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spm_dragetXenial #Alpha 2 is not yet feature-freeze, I know. But out of curiosity: Does it use the main (currently alpha) xenial repository and when it is officially released, an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' will get me to the very same state as the official release*, or is there anything special happening that would make it better to use a clean install from the official install media?  (* Configurations might change due to updated packages… but12:21
spm_draget I assume could just use the pakcage maintainer verison or carefully merge my existing changes into the new one.)12:21
spm_dragetI.e. for testing in a non-productive environment, can I install the alpha and use the same installe once it is stable for my production server?12:22
spm_draget*April12:22
ikoniaI thought it was in feature freeze12:23
ikoniathought that happened a while ago12:23
spm_dragetikonia: According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule 18th Feb12:27
spm_dragetI am just a fan of 'clean installs'. I do not mind if here and there some package version still changes for my setup. I am used to rolling-release distributions on my personal computers :P I am just wondering if it makes sense to configure 16.04 already or if I should better reinstall anyways in april.12:29
ikoniaI'd expect a clean install12:31
ikoniaI certainly wouldn't want to roll forward from this early a release stage12:31
spm_dragetWhy not? It is not very likely that anything deeply wired into the system will change. More likely some apache 2.4.x to 2.4.y updates or some kernel bump, nothing that should cause major issues12:36
Daekdroomspm_draget, you can certainly use 'dist-upgrade' to get to the official release.12:57
DaekdroomIn fact, that might not even be necessary. It's only needed when a package installed has dependency changes due to an update, I think.12:58
Daekdroom(but it's very likely you'll need it at some point, instead of 'upgrade'; that may happen even when you're using a stable version)12:59
darkdukewhy unity8 use qt?13:00
darkdukei don't think it is a good idea13:01
spm_dragetDaekdroom: Okay, thanks. Then I will play around with Xenial and if I am happy in april, use it for production13:06
MoPacHello. I'm running into a problem that prevents me from trying a Mir/Unity8 session using a live USB with 16.04.  I've reported the bug here (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8-desktop-session/+bug/1539811) and was hoping that someone might be able to glance at it and see if there is anything obvious I should try? (Trying to mount the disk as rw? Not expecting this to work at all..?)15:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1539811 in unity8-desktop-session (Ubuntu) "Unity8-mir session fails to load on login; lightdm restart required (live USB)" [Undecided,New]15:43
philinuxMoPac;~ you'll get more assistance here. http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=42715:46
VoyageIs 16.04 LTS?15:59
VoyageI just did release upgrade and it installed 16.04 from 14.0415:59
MoPacVoyage: Yes, it is to be the LTS release. (But it's only in Alpha now).16:01
VoyageI just did release upgrade and it installed 16.04 from 14.04. isnt that strange16:01
MoPacVoyage: In your software and updates app, under the "updates" tab, do you have "pre-release" checked?16:02
Voyageiam on console only16:03
Voyageany ways, how to know policy of an app. the version..16:05
MoPactry "nano /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade"16:05
MoPacActually, I didn't see the "proposed" change in that file when I did it in the app; I'll go see if I can figure out where it get changed16:06
MoPacokay, looks like the change would just be in the sources.list file16:09
MoPacSo use nano or whatever text viewer to look at /etc/apt/sources.list16:10
Voyagehm16:10
MoPacAnd see if (probably toward the bottom) there is a "proposed" repository that is active rather than #commented out16:10
Voyagebut this only shows sources list. not pre released or LTS etc choice16:10
MoPacI'm not 100% sure that this would be the culprit, but I'm curious if it is16:11
Voyageok16:20
Voyagewhere is database.yml16:20
ChibaPetWhere would op abuse like that best be reported?18:35
k1l_ChibaPet: op abuse is a harsh word. but you can report it in #ubuntu-ops and if that doesnt satisfy you you can email the ubuntu IRC council18:37
k1l_(like its mentioned in the guidelines)18:37
ChibaPetk1l_: Thank you. I'll fire off an email later.18:37
k1l_(and if you mean voyage: he has a long track record of causing issues with trolling)18:37
ChibaPetAh, that would inform the situation more. I was unaware of that.18:38

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