[00:00] while running openelec on a kubuntu vm in xubuntu [00:00] loses the kubuntu vm and gains 90% ram [00:00] ;)= [00:03] if nothing else this cycle has been a bit hairy for me on the other side of xfce [00:03] apart from thunar [00:03] if we start getting lost files bug in xenial [00:03] Thunar has crashed a couple times, aye. [00:03] that's nasty stuff [00:04] not had that - had crash while copying [00:04] I guess moving doesn't copy it somewhere - or should? [00:05] shouldn't ever expose people to file manager bugs like that iyam [00:24] flocculant: OK, will poke around with it then. [00:25] Unit193: you saw this ^^ or the mail? [00:25] just wanting to know who reads what [00:26] Mail. [00:26] I guess we should know about xenial thunar issues [00:34] bluesabre: what's your take on thunar? [00:34] just seems to break more and more for people [00:34] :| [00:34] i'd be sad to drop it [00:34] well [00:34] I would too ofc [00:35] but if we're looking at 3 years and not 9 months [00:35] sure [00:35] * i don't fix this stuff* [00:35] me niether [00:35] neither neither [00:36] we have to make grown-up decisions I guess [00:36] in that case i'm out [00:36] juuuust kidding! [00:36] and only a dev can give us the reasoning [00:36] on the other hand if it's broke in <16.04 for 9 months [00:37] ppa perhaps [00:37] backthingy [00:38] if it's fubar in 16.04 then we need to think [00:39] this is where we really need people in 'team' to be talking about the same version of something :( [00:43] http://git.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/commit/?id=029012f4c39d9d3d9ae617491a69f76f54a4192f [00:46] oh [00:46] words :) [00:46] so do we have that in xenial? [00:47] cos the red and green bit look logical :) [00:47] let's make we do sooner or later [00:48] +sure [00:48] yea [00:48] add it to the ignored bug list :D [00:49] lol [00:49] I can add that to the package, and you can test to see if it helps enough to bother/ [00:50] Unit193: of course it is enough [00:51] all we can do is test the things that fix the things that were broken [00:51] Well, that is, test and if it doesn't solve the problem well enough skip. [00:51] the thing is - currently we get a handful of people testing fixes [00:52] this is why my session on Sunday [00:52] if we get a few more, has to help [00:53] if 1 person says that the fix deleted / then find out why [00:53] *we* don't have autoanything [00:54] but till we ask and push - we won't have more [00:55] I'd rather test a patch that could go ping and know - and have a copy [00:55] I dopn't even have a sensible idea of how to apply a patch [00:56] I piss about with google and evntually something doesn't error on me [00:59] have to wonder what happened to davmor2 [01:00] davmor2_ turning up un-announced like that :p [01:01] wb dkessel_ === dkessel_ is now known as dkessel [01:09] evening all [01:10] let's test that patch for thunar, it crashes on me enough to make testing worthwhile [01:10] Unit193: I'll update our branch so that wily > xenial [01:11] Unit193: on the flip side of that, which line is the task so I can un-base it? [01:19] * bluesabre is always late to the party [01:19] knome: I see your new INPROGRESS task... [01:20] * bluesabre wants sneak peeks [01:22] bluesabre: Well, he didn't stack the branches, he just cloned yours and added his commits on top, sooo... Also I have thunar, just had to break for supper. [01:23] Unless you already got it, that is. [01:23] Unit193: right, he should be able to merge my changes back on top of his branch [01:23] And, well it's in debian-cd and ubuntu-cdimage, iirc. [01:23] bluesabre: Disclaimer: I don't know how to bzr. [01:23] Unit193: not started on it, so have at it :) [01:23] Unit193: :D [01:23] Building now. [01:24] I know git better by now, and still lacking in that one. [01:24] ochosi is git master [01:25] git pull --rebase is freaking awsome. === J21_ is now known as J21 [01:37] bluesabre: Wait, so where do I put this build? >_< [01:41] Unit193: xubuntu-staging? [01:41] OK, that's what I was aiming at! [01:41] :D [01:45] I'd try to reproduce before you update, but it's there now. [02:18] Unit193: cool, thanks [02:18] Unit193: look good? https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/debian-cd/xubuntu-base/revision/1931 https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/debian-cd/xubuntu-base/revision/1932 [02:25] Unit193: is this task the same as tasksel? [02:25] livecd-rootfs/live-build/auto/config:294:add_task install minimal