[10:19] <lordievader> Are there more people going to Riddell's talk this afternoon?
[10:24] <soee_> lordievader: do you have some Wily installation ?
[10:24] <lordievader> Yes, but do note I am not at home ;)
[10:25] <soee_> aah sorry :)
[10:25] <soee_> lordievader: @ FOSDEM ?
[10:25] <lordievader> Exactly :)
[10:25] <soee_> cool :D 
[10:40] <lordievader> It is closeby, and you only pay for a hotel, so why not :)
[11:46] <clivejo> soee_: did you test plasma 5.5.4 for wily? 
[12:09] <vip> clivejo: where's plasma 5.4.4?
[12:10] <clivejo> vip: no idea
[12:10] <vip> 5.5.4
[12:10] <clivejo> oh 5.5.4 is in staging
[12:10] <clivejo> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.5.4_wily.html
[12:13] <vip> clivejo: thanks 
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:32] <lordievader> I think my test box is going to get another OS soon, one with Project Neon :)
[12:35] <soee> lordievader: after Riddell talk ? :D
[12:36] <lordievader> Yes ;)
[12:36] <BluesKaj> hey lordievader, soee, no neon packages for Xenial yet tho
[12:36] <soee> lordievader: did they took some video from this talk ?
[12:37] <clivejo> apparently Neon will only be on stable Ubuntu
[12:37] <soee> BluesKaj: true and i wont use Neon till it is based on Xenial
[12:37] <lordievader> Like last year they tape everything.
[12:37] <lordievader> See video.fosdem.org.
[12:37] <soee> clivejo: downloading iso to test 5.5.4
[12:38] <BluesKaj> yeah, not gonna install Wily just for neon ;-)
[12:38] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Neon is now 15.10 only, after 16.04's release it will most likely move to that. See the website.
[12:39] <clivejo> lordievader: which video is JR?
[12:39] <lordievader> I dont think this year's will be availabe yet. Took a couple of months lat year befor the videos where available.
[12:40] <BluesKaj> yeah it's all over the linux. kde rss feeds in akregator, which I finally got working again 
[12:40] <lordievader> But it should go to K4401, there was his talk.
[12:40] <clivejo> lordievader:  there is something there from this morning - http://video.fosdem.org/2016/aw1121/
[12:42] <BluesKaj> http://www.cio.com/article/3027639/linux/kubuntu-founder-jonathan-riddell-to-announce-project-neon-at-fosdem.html
[12:44] <clivejo> the hectic life of a KDE dev, Europe, LA,  Catalunya sounds like the life of a glamour model!
[12:45] <acher88> would imagine at least some 'unstable' neon packages would be done for 16.04 prior to release? 
[12:45] <clivejo> basely just KCI?
[12:45] <clivejo> bascially
[12:46] <acher88> or near as makes little difference
[12:47] <soee> next neon + is it uses own QT builds, so they don't have to wait till Ubuntu use new version
[12:47] <soee> and usually newer QT = more bug fixes
[12:48] <acher88> good point
[12:48] <clivejo> acher88: have you a wily box?
[12:48] <acher88> only VM at the moment
[12:48] <clivejo> would you mind trying plasma 5.5.4 for me?
[12:49] <acher88> 2 laptops on xenail, and desktop on vivid still.
[12:49] <clivejo> Id like a couple of installs to go ok 
[12:49] <soee> clivejo: installing willy in VB now
[12:49] <acher88> on wily? I will later, but am due for Sunday lunch for a few hrs
[12:49] <clivejo> who was the one looking for 5.5.4 for multi monitor?
[12:50] <acher88> not me
[12:50] <acher88> any bugs to check are fixed? or just the upgrade process you want tested?
[12:51] <clivejo> oh it was yossarianuk
[12:51] <acher88> OK. Literally have to go NOW. I'll check back on IRC logs later
[12:51] <clivejo> just the upgrade process for now
[12:51] <clivejo> I dont have any wily installs to test it on
[12:52] <clivejo> I g2g too
[12:52] <clivejo> lunch time
[12:53] <soee> clivejo: ill report in a few minutes how upgrade was
[12:54] <lordievader> From what I heared Neon is based on Kubuntu-ci.
[13:00] <soee> installer crashed ...
[13:00] <vipw> clivejo: my upgrade seems fine
[13:01] <vipw> clivejo: I will use second monitor tomorrow
[13:02] <vipw> 5.5.3 with second monitor worked too, after suspend I've to xrandr to kde noticed 2nd screen
[13:13] <soee> installer crashed second time 
[13:13] <soee> i give up trying Wily in VB
[13:14] <BluesKaj> VB is a pita 
[13:16] <snele> multimonitor (kscreen) crashes are mostly qt bug which are supposedly fixed in qt 5.6
[13:16] <snele> *bugs
[13:23] <BluesKaj> soee, KVM is supposedly the best VM for linux hosts and linux guests
[15:11] <lordievader> soee: Is it still crashing on the ubiquity import?
[15:22] <acher88> clivejo: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma for upgrade test?
[15:23] <acher88> of 5.5.4
[15:23] <clivejo> yup, but only as a one off!
[15:23] <clivejo> yofel will shout at me!
[15:23] <acher88> soee: wily installs fine in VB here
[15:24] <acher88> plasma still hates 3D accell in VB, but not sure if that impacts install
[15:26] <soee> lordievader: it was downloading some packages when installing and crashed 3 times
[15:28] <acher88> installed wily from kubuntu amd64 iso at least 2 times in VB here, but not sure if I selected the "download updates while installing" option when I did that?
[15:28] <acher88> maybe I didn't
[15:30] <lordievader> Hmm, that is different.
[15:33] <acher88> clivejo: after adding ppa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14802884/
[15:35] <acher88> upgrade in progress
[15:35] <acher88> Note: that was from a wily rolled back to prior adding the backports with 5.5.3
[15:53] <acher88> clivejo: not pretty: http://i.imgur.com/CYIP77F.png
[15:54] <acher88> but did not delete plasma cache as I normally would, as not sure casual user would have a clue to do that
[15:58] <acher88> forced removal of plasma cache and a 2nd reboot sorted it, but plasma is still a bit crashy
[15:59] <acher88> this is on VB still though, so could be more stable on real machine
[20:12] <soee> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=KDE-digiKam-5-Beta-3
[20:15] <clivejo> soee: has any other debian based distro packaged it yet?
[20:17] <clivejo> is kubuntu-ci offline?
[20:17] <clivejo> doesnt seem to be reporting
[20:34] <clivejo> soee: its available here - https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/ubuntu/extra
[20:35] <clivejo> if they are calling the package digikam5 why not reset the epoch?
[20:46] <soee> :)
[20:48] <soee> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLBzZCe6L4c
[20:54] <clivejo> interestng
[20:55] <soee> but im waiting this year for Neon stable isos :-)
[20:56] <clivejo> you are very impatience :P
[20:57] <clivejo> like new stuff?
[20:57] <soee> i'm just curious :)
[20:58] <clivejo> LOL
[21:01] <soee> Dolphin can't browse my phone, that sucks :(
[21:05] <clivejo> cd kio
[21:08] <clivejo> grr