[00:11] <bren> can't install skype in 14.4 lts ... wtf
[00:12] <Unit193> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype/+bug/1523060
[00:13] <bren> skype not installable on ubuntu... thats kind of a big deal.. whats the issue
[00:14] <valorie> !skype
[00:15] <valorie> lots of people use skype
[00:15] <valorie> I don't.....
[00:15] <valorie> you have to enable a partner PPA as I recall
[00:16] <valorie> and pay attention to the 32/64 bit issue
[00:16] <bren> Doesn't work still
[00:17] <Unit193> Yes, details in the bug I linked...
[00:18] <bren> Thanx its been pissing me off
[00:28] <ikonia> last bren
[03:10] <cjwelborn> In Konsole/Yakuake, if I press Meta + E (or W, or R) I see a list of host names printed "::1 ff00::0 ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ip6-localnet ip6-mcastprefix localhost". I was just wondering what command this might be coming from. I can't find a keyboard shortcut set up for it anywhere.
[03:20] <tony11> hi everyone, I would have question: could you pls guys tell me what's the name of the default app in kubuntu that handles the OSD? Many thanks
[03:24] <OerHeks> !info knotify
[03:26] <OerHeks> !info kdialog/
[03:31] <tony11> I'm using 15.10 (dunno the codename)
[03:33] <tony11> I went through my processes, I can't find kdialog or knotify, but I do have both installed
[03:34] <tony11> basically I'm about to disable it, or customize it if possible cause it occupies the worst possible place on the screen
[03:35] <tony11> (the middle)
[05:58] <drleviathan> so I was going to finally install kubuntu-15.10 on my macbook pro (currently with 14:10) but the install would not recognize the wireless or USB ethernet
[05:58] <drleviathan> not a promising sign.  I didn't want to end up with a machine that couldn't update after the install
[06:00] <valorie> drleviathan: did you try this in a live media?
[06:01] <drleviathan> yes, bootable USB drive.
[06:01] <valorie> one thing some folks have done successfully is install a mac ISO, and then install kubuntu-desktop
[06:02] <drleviathan> you mean... make sure the laptop is dual-booted?  or with a clean mac install?
[06:02] <valorie> you can always install any desktop you want on top of the Ubuntu base
[06:03] <valorie> xubuntu, lubuntu, unity, gnome, etc.
[06:03] <drleviathan> yes, I'm downloading ubuntu-15.10 now
[06:03] <Unit193> Easier to use mini.iso and install whatever task, though.
[06:03] <drleviathan> my plan-b is to install ubuntu and then install KDE
[06:04] <drleviathan> good point... the initial download would be faster
[06:04] <valorie> Unit193: he's doing this on a mac though
[06:04] <valorie> so I was thinking one of the ISOs for mac would be easier
[06:04] <valorie> hardware-wise
[06:04] <drleviathan> my torrent is 21% complete for ubuntu-15.10.  Will take... another 40 min I think
[06:05] <drleviathan> oh, there are specific ISO's for installing on mac?
[06:05] <drleviathan> I did not know that.
[06:05]  * drleviathan goes looking...
[06:05] <valorie> hmmm, lubuntu old
[06:05] <Unit193> valorie: Should be intel, so maybe likely just bastardized EFI to work with, no?  And there isn't a mini for Mactel?
[06:05] <valorie> boo
[06:06] <valorie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04.3/release/
[06:06] <valorie> not sure about the mini
[06:06] <drleviathan> oh right, this is an EFI booting intel laptop.  2013 MBP
[06:07] <Unit193> 64bit in UEFI mode doesn't cut it though?  Anywho..
[06:07] <valorie> well, that's the LTS, you could just upgrade next April to the next LTS
[06:07] <valorie> Unit193: dunno
[06:07] <valorie> "[21:58] <drleviathan> so I was going to finally install kubuntu-15.10 on my macbook pro (currently with 14:10) but the install would not recognize the wireless or USB ethernet"
[06:07] <drleviathan> the install would boot up, but would not setup wifi or usb-ethernet adapter
[06:08] <valorie> that is just unusable IMO
[06:09] <drleviathan> looks like the Mac specific images were from the previous (PPC) era.  I remember those days.
