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dufluHey all, this update seems to be broken. Can we revert please? android-headers (23-0ubuntu1) xenial; urgency=medium02:08
dufluhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/android-headers/+bug/153933802:08
ubot5Launchpad bug 1539338 in android-headers (Ubuntu) "Mir fails to build on xenial today: android_graphic_buffer_allocator.h:23:31: fatal error: hardware/hardware.h: No such file or directory" [Critical,New]02:08
dufluRAOF: ^ ?02:12
dufluThe changelog says it has symlinks for compatibility. But it doesn't02:12
duflukgunn ^ ?02:14
duflurobert_ancell: ^ who do I pester for this?02:16
robert_ancellduflu, no idea, sorry02:17
robert_ancellduflu, I would have asked kdub02:17
duflurobert_ancell: It's not the contents of the package that's broken, just its installation method (missing symlinks) that faenil changed02:18
dufluSo not a kdub thing02:18
robert_ancellI have no idea who manages the android stuff in Ubuntu02:19
duflurobert_ancell: Basically I'm just asking for a revert from the archive. Back to the previous working version02:19
robert_ancellduflu, well, you should probably get the uploader to fix it, otherwise an archive admin if it was critical02:20
dufluOh, except upgrades won't see that. We'd need another update or something02:20
RAOFduflu: Now back from lunch, hm. That seems suboptimal!04:17
RAOF(Incidentally, this is why Mir should have DEP-8 tests)04:17
dufluRAOF: Yeah I also have a workaround/fix for Mir proposed now.04:17
RAOFI'll just upload a fixed package.04:17
dufluAlthough suspect android-headers retains the right to break things as time goes on04:17
dufluWhich we will always need to follow04:18
dufluI would like us to be able to #include <android/...> as we do right now. The change to android-headers breaks that though04:19
dufluarguably breaks it correctly. But that doesn't help Mir to be buildable on wily and vivid still04:19
dufluDear Ubuntu: Stop breaking things04:19
duflukthxbye04:19
RAOFandroid-headers is a package entirely of our creation. If we don't want it to break things it doesn't have to.04:20
dufluMaybe Mir needs to return to internal copies of android-headers...04:20
dufluIf it's an Ubuntu-only package then that's another good reason. Long term, Mir should not depend on things that only exist in Ubunt8u04:21
dufluUbuntu too04:21
RAOFOh, of course.04:27
RAOFIt's an upgrade bug.04:27
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=== Sheeda_ is now known as Basheer
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hikikohello06:14
pittiBonjour tout le monde !07:28
didrocksgood morning07:54
willcookemorning all08:49
didrockshey willcooke08:51
seb128hey willcooke08:51
willcookehow goes the travel so far?08:52
willcookeAre you just about to leave?08:52
seb128leaving after lunch for me08:52
didrocksleaving in 30 minutes for me08:52
larsumorning!09:06
seb128hey larsu!09:08
willcookehey larsu09:08
seb128how is Brussel today?09:08
larsubonjour seb128 and willcooke!09:09
larsuseb128: hackfest is smaller (or it's too early)09:09
larsueveryone's hacking09:09
seb128how many people came to the hackfest?09:11
larsuseb128: about 25-30 I think09:12
seb128waouh09:12
seb128crazy09:12
pittibonjour didrocks, seb128, et larsu ! salut de Bruxelles !09:12
seb128larsu, is that the record of people at a GTK hackfest from all times?09:13
larsupitti: salut and welcome :)09:13
didrocksbonjour pitti !09:13
larsuseb128: dunno - haven't been to all of them :D09:13
seb128k, usually it seemed to be less than 10 people09:13
larsuseb128: I think the one 2 years ago was similar in size. Colocating it with FOSDEM certainly helps09:13
Laneyhi09:13
Laneyand bye!09:13
larsumorning Laney!09:13
pittihey Laney!09:14
larsuenjoy your trip09:14
Laneyjust checking that ssh is all set up :P09:14
seb128hey Laney, safe trip!09:14
didrocksmorning and bye Laney :)09:14
pittiheh, only 5 people at the systemd hackfest so far :)09:14
