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zequencesakrecoer_: OvenWerks: (and anyone else who will be working on our package sources): I will be renaming some bzr branches to use the standard naming scheme used for Ubuntu code09:06
zequenceDevelopment branches will all be called "trunk" from now on09:07
zequencethe shorthand (i.e. lp:ubuntustudio-default-settings) will still be the same on all packages09:07
sakrecoer_ok :)09:28
zequencesakrecoer_: If you already have a branch locally, uploading to the renamed branch will probably not work using ":parent".09:30
zequencepushing, I mean09:30
zequencenot uploading :)09:30
zequencesakrecoer_: btw, if you ever want to fool around with launchpad, just to see how it works, use this https://staging.launchpad.net/09:32
zequencesakrecoer_: OvenWerks: I updated the part in the wiki dealing with maintaining our packages. Redid the part about the source, to make it more to the point. So far, nothing about making actual changes to the source, and uploading it, but that will come later: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioPackageMaintenance10:02
zequencesakrecoer_: I put an awful amount of time doing these at one point, but I would do it in a different way today https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TeamStructure10:21
zequenceSo, feel free to simplify it, if you want. With such a small team, people tend to know what the other one is doing, without having to document it10:23
zequenceAlso, the blueprints page doesn't abslutely need to include the actual blueprints. I did that more to get an overview in text in a way you can't get from the launchpad interface https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Blueprints10:25
zequenceThink I'm going to take an easy route as far as development for this cycle goes. Want to a few improvements to -controls, such as a diagnostic tool, and some notification functions to let the user know when something is not right.15:04
zequenceAnd, when anyone wants to do anything jack based on a Ubuntu flavor, or derivative, they should be told to install -controls15:05
zequenceIf they have problems, the diagnostic tool can create a report which they can show others so that it will be easier to identify the problem15:06
zequenceAlso, we should at least make videos on basic jack usage15:06
zequenceSo, that is what I will commit to this cycle. I'll do some work on -controls before FF, and then do a couple of videos before the release15:06
zequenceNo desktop agnostic stuff, no changes to the installer at all. I don't just don't have the time, sorry to say.15:08
knomezequence, if you are planning to be involved at all with the website refresher, see backlog on this channel :)15:09
zequenceknome: Ok, thanks.15:10
zequenceknome: Great news about the theme. Yeah, I need to see it first, but I for one wouldn't require anything fancy. We do have some people who can do graphics, so in that way we could see about modding it ourselves15:12
knomeplease don't mod the main theme - do it under a child theme :)15:12
knomei can even help with that15:12
zequenceYes, of course.15:12
knomeand if the things you need are sensible, i'm happy to merge them to the main theme too15:12
zequenceOk, thanks. We should start by installing it somewhere, and start testing it.15:13
zequencesakrecoer_: ^15:13
knomeyeah, that would be a good idea, and helpful for me too15:13
zequenceI have a staging site for the old theme already, so I will set that up15:14
knomegreat!15:14
zequenceflocculant: Set already accepted that I think. He's a core member now with immense powers.15:15
flocculantyep - all sorted now15:15
zequenceOh, I did the mistake of scrolling, and forgot I had scolled15:15
knomeahah :)15:15
zequenceSo, your comment was at the bottom :D15:16
zequencescrolled*15:16
flocculantha ha 15:16
sakrecoer_zequence: knome: thanks guys! let me know where i can sneakpeak :p15:20
sakrecoer_my power alone are useless, the real power is the teamwork!15:20
sakrecoer_read you later guys! happy friday!15:21
zequencesakrecoer_: If I haven't done it by tomorrow, you may remind me. I'll set up a staging site at my webbhotell, and can give anyone ftp access so they can do stuff if they want15:21
sakrecoer_awsome!15:21