[06:09] <Unit193> There's also amd64+mac, but we can ignore those.
[06:10] <drleviathan> I guess I'll proceed with plan-b and report back fromthe other side
[06:10] <drleviathan> I think I did that once before: installed ubuntu and then upgraded to KDE for window manager
[06:10] <drleviathan> but I didn't have the cool kubuntu branding :-(
[06:11] <valorie> sad that they aren't still being made
[06:11] <valorie> drleviathan: kubuntu-desktop gets you the branding
[06:11] <valorie> you might have to remove lightdm
[06:11] <Unit193> drleviathan: Can install 'kubuntu-desktop^' for the whole Kubuntu desktop.
[06:11] <drleviathan> orly?  good to know.  thanks
[06:11] <valorie> and getting rid of all the Unity stuff is a pain
[06:11] <valorie> but I've done it successfully before
[06:19] <drleviathan> according to the internets the mini-iso install method is not UEFI friendly
[06:20] <drleviathan> it " lacks the proper files for booting the computer in UEFI mode" and will thus boot in BIOS compatibility mode
[06:20] <drleviathan> there is no plan-c
[06:20] <Unit193> Bah, thought that might be the case.
[08:06] <acepower1000> hey
[08:08] <acepower1000> anyone here
[08:10] <acepower1000> hey
[08:12] <valorie> acepower1000: that's not how it works
[08:12] <acepower1000> uh
[08:12] <valorie> !ask
[08:12] <acepower1000> sorry
[08:12] <valorie> np, many people don't realize how IRC help channels work
[08:13] <acepower1000> Im new to Linux and Ubuntu and that stuff so did I set up my partitions right? http://imgur.com/0yudIhD
[08:17] <acepower1000_> dang it firefox was being firefox
[08:18] <acepower1000_> !patience
[08:21] <denza242> acepower1000_: hmm
[08:22] <denza242> I'm not sure how W10 partitioning works
[08:23] <acepower1000_> im doing the partitioning from linux
[08:23] <denza242> acepower1000_: right right
[08:23] <denza242> well from the screenshot, you're not gonna have a lot of space
[08:24] <denza242> might want to shrink the green NTFS partition and grow the EXT4 partition
[08:24] <acepower1000_> is that in change?
[08:25] <denza242> I think
[08:25] <denza242> acepower1000_: however, you should go back, and check how much free space there is on the larger ntfs partition
[08:25] <denza242> if you shrink it too much, you run the risk of losing potentially important data
[08:26] <acepower1000_> right
[08:26] <acepower1000_> denza242: how much do i shrink
[08:27] <denza242> acepower1000_: shrink it to used space + 20 gb as a safety buffer
[08:27] <acepower1000_> wait
[08:27] <acepower1000_> so do I have to go back to windows 10 to check that?
[08:28] <denza242> nah
[08:28] <acepower1000_> denza242: where then
[08:29] <denza242> acepower1000_: open up dolphin, doubleclick on the larger ntfs partition, and in the bottom right, there should be an (X GiB Free) indicator
[08:29] <denza242> with X being how many gigs are free
[08:30] <denza242> multiply the value of X by 1024, and add 20480 to that value
[08:31] <acepower1000_> http://imgur.com/SxPtVZy uhhh
[08:32] <denza242> oh dear
[08:32] <denza242> acepower1000_: you'll have to boot back into windows and perform a shutdown
[08:33] <acepower1000_> wait are the partitions made allready or is it geting ready to make them
[08:34] <denza242> the windows partitions are already there
[08:34] <acepower1000_> no i mean the linux partitions
[08:35] <denza242> getting ready to make them
[08:35] <denza242> no actual operations have been performed yet
[08:35] <acepower1000_> oh
[08:36] <acepower1000_> Ok going to reboot into windows
[08:45] <Acepower1000> there is 674 gb free space on my main windows partition and 91.80 gb free space how much do i shrink
[08:46] <Acepower1000> oh Its 8:45 AM ill do this tomorrow
[09:21] <samk> need help
[09:21] <denza242> samk: with what
[09:21] <Odur> samk: Ask and wait for someone to answer
[09:23] <samk> bluetooth not working in kubuntu (New to linux distros)
[09:26] <Odur> samk: fire up a terminal and type "dmesg | grep -i bluetooth" and pastebin the output
[09:27] <samk> ok will do now
[09:28] <samk> [   13.864059] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.20 [   13.864086] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized [   13.864093] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized [   13.864098] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized [   13.864115] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized [   13.884446] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: chip id 70 [   13.884451] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM (001.001.011) build 0000 [   13.954504] bluetooth hci0: Direct firmware loa
[09:28] <samk> rror -2 [   13.954508] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: Patch brcm/BCM.hcd not found [   17.676554] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3 [   17.676557] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast [   17.676561] Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized [   39.057829] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized [   39.057836] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized [   39.057840] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11
[09:28] <Odur> please use pastebin.com instead
[09:29] <samk> ok sorry new to these stuff
[09:29] <Odur> No worries. I see you are missing the firmware for the bluetooth device. I had the same problem. Just a moment...