seb128larsu, did RH just hired another 50 people to work on GTK? ;-)09:14
Laneysee you in $hours!09:14
didrockssame Laney!09:14
seb12825 people is a crazy number for an hackfest09:14
pittiLaney: safe trip!09:14
larsuseb128: haha I don't think so09:14
seb128k :-)09:15
larsupitti: better than last year, when it was *packed*09:15
seb128larsu, pitti, are your hackfest close from each others?09:15
seb128larsu, be nice, send some people to pitti :-)09:15
larsulol09:16
larsunot really09:16
pitti7 mins walking from Buxelles Central09:16
didrocksmy train is still near Montélimar, I should be able to walk the 1km between the station and my home before it arrives in Lyon: http://bit.ly/1QJUblM09:16
larsusystemd is in the center09:16
larsuwe're 6 or so stations out east09:16
seb128didrocks, oh, sncf has real time tracking now?09:17
didrocksseb128: yeah, for some trains ;)09:17
seb128nice09:17
faenilduflu: I changed? symlinks? where?09:25
duflufaenil: android-headers backward compatibility was broken (presumably because the symlinks you mentioned don't exist). RAOF fixed it and I fixed Mir to work around it too.09:26
dufluNo problem now09:26
faenilduflu: I'm puzzled...sorry...let me have a look at the bug09:28
faenilI didn't touch anything..09:28
duflufaenil: /usr/include/android is empty. Also not a symlink.  :)09:28
dufluSo existing users broke09:28
* didrocks now goes, see you in Brussels for most of you!09:28
faenildidrocks: see you there!09:28
faenilduflu: are you sure you're talking about me?09:29
duflufaenil: Oh crap. Sorry! Somehow I confused you for morphis09:30
dufluToo many things going on09:30
faenilduflu: gah, I had a heart attack! :D09:30
dufluLuckily for me EOW soon09:31
faenilI saw you talking to RAOF and I was like "I don't even know what that package is about..." XD09:31
dufluHeh09:31
faenilbut since I've been reporting plenty of bugs lately I thought maybe my bad memory tricked me :D09:31
* faenil calms down 09:31
willcookemega lolz10:09
willcookehikiko,  you know how I said "there's very little chance of a regression....."10:09
willcookeby desktop environment just crashed out and put me back at the login screen10:09
willcooke*my10:09
willcookeThat's probably because I was playing with ccsm10:09
didrocks1on the train again \o/10:14
larsudidrocks1: yay10:15
dufluwillcooke: After spending a couple of years maintaining Compiz I can confidently say hikiko could not have broken it significantly more than it already was :)10:44
willcookeduflu, :D10:45
dufluwillcooke: Reloading Compiz plugins is dangerous. And the reason is usually the plugin called unityshell. It gives Compiz a bad name.10:45
willcookehaha10:45
dufluAnd some others, I forget10:45
willcookeWe're revisiting this one:10:46
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/129338410:46
ubot5Launchpad bug 1293384 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Compiz CPU usage dramatically increased in Ubuntu 14.04" [Medium,Triaged]10:46
dufluYay. I don't want to know.10:46
* duflu -> weekend10:46
willcooke:D10:46
dufluo/10:46
willcookeduflu, I'll ask you on Monday, it's fine10:46
willcookedarn10:46
hikikowillcooke, did you fix it?10:48
hikikoor is it still broken?10:49
willcookehikiko, oh, it was just a crash, ain't no thing10:49
willcookeI was dicking around with CCSM10:49
hikiko:)10:49
andyrockmorning10:49
willcookehey andyrock10:52
didrocks1willcooke: my beautiful warning first time you start CCSM isn't there for nothing :p10:53
didrocks1hey andyrock10:53
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willcookedidrocks1, :D:D:D10:53
* didrocks is quite impressed with the 4G keeping the connection on the TGV (we are at full speed now)10:53
willcookenice!10:54
larsudidrocks: what happens when you cross the border? :P11:02
seb128he becomes didrocks_11:02
larsulol11:03
didrockslarsu: I don't plan to stop at Strasbourg :p11:05
didrocks#troll11:05
