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brencan't install skype in 14.4 lts ... wtf00:11
Unit193https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/152306000:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1523060 in skype (Ubuntu) "Skype is not installable on trusty amd64" [Medium,Triaged]00:12
brenskype not installable on ubuntu... thats kind of a big deal.. whats the issue00:13
valorie!skype00:14
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga00:14
valorielots of people use skype00:15
valorieI don't.....00:15
valorieyou have to enable a partner PPA as I recall00:15
valorieand pay attention to the 32/64 bit issue00:16
brenDoesn't work still00:16
Unit193Yes, details in the bug I linked...00:17
brenThanx its been pissing me off00:18
ikonialast bren00:28
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cjwelbornIn Konsole/Yakuake, if I press Meta + E (or W, or R) I see a list of host names printed "::1 ff00::0 ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ip6-localnet ip6-mcastprefix localhost". I was just wondering what command this might be coming from. I can't find a keyboard shortcut set up for it anywhere.03:10
tony11hi everyone, I would have question: could you pls guys tell me what's the name of the default app in kubuntu that handles the OSD? Many thanks03:20
OerHeks!info knotify03:24
ubottuPackage knotify does not exist in wily03:24
OerHeks!info kdialog/03:26
ubottuPackage kdialog does not exist in wily03:26
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tony11I'm using 15.10 (dunno the codename)03:31
tony11I went through my processes, I can't find kdialog or knotify, but I do have both installed03:33
tony11basically I'm about to disable it, or customize it if possible cause it occupies the worst possible place on the screen03:34
tony11(the middle)03:35
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drleviathanso I was going to finally install kubuntu-15.10 on my macbook pro (currently with 14:10) but the install would not recognize the wireless or USB ethernet05:58
drleviathannot a promising sign.  I didn't want to end up with a machine that couldn't update after the install05:58
valoriedrleviathan: did you try this in a live media?06:00
drleviathanyes, bootable USB drive.06:01
valorieone thing some folks have done successfully is install a mac ISO, and then install kubuntu-desktop06:01
drleviathanyou mean... make sure the laptop is dual-booted?  or with a clean mac install?06:02
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valorieyou can always install any desktop you want on top of the Ubuntu base06:02
valoriexubuntu, lubuntu, unity, gnome, etc.06:03
drleviathanyes, I'm downloading ubuntu-15.10 now06:03
Unit193Easier to use mini.iso and install whatever task, though.06:03
drleviathanmy plan-b is to install ubuntu and then install KDE06:03
drleviathangood point... the initial download would be faster06:04
valorieUnit193: he's doing this on a mac though06:04
valorieso I was thinking one of the ISOs for mac would be easier06:04
valoriehardware-wise06:04
drleviathanmy torrent is 21% complete for ubuntu-15.10.  Will take... another 40 min I think06:04
drleviathanoh, there are specific ISO's for installing on mac?06:05
drleviathanI did not know that.06:05
* drleviathan goes looking...06:05
valoriehmmm, lubuntu old06:05
Unit193valorie: Should be intel, so maybe likely just bastardized EFI to work with, no?  And there isn't a mini for Mactel?06:05
valorieboo06:05
valoriehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04.3/release/06:06
valorienot sure about the mini06:06
drleviathanoh right, this is an EFI booting intel laptop.  2013 MBP06:06
Unit19364bit in UEFI mode doesn't cut it though?  Anywho..06:07
valoriewell, that's the LTS, you could just upgrade next April to the next LTS06:07
valorieUnit193: dunno06:07
valorie"[21:58] <drleviathan> so I was going to finally install kubuntu-15.10 on my macbook pro (currently with 14:10) but the install would not recognize the wireless or USB ethernet"06:07
drleviathanthe install would boot up, but would not setup wifi or usb-ethernet adapter06:07
valoriethat is just unusable IMO06:08
drleviathanlooks like the Mac specific images were from the previous (PPC) era.  I remember those days.06:09
Unit193There's also amd64+mac, but we can ignore those.06:09
drleviathanI guess I'll proceed with plan-b and report back fromthe other side06:10
drleviathanI think I did that once before: installed ubuntu and then upgraded to KDE for window manager06:10
drleviathanbut I didn't have the cool kubuntu branding :-(06:10
valoriesad that they aren't still being made06:11
