| bluesabre | flexiondotorg: cool | 00:38 |
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| bluesabre | krytarik, Unit193: see any changes that need to be made to the stacked branches? | 00:38 |
| bluesabre | I defer to you guys as the core pros | 00:38 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/view/head:/etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml#L26 | 05:15 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Also, http://paste.openstack.org/show/M8PGeFpA5F2yqGGfgYSA/ looks nicer. | 06:56 |
| flexiondotorg | bluesabre, Shall I submit the ubuntu-mate-base branches as merge proposals? They include the Xubuntu BASE changes plus I added xubuntu-base to xenial. | 07:48 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: While I'm at it, for shimmer-themes: http://paste.openstack.org/show/BKuDWsasvTuQmZOsAQiY | 09:07 |
| Unit193 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/KnQXLadmVDTYUolyhM7h to be more complete, actually. | 09:17 |
| bluesabre | flexiondotorg: please do. I won't be around during the day, so hopefully you'll be able to field any questions. Please also ping knome and Unit193 since they have a lot of insight of whats going on with it currently | 11:24 |
| flexiondotorg | bluesabre, Wilco | 11:24 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: yes, that had also occurred to me just recently (gmb), I'll take care of that and your other suggestions this evening | 11:25 |
| flexiondotorg | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/debian-cd/ubuntu-mate-base/+merge/284435 | 11:41 |
| flexiondotorg | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/livecd-rootfs/ubuntu-mate-base/+merge/284432 | 11:41 |
| flexiondotorg | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/ubuntu-cdimage/ubuntu-mate-base/+merge/284433 | 11:41 |
| flexiondotorg | Unit193, knome See above ^^^^ | 11:42 |
| flexiondotorg | I've pinged infinity too. | 11:42 |
| knome | Unit193, can you please review that? | 11:43 |
| Unit193 | 1. They should be stacked merge proposals... 2. That's messing with files of a past release, bad idea. 3. That's not currently going to work for Xubuntu. 4. There's a better way to do that than to hardcode release links for every version of that.. | 11:49 |
| Unit193 | That's just of debian-cd. There's also some oddity in the next one. | 11:50 |
| Unit193 | And by that, it adds both 'ubuntu-mate' and 'ubuntu-mate-base' in one section, and has a merge conflict. | 11:51 |
| flexiondotorg | Unit193, What merge conflict? | 12:01 |
| Unit193 | The big one that says '>>>> THIS' and '<<<< HERE', I believe. | 12:02 |
| flexiondotorg | The diff in the MPs do not show any conflicts. | 12:05 |
| knome | flexiondotorg, did you find the conflict in the diff? | 23:15 |
| flexiondotorg | knome, I'll look again. I was at work earlier so only glanced. | 23:17 |
| flexiondotorg | One min... | 23:17 |
| Unit193 | flexiondotorg: w3m -dump https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/livecd-rootfs/ubuntu-mate-base/+merge/284432 | grep -e confli -e '<<<<' -e '>>>>' | 23:17 |
| flexiondotorg | Yep, spotted it. | 23:20 |
| flexiondotorg | Conflict sorted. | 23:26 |
| flexiondotorg | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/livecd-rootfs/ubuntu-mate-base/+merge/284432 | 23:26 |
| flocculant | the thing is here | 23:26 |
| flexiondotorg | ? | 23:26 |
| flocculant | that while this is all well and good | 23:26 |
| flocculant | we've been trying to get this running for cycles | 23:27 |
| knome | flocculant, we're on top of it. | 23:27 |
| flocculant | and I will not try and force this through via QA - nor will I sign it off when it ends up landing in April | 23:27 |
| flocculant | it's hard enough to get people - either in testers/users or 'team' to test what we do have | 23:28 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: That's fine, means a jumpstart for 16.10 if nothing else. | 23:28 |
| flocculant | I will not be forced into a corner on this | 23:28 |
| Unit193 | Honestly, yes. If it doesn't drop soon, don't officially release the ISOs. | 23:28 |
| flocculant | Unit193: yep - fine by me :) | 23:28 |
| knome | totally. | 23:29 |
| Unit193 | Just means I can stop messing with those things. | 23:29 |
| flocculant | heh | 23:29 |
| flocculant | don't get me wrong here - I think it is a good idea for sure | 23:29 |
| Unit193 | Points still stand though, wily shouldn't be touched by these merges, and the task right now is still xubuntu-core and we may not have time for migration stuff. | 23:30 |
| flocculant | but I'm not ticking the box for something we support for 3 years like we've done for things we support for 9 months | 23:30 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: I'm starting to wonder if it were to land right now if releasing would be a good idea, thinking holding off anyway might be good. | 23:30 |
| flocculant | I'd rather it was rock solid ( or as solid as we get) | 23:31 |
| flocculant | I'd want to see upgrade results | 23:31 |
| flocculant | xubuntu-core>x-desktop and images to suit seems like a really sensible thing for us to do | 23:32 |
| flocculant | all for it | 23:32 |
| flocculant | but not going to be browbeaten :) | 23:32 |
| Unit193 | Xubuntu has gotten far enough away from my ideal I don't even like to re-install in VMs. :/ And yeah, upgrade paths work, or did for wily's upgrade. I should likely test again. | 23:33 |
| flocculant | and I assume -core would be a step back towards people *like* you | 23:33 |
