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flocculantwhile running openelec on a kubuntu vm in xubuntu00:00
flocculantloses the kubuntu vm and gains 90% ram00:00
knome;)=00:00
flocculantif nothing else this cycle has been a bit hairy for me on the other side of xfce00:03
flocculantapart from thunar00:03
flocculantif we start getting lost files bug in xenial 00:03
Unit193Thunar has crashed a couple times, aye.00:03
flocculantthat's nasty stuff00:03
flocculantnot had that - had crash while copying00:04
flocculantI guess moving doesn't copy it somewhere - or should? 00:04
flocculantshouldn't ever expose people to file manager bugs like that iyam00:05
Unit193flocculant: OK, will poke around with it then.00:24
flocculantUnit193: you saw this ^^ or the mail?00:25
flocculantjust wanting to know who reads what00:25
Unit193Mail.00:26
flocculantI guess we should know about xenial thunar issues00:26
flocculantbluesabre: what's your take on thunar? 00:34
flocculantjust seems to break more and more for people00:34
knome:|00:34
knomei'd be sad to drop it00:34
flocculantwell00:34
flocculantI would too ofc00:34
flocculantbut if we're looking at 3 years and not 9 months00:35
knomesure00:35
flocculant* i don't fix this stuff*00:35
knomeme niether00:35
knomeneither neither00:35
flocculantwe have to make grown-up decisions I guess00:36
knomein that case i'm out00:36
knomejuuuust kidding!00:36
flocculantand only a dev can give us the reasoning00:36
flocculanton the other hand if it's broke in <16.04 for 9 months 00:36
flocculantppa perhaps00:37
flocculantbackthingy00:37
flocculantif it's fubar in 16.04 then we need to think00:38
flocculantthis is where we really need people in 'team' to be talking about the same version of something :(00:39
Unit193http://git.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/commit/?id=029012f4c39d9d3d9ae617491a69f76f54a4192f00:43
flocculantoh00:46
flocculantwords :)00:46
flocculantso do we have that in xenial?00:46
flocculantcos the red and green bit look logical :)00:47
knomelet's make we do sooner or later00:47
knome+sure00:48
flocculantyea00:48
flocculantadd it to the ignored bug list :D00:48
knomelol00:49
Unit193I can add that to the package, and you can test to see if it helps enough to bother/00:49
flocculantUnit193: of course it is enough 00:50
flocculantall we can do is test the things that fix the things that were broken00:51
Unit193Well, that is, test and if it doesn't solve the problem well enough skip.00:51
flocculantthe thing is - currently we get a handful of people testing fixes00:51
flocculantthis is why my session on Sunday00:52
flocculantif we get a few more, has to help00:52
flocculantif 1 person says that the fix deleted / then find out why 00:53
flocculant*we* don't have autoanything00:53
flocculantbut till we ask and push - we won't have more00:54
flocculantI'd rather test a patch that could go ping and know - and have a copy00:55
flocculantI dopn't even have a sensible idea of how to apply a patch00:55
flocculantI piss about with google and evntually something doesn't error on me 00:56
flocculanthave to wonder what happened to davmor2 00:59
flocculantdavmor2_ turning up un-announced like that :p01:00
flocculantwb dkessel_ 01:01
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bluesabreevening all01:09
bluesabrelet's test that patch for thunar, it crashes on me enough to make testing worthwhile01:10
bluesabreUnit193: I'll update our branch so that wily > xenial01:10
bluesabreUnit193: on the flip side of that, which line is the task so I can un-base it?01:11
* bluesabre is always late to the party01:19
bluesabreknome: I see your new INPROGRESS task...01:19
* bluesabre wants sneak peeks01:20
Unit193bluesabre: Well, he didn't stack the branches, he just cloned yours and added his commits on top, sooo...  Also I have thunar, just had to break for supper.01:22
Unit193Unless you already got it, that is.01:23
bluesabreUnit193: right, he should be able to merge my changes back on top of his branch01:23
Unit193And, well it's in debian-cd and ubuntu-cdimage, iirc.01:23
Unit193bluesabre: Disclaimer: I don't know how to bzr.01:23
bluesabreUnit193: not started on it, so have at it :)01:23
bluesabreUnit193: :D01:23
Unit193Building now.01:23
Unit193I know git better by now, and still lacking in that one.01:24
bluesabreochosi is git master01:24
Unit193git pull --rebase is freaking awsome.01:25
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Unit193bluesabre: Wait, so where do I put this build? >_<01:37
bluesabreUnit193: xubuntu-staging?01:41
Unit193OK, that's what I was aiming at!01:41
bluesabre:D01:41
Unit193I'd try to reproduce before you update, but it's there now.01:45
bluesabreUnit193: cool, thanks02:18
bluesabreUnit193: look good? https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/debian-cd/xubuntu-base/revision/1931 https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/debian-cd/xubuntu-base/revision/193202:18