[09:34] <Odur> samk: What does lsusb says?
[09:37] <samk> us 003 Device 005: ID 0bda:0129 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTS5129 Card Reader Controller Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0a5c:21d7 Broadcom Corp. BCM43142 Bluetooth 4.0 Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0c45:6a04 Microdia  Bus 003 Device 002: ID 8087:8001 Intel Corp.  Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hu
[09:37] <Odur> samk: Solution here http://askubuntu.com/questions/632336/bluetooth-broadcom-43142-isnt-working-on-ubuntu
[09:38] <samk> Thanx a lot Odur will try the solution. Have a nice day!!
[09:38] <Odur> samk: Good luck
[10:32] <catopett_> Is everyone sleeping here then?
[10:34] <valorie> I'll soon be -- do you have a question?
[10:34] <valorie> it may be that many people are in FOSDEM sessions this weekend
[10:35] <catopett_> FOSDEM?
[10:35] <valorie> but it's past 2:30 am here
[10:35] <valorie> https://fosdem.org/2016/
[10:36] <valorie> biggest free and open software event in the world, i think
[10:36] <catopett_> I bought UBUNTU, and payed $500 for it
[10:38] <catopett_> peer is active i see
[10:38] <valorie> huh
[10:39] <catopett_> "/" #nrrl
[10:40] <catopett_> "/j" #nrrl
[10:40] <clivejo> hi valorie
[10:41] <valorie> hi clivejo -- are you at fosdem?
[10:41] <clivejo> nope
[10:41] <clivejo> in Snowy Fermanagh
[10:41] <valorie> ah, you shoulda gone
[10:41]  * valorie is in dark Washington
[10:41] <clivejo> I know, Kolab are announcing something !
[10:41] <catopett_> The LINUX is the best for hacking
[10:42] <valorie> Kube, yeah
[10:42] <catopett_> Are you comming for "THE GATHERING" then?
[10:43] <clivejo> I think its something like an intregated document viewer for kolab
[10:43] <valorie> ah, had not heard about that one, clivejo
[10:44] <valorie> the gathering?
[10:44] <clivejo> We have LibreOffice as a neighbor this year, which is a happy coincidence, as we have some interesting news for all Kolab users that is related to office documents that we will be sharing at FOSDEM. That's not the only reason to visit us, though!
[10:44] <valorie> sounds like the beginning of a suspense movie
[10:44] <catopett_> THE GATHERING yes, it is in may at he viking ship in Hamar in Norway
[10:45] <clivejo> sounds exciting!
[10:46] <clivejo> I love Kolab
[10:46] <code_witch> hey
[10:46] <code_witch> I am so new here
[10:46] <catopett_> http://www.gathering.org/tg16/
[10:47] <catopett_> You have to translate this pages, it is norwegian
[10:47] <code_witch> I want to join #python #kivy channels
[10:47] <clivejo> code_witch: you might have to register your nick
[10:47] <code_witch> those are asking me to register my nick in freenode, but when I did and use the user name i cannot connect
[10:47] <valorie> !register
[10:47] <catopett_> code_witch You type the "/j #python"
[10:48] <valorie> in some clients you can shorten to /j
[10:48] <valorie> others you use /join
[10:48] <code_witch> thank you
[10:48] <catopett_> I have registered my nick, when i identify it goes ok, but... i cannot change to that nick, why?