| flocculant | and was the original impetus | 23:34 |
| knome | flocculant, i'm about to add a "done" work item for you in the bug blueprint. just let it be; i want to see if that fixes something in the tracker. | 23:34 |
| knome | flocculant, and done. more specifically, if you look at the burndown, you can see several days with clearly broken bars; this is because the tracker doesn't for some reason process the bugs blueprint | 23:35 |
| knome | flocculant, you can confirm this yourself by looking at the overview tab in the next 25 minutes :) | 23:36 |
| flocculant | looking now - and bugs is now missing from overview | 23:36 |
| knome | so i want to see if adding a work item to the blueprint can fix it | 23:36 |
| knome | or if it's something else, like something timing out | 23:37 |
| flocculant | not sure - all I know is that currently bugs is gone from tracker | 23:39 |
| knome | as long as i have any idea, it's enough ;) | 23:40 |
| knome | just wanted to explain you why i added that work item for you so you don't go deleting it | 23:40 |
| flocculant | oh I don't delete other peoples tasks - just add some :D | 23:42 |
| flocculant | -bugs is an odd one | 23:42 |
| flocculant | not sure it's trackable really | 23:42 |
| knome | it's your task :P :P | 23:43 |
| knome | i couldn't figure out any other work item for the bugs blueprint | 23:43 |
| flocculant | no - it's my blueprint | 23:43 |
| flocculant | I rarely fix bugs - just ones on the QA print (testcases) | 23:44 |
| knome | your blueprint and your task ;) | 23:44 |
| knome | anyway... just don't touch it | 23:45 |
| knome | i'll do the further debugging later | 23:45 |
| flocculant | don't touch -bugs? | 23:46 |
| knome | flocculant, that one work item in bugs | 23:46 |
| knome | ...which you obviously can't see in the tracker right now | 23:46 |
| flocculant | I don't - all I do is add stuff an expect LP to magically set to released :D | 23:46 |
| knome | Work items: | 23:47 |
| knome | [flocculant] Copy open bugs over from Wily blueprint: DONE | 23:47 |
| flocculant | I wrote that? | 23:47 |
| knome | no, i just did | 23:47 |
| flocculant | ha ha ha | 23:47 |
| knome | as i said, i just created a work item for you... | 23:47 |
| flocculant | ok :D | 23:47 |
| knome | ...and i also said DON'T TOUCH IT >:) | 23:47 |
| flocculant | don't what? | 23:47 |
| knome | i want to see if that can fix the problem with the trackre | 23:48 |
| flocculant | :D | 23:48 |
| Unit193 | Don't eat it. | 23:48 |
| knome | don't touch the tra-la-la | 23:48 |
| knome | (a good general advice for life if you are lost/unsure) | 23:48 |
| flocculant | I found touching worked better | 23:48 |
| flocculant | knome: anyway ... | 23:49 |
| knome | lol | 23:49 |
| flocculant | what I am saying is that for some reason -bugs is not showing up on tracker now - is that you? | 23:49 |
| knome | no, it's something that's failing | 23:49 |
| flocculant | aah ok | 23:49 |
| knome | either it's missing it sometimes because LP doesn't give it the information (maybe because there are no work items) | 23:49 |
| flocculant | well | 23:50 |
| knome | or because some code times out (because getting the bugs takes some time) | 23:50 |
| knome | so this is the debug measure number one :D | 23:50 |
| Unit193 | How's the Xubuntu server coming along, anyway? | 23:50 |
| knome | (eg. where the fence is the lowest) | 23:50 |
| flocculant | as I said at some point - is there any point in -bugs? is there any point in tracking -bugs? | 23:50 |
| knome | i think so | 23:50 |
| flocculant | who at some point says 'jeez dude fix that ... ' | 23:51 |
| knome | i mean, it's not a list of ALL bugs, it's a list of important bugs we try to fix for the release | 23:51 |
| flocculant | do I say knome will you please fix the highlight issue for people over 25 :| | 23:51 |
| knome | you said | 23:51 |
| flocculant | or do we leave them till loads shout | 23:51 |
| flocculant | in which case - why track it | 23:51 |
| knome | well i don't think people over 55 can shout very loud.. | 23:51 |
| * knome hides | 23:51 | |
| flocculant | really? | 23:52 |
| flocculant | pm me your phone number :D | 23:52 |
| knome | lol | 23:52 |
| knome | so.. i think i got what you were trying to say now | 23:54 |
| knome | no, nobody should tell anybody to fix the things tracker | 23:54 |
| knome | *tracked | 23:54 |
| knome | usually the person who will fix it adds it themself | 23:54 |
| knome | or somebody from the release/devel team | 23:54 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: ...We/you want the upgrade path for core tested, don't you? | 23:56 |
| flocculant | well | 23:56 |
| flocculant | Id' rather people tested things we actually seed currently, but if people can do those extras that's a bonus | 23:56 |
| flocculant | as you know we don't oush testing it | 23:57 |
| Unit193 | I haven't purged everything we seed on my xenial install! | 23:57 |
| flocculant | ! | 23:58 |
| flocculant | what? | 23:58 |
| knome | now i get it | 23:58 |
| knome | Unit193 usually purges xfce4 too and installs kde | 23:58 |
| knome | but wants to keep the mouse art | 23:58 |
| Unit193 | >_> | 23:58 |
| flocculant | knome: now I get the mail and see why you said don't delete the task | 23:58 |
| knome | :D | 23:58 |
| flocculant | knome: at least he keeps the art - I just wait for the cat to bring a disembowelled mouse home | 23:59 |
| knome | the cat is already in the slideshow! | 23:59 |
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