bluesabreUnit193: is this task the same as tasksel?02:25
bluesabrelivecd-rootfs/live-build/auto/config:294:add_task install minimal standard xubuntu-base02:25
Unit193Was about to comment, you'll want 'xubuntu-core' for the tasks, as it stands.02:26
bluesabrerighty, did that with the above revision 193202:38
Unit193bluesabre: Oh, what about new gfx?02:40
krytarikbluesabre: Can you please move/copy my improved splash image in 'debian-cd' to Xenial, too?02:42
bluesabredata/wily/xubuntu.pcx ?02:58
bluesabreyou guys gotta be more specific (or let Unit193 make the commit) :D03:00
krytarikbluesabre: Yep, that ( http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unit193/debian-cd/xubuntu-core/revision/1915 ).03:00
bluesabrehttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/debian-cd/xubuntu-base/revision/193303:03
krytarikAwesome, thanks. :)03:04
bluesabreUnit193: for my previous question, should that line in livecd-rootfs be xubuntu-core (not sure if add_task is part of the same terminology)03:06
Unit193https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/livecd-rootfs/xubuntu-base/revision/1267#live-build/auto/config those are tasks, yes.03:44
bluesabreUnit193: thanks, corrected with https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/livecd-rootfs/xubuntu-base/revision/126804:08
bluesabreheading to bed04:08
Unit193G'nighty!04:09
bluesabreflexiondotorg: we made some updates to our branches https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/debian-cd/xubuntu-base https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/livecd-rootfs/xubuntu-base04:10
bluesabrenight allllll04:10
knomebluesabre, ha! ;)08:12
bluesabremorning alllll11:54
ochosihey bluesabre 11:57
bluesabrehey ochosi 11:57
ochosibluesabre: what's up?12:02
bluesabreochosi: just woke up, making coffee12:03
* bluesabre yawwwwwwwwwwns12:03
ochosi:)12:09
* bluesabre has his coffee and breakfast12:29
ochosii'll soon have some french - uhm... belgian! - fries with mayo and ketchup12:32
ochosibluesabre: btw, have you been running/testing the git version of xfpm?12:33
bluesabreochosi: yes12:33
ochosiso far i haven't really received any new bugreports since flocculant called for testing12:34
bluesabrerunning at least12:34
ochosiand nothing too critical in the open issues list in bugs.xfce12:34
ochosiwell at least nothing showstopper-like12:34
bluesabrenot sure if this is new to this version...12:34
bluesabrewhen you click on the icon in the panel, the menu displays, when you click again, it does not hide (you have to click elsewhere)12:35
ochosionly found we seemingly dropped a feature from 1.2.012:35
ochosiwfm12:35
ochosidoes hide for me12:35
ochosibut actually i think there might be some issues12:35
bluesabrenvm, that also seems to affect some indicators12:36
bluesabreprobably a bigger problem with12:36
bluesabreoh I know12:36
bluesabregtk3 applets and indicators12:36
ochosihm, fun12:36
bluesabreprobably the panel not forwarding an event12:36
ochosicould be12:37
bluesabrebut thats minor12:37
ochosiwe should really finish the panel port at some point12:37
* ochosi looks at andrzejr_ 12:37
* bluesabre looks at andrzejr_12:37
ochosik, lunchtime, bbiab12:40
bluesabredoing a new catfish release this weekend, if folks want to spin it up and check some of the things under 1.3.4 https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~catfish-search/catfish-search/trunk/view/head:/ChangeLog13:30
bluesabrehttps://launchpad.net/~catfish-search/+archive/ubuntu/ppa (catfish-daily package)13:31
ochosik, upgrading13:41
ochosibluesabre: either you haven't updated the about dialog version number or catfish-daily didn't take over13:47
bluesabreochosi: I don't change the version number in the app until release13:48
ochosibut it says 1.3.013:48
bluesabreah13:48
bluesabre:\13:48
bluesabredid you install catfish-daily?13:48
bluesabre(instead of catfish)13:48
bluesabre1.3.4 will probably be the last dev release before 1.4, and if it looks good, 1.4 will probably come in the next week or two13:51
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ochosibluesabre: yeah, i installed that14:00
bluesabreochosi: run `which catfish`14:01
bluesabrejuuuust to make sure14:02
bluesabre:)14:02
ochosiyeah did that too ofc :)14:02
ochosi/usr/local/bin/catfish14:02
bluesabrethat's a local install14:03
bluesabre(/usr/bin/catfish)14:03
* `qq 14:03
bluesabrebut the python stuff in local will probably conflict with it, so grab the branch and run sudo make uninstall14:04
bluesabrewell, the latest version of the branch doesnt use a makefile either, come to think of it14:06
ochosi:]14:12
ochosiso what shall i really do now?14:12
ochosiok, now i'm there14:13
bluesabrea destructive /usr/local/catfish destroy would probably look like: for filename in `find /usr/local -name catfish*`; do sudo rm -rf $filename; done14:15
ochosicrash seen after a right-click on the treeview: http://dpaste.com/2PJYJ5T14:15
bluesabreoh nice14:15