standard xubuntu-base [02:26] Was about to comment, you'll want 'xubuntu-core' for the tasks, as it stands. [02:38] righty, did that with the above revision 1932 [02:40] bluesabre: Oh, what about new gfx? [02:42] bluesabre: Can you please move/copy my improved splash image in 'debian-cd' to Xenial, too? [02:58] data/wily/xubuntu.pcx ? [03:00] you guys gotta be more specific (or let Unit193 make the commit) :D [03:00] bluesabre: Yep, that ( http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unit193/debian-cd/xubuntu-core/revision/1915 ). [03:03] https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/debian-cd/xubuntu-base/revision/1933 [03:04] Awesome, thanks. :) [03:06] Unit193: for my previous question, should that line in livecd-rootfs be xubuntu-core (not sure if add_task is part of the same terminology) [03:44] https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/livecd-rootfs/xubuntu-base/revision/1267#live-build/auto/config those are tasks, yes. [04:08] Unit193: thanks, corrected with https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/livecd-rootfs/xubuntu-base/revision/1268 [04:08] heading to bed [04:09] G'nighty! [04:10] flexiondotorg: we made some updates to our branches https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/debian-cd/xubuntu-base https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/livecd-rootfs/xubuntu-base [04:10] night allllll [08:12] bluesabre, ha! ;) [11:54] morning alllll [11:57] hey bluesabre [11:57] hey ochosi [12:02] bluesabre: what's up? [12:03] ochosi: just woke up, making coffee [12:03] * bluesabre yawwwwwwwwwwns [12:09] :) [12:29] * bluesabre has his coffee and breakfast [12:32] i'll soon have some french - uhm... belgian! - fries with mayo and ketchup [12:33] bluesabre: btw, have you been running/testing the git version of xfpm? [12:33] ochosi: yes [12:34] so far i haven't really received any new bugreports since flocculant called for testing [12:34] running at least [12:34] and nothing too critical in the open issues list in bugs.xfce [12:34] well at least nothing showstopper-like [12:34] not sure if this is new to this version... [12:35] when you click on the icon in the panel, the menu displays, when you click again, it does not hide (you have to click elsewhere) [12:35] only found we seemingly dropped a feature from 1.2.0 [12:35] wfm [12:35] does hide for me [12:35] but actually i think there might be some issues [12:36] nvm, that also seems to affect some indicators [12:36] probably a bigger problem with [12:36] oh I know [12:36] gtk3 applets and indicators [12:36] hm, fun [12:36] probably the panel not forwarding an event [12:37] could be [12:37] but thats minor [12:37] we should really finish the panel port at some point [12:37] * ochosi looks at andrzejr_ [12:37] * bluesabre looks at andrzejr_ [12:40] k, lunchtime, bbiab [13:30] doing a new catfish release this weekend, if folks want to spin it up and check some of the things under 1.3.4 https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~catfish-search/catfish-search/trunk/view/head:/ChangeLog [13:31] https://launchpad.net/~catfish-search/+archive/ubuntu/ppa (catfish-daily package) [13:41] k, upgrading [13:47] bluesabre: either you haven't updated the about dialog version number or catfish-daily didn't take over [13:48] ochosi: I don't change the version number in the app until release [13:48] but it says 1.3.0 [13:48] ah [13:48] :\ [13:48] did you install catfish-daily? [13:48] (instead of catfish) [13:51] 1.3.4 will probably be the last dev release before 1.4, and if it looks good, 1.4 will probably come in the next week or two === nick23413241324 is now known as `qq [14:00] bluesabre: yeah, i installed that [14:01] ochosi: run `which catfish` [14:02] juuuust to make sure [14:02] :) [14:02] yeah did that too ofc :) [14:02] /usr/local/bin/catfish [14:03] that's a local install [14:03] (/usr/bin/catfish) [14:03] * `qq [14:04] but the python stuff in local will probably conflict with it, so grab the branch and run sudo make uninstall [14:06] well, the latest version of the branch doesnt use a makefile either, come to think of it [14:12] :] [14:12] so what shall i really do now? [14:13] ok, now i'm there [14:15] a destructive /usr/local/catfish destroy would probably look like: for filename in `find /usr/local -name catfish*`; do sudo rm -rf $filename; done [14:15] crash seen after a right-click on the treeview: http://dpaste.com/2PJYJ5T [14:15] oh nice [14:16] that should be a one-liner