new dekko ... how do i open a mail now ? tapping the entry only gets me a buzz
[23:27] <ogra_> (or moves the highlight .... but it doesnt open the mail)
[23:29] <ogra_> aha
[23:29] <ogra_> i had "start offline" enabled (i dio that when traveling) ... seems then it doesnt open any mails at all