[10:49] <valorie> or in my client konversation, I can just click on the #channel and it opens up
[10:49] <valorie> you use /nick newnick, to change to newnick
[10:49] <catopett_> I know, i get errors
[10:49] <valorie> you may have to fill in the information in your client about your nick
[10:50] <clivejo> if you try to change nick to a registered nick and dont give the password it wont allow you
[10:50] <valorie> nick, password, and /msg chanserv identify password
[10:50] <catopett_> I gave the password
[10:50] <valorie> once you are identified you can change
[10:50] <catopett_> Still get errors
[10:51] <catopett_> -ChanServ- Invalid command. Use /msg ChanServ help for a command listing.
[10:53] <catopett_> The chanserv does not understand "identify"
[10:53] <mogost> Hi all! Can anyone help me find temporary fix for my problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1539843
[10:54] <catopett_> I do type "/nickserv identify nick passwd"
[10:54] <catopett_> Then i get msg about the passwd for nick is accepted
[10:55] <catopett_> But... i cannot change to the nick, i get error
[10:55] <valorie> I'm sorry, that should have been /msg nickserv identify password
[10:55] <catopett_> Does not have to type "/msg"
[10:56] <valorie> well, best to use the help messages from the services themselves
[10:56]  * valorie is too tired to give good help, sorry
[10:56]  * clivejo is too stupid to give good help
[10:56] <catopett_> I have identifyed ok for my nick, but... cannot change to this nick, error
[10:57] <catopett_> I am not new to irc
[10:57] <catopett_> Have beeng used irc since 1985
[10:59] <clivejo> catopett_: of course you have
[11:01] <clivejo> catopett_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarkko_Oikarinen
[11:04] <catopett_> It was a sort of, irc in 1985 to, it was called BBS
[11:08] <marcellus> hi. I 've got a big problem with kubuntu network after last update
[11:08] <marcellus> every network is down
[11:08] <marcellus> no wireless, no cable, no mobile, no nothing
[11:09] <marcellus> it is all greyed out
[11:09] <marcellus> not possible to activate
[11:36] <marcellus> hello??
[11:44] <clivejo> hi
[11:48] <marcellus> hi. I 've got a big problem with kubuntu network after last update
[11:48] <marcellus> every network is down
[11:48] <marcellus> no wireless, no cable, no mobile, no nothing
[11:48] <marcellus> it is all greyed out
[11:48] <marcellus> not possible to activate
[11:51] <clivejo> what last update?
[12:15] <marcellus> kernel ..... 77
[12:15] <marcellus> I dont remember the first numbers
[12:15] <marcellus> it ended with 77
[12:22] <acher88> so https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.13.0-77.121
[12:22] <acher88> which is is still in 'proposed' by the looks of it
[12:23] <linux> Hi
[12:24] <acher88> marcellus: if that is the case, and the only change that might be related to networking, I would reboot and select the previous kernel
[12:26] <marcellus> I did that, twice: to the one before and one before the other... no luck
[12:27] <User> Hi
[12:27] <soee> hiho
[12:29] <acher88> so it's not the update then. or at least, not the kernel anyway
[12:31] <User> in synaptic What is the difference between "Mark for removal" and "Mark for complete removal "?
[12:34] <acher88> 1st is equivalent of:  dpkg --remove 'Remove a package (but not its configuration files)'
[12:34] <acher88> 2nd is equivalent of: dpkg --purge 'Remove a package (including its configuration files)'
[12:35] <acher88> or the apt-get/apt equivalents
[12:35] <User> Thank you
[12:36] <marcellus> I have to restart the laptop to check taht out
[12:36] <marcellus> let us see if it works
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:05] <acher88> http://neon.kde.org.uk/download
[15:05] <acher88> "If you already have Kubuntu or an Ubuntu-based distribution, you can skip this step. We highly reccomend installing KDE neon over Kubuntu. "
[15:05] <acher88> "If you have an existing Ubuntu 15.10 operating system or flavour, you can install KDE neon and keep your existing system."
[15:07] <acher88> plasma seems to be for wily on that, with a version 5.5.2+git20160107
[15:11] <Odur> Hmm.. I have a fever and can't think properly right now. But is KDE Neon like Kubuntu with Riddle as maintainer?
