[05:30] <Kilos> morning thatgraemeguy antonmay inetpro and others
[07:39] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[09:09] <inetpro> good mornings
[09:09] <inetpro> Kilos: ty for what?
[09:13] <Kilos> starting QA again sir
[10:06] <inetpro> oh, I didn't
[10:07] <inetpro> was probably just a hosting issue and it reconnected automagically again
[10:07] <Kilos> ty anyway
[10:08]  * inetpro will have to reboot it now
[10:09] <Kilos> ok
[10:48] <inetpro> uh oh!
[10:48] <Kilos> what
[10:49] <inetpro> Kilos: I think for as long as Maaz remains connected it will stay alive
[10:49] <Kilos> yes and spotty in my channel
[10:50] <inetpro> who manages spotty?
[10:50] <inetpro> cocooncrash_: ping
[10:51] <Kilos> georgl 
[10:51] <Kilos> is this for the tor thing
[10:54] <Kilos> i noticed freenode peeps talking about it while helping someone get cloaked
[10:54] <Kilos> all beyong my understanding of course
[10:55] <Kilos> beyond
[10:55] <inetpro> ibid needs to support SASL and I'm not sure it does by default
[10:55] <Kilos> tumbleweed does ibid support SASL?
[10:55] <Kilos> whew things getting more and more difficult
[10:56] <Kilos> i wonder if weed still in aus
[11:25] <magespawn> good afternoon
[11:25] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[11:41] <inetpro> wb superfly
[11:41] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[11:44] <inetpro> Kilos: sadly looks like there's not much we can do about QA for now
[11:45] <Kilos> oh my inetpro no support for sasl
[11:45] <inetpro> nope
[11:45] <inetpro> and "When there are repeated problems with abuse or anti-social behavior from an IP range, and the users on that IP range seem to have the ability to rapidly change between many different IPs, freenode is left with the uncomfortable choices of completely blocking access to the entire range, doing nothing, or turning to SASL. "
[11:46] <inetpro> I'm guessing there's been some abuse coming from the same IP range as our QA server
[11:46] <Kilos> oh my
[11:46] <Kilos> let me see if i have it on old pc on 12.04
[11:47] <superfly> Thanks 
[11:47] <Kilos> can you still get the ibid-stuff
[11:47] <Kilos> forget what now
[11:47] <Kilos> anyway no rush
[11:47] <Kilos> meetings over
[11:47] <Kilos> we have 3 weeks
[11:49] <Kilos> lol roping in help hopefully inetpro 
[12:34] <superfly> Where is QA hosted? 
[12:34] <Kilos> funny name thing
[12:35] <Kilos> that place thast offered free hosting for a year
[12:35] <superfly> same place as Maaz? 
[12:35] <superfly> Oh. Digital Ocean? 
[12:35] <Kilos> no i dont think so
[12:36] <Kilos> that sounds familiar
[12:36] <superfly> Kilos: who set up QA? 
[12:36] <Kilos> the pro superfly 
[12:36] <Kilos> but had to use my credentials to get the cloak iirc
[12:36] <superfly> Ja
[12:37] <superfly> Kilos: did you or inetpro sign up? 
[12:37] <Kilos> with the host?
[12:37] <Kilos> pro did
[12:37] <superfly> Ya
[12:37] <superfly> Ok
[12:59] <magespawn> superfly AWS free service
[13:00] <superfly> magespawn: ah
[13:35] <magespawn> brb
[13:37] <inetpro> superfly: what mage[tab] said ^^
[13:37] <superfly> inetpro: can you give me a backup of QA ?
[13:38] <inetpro> sure, what do you need sir?
[13:38] <Kilos--> ibid.data and ibid.ini
[14:00] <inetpro> superfly: here's how much data I used for running QA: http://bin.snyman.info/mmmy6udz
[14:01] <inetpro> most of that was for regular patches and updates
[14:11] <Kilos> so its the host that freenode is unhappy with
[14:12] <Kilos> magespawn wb
[14:12] <magespawn> ty
[14:12] <magespawn> network and computer issues here
[14:13] <Kilos> ai!
[14:16] <magespawn> windows
[14:16] <Kilos> bigger ai!
[14:23] <magespawn> indeed
[14:24] <magespawn> windows cannot update service while they are running, blah blah blah
[14:37] <inetpro> magespawn: just close the windows
[14:39] <inetpro> magespawn: how do I end the AWS free service to make sure they don't start charging me?
