[11:53] <soee> win! :D https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/tomb-raider-the-awesome-2013-version-looks-like-its-heading-to-steamos-linux.6581
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:01] <lordievader> clivejo: Are you at FOSDEM?
[15:07] <clivejo> lordievader: nope Im not
[15:07] <clivejo> wishing I was though
[15:13] <lordievader> Hmm, too bad. :(
[15:13] <clivejo> yofel or sgclark about?
[15:13] <sgclark> here and there, but not completely, just doing a merge now and then
[15:14] <clivejo> would you have time to guide me through backporting plasma 5.5.4?
[15:15] <sgclark> no sorry, today is family day
[15:15] <clivejo> ok
[15:27] <soee_> http://www.cio.com/article/3027639/linux/kubuntu-founder-jonathan-riddell-to-announce-project-neon-at-fosdem.html
[16:06] <soee_> sgclark: how complex is backporting proccess ?
[16:09] <sgclark> I was using hacked up scripts to do them so overly complex. I see though that backports have been done since so maybe yofel made a cleaner way?
[16:30] <yofel> sgclark: read kubuntu-batch-backport-git, that's essentially my shell history
[16:31] <yofel> only works with unreleased stuff so far, but that'll work for now
[16:32] <yofel> you'll want to do that by hand though as we need a way to automate error-handling from do-all before we can have one script for that
[16:33] <sgclark> ah. clivejo ^
[16:34] <sgclark> soonest I could get to it is Monday, mostly afk this weekend.
[16:34] <yofel> sure, me too 11
[16:34] <yofel> ^^
[17:07] <soee_> yofel: and clivejo can do it (have access to all this) ?
[17:11] <yofel> yes
[18:24] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: you're on fire these days
[18:24] <ovidiu-florin> awesome work
[18:24] <ovidiu-florin> >:D<
[18:26] <sgclark> still many merges to go :(
[19:56] <clivejo> yofel: ping
[20:16] <yofel> clivejo: hm?
[20:16] <clivejo> trying to do these backports
[20:16] <clivejo> anything I need to know?
[20:17] <yofel> hm.. I don't think so. You just need to merge the branches and generate packages from the resulting wily branch
[20:18] <yofel> just pay attention to any errors in the commands
[20:18] <clivejo> so Im following that script kubuntu-batch-backport-git 
[20:18] <clivejo> Ive done the clone
[20:18] <clivejo> checkout and merge
[20:18] <clivejo> all seem to go pretty normal, no errors
[20:19] <yofel> ok, I didn't get any errors last time either
[20:19] <clivejo> currently on git-buildpackage-ppa
[20:19] <clivejo> but wanted to double check with you before I do a push
[20:20] <clivejo> is there anything I should look out for?
[20:20] <clivejo> or what should I be checking
[20:21] <yofel> you will have to switch the status page to wily, but otherwise the backports work the same as uploading for dev
[20:22] <yofel> theoretically there could be wily specific changes that you need to make, but most of that should already be in the backports branch, so there's little chance of you having to add anything
[20:23] <clivejo> oh I see a mistake already
[20:23] <clivejo> passed the wrong variable
[20:24] <clivejo> $stable_version is the distro version :/
[20:24] <yofel> right ^^
[20:24] <clivejo> lets try that again!
[20:25] <clivejo> I put the plasma version ie 5.5.4
[20:25] <clivejo> duh
[20:27] <clivejo> gonna have to do discover manually
[20:28] <clivejo> so all we are doing is taking the xenial_archive git and merging it into backports?
[20:29] <clivejo> does it matter that xenial_archive is still UNRELEASED?
[20:31] <soee_> http://neon.kde.org.uk/ :)
[20:41] <acher88> tried neon of a wily vm and so far so good, though not done much with it
[20:43] <soee_> well it i just starting
[20:43] <soee_> much work to be done
[21:02] <user> yofel: amarok in the kubuntu backports ppa is not functional ... but since the version number is 2.8.90 the default amarok install is overwritten
[21:04] <user> yofel: would be great if someone could either fix or remove tha package from the backports ppa
[21:11] <yofel> clivejo: yes, otherwise we would need to add another changelog for the backport
[21:12] <yofel> user: define unfunctional? But I can remove it, sure
[21:12] <clivejo> yofel: ok to start uploading them to ppa?
[21:12] <clivejo> Ill upload before I do a push?
[21:13] <yofel> order doesn't matter, but go ahead with uploading it to staging
[21:14] <clivejo> uploading now
[21:14] <clivejo> also git push to KA
[21:15] <user> yofel: i can't play any music
[21:15] <user> yofel: when pushing the play button nothing happens. fresh install. tested different phonon backends always the same
[21:16] <user> i am not really experienced with apt pinning, so i couldn't test the repo version as I went straight to backports from a fresh install 
[21:16] <yofel> and that works if you *just* downgrade amarok?
[21:16] <user> sry for that noob question, how would i do that?