[15:13] <soee_> It will be based on Kubuntu/Ubuntu but the main goal
[15:13] <soee_> is to provide always latest KDE Apps, Plasma
[15:14] <Odur> soee_: Seems promising :)
[15:14] <soee_> so for example, when Kubuntu has feature freeze we can't add newer Plasma etc. or sometime if we work on next Kubuntu version, there is no time to backport Plasma
[15:14] <acher88> presumably to be a quasi stable rolling option.
[15:14] <soee_> so Neon will be based on LTS Ubuntu always latest KDE stuff
[15:14] <acher88> but not as frequently broken as things like kubuntu-CI can be
[15:15] <soee_> so community released Plasma 5.6 and Neon gets it right away
[15:15] <soee_> and yes Jonathan it the head of this project
[15:15] <acher88> sounds nice in theory, but these things always do
[15:16] <soee_> but it is not liek he working alone on it :) there is whole team as as he is Plasma release manager so it is much easier to work on it
[15:16] <acher88> shall test and see where it goes once they get some xenial packages done
[15:18] <Odur> And this will benefit for the kubuntu packagers too i guess?
[15:18] <soee_> http://www.cio.com/article/3027639/linux/kubuntu-founder-jonathan-riddell-to-announce-project-neon-at-fosdem.html
[15:54] <veqz_> does anyone know how to configure a second touchpad? the touchpad kcm only seems to affect my laptop's built-in touchpad, and has no effect on my external logitech touchpad
[16:18] <BluesKaj> veqz, what about external touchpad set up as an external mouse?
[17:09] <veqz> the mouse settings doesn't seem to have any effects either
[17:10] <veqz> but I'm playing around with xinput now, so I think I'll be alright, in the end
[17:11] <BluesKaj> veqz, get a mouse, that will work :-)
[17:17] <dougl> Top of the morning to ya BluesKaj
[17:17] <BluesKaj> Hi dougl
[17:18] <dougl> ... did I ask you if you got all your snow cleared away?
[17:18] <BluesKaj> yup, I did
[17:19] <dougl> ... my neighbour had to come over with the tractor was the heavy wet shtuff then it froze about chest deep - good for you.
[17:19] <dougl> brb getting coffee
[17:21] <veqz> BluesKaj: haha sure :)
[17:21] <veqz> I just wanted to have an alternative, so I can vary my hand movements.
[18:46] <drleviathan> I started last night and finished up this morning: upgraded to kubuntu-15.10 by first installing ubuntu-15.10
[18:47] <drleviathan> and then installing the kubuntu-desktop package
[18:47] <drleviathan> now I'm trying to fix various problems
[18:48] <drleviathan> the current one is the firefox icon in the main menu... I can't seem to change it to true firefox icon
[18:49] <ichabot> why not directly kubuntu
[18:50] <drleviathan> I tried to install via kubuntu on USB, but it would not detect network.  neither wireless or the USB ethernet adapter
[18:50] <drleviathan> this is on a 2013 MacBookPro
[18:51] <drleviathan> somehow it let me enter a bad password and when I was done I couldn't actually login with the default user
[18:51] <ichabot> did you try to reinstall ff
[18:52] <drleviathan> so I booted up on a kubuntu DVD using an external drive
[18:52] <drleviathan> and that time it was able to detect the network... dunno why
[18:52] <ichabot> strange
[18:53] <BluesKaj> drleviathan, to get the correct icons remove ubuntu-desktop, some unity icons may still be default
[18:53] <drleviathan> in any case, I fixed my password problem by setting the password of the running kubuntu user and then copying the line in shadow and shadow- into the files on the hard drive
[18:53] <drleviathan> ah ok, I'll try that BluesKaj
[18:54]  * drleviathan reboots...
[19:05] <drleviathan> well, that appears to have worked BluesKaj, for the firefox icon in the menu
[19:06] <drleviathan> I still can't get the xchat icon to work yet
[19:14] <BluesKaj> drleviathan, xchat is no longer supported , try hexchat or konversation, or even quassel
[19:18] <drleviathan> huh... I'm using xchat now.
