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cajuntechieHello everyone. I have a quick question: How do I change my desktop wallpaper on 14.04? Following the SETTINGS->DESKTOP method I can't do it. Every image displayed in folders is grayed out and unselectable.02:35
Luyincajuntechie: perhaps a permissions problem? where are your wallpapers?02:43
cajuntechieLuyin, I am putting them in ~/Pictures/Wallpapers02:45
Luyincajuntechie: show output of "ls -l ~/Pictures/Wallpapers" then, please02:45
cajuntechieOne sec. Doing it now02:52
geniimaybe they are -r02:52
Luyingenii: about to find that out ;)02:54
cajuntechieWell, ls -l gives me nothing. But ls -la gives me this: anthony@osiris:~/Pictures$ ls -la ~/Pictures/Wallpapers02:54
cajuntechietotal 104402:54
cajuntechiedrwxrwxr-x 2 anthony anthony    4096 Jan 29 20:53 .02:54
cajuntechiedrwxr-xr-x 3 anthony anthony    4096 Jan 29 20:53 ..02:54
cajuntechie-rw-rw-r-- 1 anthony anthony 1060369 Jan 16 18:02 fullmoon.jpg02:54
cajuntechieSorry for the big paste02:54
cajuntechieI thought that looked good. Maybe I'm reading perms wrong?02:54
Luyinhmm nothing serious there. looks good02:54
cajuntechieVery weird then02:55
cajuntechieBAck to research then. Thanks for taking a shot!02:55
Luyincajuntechie: btw, there are paste services, whcih you can find in the channel topic ;)02:55
cajuntechieI know that. For some reason my brain just crapped on that paste and I didn't even think about them lol02:56
geniiWhat does: file ~/Pictures/Wallpapers/fullmoon.jpg   say?02:57
cajuntechiegenii, you mean permissions on it?02:57
geniino02:57
cajuntechieWhat do you mean then?02:58
geniiI mean literally the command called "file"02:58
cajuntechieSays it's a JPEG Image Data, JFIF standrd 1.0102:58
cajuntechieLooks normal :-(02:58
Luyincajuntechie: have you upgraded to the latest kernel and xfce version available for xubuntu?03:01
cajuntechieWell, Luyin, I've done a regular update this morning so I'm assuming I have the latest releases. I do regular updates.03:02
geniiHave you rebooted since the last update?03:02
cajuntechieMy kernal is 3.19.0-47. And yep, I've rebooted.03:03
cajuntechiekernel rather03:03
Luyincajuntechie: please try this: open your preferred desktop picture (e. g. fullmoon.jpg) in an image viewer, and see if you can "set this as wallpaper" there03:05
Luyinit should also be possible to just select this via right-click in thunar03:05
cajuntechieAhh, let me try that03:07
cajuntechieWow, I'm a total idiot. That worked. Something that simple. Sheesh! Thanks lol03:08
geniiEven if that works, still very curious problem that it cannot be done from settings03:08
Luyinyupp, I agree with genii03:09
Luyinwell, glad you have at least a workaround03:09
cajuntechieIndeed it is. I wonder if I should dig deeper and maybe file a bug...03:09
cajuntechieThough I guess it wouldn't help really03:09
Luyinthe thing is, how did it come up03:10
Luyindo you have some special setup, like multi monitors or something? special hardware perhaps?03:10
cajuntechieNope, not at all. Just on a Dell laptop. I might install it on another pc and see what I get. Start with fresh logs and dig until I find out what's up03:11
Luyinwell, good luck with that :)03:15
geniiMaybe bug 1102103:17
ubottubug 11021 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "openoffice.org: fails to install" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1102103:17
* genii smacks the bot03:17
geniihttps://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1102103:18
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 11021 in General "4.11 desktop settings does not like the "." in my monitor name." [Normal,Resolved: fixed]03:18
AfdalDoes anyone know where I can find the default xfce4-desktop.xml file for Xubuntu 14.04 Trusty?03:26
AfdalReally don't wanna open up an ISO just to get at this one file03:26
rwwpackage xubuntu-default-settings, downloadable at http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/xubuntu-default-settings/download , deb files can be unarchived with the `ar` command, path to file is /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-desktop.xml03:28
Afdalhmmm03:31
Afdalar -x blahblah.deb?03:32
Afdalwait no03:33
Afdalhow do you work this kajigger03:33