valoriedrleviathan: kubuntu-desktop gets you the branding06:11
valorieyou might have to remove lightdm06:11
Unit193drleviathan: Can install 'kubuntu-desktop^' for the whole Kubuntu desktop.06:11
drleviathanorly?  good to know.  thanks06:11
valorieand getting rid of all the Unity stuff is a pain06:11
valoriebut I've done it successfully before06:11
drleviathanaccording to the internets the mini-iso install method is not UEFI friendly06:19
drleviathanit " lacks the proper files for booting the computer in UEFI mode" and will thus boot in BIOS compatibility mode06:20
drleviathanthere is no plan-c06:20
Unit193Bah, thought that might be the case.06:20
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acepower1000hey08:06
acepower1000anyone here08:08
acepower1000hey08:10
valorieacepower1000: that's not how it works08:12
acepower1000uh08:12
valorie!ask08:12
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:12
acepower1000sorry08:12
valorienp, many people don't realize how IRC help channels work08:12
acepower1000Im new to Linux and Ubuntu and that stuff so did I set up my partitions right? http://imgur.com/0yudIhD08:13
acepower1000_dang it firefox was being firefox08:17
acepower1000_!patience08:18
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait.08:18
denza242acepower1000_: hmm08:21
denza242I'm not sure how W10 partitioning works08:22
acepower1000_im doing the partitioning from linux08:23
denza242acepower1000_: right right08:23
denza242well from the screenshot, you're not gonna have a lot of space08:23
denza242might want to shrink the green NTFS partition and grow the EXT4 partition08:24
acepower1000_is that in change?08:24
denza242I think08:25
denza242acepower1000_: however, you should go back, and check how much free space there is on the larger ntfs partition08:25
denza242if you shrink it too much, you run the risk of losing potentially important data08:25
acepower1000_right08:26
acepower1000_denza242: how much do i shrink08:26
denza242acepower1000_: shrink it to used space + 20 gb as a safety buffer08:27
acepower1000_wait08:27
acepower1000_so do I have to go back to windows 10 to check that?08:27
denza242nah08:28
acepower1000_denza242: where then08:28
denza242acepower1000_: open up dolphin, doubleclick on the larger ntfs partition, and in the bottom right, there should be an (X GiB Free) indicator08:29
denza242with X being how many gigs are free08:29
denza242multiply the value of X by 1024, and add 20480 to that value08:30
acepower1000_http://imgur.com/SxPtVZy uhhh08:31
denza242oh dear08:32
denza242acepower1000_: you'll have to boot back into windows and perform a shutdown08:32
acepower1000_wait are the partitions made allready or is it geting ready to make them08:33
denza242the windows partitions are already there08:34
acepower1000_no i mean the linux partitions08:34
denza242getting ready to make them08:35
denza242no actual operations have been performed yet08:35
acepower1000_oh08:35
acepower1000_Ok going to reboot into windows08:36
Acepower1000there is 674 gb free space on my main windows partition and 91.80 gb free space how much do i shrink08:45
Acepower1000oh Its 8:45 AM ill do this tomorrow08:46
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samkneed help09:21
denza242samk: with what09:21
Odursamk: Ask and wait for someone to answer09:21
samkbluetooth not working in kubuntu (New to linux distros)09:23
Odursamk: fire up a terminal and type "dmesg | grep -i bluetooth" and pastebin the output09:26
samkok will do now09:27
samk[   13.864059] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.20 [   13.864086] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized [   13.864093] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized [   13.864098] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized [   13.864115] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized [   13.884446] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: chip id 70 [   13.884451] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM (001.001.011) build 0000 [   13.954504] bluetooth hci0: Direct firmware loa09:28
samkrror -2 [   13.954508] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: Patch brcm/BCM.hcd not found [   17.676554] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3 [   17.676557] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast [   17.676561] Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized [   39.057829] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized [   39.057836] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized [   39.057840] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.1109:28
Odurplease use pastebin.com instead09:28