[19:18] <BluesKaj> or should I say xchat development is discontinued
[19:18] <OerHeks> indeed
[19:18] <drleviathan> I was able to solve my xchat icon problem by putting icons of the appropriate size in /usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/ ... etc
[19:19] <drleviathan> ok I'll keep that in mind.  I might try some of the others soon to see if I like them
[19:19] <BluesKaj> yeah it's still available but no longer being updated or upgraded
[19:20] <drleviathan> I'm having a hard setting up my second KDE panel... the settings menus keep disappearing out from under my mouse.
[19:21] <drleviathan> I succeeded once, but then had an invisile app icon that I couldn't remove, so I deleted the whole panel and started anew.
[19:22] <BluesKaj> dunno , I just use one, but my TV is my monitor, so no need for multiples
[19:22] <drleviathan> i use a small auto-hidden panel in one corner for quick launches
[19:24] <BluesKaj> there is a quick launch in the panel beside the kmenu if you drag icons from the menu into it
[19:25] <drleviathan> yeah, I use that one too
[19:26] <BluesKaj> there is a quicklaunch in the widgets, but not sure if you have it available , since I'm on 16.04
[19:44] <drleviathan> heh, this is so frustrating it's funny
[19:44] <drleviathan> maybe there is a text file I can edit to change the KDE panel configs
[20:00] <drleviathan> hah! I figured it out.  I had set my mouse focus to be strictly under the mouse: settings --> Window Behavior --> Activating Windows Policy
[20:00] <drleviathan> when I moved it back to "click to focus" I could actually edit the panel config settings again
[20:06] <BluesKaj> drleviathan, the 3 dashes stack on the far right of the panel also opens add widgets besides the right click menu context on the desktop
[20:06] <BluesKaj> err context menu
[20:07] <drleviathan> yup, and it goes away when I lock widgets down
[20:07] <drleviathan> I think maybe I've got things how I want them.
[20:08] <kame> hola
[20:08] <drleviathan> oh right... windows are snaping to the edge screen... right up to the internal window edge and I'd like them to snap to the outside border edge
[20:08] <drleviathan> anyone know how to configure things to do that?
[20:08] <kame> kubuntu 15.10, es una porqueria, no puedo usar conky como antes
[20:09] <kame> migrare a debian gnome
[20:09] <drleviathan> I translate that to: kubunto 15.10 is a porker, I can't use "conky" like before; I'm going to migrate to gnome
[20:09] <kame> XD
[20:09] <kame> yes
[20:10] <kame> tambien quitaron opciones de personalización del escritorio
[20:10] <BluesKaj> drleviathan, click the stack and asmall panel with horizontal arrows appears at both ends of the panel, move the arrows in or out to resize the panel horizontally
[20:12] <kame> tiene fallas de video tambien, etc..
[20:13] <krytarik> !es | kame
[20:13] <kame> en español no hay gente conectada
[20:14] <kame> voy a probar lo del panel y les cuento
[20:14] <kame> y no me discriminen por hablar español gracias
[20:14] <BluesKaj> drleviathan, well that's your call, but don't think gnome will do what you wanr
[20:15] <drleviathan> sorry BluesKaj, I was just translating the spanish (from kame) above that statement of mine.
[20:15] <kame> no es tema del panel, puedo mandar un screenshot por aca
[20:15] <drleviathan> I'm going to stick with KDE for a bit.
[20:16] <BluesKaj> kame,  /j ubuntu-es
[20:17] <kame> please help
[20:18] <BluesKaj> kame, En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro
[20:18] <kame> I can send a snapshot by chatting?
[20:18] <kame> I need a little help
[20:18] <BluesKaj> kame, whynot just state your issue in English if possible.
[20:19] <drleviathan> yes.  state the problem (we do not know what it is)
[20:19] <kame> yes
[20:20] <bob2021> Hey - where do i go for help with cairo-dock?
[20:21]  * drleviathan googles cairo-dock
[20:22] <drleviathan> bob2021, I use a second KDE panel with auto-hide enabled instead of a "cairo-dock".
[20:22] <kame> in this version kubuntu 15.10 conky appears as a window on the desktop and panel, eventhough it off the edges of the window is still on the panel as an application, is a little upset, version 14.04 LTS had no problems with Conky, not to mention who took options in customizing the desktop, and I appear sometimes failures video
[20:22] <bob2021> drleviathan: yeah but i'm new to ubuntu and kubuntu so i'm trying stuff out and the cairo dock seems really coo.