RoadRunnerwhere, in xubuntu's file system do the binaries of apps install to?03:37
LuyinRoadRunner: /usr/bin03:37
Afdalah, figured it out03:41
Afdalthanks rww  :)03:41
rwwyou're welcome :)03:42
RoadRunnerLuyin: can't find them all here; for example, no Thunderbird03:44
LuyinRoadRunner: you can find the location of a specific package with "which packagename", e. g. "which thunderbird", which will give you "/usr/sbin/thunderbird" (mark the "s" in "sbin")03:46
rwwunrelated to package. which looks for files in general. you can see the executable contents of installed packages with something like dpkg -L weechat-curses | grep bin03:47
rwwassuming they went in /usr/bin or /bin or /usr/sbin or /sbin or somewhere else binny03:47
RoadRunnerLuyin: in my case, "which thunderbird" gave me "/usr/bin/thunderbird" (no "s") but I can't see TB in either bin OR sbin03:53
RoadRunnersame for firefox, for example...03:54
LuyinRoadRunner: what are you trying to achieve?03:54
RoadRunnerjust want to see where things go03:54
RoadRunnerupon instal03:54
RoadRunnerLuyin: if the "which" command is pointing me to a directory, why am I not seeing the binary there?03:55
Luyinhow are you trying to view the contents of /usr/bin?03:56
RoadRunnerin Thunar03:57
RoadRunnerfile manager...03:58
RoadRunnerLuyin: ?04:00
Luyincan't reproduce that. I see thunderbird and firefox in /usr/bin04:01
RoadRunnerLuyin: I can't see them even with hiden files...04:02
LuyinRoadRunner: screenshot pls04:03
RoadRunnerLuyin: all I can find is a link file "link to ..lib/firefox/firefox.sh" - not a binary/executable (still want that screenshot?)04:09
Luyin... and what exactly is the problem with that link?04:11
RoadRunnerno problem, but where is the exec?04:12
Luyintake a look at the linked file04:15
RoadRunnerunfortunately not the whole path is given...04:19
RoadRunnerwhere is ...lib?04:19
Luyinuse ls -l /usr/bin/firefox to find out04:21
RoadRunnerLuyin: sorry for newbie questions, but the above command just gave me " ..lib/firefox/firefox.sh" again04:24
RoadRunnerLuyin: hope I am not being excessively dense here, but I am really not finding it...04:29
LuyinRoadRunner: run "find /usr/ -name "firefox*"04:31
Luyinoh and ignore output telling you that you don't have permissions04:31
RoadRunnerLuyin: all I got there was ">" with nothing else04:32
Luyinah sry04:33
LuyinRoadRunner: run "find /usr/ -name "firefox*"" (double " " at the end)04:33
Luyinthat is, the whole command should look like:04:33
Luyinfind /usr/ -name "firefox*"04:33
Luyinsry, my capabilities of expression suffer from it being half past 5 in the morning ;)04:34
RoadRunner:) then I appreciate your help especially !04:35
krytarik"/usr/bin/firefox -> ../lib/firefox/firefox.sh" - one directory up, then go from there.04:36
Luyinoh that was only two dots?04:37
LuyinI didn't see that04:37
Afdaloh hay04:37
Afdalsince you guise at talkin about Firefox04:37
AfdalHey does anyone know how to set Firefox's default preferences?04:38
Afdalas in, before OS installation04:38
Afdalwhere are those settings stored...  if they're stored04:38
LuyinAfdal: you can reset firefox to its default settings via the help menu in FF itself04:38
Afdaloh sorry I didn't articulate that very well04:39
Luyinor, if you prefer to handle files manually (which I wouldn't recommend): ~/.mozilla/firefox04:39
AfdalI want to modify the default settings for a custom installation :)04:39
AfdalI think the .mozilla folder is user-based so it's not gonna work04:39
AfdalI'm making a modified Xubuntu liveCD04:40
RoadRunnerLuyin: krytarik: I found it! but the file is labeled not as exec but as a shell script, that's why I sailed by it...  why is this not an exec and/or why aren't all app execs not in one place to be found conviniently?04:40
krytarikRoadRunner: This qualifies as an "exec" for me: "-rwxr-xr-x ... /usr/lib/firefox/firefox.sh".04:43
RoadRunnerkrytarik: and the 2nd part of my question?04:44
LuyinRoadRunner: did you look INTO the file?04:46
Luyinlike opening it with an editor/pager?04:46
Luyine. g. "less lib/firefox/firefox.sh"04:46
RoadRunnerLuyin: yes, it is described as an app launcher bla, bla, bla...04:46
RoadRunnerthey said something about an ease of migration, I guess it didn't make much sense to my linux virgin brain04:47
