tewardwxl: any idea why i'm not seeing ISOs other than alternate for Lubuntu Daily?00:11
tewardphillw: that test for the shutdown thing, that's from the live environment, right?00:13
tewardboth amd64 and i386?00:13
* teward needs that bug again00:13
phillwteward: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds shows them all to me. Jeeze, you and iso tracker seem to have really fallen out!!!00:13
tewardphillw: not the tracker, the sync locations00:14
phillwteward: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/144703800:14
ubot93Launchpad bug 1447038 in casper (Ubuntu) "Shutdown/Restart of live session guest does not work in Virtualbox, and VMWare" [High,Triaged]00:14
tewardphillw: i'm gonna see if I can't get in touch with someone at Canonical. the cdimage server doesn't show me everything apparently and it's derping00:15
phillwteward: I'm not too sure how high priority traffic the daily builds are for syncing. afaik, we were always told to get them from the build server.00:16
phillwand then the 'news' sites would issue it's link and cripple it.00:17
tewardthe ISO tracker points to cdimage.ubuntu.com00:17
tewardwhich is where i'm trying to pullf rom :/00:17
tewardi think i'll poke balloons and see if they can get me in touch with canonical IS to do some debugging00:17
phillwteward: indeed00:17
tewardphillw: confirmed the won't shutdown issue on 20160129, BUT if you hit the "Enter" key it will shut off00:17
* teward remembers that the GUI prompts from 14.04 and 15.10 ask to hit "Enter" to verify media removal00:18
phillwin the meantime, if you need any - prod me and I'll pull them to phillw.net00:18
tewardphillw: got a system to test with?00:21
tewardVBox perhaps?00:21
* teward needs you to do a test00:21
tewardor is simon alive00:21
phillwteward: tsimonq2 is alive :)00:21
tewardgood, then i'm stealing him again00:22
tewardtsimonq2: ping, time to look alive :)00:22
phillwI'm still only KVM at the mo.00:22
tewardtsimonq2: you look like you need coffee :P00:22
tsimonq2not at dad's, can't do the VMs, sorry00:22
* phillw mutters, curses and installs vBox .....00:23
* teward ignites phillw's vBox with evil00:23
tewardphillw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1447038/comments/2500:28
ubot93Launchpad bug 1447038 in casper (Ubuntu) "Shutdown/Restart of live session guest does not work in Virtualbox, and VMWare" [High,Triaged]00:28
tewardi'm able to get it past that step00:28
tewardby hitting "Enter"00:28
tewardso... :P00:29
phillwteward: which iso are you using?00:29
tewardphillw: 20160129 Lubuntu Desktop Live00:30
tewardboth amd64 and i38600:30
tewardupdating to 0130 now00:30
tewardnote that i remember what the other releases' ISOs prompt for :P00:30
tewardhence why i thought i'd poke/test00:31
tewardat least, with latest VMware, the "Enter" gets to the prompt.00:31
phillwteward: okies, I'm still on the a2's ... let me refresh00:31
tewardphillw: i don't have alpha 2, if only 'cause i can't find that milestone on the tracker00:31
tewardmaybe my system hates me00:31
tewardbut i always try and test dailies heh00:31
tewardA2 would take an eon to download right now though00:32
phillwteward: those are on my phillw.net just for you :P00:32
tewardworks with 20160130 too, my hitting "Enter" at the 'not shutting down' and 'hanging' step at the end00:37
tewardthough the splash indeed does not show00:37
phillwteward: oops... just asked zysnc to replace my current desktop-amd64 image which is ubuntu-mate with lubuntu..... then I worked out why it wanted to take so long!!!00:37
tewardso nobody knows to actually hit the "Enter" button00:37
tewardphillw: heheh fail00:37
phillwteward: I've mv-d my -- ones mack00:37
phillwteward: what version of VBox are you using?00:41
phillwoh, ffs00:41
tewardso test it in vbox :P00:41
tewardi can do the VMware tests but the VBox tests are also important :)00:42
tewardi'm probably one of the few who uses VMware Workstation because i have it, over VBox00:42
phillwteward: "A newer version of vbox are available directly from vbox...." ... sod it... I'll go get that one.00:42
phillwteward: rules are we use the latest version :D00:43
tewardand i'm on the latest VMware Workstation :)00:43
phillwteward: if VBox new version works, there is still time to get it into 16.0400:44
phillwwhich would make a lot of sense for an LTS rather than SRU's00:45
phillw  Version 5.0.14 r10512700:49