knomethe latter is true, but the former isn't; single persons can achieve things too (and even more so kickstart good thing)15:21
sakrecoer_i'll check in to morrow no doubt!15:21
sakrecoer_knome: :) true, but in this case, since i'm a complete launchpad noob, those powers alone are.. well not so handy :D15:22
cfhowlettsakrecoer_, hey15:22
sakrecoer_cfhowlett: hi!15:22
sakrecoer_i'm on the run, email? :)15:23
sakrecoer_or just shoot and i read it later :)15:23
sakrecoer_bye y'all!15:23
zequencesakrecoer_: I'll put the cops on the wrong trail for ya. Have fun!15:23
flocculantsakrecoer_ zequence - seems Ross is all sorted now \o/ left the release team18:36
zequenceflocculant: Alright. Thanks :)20:23
flocculantwelcome - glad you've finally got there \o/20:23
flocculantI'll not wander off - so if anyone needs anything I'm happy to help 20:24
zequenceOvenWerks: You ever notice ardour using a bit more RAM than it aught to?20:25
cubAbout the web, wordpress theme, I like the simplicity. Child theme and colours should be easy to work with. As long as there is a design decided in colours, look n feel, so to speak.20:28
cubZak emailed the other day, but unsure if and how much he will be able to produce before the 16.04 release20:29
cubI don't have a test site set up yet, but it seems you are already on it20:32
OvenWerkszequence: it depends on what you are displaying I think (plugins are another different thing drumgizmo or linuxsampler are huge) Let me try a fresh session21:28
OvenWerksfresh session with two audio tracks. Gnome system monitor says 148Mbytes21:31
OvenWerksxfce-taskmanager says 287.21:32
OvenWerkszequence: ardour version 4.6.161.21:33
OvenWerksArdour 4.6.0 with same session - session manager 85Mbyte, Task manager 200Mbyte.21:36
OvenWerksof note 4.6.0 is the release (optimized version) while 4.6.161 is the debug version.21:37
OvenWerkszequence: mixbus3 (release) is 90.6/205Mbytes21:39
OvenWerkszequence: my firefox (three pages of tabs) is sitting aroudn 360-400Mbytes for comparison21:40
OvenWerkszequence: wow, ardour 3.5.403 uses 323/440 Mbytes for the same session (our package for 14.04). But one of the big changes from 3.* 4.* was a lot of memeory cleanup as I recall.21:44
* OvenWerks obviouly hasn't run ardour3 for some time, it looks quite different.21:46
OvenWerks18 tracks (not much content) with eqs, 3 synths,and a few busses with reverbs and the 148MB goes up to 623MB. 21:56
OvenWerksif that is more than it ought to or not, I can't really say.21:56
OvenWerksdrumgizmo or linux sampler can use over a GB just on their own.21:57
OvenWerksI suspect the the big memory drinkers in that 623MB above are the two instances of fluid synth in there. Qsynth running standalone is 204MB22:00
OvenWerkszequence: I think we found before that task manager includes memory that is shared between jackd(bus) and all of it's clients but system monitor doesn't.22:01
sakrecoer_flocculant \o/ and yes, please stay for coffee. as in "do not wander off" <3 :)22:20
flocculantha ha 22:21
flocculantmy work is done :D22:22
flocculantnow I can just wait for MP's for me to comment on :)22:22
sakrecoer_that is awesome! now you will have the time to explain to me what you did :)22:22
flocculantI shook the tree till the broken bits fell out - then watered it a bit, all was well 22:23
sakrecoer_haha22:23
sakrecoer_gah... MP... Merge... merge... ...push? 22:25
sakrecoer_xq22:25
flocculantmerge proposal 22:25
flocculantor mr - request *shrug* 22:25
sakrecoer_YES!22:25
flocculantmp I think :)22:25
* sakrecoer_ shake the hand of Mr. Merge Proposal22:25
flocculant:)22:25
flocculantI only do testcases ... easy 22:26
sakrecoer_:) i will do qsynth sunday22:26
flocculantI will not deal with it on Sunday - got a testing irc session to run for xubuntu 22:27
flocculanthttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2016-January/011006.html22:28
flocculantjust in case you want to pop by and see what we're up to - given you now have package tracker stuff22:29
zequenceOvenWerks: When I've ran a session with ardour for a few hours, I find that it has gradually leaked memory. I only use processing plugins. No samples or instruments23:00
zequenceSame session, same plugins, about 4GB difference in RAM usage over time23:01
zequenceSomething it not right23:01

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