LuyinRoadRunner: and does it say something about a file it executes?04:47
LuyinRoadRunner: I still fail to see why you're looking into this. is there something wrong with your firefox installation?04:48
RoadRunnerLuyin: ok, I'd say we've persued this far enough :), my firefox is fine; what I am having problems with is my Cairo-dock04:49
RoadRunnerwhere, when I try to drag app icons onto it04:49
RoadRunnerthe icons are replaced with generic sys icons04:49
RoadRunnerhttp://imgur.com/DF5fq8m04:50
RoadRunnerso I thought its because I am draging desktop objects and not actual execs04:50
krytarikRoadRunner: Ftm, http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/index.html04:50
RoadRunnerkrytarik: thank you for this, I was looking for a more in depth explanation than just a picture with just the 1st level dirs :)04:52
LuyinRoadRunner: I see there IS firefox in your dock, so what's the problem?04:57
LuyinRoadRunner: also, read this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard04:57
RoadRunnerthank you for fs hierarchy help, now lets move on to Cairo: I want to add app icons not to the dock itself but to its stack docklet04:59
RoadRunnerplease note that on this picture http://i.imgur.com/5cMDfOk.png the menu of the docklet shown is showing no icons and you can see how draging firefox from diff places produced diff results but none produced its icon05:06
RoadRunnerkrytarik: would you like to help me with this :) ?05:09
krytarikRoadRunner: So it's an error in Cairo Dock - I already mentioned #cairo-dock earlier, and they might have other support venues and a bug tracker as well.05:29
RoadRunnerI posted this question in their channel as well, but not too many people there; since I just upgraded to its latest ver (3.4) I thought if this was a bug - it would be a big one and it would get picked up bfr this release; perhaps I am just missing some way to do this...05:32
krytarikRoadRunner: Since it seems that the Stacks plugin is actually meant for files, rather than application launchers, I'd think that if you make the respective .desktop files executable (+x), it should work.05:57
RoadRunnerkrytarik: sorry, I didn't get that, +x ?06:01
krytarikRoadRunner: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/wily/en/man1/chmod.1.html06:02
RoadRunnerthis sounds pretty involved, I'll have a read through with a clearer head, bud I doubt that's what cairo creators had in mind; their thing should be simple to use06:04
RoadRunnerkrytarik: oh, and if I understood you right: the files you see in the docklet of my image, don't have correct icons but they DO launch correct apps06:10
krytarikRoadRunner: Yep, I was just referring to the icons.06:14
RoadRunnerkrytarik: sorry, had to step out; where do icons from apps reside in fs?07:03
krytarikRoadRunner: You want the launchers, not the icons - generally, system-wide in '/usr/share/applications', and user-specific in '~/.local/share/applications'.07:14
krytarikAlso, this might come in handy at some point: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/07:16
RoadRunner"generally, system-wide in '/usr/share/applications', and user-specific in '~/.local/share/applications'." so these are locations for icons or for launchers?07:18
krytarikLaunchers are the ones with ".desktop" at the end.07:21
RoadRunneris there a way to change an icon for a launcher?07:23
krytarikLook at the link I just posted.07:24
RoadRunneralready got it bookmarked, thank you as usual :) (there's much there, it'll take me a while to go through it all, but if the answer is there - great!)07:27
RoadRunnerand for now, time to sleep, thanks again and talk to you later :)07:28
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XubUserSp1984Hi09:41
XubUserSp1984A new Xubuntu user from Spain09:41
XubUserSp1984I'm using 14.04 LTS. It's fine. I like it. No troubles at the moment09:44
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RockLeeHey guys, I've been searching around for a remedy for USB 3.0 slow transfer speeds on Xubuntu 14.04, but I'm still where I started. Does anyone know a workaround?15:21
xzgvhi all16:03
xzgvI tried to install xubuntu, i chose to partition, but the bootloader has only offers one choice - /dev/sda - no good - i need the option ( no bootloader) i got 2 other distros installed with grub on the first one. is there something i am not seeing?16:06