samkok sorry new to these stuff09:29
OdurNo worries. I see you are missing the firmware for the bluetooth device. I had the same problem. Just a moment...09:29
Odursamk: What does lsusb says?09:34
samkus 003 Device 005: ID 0bda:0129 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTS5129 Card Reader Controller Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0a5c:21d7 Broadcom Corp. BCM43142 Bluetooth 4.0 Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0c45:6a04 Microdia  Bus 003 Device 002: ID 8087:8001 Intel Corp.  Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hu09:37
Odursamk: Solution here http://askubuntu.com/questions/632336/bluetooth-broadcom-43142-isnt-working-on-ubuntu09:37
samkThanx a lot Odur will try the solution. Have a nice day!!09:38
Odursamk: Good luck09:38
catopett_Is everyone sleeping here then?10:32
valorieI'll soon be -- do you have a question?10:34
valorieit may be that many people are in FOSDEM sessions this weekend10:34
catopett_FOSDEM?10:35
valoriebut it's past 2:30 am here10:35
valoriehttps://fosdem.org/2016/10:35
valoriebiggest free and open software event in the world, i think10:36
catopett_I bought UBUNTU, and payed $500 for it10:36
catopett_peer is active i see10:38
valoriehuh10:38
catopett_"/" #nrrl10:39
catopett_"/j" #nrrl10:40
clivejohi valorie10:40
valoriehi clivejo -- are you at fosdem?10:41
clivejonope10:41
clivejoin Snowy Fermanagh10:41
valorieah, you shoulda gone10:41
* valorie is in dark Washington10:41
clivejoI know, Kolab are announcing something !10:41
catopett_The LINUX is the best for hacking10:41
valorieKube, yeah10:42
catopett_Are you comming for "THE GATHERING" then?10:42
clivejoI think its something like an intregated document viewer for kolab10:43
valorieah, had not heard about that one, clivejo10:43
valoriethe gathering?10:44
clivejoWe have LibreOffice as a neighbor this year, which is a happy coincidence, as we have some interesting news for all Kolab users that is related to office documents that we will be sharing at FOSDEM. That's not the only reason to visit us, though!10:44
valoriesounds like the beginning of a suspense movie10:44
catopett_THE GATHERING yes, it is in may at he viking ship in Hamar in Norway10:44
clivejosounds exciting!10:45
clivejoI love Kolab10:46
code_witchhey10:46
code_witchI am so new here10:46
catopett_http://www.gathering.org/tg16/10:46
catopett_You have to translate this pages, it is norwegian10:47
code_witchI want to join #python #kivy channels10:47
clivejocode_witch: you might have to register your nick10:47
code_witchthose are asking me to register my nick in freenode, but when I did and use the user name i cannot connect10:47
valorie!register10:47
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode10:47
catopett_code_witch You type the "/j #python"10:47
valoriein some clients you can shorten to /j10:48
valorieothers you use /join10:48
code_witchthank you10:48
catopett_I have registered my nick, when i identify it goes ok, but... i cannot change to that nick, why?10:48
valorieor in my client konversation, I can just click on the #channel and it opens up10:49
valorieyou use /nick newnick, to change to newnick10:49
catopett_I know, i get errors10:49
valorieyou may have to fill in the information in your client about your nick10:49
clivejoif you try to change nick to a registered nick and dont give the password it wont allow you10:50
valorienick, password, and /msg chanserv identify password10:50
catopett_I gave the password10:50
valorieonce you are identified you can change10:50
catopett_Still get errors10:50
catopett_-ChanServ- Invalid command. Use /msg ChanServ help for a command listing.10:51
catopett_The chanserv does not understand "identify"10:53
mogostHi all! Can anyone help me find temporary fix for my problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/153984310:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1539843 in linux (Ubuntu) "External microphone does not work" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:53
catopett_I do type "/nickserv identify nick passwd"10:54
catopett_Then i get msg about the passwd for nick is accepted10:54
catopett_But... i cannot change to the nick, i get error10:55
valorieI'm sorry, that should have been /msg nickserv identify password10:55
catopett_Does not have to type "/msg"10:55
valoriewell, best to use the help messages from the services themselves10:56
* valorie is too tired to give good help, sorry10:56
* clivejo is too stupid to give good help10:56
catopett_I have identifyed ok for my nick, but... cannot change to this nick, error10:56
catopett_I am not new to irc10:57
catopett_Have beeng used irc since 198510:57