larsuhah11:05
larsuts ts ts11:05
seb128it is friday after all!11:07
* didrocks is at mickey's place11:47
willcookedidrocks, SING THE SONG11:50
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=== hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln
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xnoxdamn, did i just miss him?13:49
xnoxwho else is in brussels already?13:49
larsuxnox: everyone13:51
xnoxlarsu, great. is there a google group hangout for that, or no?13:51
* xnox just checked in.13:51
larsuxnox: err, I don't know :)13:52
larsusome of us are at the systemd hackfest13:52
larsuothers at gnome hackfest13:52
xnoxlarsu, fun. I wasn't invited to either #all-by-myself.13:53
xnoxand it's late anyway, i guess systemd hackfest is finishing?13:53
dpmhi desktoppers, is there anyone around who knows about the unity 8 session in xenial?13:53
Trevinhodpm: not really... I guess it's something more related to bregma's team?13:54
willcookedpm, seb is probably your best bet, but he's travelling13:54
xnoxi wonder if i should gate crash13:54
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* xnox found a google event which says that "you are invited"13:54
dpmyeah, I was trying to ping him, but I guessed he'd be on his way to fosdem13:54
dpmwillcooke, Trevinho, do you happen to know if it's already shipped by default on xenial and if it's supposed to be working? The reason I'm asking is because trying to test it, it didn't work for me. But I had an old unity8-lxc installation which I think might have been conflicting13:55
larsuxnox: noone's invited to anything :)13:56
willcookedpm, it's not installed by default13:56
larsuxnox: Laney and didrocks arrive shortly and I'll head over to meet them soon too13:56
xnoxlarsu, the #fosdem model.13:56
larsuyep13:56
xnoxlarsu, hm, keep in touch =) i'll go to the systemd thing. it's around the corner.13:57
dpmwillcooke, aha! Would you or someone in the team know what needs to be installed to test it?13:57
larsuxnox: I'm here as well ;)13:58
willcookedpm, I think the meta package is called unity8-desktop-session-mir13:58
larsusee you in a bit13:58
dpmwillcooke, ok, thanks!13:59
willcookelarsu, when you see Laney could you ask him to check his email?  There is a question from IS which needs an answer so they can complete his server set up.14:16
Sweet5harklarsu: you at betacoworking?14:53
davmor2willcooke, Laney: was there a recent change to the notification system? Claws mail is showing popups but is nolonger showing numbers or triggering the indicator to change colour15:02
willcookedavmor2, dunno, there is an issue with numbers and the Ubuntu font atm15:08
willcookemight be unrelated15:08
willcookeI very much doubt anything has changed in notifications though15:09
davmor2willcooke: everything else seems to work so it might be the numbers thing happened on one of the updates this week would that tie in with that15:09
davmor2let me try thunderbird and see if I see the same issue there15:12
larsuSweet5hark: nah, in the city at the systemd haclfest this afternoon15:12
larsuwillcooke: will do. I think he should get here soon15:12
Sweet5harklarsu: is that at the radison blu?15:13
larsuSweet5hark: no, Floris Arlequin15:13
larsuGrand-Place Hotel, in the Arlequin Room.15:13
larsubut I'll probably come over soon to greet didrocks and Laney15:14
Sweet5harklarsu: ah, cool. Havent seen those guys yet. They must be hiding.15:15
* Sweet5hark starts prowling.15:15
larsuSweet5hark: not sure if they've arrived yet - but they should shortly15:15
willcookeOki, early finish for me.  Off to London to explore an abandoned  Tube station15:40
willcookeHappy FOSDEM to all15:40
willcookecatch you later15:40
xnoxlarsu, Laney are you about?17:07
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xnoxLaney, there are valid reasons to go to the opening talk! get good seats for the 10am talk.21:26

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