fix [14:16] can't reproduce it now [14:17] yeah, once you've clicked on something, you've set self.rows, but if you don't do that before right-clicking, self.rows doesn't exist [14:17] oh great :) [14:17] easy fix [14:17] another thing i noticed: [14:17] good find! [14:17] mark multiple rows, right-click -> all rows except the one being clicked flash [14:18] i guess that's a workaround you're using there to select multiple rows? [14:18] yup... something broke with the way multi-select used to work, so that is the treeview trying to select just that one, and then me forcing the old selection to persist [14:19] it "works" [14:19] yeah [14:19] it just feels a little odd [14:20] i guess this is also sorta expected: [14:20] (catfish:14808): Gtk-WARNING **: /build/gtk+3.0-pIzeMy/gtk+3.0-3.16.7/./gtk/gtkwidget.c:8554: widget not within a GtkWindow [14:21] not sure what causes that, and I wish there was a way to silence gtk warnings for a running app [14:21] right [14:21] no worries then [14:21] since the libraries by themselves tend to be a bit chatty and warning-y [14:22] polkit seems to work fine [14:22] great stuff [14:23] simplifies quite a bit :) [16:29] bluesabre: so yeah, no other discoveries from my side [16:29] (in terms of catfish bugs, i mean) [16:30] can't test middle-click properly with my touchpad atm [16:30] other than that things seem fine [17:13] bluesabre: Looked at patches? And one bite on the ML looks decent! [18:58] Unit193: not yet, will now [18:58] reproduced crash without patch... grabbing ppa version now [19:03] crashed it [19:03] it crashed faster this time, didn't lock up [19:03] but still crashed [20:06] knome: Just noticed again, can we please capitalize it as "Getting Support" in the dropdown menu "Help & Support" on the website? >_> [20:55] krytarik, mayyyybe. [21:34] evening all [22:21] evening ochosi [22:21] heya bluesabre [22:25] ochosi: what's up? [22:26] just hanging out a little and reading up on some stuff i heard today [22:27] what about you? [22:28] not much, getting ready to put dinner together [22:31] true that doesnt sound very exciting :p [22:32] indeed [22:33] probably going to clean a bit tonight and play games, and tomorrow review parole bugs and apply fixes, and do a catfish release [22:33] oh ok, i remember now, you wanted a "replay" icon for parole [22:33] should probably also install xenial tomorrow [22:34] yeah, that'd be a cool thing, making that center icon a play/replay button [22:34] I've seen a few folks click on it to have nothing happen :) [22:34] yeah [22:34] ppl tend to expect that now thanks to youtube etc [22:35] i guess the replay icon basically will be the "reload" icon [22:35] yeah [22:35] crap [22:35] i seemingly never pushed an svg for that icon [22:35] D: [22:38] also can't find the source anywhere [22:38] it's even possible i drew that in gimpp... [22:39] i guess the only sane way forward is to redraw both icons in inkscapee [22:39] and push the svvgs to the repo and only install the pngs [22:42] ochosi: sounds like a bit of a pain, that can probably wait a little bit until parole goes into devel for 0.9.x [22:43] it's far less work than e.g. fixing up greybird for 3.18 [22:43] should be done fairly quickly [22:43] maybe 30mins or so [22:44] maybe i can get it done tomorrow [22:44] alrighty, cool [22:45] i'll also bump the resolution to 256x256 [22:45] we can always downscale it if we want to [22:45] sounds good [23:00] bluesabre: couldnt resist, i drew them icons up real quick [23:00] :D [23:00] i can push the svgs as play and replay to the repo [23:00] also png if you wanna try them out [23:01] sure, go ahead :D [23:05] not a full patch though [23:05] you still need to bend one path and include the new icon [23:06] is "play.png" and "replay.png" without any additional parole namespace ok for you? [23:06] ochosi: that should be fine, these aren't themed [23:08] i know [23:08] still [23:08] i mean it used to be "parole.png", not a very meaningful name... [23:08] but i felt like changing the name should be for the better [23:10] yeah, thats fine by me :) [23:11] bluesabre: pushed [23:11] slightly changed the dimensions of the play icon [23:11] lemme know what you think === knome_ is now known as nome === nome is now known as knome [23:20] anyway, have fun, night everyone [23:21] ochosi: looks good [23:21] will probably scale to some degree https://i.imgur.com/VJK4XAp.png [23:22] maybe scaling by window size or something, I'll think on it :) [23:22] thanks ochosi!