clivejocatopett_: of course you have10:59
clivejocatopett_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarkko_Oikarinen11:01
catopett_It was a sort of, irc in 1985 to, it was called BBS11:04
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marcellushi. I 've got a big problem with kubuntu network after last update11:08
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marcellusevery network is down11:08
marcellusno wireless, no cable, no mobile, no nothing11:08
marcellusit is all greyed out11:09
marcellusnot possible to activate11:09
marcellushello??11:36
clivejohi11:44
marcellushi. I 've got a big problem with kubuntu network after last update11:48
marcellusevery network is down11:48
marcellusno wireless, no cable, no mobile, no nothing11:48
marcellusit is all greyed out11:48
marcellusnot possible to activate11:48
clivejowhat last update?11:51
marcelluskernel ..... 7712:15
marcellusI dont remember the first numbers12:15
marcellusit ended with 7712:15
acher88so https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.13.0-77.12112:22
acher88which is is still in 'proposed' by the looks of it12:22
linuxHi12:23
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acher88marcellus: if that is the case, and the only change that might be related to networking, I would reboot and select the previous kernel12:24
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marcellusI did that, twice: to the one before and one before the other... no luck12:26
UserHi12:27
soeehiho12:27
acher88so it's not the update then. or at least, not the kernel anyway12:29
Userin synaptic What is the difference between "Mark for removal" and "Mark for complete removal "?12:31
acher881st is equivalent of:  dpkg --remove 'Remove a package (but not its configuration files)'12:34
acher882nd is equivalent of: dpkg --purge 'Remove a package (including its configuration files)'12:34
acher88or the apt-get/apt equivalents12:35
UserThank you12:35
marcellusI have to restart the laptop to check taht out12:36
marcelluslet us see if it works12:36
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BluesKajHi folks12:56
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acher88http://neon.kde.org.uk/download15:05
acher88"If you already have Kubuntu or an Ubuntu-based distribution, you can skip this step. We highly reccomend installing KDE neon over Kubuntu. "15:05
acher88"If you have an existing Ubuntu 15.10 operating system or flavour, you can install KDE neon and keep your existing system."15:05
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acher88plasma seems to be for wily on that, with a version 5.5.2+git2016010715:07
OdurHmm.. I have a fever and can't think properly right now. But is KDE Neon like Kubuntu with Riddle as maintainer?15:11
soee_It will be based on Kubuntu/Ubuntu but the main goal15:13
soee_is to provide always latest KDE Apps, Plasma15:13
Odursoee_: Seems promising :)15:14
soee_so for example, when Kubuntu has feature freeze we can't add newer Plasma etc. or sometime if we work on next Kubuntu version, there is no time to backport Plasma15:14
acher88presumably to be a quasi stable rolling option.15:14
soee_so Neon will be based on LTS Ubuntu always latest KDE stuff15:14
acher88but not as frequently broken as things like kubuntu-CI can be15:14
soee_so community released Plasma 5.6 and Neon gets it right away15:15
soee_and yes Jonathan it the head of this project15:15
acher88sounds nice in theory, but these things always do15:15
soee_but it is not liek he working alone on it :) there is whole team as as he is Plasma release manager so it is much easier to work on it15:16
acher88shall test and see where it goes once they get some xenial packages done15:16
OdurAnd this will benefit for the kubuntu packagers too i guess?15:18
soee_http://www.cio.com/article/3027639/linux/kubuntu-founder-jonathan-riddell-to-announce-project-neon-at-fosdem.html15:18
veqz_does anyone know how to configure a second touchpad? the touchpad kcm only seems to affect my laptop's built-in touchpad, and has no effect on my external logitech touchpad15:54
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BluesKajveqz, what about external touchpad set up as an external mouse?16:18
veqzthe mouse settings doesn't seem to have any effects either17:09
veqzbut I'm playing around with xinput now, so I think I'll be alright, in the end17:10
BluesKajveqz, get a mouse, that will work :-)17:11
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douglTop of the morning to ya BluesKaj17:17
BluesKajHi dougl17:17
dougl... did I ask you if you got all your snow cleared away?17:18
BluesKajyup, I did17:18