[20:23] <bob2021> its just popping up sub-docks on the wrong monitor...
[20:23] <drleviathan> huh... it does.  maybe I'll try it out.
[20:23]  * drleviathan googles conky...
[20:23] <bob2021> drleviathan: no i mean like *really* cool
[20:24] <drleviathan> almost as cool as the MacOSX dock?
[20:24] <bob2021> drleviathan: cooler.
[20:25]  * drleviathan installs conky and cairo-dock just to try them out...
[20:26] <acher88> bob2021: plank dock is a bit simpler and more actively developed
[20:27] <kame> https://mega.nz/#!DkRVAJAJ
[20:27] <kame> please can see my screen, this is the problem that I have with conky
[20:27] <kame> and look in google and nothing comes out
[20:28] <acher88> kame: conky misbehaves a bit with plasma 5 in some cases
[20:29] <acher88> kame: try http://imgur.com/ for your screenshot
[20:31] <bob2021> kame: try using conky-colors, it works well for me
[20:31] <kame> ok i try
[20:31] <kame> yhanks
[20:33] <acher88> kame: conky may need 'own_window_type' set to 'normal' for plasma5
[20:33] <drleviathan> I use "conky --help" to look at options.  You can supply a -x and -y argument to move the window exactly where you want it.
[20:33] <kame> http://imgur.com/qmel7bW
[20:34] <acher88> with: own_window_hints = 'undecorated,below,skip_taskbar,sticky,skip_pager'
[20:35] <kame> my problem is not to move the window, the problem is that conky appears as a window and not stick to the desktop
[20:35] <acher88> the default examples that come with conky manager may also not be suitable for for plasma5, as they are quite old
[20:35] <drleviathan> oh... works for me (sticks to desktop)
[20:35] <bob2021> kame - use conky colors.  your issue isn't a kde issue.  its an issue with how to configure conky.l
[20:35] <drleviathan> kame, did you do "apt-get upgrade" after you installed kubuntu 15.10?
[20:36] <acher88> yep. conky config needs tweaking to cope with plasma5
[20:37] <kame> ok
[20:38] <kame> I see so far no solution, unfortunately migrare debian gnome, depend much Conky
[20:38] <kame> thanks
[20:38] <acher88> even when you get it working not in a separate window, there are still a few bugs you might get
[20:38] <acher88> clicking on desktop can make it vanish sometimes
[20:38] <acher88> https://github.com/brndnmtthws/conky/issues/145
[20:39] <acher88> ^^^ work reading, as it at least tells you how to fix existing conkyrc files
[20:39] <kame> friends one more question, I have a 2.5GHz i5 processor, but sometimes this rises above 3.0 GHz, is normal?
[20:41] <bob2021> let's try this then:  kmail is declining to show icloud, even though it seems to connect.  can someone help?
[20:41] <kame> acher88 I'll try that option
[20:41] <drleviathan> bob2021 dude, cairo-dock is pretty cool
[20:41] <bob2021> drleviathan: told ya
[20:43] <bob2021> drleviathan do you know where kmail stores its stupid settings
[20:44] <bob2021> goddammit why is it so hard to find a viable email client
[20:44] <bob2021> this should be a solved f'ing problem
[20:44]  * BluesKaj just checks ksysguard once in a while
[20:44] <drleviathan> I don't use kmail, but probably in ~/.kde/share/...
[20:45] <bob2021> yeah there's a kmailrc but it doesn't have anything interesting in it
[20:45] <acher88> don't use kmail either
[20:45] <bob2021> what do you use?
[20:45] <drleviathan> bob2021, thunderbird doesn't work for you?
[20:46]  * drleviathan uses the browser for webmail
[20:46] <acher88> is uses akonadi for storage, but presumably not account settings?
