=== dmzdax is now known as dmzda === dkessel_ is now known as dkessel [02:35] Hello everyone. I have a quick question: How do I change my desktop wallpaper on 14.04? Following the SETTINGS->DESKTOP method I can't do it. Every image displayed in folders is grayed out and unselectable. [02:43] cajuntechie: perhaps a permissions problem? where are your wallpapers? [02:45] Luyin, I am putting them in ~/Pictures/Wallpapers [02:45] cajuntechie: show output of "ls -l ~/Pictures/Wallpapers" then, please [02:52] One sec. Doing it now [02:52] maybe they are -r [02:54] genii: about to find that out ;) [02:54] Well, ls -l gives me nothing. But ls -la gives me this: anthony@osiris:~/Pictures$ ls -la ~/Pictures/Wallpapers [02:54] total 1044 [02:54] drwxrwxr-x 2 anthony anthony 4096 Jan 29 20:53 . [02:54] drwxr-xr-x 3 anthony anthony 4096 Jan 29 20:53 .. [02:54] -rw-rw-r-- 1 anthony anthony 1060369 Jan 16 18:02 fullmoon.jpg [02:54] Sorry for the big paste [02:54] I thought that looked good. Maybe I'm reading perms wrong? [02:54] hmm nothing serious there. looks good [02:55] Very weird then [02:55] BAck to research then. Thanks for taking a shot! [02:55] cajuntechie: btw, there are paste services, whcih you can find in the channel topic ;) [02:56] I know that. For some reason my brain just crapped on that paste and I didn't even think about them lol [02:57] What does: file ~/Pictures/Wallpapers/fullmoon.jpg say? [02:57] genii, you mean permissions on it? [02:57] no [02:58] What do you mean then? [02:58] I mean literally the command called "file" [02:58] Says it's a JPEG Image Data, JFIF standrd 1.01 [02:58] Looks normal :-( [03:01] cajuntechie: have you upgraded to the latest kernel and xfce version available for xubuntu? [03:02] Well, Luyin, I've done a regular update this morning so I'm assuming I have the latest releases. I do regular updates. [03:02] Have you rebooted since the last update? [03:03] My kernal is 3.19.0-47. And yep, I've rebooted. [03:03] kernel rather [03:05] cajuntechie: please try this: open your preferred desktop picture (e. g. fullmoon.jpg) in an image viewer, and see if you can "set this as wallpaper" there [03:05] it should also be possible to just select this via right-click in thunar [03:07] Ahh, let me try that [03:08] Wow, I'm a total idiot. That worked. Something that simple. Sheesh! Thanks lol [03:08] Even if that works, still very curious problem that it cannot be done from settings [03:09] yupp, I agree with genii [03:09] well, glad you have at least a workaround [03:09] Indeed it is. I wonder if I should dig deeper and maybe file a bug... [03:09] Though I guess it wouldn't help really [03:10] the thing is, how did it come up [03:10] do you have some special setup, like multi monitors or something? special hardware perhaps? [03:11] Nope, not at all. Just on a Dell laptop. I might install it on another pc and see what I get. Start with fresh logs and dig until I find out what's up [03:15] well, good luck with that :) [03:17] Maybe bug 11021 [03:17] bug 11021 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "openoffice.org: fails to install" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11021 [03:17] * genii smacks the bot [03:18] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11021 [03:18] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11021 in General "4.11 desktop settings does not like the "." in my monitor name." [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [03:26] Does anyone know where I can find the default xfce4-desktop.xml file for Xubuntu 14.04 Trusty? [03:26] Really don't wanna open up an ISO just to get at this one file [03:28] package xubuntu-default-settings, downloadable at http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/xubuntu-default-settings/download , deb files can be unarchived with the `ar` command, path to file is /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-desktop.xml [03:31] hmmm [03:32] ar -x blahblah.deb? [03:33] wait no [03:33] how do you work this kajigger [03:37] where, in xubuntu's file system do the binaries of apps install to? [03:37] RoadRunner: /usr/bin [03:41] ah, figured it out [03:41] thanks rww :) [03:42] you're welcome :) [03:44] Luyin: can't find them all here; for example, no Thunderbird [03:46] RoadRunner: you can find the location of a specific package with "which packagename", e. g. "which thunderbird", which will give you "/usr/sbin/thunderbird" (mark the "s" in "sbin") [03:47] unrelated to package. which looks for files in general. you can see the executable contents of installed packages with something like dpkg -L weechat-curses | grep bin [03:47] assuming they went in /usr/bin or /bin or /usr/sbin or /sbin or somewhere else binny [03:53] Luyin: in my case, "which thunderbird" gave me "/usr/bin/thunderbird" (no "s") but I can't see TB in either bin OR sbin [03:54] same for firefox, for example... [03:54] RoadRunner: what are you trying to achieve? [03:54] just want to see where things go [03:54] upon instal [03:55] Luyin: if the "which" command is pointing me to a directory, why am I not seeing the binary there? [03:56] how are you trying to view the contents of /usr/bin? [03:57] in Thunar [03:58] file manager... [04:00] Luyin: ? [04:01] can't reproduce that. I see thunderbird and firefox in /usr/bin [04:02] Luyin: I can't see them even