dougl... my neighbour had to come over with the tractor was the heavy wet shtuff then it froze about chest deep - good for you.17:19
douglbrb getting coffee17:19
veqzBluesKaj: haha sure :)17:21
veqzI just wanted to have an alternative, so I can vary my hand movements.17:21
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drleviathanI started last night and finished up this morning: upgraded to kubuntu-15.10 by first installing ubuntu-15.1018:46
drleviathanand then installing the kubuntu-desktop package18:47
drleviathannow I'm trying to fix various problems18:47
drleviathanthe current one is the firefox icon in the main menu... I can't seem to change it to true firefox icon18:48
ichabotwhy not directly kubuntu18:49
drleviathanI tried to install via kubuntu on USB, but it would not detect network.  neither wireless or the USB ethernet adapter18:50
drleviathanthis is on a 2013 MacBookPro18:50
drleviathansomehow it let me enter a bad password and when I was done I couldn't actually login with the default user18:51
ichabotdid you try to reinstall ff18:51
drleviathanso I booted up on a kubuntu DVD using an external drive18:52
drleviathanand that time it was able to detect the network... dunno why18:52
ichabotstrange18:52
BluesKajdrleviathan, to get the correct icons remove ubuntu-desktop, some unity icons may still be default18:53
drleviathanin any case, I fixed my password problem by setting the password of the running kubuntu user and then copying the line in shadow and shadow- into the files on the hard drive18:53
drleviathanah ok, I'll try that BluesKaj18:53
* drleviathan reboots...18:54
drleviathanwell, that appears to have worked BluesKaj, for the firefox icon in the menu19:05
drleviathanI still can't get the xchat icon to work yet19:06
BluesKajdrleviathan, xchat is no longer supported , try hexchat or konversation, or even quassel19:14
drleviathanhuh... I'm using xchat now.19:18
BluesKajor should I say xchat development is discontinued19:18
OerHeksindeed19:18
drleviathanI was able to solve my xchat icon problem by putting icons of the appropriate size in /usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/ ... etc19:18
drleviathanok I'll keep that in mind.  I might try some of the others soon to see if I like them19:19
BluesKajyeah it's still available but no longer being updated or upgraded19:19
drleviathanI'm having a hard setting up my second KDE panel... the settings menus keep disappearing out from under my mouse.19:20
drleviathanI succeeded once, but then had an invisile app icon that I couldn't remove, so I deleted the whole panel and started anew.19:21
BluesKajdunno , I just use one, but my TV is my monitor, so no need for multiples19:22
drleviathani use a small auto-hidden panel in one corner for quick launches19:22
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BluesKajthere is a quick launch in the panel beside the kmenu if you drag icons from the menu into it19:24
drleviathanyeah, I use that one too19:25
BluesKajthere is a quicklaunch in the widgets, but not sure if you have it available , since I'm on 16.0419:26
drleviathanheh, this is so frustrating it's funny19:44
drleviathanmaybe there is a text file I can edit to change the KDE panel configs19:44
drleviathanhah! I figured it out.  I had set my mouse focus to be strictly under the mouse: settings --> Window Behavior --> Activating Windows Policy20:00
drleviathanwhen I moved it back to "click to focus" I could actually edit the panel config settings again20:00
BluesKajdrleviathan, the 3 dashes stack on the far right of the panel also opens add widgets besides the right click menu context on the desktop20:06
BluesKajerr context menu20:06
drleviathanyup, and it goes away when I lock widgets down20:07
drleviathanI think maybe I've got things how I want them.20:07
kamehola20:08
drleviathanoh right... windows are snaping to the edge screen... right up to the internal window edge and I'd like them to snap to the outside border edge20:08
drleviathananyone know how to configure things to do that?20:08
kamekubuntu 15.10, es una porqueria, no puedo usar conky como antes20:08
kamemigrare a debian gnome20:09
drleviathanI translate that to: kubunto 15.10 is a porker, I can't use "conky" like before; I'm going to migrate to gnome20:09
kameXD20:09
kameyes20:09
kametambien quitaron opciones de personalización del escritorio20:10
BluesKajdrleviathan, click the stack and asmall panel with horizontal arrows appears at both ends of the panel, move the arrows in or out to resize the panel horizontally20:10
kametiene fallas de video tambien, etc..20:12
krytarik!es | kame20:13
ubottukame: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.20:13
