[00:30] <valorie> ikonia: was bren being abusive in PM or something?
[00:30] <valorie> in ref. to #kubuntu
[00:30] <ikonia> yes and look at #ubuntu
[00:30] <ikonia> my client was lagging for some reason, so I made a bit of a mess of removing him
[00:31] <valorie> ah, I'm not in #ubuntu
[00:31] <valorie> too much noice, and I can't usually help anyway
[00:31] <ikonia> basically every other word was cunt
[00:31] <valorie> noise
[00:31] <valorie> oh yikes
[00:31] <ikonia> and for no reason
[00:31] <valorie> thank you then
[12:18] <k1l_> is there some known issue with this? <catopett> Set the -i on "#kubuntu-no"
[12:19] <Myrtti> 121724 <+Myrtti> speaking from my Ubuntu IRC experience, if there isn't enough traffic for a Ubuntu flavour channel on  the loco channel, they're forwarded to the #ubuntu-* channel and people can and should ask their  questions there
[12:19] <Myrtti> but apparently he gets kicked if he asks kubuntu questions there, which I find peculiar
[12:19] <k1l_> #kubuntu-no is forwarding to #ubuntu-no
[12:20] <Myrtti> 121946 < geirha> catopett: What? no, you don't
[12:20] <Myrtti> yes.
[12:20] <ikonia> that seems unlikley that he'd get kicked for that
[12:20] <Myrtti> indeed
[12:21] <k1l_> seems they are sorting some stuff in #ubuntu-no with ops etc.
[12:22] <Myrtti> case solved
[12:22] <Myrtti> :-P
[14:44] <Voyage> How can I check which version of a specific app is supported in a specific ubuntu version package manager (without installing that ubuntu version)?
[14:46] <ikonia> Voyage: you're in #ubuntu-ops as you're still banned in the ubuntu channels
[14:46] <ikonia> the ban won't be removed until you actually resolve the issue
[14:47] <hggdh> Voyage: anything we can do for you? If not, please part the channel.
[14:47] <Voyage> hggdh,  ya, I asked a question ^
[14:48] <ikonia> hggdh: I think he's probably still go me on ignore
[14:48] <ikonia> which is a small part of the problem
[14:48] <hggdh> k
[14:49] <Voyage> k means, you will answer?
[14:49] <hggdh> Voyage: you are in #ubuntu-ops, not in #ubuntu. Do you wish to discuss your ban?
[14:49] <Voyage> oh..
[14:49] <Voyage> If you want to discuss the ban? I have few minutes but not much..
[14:49] <hggdh> Voyage: I also strong suggest you to take ikonia off your ignore list. It is not a good option to ignore an ops
[14:50] <hggdh> Voyage: where/when/why were you banned?
[14:50] <ikonia> I suggest he comes back when he's not against the clock then
[14:50] <Voyage> I choose not to put off ikonia from my list. For the ban, I dont recall a proper reason.
[14:50] <ikonia> he's banned in multiple #ubuntu channels #ubuntu #kubuntu and maybe ubuntu-offtopic (but I'd have to check)
[14:53] <hggdh> Voyage: let me refresh your memory: you are banned from the #ubuntu and #kubuntu channels due to attitude and threats
[14:54] <Voyage> such as a citation?
[14:54] <hggdh> Voyage>       Someday I am going to meet this MattDarcy personally. Sooner or later. That will be a hard day.
[14:55] <ikonia> the bottom line is he's doing a "secret" project and doesn't share all the details so wastes people times with help requests, then hassles them for an answer, and basically annoys everyone in the channel with the attitude
[14:55] <hggdh> I am, frankly, starting to feel I am wasting my time. You already had a conversation about this earier on in this channel.
[14:55] <ikonia> when contfronted about this it turns to stupid comments rather than focus on the best way to get help
[14:56] <ikonia> the threats was just a childish backlash for being banned, I don't really care about that
[14:56] <ikonia> but I would like him to be able to use the channel and interact with people beyond people actually telling him to "shut up" because he is annoying people that much
 Voyage>       Someday I am going to meet this MattDarcy personally. Sooner or later. That will be a hard day. <-- this was AFTER the ban. I am asking citations BEFORE the ban
[14:57] <hggdh> Voyage: you also have a pattern of asking help and notgiving details when requested for
[14:57] <ikonia> he doesn't just to it in #ubuntu - but it's more of a problem in ubuntu as it's busy
[14:57] <Voyage> hggdh,  if you , in capacity of an op in ubuntu channel, thing that you are wasting your time. Please stop doing so.
[14:57] <hggdh> Voyage: please be aware that your actions before *and* after a ban affect your status
[14:57] <Voyage> one sec.
[14:57]  * Voyage types
 Voyage: you also have a pattern of asking help and notgiving details when requested for <-- this is personal percpective and not a reason to ban someone.
[14:59] <Voyage> ikonia,  is  a 'no one'. He has no place but a mere op who chats all day. Thats it. I dont want to waste my precious time on or about or on things related to him. I may sound rude here but thats a fact I badly said. If its upto ikonia, I dont want to be unbanned. I dont, now, even give that much importance to him to hate him. He just doesnt exists in my world.
[14:59] <Voyage> hggdh,  I would like to part this channel.
[14:59] <ikonia> then do it
[14:59] <ikonia> and stop trying to join
[14:59] <hggdh> Voyage: you are free to do so at any time
[15:00] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu-ops voyage another voyage incident where he joins - but doesn't want to be unbanned
[15:00] <Voyage> and I will meet him
[15:00] <ikonia> sounds good
[15:00] <Voyage> I havent forgotten that
[15:01] <hggdh> oh boy
[15:01] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu-ops voyage rejoined -ops just to make another threat for sport
[15:02] <hggdh> ikonia: sorry, I tried.
[15:02] <ikonia> zero reason to be sorry
[15:03] <hggdh> I find it weird that people will /ignore ops. Ah well, such is life.
[15:04] <ikonia> ego
[15:06] <hggdh> indeed
[18:35] <k1l_> Homie (~GitGud@pisg/bruh/gitgud)
[18:36] <k1l_> i thought they didnt want give him any more cloaks
[18:39] <Myrtti> ?
[18:42] <k1l_> pisg and freenude gave several network trolls cloaks which they used to evade bans.
[20:12] <detai> Hey, what do you call a bunch of Low Energy Ego Maniacs?
[20:13] <detai> I cant decide/ ubuntu channel ops or IRC COUNCIL MEMBER?
[20:13] <detai> LMAO
[20:14] <detai> These and other cheap jokes will be available to you daily... enjoy!
[20:22] <k1l_> anyone else gets pm from frewtc4ke from time to time?