with hiden files... [04:03] RoadRunner: screenshot pls [04:09] Luyin: all I can find is a link file "link to ..lib/firefox/firefox.sh" - not a binary/executable (still want that screenshot?) [04:11] ... and what exactly is the problem with that link? [04:12] no problem, but where is the exec? [04:15] take a look at the linked file [04:19] unfortunately not the whole path is given... [04:19] where is ...lib? [04:21] use ls -l /usr/bin/firefox to find out [04:24] Luyin: sorry for newbie questions, but the above command just gave me " ..lib/firefox/firefox.sh" again [04:29] Luyin: hope I am not being excessively dense here, but I am really not finding it... [04:31] RoadRunner: run "find /usr/ -name "firefox*" [04:31] oh and ignore output telling you that you don't have permissions [04:32] Luyin: all I got there was ">" with nothing else [04:33] ah sry [04:33] RoadRunner: run "find /usr/ -name "firefox*"" (double " " at the end) [04:33] that is, the whole command should look like: [04:33] find /usr/ -name "firefox*" [04:34] sry, my capabilities of expression suffer from it being half past 5 in the morning ;) [04:35] :) then I appreciate your help especially ! [04:36] "/usr/bin/firefox -> ../lib/firefox/firefox.sh" - one directory up, then go from there. [04:37] oh that was only two dots? [04:37] I didn't see that [04:37] oh hay [04:37] since you guise at talkin about Firefox [04:38] Hey does anyone know how to set Firefox's default preferences? [04:38] as in, before OS installation [04:38] where are those settings stored... if they're stored [04:38] Afdal: you can reset firefox to its default settings via the help menu in FF itself [04:39] oh sorry I didn't articulate that very well [04:39] or, if you prefer to handle files manually (which I wouldn't recommend): ~/.mozilla/firefox [04:39] I want to modify the default settings for a custom installation :) [04:39] I think the .mozilla folder is user-based so it's not gonna work [04:40] I'm making a modified Xubuntu liveCD [04:40] Luyin: krytarik: I found it! but the file is labeled not as exec but as a shell script, that's why I sailed by it... why is this not an exec and/or why aren't all app execs not in one place to be found conviniently? [04:43] RoadRunner: This qualifies as an "exec" for me: "-rwxr-xr-x ... /usr/lib/firefox/firefox.sh". [04:44] krytarik: and the 2nd part of my question? [04:46] RoadRunner: did you look INTO the file? [04:46] like opening it with an editor/pager? [04:46] e. g. "less lib/firefox/firefox.sh" [04:46] Luyin: yes, it is described as an app launcher bla, bla, bla... [04:47] they said something about an ease of migration, I guess it didn't make much sense to my linux virgin brain [04:47] RoadRunner: and does it say something about a file it executes? [04:48] RoadRunner: I still fail to see why you're looking into this. is there something wrong with your firefox installation? [04:49] Luyin: ok, I'd say we've persued this far enough :), my firefox is fine; what I am having problems with is my Cairo-dock [04:49] where, when I try to drag app icons onto it [04:49] the icons are replaced with generic sys icons [04:50] http://imgur.com/DF5fq8m [04:50] so I thought its because I am draging desktop objects and not actual execs [04:50] RoadRunner: Ftm, http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/index.html [04:52] krytarik: thank you for this, I was looking for a more in depth explanation than just a picture with just the 1st level dirs :) [04:57] RoadRunner: I see there IS firefox in your dock, so what's the problem? [04:57] RoadRunner: also, read this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard [04:59] thank you for fs hierarchy help, now lets move on to Cairo: I want to add app icons not to the dock itself but to its stack docklet [05:06] please note that on this picture http://i.imgur.com/5cMDfOk.png the menu of the docklet shown is showing no icons and you can see how draging firefox from diff places produced diff results but none produced its icon [05:09] krytarik: would you like to help me with this :) ? [05:29] RoadRunner: So it's an error in Cairo Dock - I already mentioned #cairo-dock earlier, and they might have other support venues and a bug tracker as well. [05:32] I posted this question in their channel as well, but not too many people there; since I just upgraded to its latest ver (3.4) I thought if this was a bug - it would be a big one and it would get picked up bfr this release; perhaps I am just missing some way to do this... [05:57] RoadRunner: Since it seems that the Stacks plugin is actually meant for files, rather than application launchers, I'd think that if you make the respective .desktop files executable (+x), it should work. [06:01] krytarik: sorry, I didn't get that, +x ? [06:02] RoadRunner: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/wily/en/man1/chmod.1.html [06:04] this sounds pretty involved, I'll have a read through with a clearer head, bud I doubt that's what cairo creators had in mind; their thing should be simple to use [06:10] krytarik: oh, and if I understood you right: the files you see in the docklet of my image, don't have correct icons but they DO launch correct apps [06:14] RoadRunner: Yep, I was just referring to the icons. [07:03] krytarik: sorry, had to step out; where do icons from apps reside in