xzgvgrub on the first distro16:07
xzgvtrying to install  xubuntu 14.04-316:09
pencilandpaperThe installer doesn't have the "other" option xzgv ?16:17
pencilandpaperWhere you can manually choose your partition?16:17
pencilandpaperThen let it run through the install until it asks where you want grub installed, and to choose not to install it?16:17
xzgvpencilandpaper, just /dev/sda16:19
xzgvlet it install, and then there is another option to say NO to grub install?16:20
pencilandpaperNot so much letting it install, but its after choosing the "other" option so that you can manually choose your partition that you want xubuntu installed to I believe.16:20
pencilandpaperYou don't want Xubuntu controlling grub right?16:20
xzgvno16:21
xzgvi would lose the other 2 distros16:21
pencilandpaperHow would you lose the other two distro's..Xubuntu's grub will see the other two distro's. What are the other two distro's if you don't mind me asking?16:22
xzgvantix and vectorlinux16:23
pencilandpaperThose should be seen by Xubuntu's grub bro. After installation, boot in to Xubuntu and run: sudo update-grub16:24
xzgvi already got grub on antix (first distro) no bootloader on vector16:24
pencilandpaperright, thats a debian based distro..they always allow for that option. I use it as well..to opt out of grub being installed. :)  So I feel you..but I think that Xubuntu's grub will see those other two distro's and you should be able to choose what you want to boot in to.16:25
pencilandpaperThe order just may not be how you want it in the grub menu.16:25
xzgvi don't care about the order just want the 3 of them to show16:26
xzgvI don't want to end up with just xubuntu and miss the other 216:26
pencilandpaperIt should see them for you xzgv , go for it..and if it doesn't see them. Then we can figure it all out man.16:27
pencilandpaperBUT..remember to boot in to Xubuntu and run: sudo update-grub16:27
pencilandpaperIf they aren't seen initially after installation that is how to get the other two distro's to be seen.16:27
pencilandpaperI have to restart soon, I just ran updates and a new kernel was installed.16:28
xzgvyeah, that's what i did with antix to make vector appear in the menu16:28
pencilandpaperI'm over here running a unstable version of Xubuntu..just to watch it update in to stable. :)16:28
pencilandpaperNice xzgv .16:28
pencilandpaperSystem:    Host: ijotlines-Latitude-E6320 Kernel: 4.4.0-2-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Xfce 4.12.316:28
pencilandpaper           Distro: Ubuntu 16.04 xenial16:28
pencilandpaper:)16:28
pencilandpaperBrb.16:28
pencilandpaperNice, everything went ok. :)16:33
pencilandpaperBrb.16:33
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Slide_Hello !22:43
chemI recently switched from Mint to Xubuntu 15.10, and I can't figure out how to get permissions to work. Specifically, I can't get Plex Media Server access to a mounted 2nd hard drive. Can anyone help?22:48
knomehow did you get it to work in mint?22:50
chemI followed the top answer here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/395291/plex-media-server-wont-find-media-external-hard-drive22:51
knomehave you tried to follow that guide on xubuntu?22:54
chemYes, doesn't work22:55
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krytarikchem: That depends on the permissions on the concerning HDD, of course.23:00
chemkrytarik: how do you mean?23:01
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thomaHi. Anyone have experienced problem with xfce4-terminal + solarized colors palette and vim? I see that colors are reversed for dark and for light theme. If I'll select light solarized colorscheme for xfce4-terminal, and then light solarized colorscheme for vim, it turns out that I have dark solarized colorscheme in vim. When I set dark solarized colorscheme for vim, it gives me light version. What the heck?23:20
knomethoma, since you specifically ask about xfce4-terminal, have you checked if this happens with other terminal emulators?23:24
thomaknome: I didn't, but I guess it's okay with other term emulators, since people don't post this kind of problems with xterm for example23:48

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