[21:17] <yofel> try: sudo apt install amarok=2:2.8.0-0ubuntu6
[21:17] <yofel> you might need to downgrade a lib package too or so
[21:17] <user> i wanted to do that, it told me it does not find that version
[21:18] <user> oh i might have forgotten the 2: in the beginning ... brb, testing
[21:21] <soee_> hmm it shows 5.5.3 http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.5.4_wily.html
[21:22] <yofel> why are you always so impatient? :D
[21:22]  * clivejo bites tongue
[21:22] <soee_> ;D
[21:22] <clivejo> Im still uploading soee_
[21:22] <soee_> oki :)
[21:22] <clivejo> blame my slow internet :P
[21:23] <soee_> but mobile :D my mobile is 3x faster than cable ...
[21:23] <soee_> *buy
[21:23] <clivejo> LOL
[21:23] <soee_> though t-mobile offers me 7gb in my plan only :<
[21:23] <clivejo> I have a mobile
[21:23] <clivejo> 4G
[21:24] <clivejo> but the nearest mast is only 2G
[21:24] <soee_> clivejo: how you plan looks like ?
[21:24] <clivejo> and for that I have to hang out an upstairs window!
[21:24] <soee_> do you have some limits etc. 
[21:25] <clivejo> I was on an all you can eat tariff, but fell out with the mobile network
[21:26] <clivejo> they wont upgrade my local mast
[21:26] <kuser> yofel: i'm user, just from the other machine, it seems the downgrade did nothing :-( still the same problem with the repo version
[21:26] <kuser> yofel: any idea? it does not even give me an error ... it just does nothing when pressing play
[21:27] <soee_> clivejo: what i dont like in tmobile is a long time for updates, for example i bought new phone last week - S5 Neo but with android 5.1.1
[21:27] <soee_> and for 6.0 i will ave to wait few months :/
[21:27] <soee_> or maybe it is more related to Samsung beeing lazy
[21:27] <clivejo> soee_: yup, hate samsung
[21:28] <clivejo> load of bloatware and so slow with updates
[21:28] <soee_> +1000
[21:28] <clivejo> I rooted and installed CM13 on mine :)
[21:28] <soee_> bfore S3 i had always Sony Ericson
[21:28] <clivejo> and all the Samsung bloatware is gone
[21:28] <soee_> never tried LG or Nokia etc.
[21:29] <soee_> i try to stick with official firmware
[21:29] <valorie> user, please run from the commandline: `amarok -d --nofork`
[21:29] <clivejo> I like the Galaxy S phones, but the S6 is going the wrong way, so I think Im jumping ship with Samsung
[21:29] <valorie> and let's move to #kubuntu for support
[21:30] <soee_> clivejo: i like S5 Neo performace 
[21:30] <soee_> it has a bit slower CPU compared to S5
[21:30] <soee_> but works pretty fine
[21:31] <soee_> and i cant say anything about S6 as i bever but new phones same year they were released
[21:31] <clivejo> soee_: refresh qa page now
[21:31] <soee_> clivejo: +1 :)
[21:32] <clivejo> I need to go do discover
[21:32] <soee_> huh ?
[21:32] <soee_> packge?
[21:32] <soee_> ah yes, it fails
[21:34] <soee_> clivejo: also repos contsins plasma-discover - 5.5.3a-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1
[21:34] <soee_> while there shoudl be only 5.5.4
[21:34] <soee_> so probably this one should be removed ?
[21:35] <clivejo> it picks up the old one until the new one is uploaded
[21:35] <clivejo> and starts to build
[21:36] <soee_> ah, ok.
[21:40] <clivejo> yofel: does KCI need to be paused for backports?
[21:40] <yofel> it doesn't
[21:40] <clivejo> so Im ok for a big push
[21:40] <clivejo> ?
[21:43]  * clivejo pushs
[21:45] <clivejo> yofel: is there any way to reverse engineer a .deb binary?
[21:45] <clivejo> to get a /debian folder
[21:46] <vip> clivejo: mc?
[21:47] <clivejo> vip: whats that?
[21:47] <vip> midnight commander
[21:47] <yofel> dpkg-deb can extract the control information from a deb. But you'll only get the binary package information
[21:47] <vip> file manager
[21:47] <vip> clivejo: you just hit enter on .deb
[21:48] <clivejo> yofel: you dont happen to know where kolab keep their packaging?
[21:49] <yofel> nope
[21:55] <clivejo> yofel: hows that looking now? http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.5.4_wily.html
[21:56] <clivejo> seems to be just lintian errors/warnings
[22:01] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: how are you?
[22:03] <soee_> try the testers command
[22:25] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: MAD!!
[22:25] <ovidiu-florin> ANGRY as hell
[22:25] <clivejo> mad as in busy, or mad as in you are pissed?
[22:25] <clivejo> oh
[22:40] <mparillo> pissed in en_UK EQ drunk in en_US, right?