bluesabrethat should be a one-liner fix14:16
ochosican't reproduce it now14:16
bluesabreyeah, once you've clicked on something, you've set self.rows, but if you don't do that before right-clicking, self.rows doesn't exist14:17
ochosioh great :)14:17
bluesabreeasy fix14:17
ochosianother thing i noticed:14:17
bluesabregood find!14:17
ochosimark multiple rows, right-click -> all rows except the one being clicked flash14:17
ochosii guess that's a workaround you're using there to select multiple rows?14:18
bluesabreyup... something broke with the way multi-select used to work, so that is the treeview trying to select just that one, and then me forcing the old selection to persist14:18
bluesabreit "works"14:19
ochosiyeah14:19
ochosiit just feels a little odd14:19
ochosii guess this is also sorta expected:14:20
ochosi(catfish:14808): Gtk-WARNING **: /build/gtk+3.0-pIzeMy/gtk+3.0-3.16.7/./gtk/gtkwidget.c:8554: widget not within a GtkWindow14:20
bluesabrenot sure what causes that, and I wish there was a way to silence gtk warnings for a running app14:21
ochosiright14:21
ochosino worries then14:21
bluesabresince the libraries by themselves tend to be a bit chatty and warning-y14:21
ochosipolkit seems to work fine14:22
ochosigreat stuff14:22
bluesabresimplifies quite a bit :)14:23
ochosibluesabre: so yeah, no other discoveries from my side16:29
ochosi(in terms of catfish bugs, i mean)16:29
ochosican't test middle-click properly with my touchpad atm16:30
ochosiother than that things seem fine16:30
Unit193bluesabre: Looked at patches?  And one bite on the ML looks decent!17:13
bluesabreUnit193: not yet, will now18:58
bluesabrereproduced crash without patch... grabbing ppa version now18:58
bluesabrecrashed it19:03
bluesabreit crashed faster this time, didn't lock up19:03
bluesabrebut still crashed19:03
krytarikknome: Just noticed again, can we please capitalize it as "Getting Support" in the dropdown menu "Help & Support" on the website? >_>20:06
knomekrytarik, mayyyybe.20:55
ochosievening all21:34
bluesabreevening ochosi 22:21
ochosiheya bluesabre 22:21
bluesabreochosi: what's up?22:25
ochosijust hanging out a little and reading up on some stuff i heard today22:26
ochosiwhat about you?22:27
bluesabrenot much, getting ready to put dinner together22:28
ochositrue that doesnt sound very exciting :p22:31
bluesabreindeed22:32
bluesabreprobably going to clean a bit tonight and play games, and tomorrow review parole bugs and apply fixes, and do a catfish release22:33
ochosioh ok, i remember now, you wanted a "replay" icon for parole22:33
bluesabreshould probably also install xenial tomorrow22:33
bluesabreyeah, that'd be a cool thing, making that center icon a play/replay button22:34
bluesabreI've seen a few folks click on it to have nothing happen :)22:34
ochosiyeah22:34
ochosippl tend to expect that now thanks to youtube etc22:34
ochosii guess the replay icon basically will be the "reload" icon22:35
bluesabreyeah22:35
ochosicrap22:35
ochosii seemingly never pushed an svg for that icon22:35
bluesabreD:22:35
ochosialso can't find the source anywhere22:38
ochosiit's even possible i drew that in gimpp...22:38
ochosii guess the only sane way forward is to redraw both icons in inkscapee22:39
ochosiand push the svvgs to the repo and only install the pngs22:39
bluesabreochosi: sounds like a bit of a pain, that can probably wait a little bit until parole goes into devel for 0.9.x22:42
ochosiit's far less work than e.g. fixing up greybird for 3.1822:43
ochosishould be done fairly quickly22:43
ochosimaybe 30mins or so22:43
ochosimaybe i can get it done tomorrow22:44
bluesabrealrighty, cool22:44
ochosii'll also bump the resolution to 256x25622:45
ochosiwe can always downscale it if we want to22:45
bluesabresounds good22:45
ochosibluesabre: couldnt resist, i drew them icons up real quick23:00
bluesabre:D23:00
ochosii can push the svgs as play and replay to the repo23:00
ochosialso png if you wanna try them out23:00
bluesabresure, go ahead :D23:01
ochosinot a full patch though23:05
ochosiyou still need to bend one path and include the new icon23:05
ochosiis "play.png" and "replay.png" without any additional parole namespace ok for you?23:06
bluesabreochosi: that should be fine, these aren't themed23:06
ochosii know23:08
ochosistill23:08
ochosii mean it used to be "parole.png", not a very meaningful name...23:08
ochosibut i felt like changing the name should be for the better23:08
bluesabreyeah, thats fine by me :)23:10
ochosibluesabre: pushed23:11
ochosislightly changed the dimensions of the play icon23:11
ochosilemme know what you think23:11
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ochosianyway, have fun, night everyone23:20
bluesabreochosi: looks good23:21
bluesabrewill probably scale to some degree https://i.imgur.com/VJK4XAp.png23:21
bluesabremaybe scaling by window size or something, I'll think on it :)23:22
bluesabrethanks ochosi!23:22

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