fs? [07:14] RoadRunner: You want the launchers, not the icons - generally, system-wide in '/usr/share/applications', and user-specific in '~/.local/share/applications'. [07:16] Also, this might come in handy at some point: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ [07:18] "generally, system-wide in '/usr/share/applications', and user-specific in '~/.local/share/applications'." so these are locations for icons or for launchers? [07:21] Launchers are the ones with ".desktop" at the end. [07:23] is there a way to change an icon for a launcher? [07:24] Look at the link I just posted. [07:27] already got it bookmarked, thank you as usual :) (there's much there, it'll take me a while to go through it all, but if the answer is there - great!) [07:28] and for now, time to sleep, thanks again and talk to you later :) === Metacity|uh-oh is now known as Metacity [09:39] quit() [09:39] exit [09:41] Hi [09:41] A new Xubuntu user from Spain [09:44] I'm using 14.04 LTS. It's fine. I like it. No troubles at the moment === nick23413241324 is now known as `qq [15:21] Hey guys, I've been searching around for a remedy for USB 3.0 slow transfer speeds on Xubuntu 14.04, but I'm still where I started. Does anyone know a workaround? [16:03] hi all [16:06] I tried to install xubuntu, i chose to partition, but the bootloader has only offers one choice - /dev/sda - no good - i need the option ( no bootloader) i got 2 other distros installed with grub on the first one. is there something i am not seeing? [16:07] grub on the first distro [16:09] trying to install xubuntu 14.04-3 [16:17] The installer doesn't have the "other" option xzgv ? [16:17] Where you can manually choose your partition? [16:17] Then let it run through the install until it asks where you want grub installed, and to choose not to install it? [16:19] pencilandpaper, just /dev/sda [16:20] let it install, and then there is another option to say NO to grub install? [16:20] Not so much letting it install, but its after choosing the "other" option so that you can manually choose your partition that you want xubuntu installed to I believe. [16:20] You don't want Xubuntu controlling grub right? [16:21] no [16:21] i would lose the other 2 distros [16:22] How would you lose the other two distro's..Xubuntu's grub will see the other two distro's. What are the other two distro's if you don't mind me asking? [16:23] antix and vectorlinux [16:24] Those should be seen by Xubuntu's grub bro. After installation, boot in to Xubuntu and run: sudo update-grub [16:24] i already got grub on antix (first distro) no bootloader on vector [16:25] right, thats a debian based distro..they always allow for that option. I use it as well..to opt out of grub being installed. :) So I feel you..but I think that Xubuntu's grub will see those other two distro's and you should be able to choose what you want to boot in to. [16:25] The order just may not be how you want it in the grub menu. [16:26] i don't care about the order just want the 3 of them to show [16:26] I don't want to end up with just xubuntu and miss the other 2 [16:27] It should see them for you xzgv , go for it..and if it doesn't see them. Then we can figure it all out man. [16:27] BUT..remember to boot in to Xubuntu and run: sudo update-grub [16:27] If they aren't seen initially after installation that is how to get the other two distro's to be seen. [16:28] I have to restart soon, I just ran updates and a new kernel was installed. [16:28] yeah, that's what i did with antix to make vector appear in the menu [16:28] I'm over here running a unstable version of Xubuntu..just to watch it update in to stable. :) [16:28] Nice xzgv . [16:28] System: Host: ijotlines-Latitude-E6320 Kernel: 4.4.0-2-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 [16:28] Distro: Ubuntu 16.04 xenial [16:28] :) [16:28] Brb. [16:33] Nice, everything went ok. :) [16:33] Brb. === dreamon_ is now known as dreamon [22:43] Hello ! [22:48] I recently switched from Mint to Xubuntu 15.10, and I can't figure out how to get permissions to work. Specifically, I can't get Plex Media Server access to a mounted 2nd hard drive. Can anyone help? [22:50] how did you get it to work in mint? [22:51] I followed the top answer here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/395291/plex-media-server-wont-find-media-external-hard-drive [22:54] have you tried to follow that guide on xubuntu? [22:55] Yes, doesn't work [22:58] join/ #xubuntu-fr [22:58] join/ #fedora-fr [23:00] chem: That depends on the permissions on the concerning HDD, of course. [23:01] krytarik: how do you mean? === knome_ is now known as nome === nome is now known as knome [23:20] Hi. Anyone have experienced problem with xfce4-terminal + solarized colors palette and vim? I see that colors are reversed for dark and for light theme. If I'll select light solarized colorscheme for xfce4-terminal, and then light solarized colorscheme for vim, it turns out that I have dark solarized colorscheme in vim. When I set dark solarized colorscheme for vim, it gives me light version. What the heck? [23:24] thoma, since you specifically ask about xfce4-terminal, have you checked if this happens with other terminal emulators? [23:48] knome: I didn't, but I guess it's okay with other term emulators, since people don't post this kind of problems with xterm for example