kameen español no hay gente conectada20:13
kamevoy a probar lo del panel y les cuento20:14
kamey no me discriminen por hablar español gracias20:14
BluesKajdrleviathan, well that's your call, but don't think gnome will do what you wanr20:14
drleviathansorry BluesKaj, I was just translating the spanish (from kame) above that statement of mine.20:15
kameno es tema del panel, puedo mandar un screenshot por aca20:15
drleviathanI'm going to stick with KDE for a bit.20:15
BluesKajkame,  /j ubuntu-es20:16
kameplease help20:17
BluesKajkame, En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro20:18
kameI can send a snapshot by chatting?20:18
kameI need a little help20:18
BluesKajkame, whynot just state your issue in English if possible.20:18
drleviathanyes.  state the problem (we do not know what it is)20:19
kameyes20:19
bob2021Hey - where do i go for help with cairo-dock?20:20
* drleviathan googles cairo-dock20:21
drleviathanbob2021, I use a second KDE panel with auto-hide enabled instead of a "cairo-dock".20:22
kamein this version kubuntu 15.10 conky appears as a window on the desktop and panel, eventhough it off the edges of the window is still on the panel as an application, is a little upset, version 14.04 LTS had no problems with Conky, not to mention who took options in customizing the desktop, and I appear sometimes failures video20:22
bob2021drleviathan: yeah but i'm new to ubuntu and kubuntu so i'm trying stuff out and the cairo dock seems really coo.20:22
bob2021its just popping up sub-docks on the wrong monitor...20:23
drleviathanhuh... it does.  maybe I'll try it out.20:23
* drleviathan googles conky...20:23
bob2021drleviathan: no i mean like *really* cool20:23
drleviathanalmost as cool as the MacOSX dock?20:24
bob2021drleviathan: cooler.20:24
* drleviathan installs conky and cairo-dock just to try them out...20:25
acher88bob2021: plank dock is a bit simpler and more actively developed20:26
kamehttps://mega.nz/#!DkRVAJAJ20:27
kameplease can see my screen, this is the problem that I have with conky20:27
kameand look in google and nothing comes out20:27
acher88kame: conky misbehaves a bit with plasma 5 in some cases20:28
acher88kame: try http://imgur.com/ for your screenshot20:29
bob2021kame: try using conky-colors, it works well for me20:31
kameok i try20:31
kameyhanks20:31
acher88kame: conky may need 'own_window_type' set to 'normal' for plasma520:33
drleviathanI use "conky --help" to look at options.  You can supply a -x and -y argument to move the window exactly where you want it.20:33
kamehttp://imgur.com/qmel7bW20:33
acher88with: own_window_hints = 'undecorated,below,skip_taskbar,sticky,skip_pager'20:34
kamemy problem is not to move the window, the problem is that conky appears as a window and not stick to the desktop20:35
acher88the default examples that come with conky manager may also not be suitable for for plasma5, as they are quite old20:35
drleviathanoh... works for me (sticks to desktop)20:35
bob2021kame - use conky colors.  your issue isn't a kde issue.  its an issue with how to configure conky.l20:35
drleviathankame, did you do "apt-get upgrade" after you installed kubuntu 15.10?20:35
acher88yep. conky config needs tweaking to cope with plasma520:36
kameok20:37
kameI see so far no solution, unfortunately migrare debian gnome, depend much Conky20:38
kamethanks20:38
acher88even when you get it working not in a separate window, there are still a few bugs you might get20:38
acher88clicking on desktop can make it vanish sometimes20:38
acher88https://github.com/brndnmtthws/conky/issues/14520:38
acher88^^^ work reading, as it at least tells you how to fix existing conkyrc files20:39
kamefriends one more question, I have a 2.5GHz i5 processor, but sometimes this rises above 3.0 GHz, is normal?20:39
bob2021let's try this then:  kmail is declining to show icloud, even though it seems to connect.  can someone help?20:41
kameacher88 I'll try that option20:41
drleviathanbob2021 dude, cairo-dock is pretty cool20:41
bob2021drleviathan: told ya20:41
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bob2021drleviathan do you know where kmail stores its stupid settings20:43
bob2021goddammit why is it so hard to find a viable email client20:44
bob2021this should be a solved f'ing problem20:44
* BluesKaj just checks ksysguard once in a while20:44
drleviathanI don't use kmail, but probably in ~/.kde/share/...20:44
bob2021yeah there's a kmailrc but it doesn't have anything interesting in it20:45
acher88don't use kmail either20:45
bob2021what do you use?20:45
drleviathanbob2021, thunderbird doesn't work for you?20:45
* drleviathan uses the browser for webmail20:46