[14:40] <Kilos> oh my
[14:40] <Kilos> dont they have a contact us button
[14:42] <inetpro> started on 11 April 2015, so still have a bit of time left
[14:44] <magespawn> inetpro i think they stop it automatically
[14:44] <magespawn> they leave your account running but stop the instence i think
[14:45] <inetpro> cool
[14:46] <magespawn> i will check on mine tonight
[14:47] <inetpro> I see there is a [Close Account] option at the bottom of the page when you've logged in and selected [My Account]
[14:50] <magespawn> looks like i might be wrong https://aws.amazon.com/free/faqs/
[14:50] <magespawn> about half way down
[14:53] <magespawn> i did set mine originally to never exceed the free usage parameters, so that should logically include going over 12 months
[14:58] <magespawn> home time for me,chat later
[15:32] <Kilos> spell burocracy
[15:32] <Kilos> ai!
[15:37] <inetpro> Kilos: bureaucracy
[15:37] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[15:38] <Kilos> i even put two pairs glasses and looked inna dikpens merrie
[15:39] <inetpro> Maaz: google define bureaucracy
[15:39] <Maaz> inetpro: "Bureaucracy | Definition of Bureaucracy by Merriam-Webster" http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bureaucracy :: "Bureaucracy | Define Bureaucracy at Dictionary.com" http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bureaucracy :: "bureaucracy - Dictionary Definition : Vocabulary.com" https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/bureaucracy :: "Urban Dictionary:
[15:39] <Maaz> Bureaucracy" http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bureaucracy :: "Bureaucracy - defin…
[15:40] <Kilos> thats really an ugly word
[15:41] <Kilos> die engelse maak n mens kwaai dink
[17:05] <magespawn> good evening
[17:05] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:08] <magespawn> hey Kilos 
[17:32] <magespawn> so what is up tonight?
[17:43] <inetpro> magespawn: what are you planning?
[17:47] <magespawn> look at a laptop for a friend, then tidy the new study, my sons old room, after chaos, and look for work
[17:50] <magespawn> the look for work is a bit of an after thought really
[17:56] <Kilos> did you fix the network probs magespawn 
[17:57] <magespawn> yup looks like
[17:57] <Kilos> when are you going to learn python
[17:58] <Kilos> seriously
[17:58] <magespawn> i know  little already
[17:59] <Kilos> you need to know lots to be able to rewrite ibid
[18:01] <magespawn> i thought ibid worked, isn't there a repo somewhere for that?
[18:02] <Kilos> it hasnt got support anymore so dont work on releases after 12.04
[18:03] <Kilos> but still works kiff on old servers
[18:04] <Kilos> ibid must live until i dont, so i gotta find python experts with time
[18:04] <magespawn> let me see what i can find out
[18:08] <magespawn> i would not mind having a swing at that, although how much success we will have is questionable
[18:08] <Kilos> just find out what is needed first
[18:09] <Kilos> its some packages that arent used anymore i think
[18:11] <inetpro> oh come on oom Kilos, I was running it on 14.04.2 LTS
[18:11] <Kilos> really?
[18:11] <Kilos> on a vm?
[18:11] <inetpro> of course, where did you hide when I explained all that
[18:12] <Kilos> you installed it in 14.04?
[18:12] <inetpro> yes oom Kilos
[18:12] <Kilos> no man not the vm the bot
[18:13] <inetpro> the bot oom, all you need is to specify SQLAlchemy==0.6
[18:13] <Kilos> oh my
[18:13] <Kilos> where was i
[18:13] <inetpro> and I gave the link of all the install instructions more than once
[18:14] <Kilos> where was i
[18:17] <inetpro> I gave it to the fly earlier but obviously I still left out some stuff to get a complete setup, so hopefully he will be more diligent with new instruction
[18:17] <Kilos> lol
[18:18] <magespawn> inetpro: is it actively developed?
[18:18] <inetpro> magespawn: nope
[18:18] <inetpro> unfortunately not, so feel free to get involved
[18:19] <magespawn> sounds like a plan
[18:19] <inetpro> See: http://ibid.omnia.za.net/docs/trunk/install.html#prerequisites
[18:19] <Kilos> ja become the maintaner
[18:20] <Kilos> maintainer
[18:20] <inetpro> and https://launchpad.net/ibid/
[18:20] <magespawn> thanks inetpro 
[18:27] <Kilos> sjoe jy het hard gewerk boetie
[18:30] <superfly> actually, it's moved to github
[18:33] <magespawn> here https://github.com/ibid/ibid ?
[18:33] <Kilos>  yeah looks like
[18:34] <Kilos> but still the launchpad link for bug tracking
[18:34] <Kilos> i think
[18:49] <magespawn> going to read under the aircon a bit wait for it to cool down
[18:49] <Kilos> ok im gonna sleep soon
[18:54] <Kilos> inetpro next heat wave starts tomorrow
[18:55] <Kilos> they say 35°c but will be more i think
[19:04] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:01] <magespawn> good night