[08:20] <dholbach> good morning
[08:46] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[08:46] <popey> morning
[08:46] <popey> feeling better dholbach ?
[08:47] <popey> i had some orange juice for breakfast today and pretended it cost me $5
[08:47] <popey> was delicious
[09:18] <czajkowski> lol
[10:03] <popey> Also, I make better poached eggs than the hotel.
[10:03] <popey> nom nom nom
[10:58] <davidcalle> popey: yes, but do they cost $30?
[13:47] <dpm> dholbach, have you happened to test the unity 8 session on xenial?
[13:48] <dholbach> dpm: I haven't tried it for a longer while
[13:48] <dholbach> dpm: what is it like?
[13:49] <dpm> dholbach, it didn't work for me, but then I had an old installation of the unity8-lxc session, and I'm thinking they might be conflicting
[13:49] <dholbach> I'm curious now :)
[13:49] <dholbach> brb :)
[13:49] <dpm> popey, davidcalle_3g, have you happened to test the xenial unity 8 session? ^
[13:50] <popey> not recently
[13:50] <popey> My only xenial machine runs an nvidia card, so it's a pain to test
[13:50] <dpm> let's ask dholbach when he's back
[13:51] <dpm> I'm still on 15.10 on my laptop, but I switched to xenial on my desktop pc after coming back from Ubucon
[13:51] <dpm> so far it seems to have improved on the department of 15.10 having X crashes all of the time
[13:52] <dpm> next thing I'd like to try is the unity 8 session, as we get lots of questions about unity 8 on the desktop
[13:52] <dpm> but I think my old unity8-lxc install broke what we ship in xenial
[13:57] <popey> 14.04 laptop and 16.04 desktop here
[13:58] <popey> \o/ late lunch
[13:59] <dpm> talking to willcooke it seems it's not installed by default. Will try to install unity8-desktop-session-mir and give it a go
[14:07] <dholbach> hum... I couldn't login
[14:10] <willcooke> dpm, saw your question, but I got kicked off the Canonical IRC server and now I'm getting auth failures
[14:10] <dholbach> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1539614
[14:13] <dpm> willcooke, np, I was asking about the plan for the unity 8 session
[14:13] <dpm> dholbach, seems that bug is private?
[14:13] <dpm> dholbach, Will mentioned that the unity 8 session is not installed by default yet
[14:14] <dholbach> dpm: it's a crasher bug
[14:14] <dholbach> they always start as private until they're retraced
[14:14] <dholbach> dpm: right, I installed it manually
[14:22] <dpm> dholbach, so you installed unity8-desktop-session-mir and it resulted in a crash when you logged in?
[14:23] <dholbach> yes, I installed some additional unity8* packages too, but I can't remember since it was a long time ago already
[14:24]  * dpm tries installing the *session-mir package
[14:31] <dpm> dholbach, so yeah, it crashed here too
[14:43] <willcooke> wfm
[14:43] <willcooke> \o/
[14:53] <dholbach> dpm: is it also unity8-dash which crashes for you?
[14:53] <dholbach> dpm: does the crash look similar to https://launchpadlibrarian.net/235660153/ThreadStacktrace.txt?
[14:53] <dpm> dholbach, I managed to get it working after trial and error, or rather trial and lottery :)
[14:54] <dholbach> oh... so you just tried over and over again?
[14:54] <dholbach> dpm: can you maybe look in /var/crash anyway and see if there's anything recent in there?
[14:54] <dpm> After deleting the contents of ~/.cache/upstart and rebooting, I could get into the session
[14:54] <dholbach> oh ok
[14:54] <dholbach> let me try that
[14:54] <dholbach> br
[14:54] <dpm> I have two crash reports there, for unity and the dash
[14:54] <dholbach> brb
[14:54] <dpm> dholbach,
[14:54] <dholbach> ok
[14:54] <dpm> a caveat:
[14:55] <dpm> even after logging into the session, it seems apps don't start
[14:55] <dholbach> can you report them by just running ubuntu-bug on them? maybe they're the same as the crash I saw earlier
[14:55] <dpm> not sure
[14:55] <dpm> ah
[14:55] <dholbach> all right, brb
[14:55] <dpm> the crash logs
[14:55] <dpm> sure
[14:55] <dholbach> the .crash files
[14:55] <dholbach> cool
[14:55] <dholbach> :)
[15:02] <dholbach> no, didn't work for me either
[15:02] <dholbach> moving .cache/upstart made X crash and I couldn't login in either session
[15:04] <dpm> dholbach, ah, I didn't move the folder, I deleted its contents
[15:04] <dholbach> it looks like the directory is created if it's not there
[15:04] <dpm> in any case, it seems ubuntu-bug doesn't let me report the bug, as I've got some unrelated upgradable packages (which can't be upgraded)
[15:08] <dholbach> ugh
[16:36] <dholbach> all right my friends - I call it a day - see you all on Monday again - have a great weekend! :)
[16:54] <popey> Kids home from school, be afk for a little bit.
[16:54] <popey> oh, meetings, maybe not