acher88is uses akonadi for storage, but presumably not account settings?20:46
bob2021drleviathan it looks like its pretty ancient, so i didn't want to20:46
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drleviathanthunderbird works well for a friend of mine, but I haven't used it in... about five or six years20:47
kamefuck plasma 520:48
BluesKaj I use t-bird because contains a small database for storing web/email on disk, came in handy when I had to find the instructions to reset the modem bridging after an ISP adsl problem20:49
BluesKaj!langauge |kame20:50
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drleviathanbob2021, I suggest you try t-bird before discarding it altogether.20:51
* drleviathan tries to figure out how to configure cairo-dock20:51
bob2021drleviathan i'd really like to get kmail working so i could use the whole k- package of connected apps20:52
drleviathanholy smokes, I found the cairo-dock settings window!20:52
bob2021drleviathan: right????20:52
acher88drleviathan: click advanced mode ;)20:53
drleviathanso... many... options20:54
bob2021so where do i go to get help with kmail?20:55
* drleviathan deletes the second plasma panel he just setup this morning and replaces it with cairo-dock.20:55
drleviathanbob2021, what is your exact problem with kmail (I'm curious).20:58
bob2021drleviathan: icloud doesn't show up in the list of folders.  The account seems to be setup properly and connecting.  I see status and progress.  But I can't actually see what's in any folders, because they don't appear in the list of accounts and folders.20:59
BluesKajbob2021, #kde perhaps20:59
bob2021thanks let me try... i'll still be here...21:00
drleviathanI've got a question: windows are snapping internal border edge to screen edge and I want them to snap to outer border edge.21:03
drleviathananyone know how to do that?21:03
gippo!list21:04
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drleviathananother question: I would like to have a _shutdown_ widget on a panel, but all I can find is a _logout_ widget.21:09
drleviathanis there a way to make an easy shutdown button?21:09
drleviathanhrm... come to think of it, I almost never acually shutdown (uptime is usually two weeks).  I guess I can live without.21:09
netrunnerHi all I am trying to install Netrunner 17 but have two problems. one the disk check comes up with a error in one file. unable to fix. Second Screen resolution is worng and normal slider is not there is system settings display. Can anyone help?21:11
drleviathanI'm happy to report: after upgradging to Kubuntu 15.10 my environment is back to an acceptable state.21:27
soee_:)21:27
valoriedrleviathan: good to hear!21:31
valorieand are you sure you don't have shutdown?21:31
drleviathanyes, but I've decided it is ok21:31
kuservalorie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14774688/21:31
valoriealternative: use krunner, alt+space and type shutdown21:32
kuservalorie: should be the relevant part ... if you wish, i could paste everything21:32
kuservalorie: this was printed when pressing the play button21:32
valorienothing unusual there21:32
valoriecan you play other sound?21:33
drleviathanthanks for that tip.  I'm not really a krunner user but I will try to remember that option.21:33
kuservalorie: absolutely nothing21:33
valorieso it's not an amarok problem, but a sound problem21:35
valoriea few people have had to restart pulseaudio21:35
valorie!pulseaudio21:35
ubottuPulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions21:35
valorieand others have had to put their user account in the audio group21:35
bob2021kuser: I am one of the people who had to add themselves to the audio group. and then restart a few times.  Also had to add myself to the video and pulse groups.21:46
bob2021then eventually it started to work21:46
bob2021drleviathan: if, while playing with cairo settings, you come across a way to say what monitor sub-docks open-up on, pls let me know.21:47
bob2021what do people use on linux instead of logmein?22:23
mparillobob2021: I have used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo to access an MS-Windows desktop from Linux. Real sysadmins just use ssh ;-)22:39
bob2021mparillo: I'm not a real sysadmin.  Sometimes, when I'm having coffee at starbucks, or at a client, I'll have some kind of realization about the processes I've left running on my machine. And I like to go in through my ipad and change things.  I use a GUI for this at the moment with logmein on os x.  I want to do the same thing with ubuntu.22:40
mparilloNeither am I. I used Citrix. Not free, but supported on my MS-Windows desktop.22:43
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