[20:46] <bob2021> drleviathan it looks like its pretty ancient, so i didn't want to
[20:47] <drleviathan> thunderbird works well for a friend of mine, but I haven't used it in... about five or six years
[20:48] <kame> fuck plasma 5
[20:49] <BluesKaj>  I use t-bird because contains a small database for storing web/email on disk, came in handy when I had to find the instructions to reset the modem bridging after an ISP adsl problem
[20:50] <BluesKaj> !langauge |kame
[20:51] <drleviathan> bob2021, I suggest you try t-bird before discarding it altogether.
[20:51]  * drleviathan tries to figure out how to configure cairo-dock
[20:52] <bob2021> drleviathan i'd really like to get kmail working so i could use the whole k- package of connected apps
[20:52] <drleviathan> holy smokes, I found the cairo-dock settings window!
[20:52] <bob2021> drleviathan: right????
[20:53] <acher88> drleviathan: click advanced mode ;)
[20:54] <drleviathan> so... many... options
[20:55] <bob2021> so where do i go to get help with kmail?
[20:55]  * drleviathan deletes the second plasma panel he just setup this morning and replaces it with cairo-dock.
[20:58] <drleviathan> bob2021, what is your exact problem with kmail (I'm curious).
[20:59] <bob2021> drleviathan: icloud doesn't show up in the list of folders.  The account seems to be setup properly and connecting.  I see status and progress.  But I can't actually see what's in any folders, because they don't appear in the list of accounts and folders.
[20:59] <BluesKaj> bob2021, #kde perhaps
[21:00] <bob2021> thanks let me try... i'll still be here...
[21:03] <drleviathan> I've got a question: windows are snapping internal border edge to screen edge and I want them to snap to outer border edge.
[21:03] <drleviathan> anyone know how to do that?
[21:04] <gippo> !list
[21:09] <drleviathan> another question: I would like to have a _shutdown_ widget on a panel, but all I can find is a _logout_ widget.
[21:09] <drleviathan> is there a way to make an easy shutdown button?
[21:09] <drleviathan> hrm... come to think of it, I almost never acually shutdown (uptime is usually two weeks).  I guess I can live without.
[21:11] <netrunner> Hi all I am trying to install Netrunner 17 but have two problems. one the disk check comes up with a error in one file. unable to fix. Second Screen resolution is worng and normal slider is not there is system settings display. Can anyone help?
[21:27] <drleviathan> I'm happy to report: after upgradging to Kubuntu 15.10 my environment is back to an acceptable state.
[21:27] <soee_> :)
[21:31] <valorie> drleviathan: good to hear!
[21:31] <valorie> and are you sure you don't have shutdown?
[21:31] <drleviathan> yes, but I've decided it is ok
[21:31] <kuser> valorie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14774688/
[21:32] <valorie> alternative: use krunner, alt+space and type shutdown
[21:32] <kuser> valorie: should be the relevant part ... if you wish, i could paste everything
[21:32] <kuser> valorie: this was printed when pressing the play button
[21:32] <valorie> nothing unusual there
[21:33] <valorie> can you play other sound?
[21:33] <drleviathan> thanks for that tip.  I'm not really a krunner user but I will try to remember that option.
[21:33] <kuser> valorie: absolutely nothing
[21:35] <valorie> so it's not an amarok problem, but a sound problem
[21:35] <valorie> a few people have had to restart pulseaudio
[21:35] <valorie> !pulseaudio
[21:35] <valorie> and others have had to put their user account in the audio group
[21:46] <bob2021> kuser: I am one of the people who had to add themselves to the audio group. and then restart a few times.  Also had to add myself to the video and pulse groups.
[21:46] <bob2021> then eventually it started to work
[21:47] <bob2021> drleviathan: if, while playing with cairo settings, you come across a way to say what monitor sub-docks open-up on, pls let me know.
[22:23] <bob2021> what do people use on linux instead of logmein?
[22:39] <mparillo> bob2021: I have used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo to access an MS-Windows desktop from Linux. Real sysadmins just use ssh ;-)
[22:40] <bob2021> mparillo: I'm not a real sysadmin.  Sometimes, when I'm having coffee at starbucks, or at a client, I'll have some kind of realization about the processes I've left running on my machine. And I like to go in through my ipad and change things.  I use a GUI for this at the moment with logmein on os x.  I want to do the same thing with ubuntu.
[22:43] <mparillo> Neither am I. I used Citrix. Not free, but supported on my MS-Windows desktop.