phillwteward: -rw------- 1 phillw phillw  892338176 Jan 30 16:37 xenial-desktop-amd64.iso00:51
phillwis that the one you have?00:51
phillwteward: ??00:57
phillwokies.. starting00:59
wxlteward: did you figure out your problem with the isos?01:46
tewardwxl: nope01:47
tewardi just did the roundabout way of getting ISOs01:47
tewarduse one of my servers to download01:47
tewardthen download from the server01:47
tsimonq2teward: or a cdimage mirror?01:47
tewardthen nuke01:47
wxlcuz i see them all01:47
wxlwell on the tracker01:47
wxlbut the alternates are on cdimage01:48
wxli think you need more coffee teward01:48
tsimonq2wxl: yeah we need to overnight teward coffee, 5 gallons of it01:49
tewardcould just wire me $2501:50
tewardthat gives me 5 lattes01:50
tewardwhich is... what, about 15 cups of coffee worth of caffeine >:D01:50
phillwteward: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Death-Wish-Coffee-Strongest-Organic/dp/B006CQ1ZHI Oh, and it has sold out!!!!02:03
tewardin the UK it is02:05
tewardnot here02:05
phillwhe he :P02:05
phillwthere are stronger ones here, also - but not fair trade ones.02:06
ubot93#lubuntu is the Lubuntu support channel, #lubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Lubuntu, and #lubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:27
phillwtsimonq2: So, you now have learned that one of the most important things for development and testing is coffee :)02:30
tsimonq2!offtopic | phillw02:30
ubot93phillw: #lubuntu is the Lubuntu support channel, #lubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Lubuntu, and #lubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:30
phillwtsimonq2: I will not tell you again.02:30
tsimonq2phillw: tell me what? that your conversations are offtopic? :P02:31
tewarddon't be so rigid with the rules02:31
* teward drags tsimonq2 into the river02:31
tewardanyways, i'll do more testing tomorrow02:31
tsimonq2phillw: bug 1419384 says that the LightDM testcase is a little unclear...since you have VM access could you confirm that this testcase is outdated?17:40
ubot93bug 1419384 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "testcase of lubuntu's lightDM needs updating" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141938417:40
tsimonq2wxl, phillw: In Xenial the lubuntu-desktop metapackage is broken18:50
phillwtsimonq2: which one?18:51
tsimonq2phillw: well in a minimal install, sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop throws dep errors18:57
phillwtsimonq2: it is likely a mis-match in the repos. for alternate image ISO it uses tasksel to actually pull that meta-package :)18:59
phillwtsimonq2: sad, I'm a geek when it comes to that part :P19:00
Unit193tsimonq2: Well?  Going to spit out the error soon?19:00
Unit193Also,  apt-get install lubuntu-desktop^ next time.19:00
tsimonq2Unit193: apt works just fine, Unit19319:01
tsimonq2The following packages have unmet dependencies:19:02
tsimonq2 lubuntu-desktop : Depends: cups-driver-gutenprint19:02
tsimonq2                   Depends: usb-modeswitch but it is not going to be installed19:02
tsimonq2E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.19:02
Unit193You clearly missed the point, but meh.19:02
phillw(19:02:17) tsimonq2: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.19:03
Unit193Those both appear to be in the repo, hm.19:03
phillwask Synaptic Package Manager to fix your broken packages.19:03
phillwI'll go grab todays alt image and spin it up onto a VM19:04
tsimonq2but lubuntu-core works19:04
phillwtsimonq2: my best guess is that it is at the stage https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PartialUpgrades19:08
phillwthis means the repos are out of sync.19:08
phillwLeave it a few hours and it will most likely behave. As I said, the alt image depends on that meta-package, so it is unlikely to stay broken for too long.19:10
tsimonq2phillw: it's been like that for the past week, so I did wait19:10
tsimonq2week or more19:10
phillwtsimonq2: okies... I'll go have a dig :)19:11
phillwtsimonq2: so, following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Method19:14
phillwtsimonq2: ??19:23
phillwtsimonq2: poke....19:28
phillwtsimonq2: is the test case https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Method ?19:55
tsimonq2phillw: oh what?19:57
phillw(18:50:45) tsimonq2: wxl, phillw: In Xenial the lubuntu-desktop metapackage is broken19:57
phillw(18:51:33) phillw: tsimonq2: which one?19:57
phillw(18:57:19) tsimonq2: phillw: well in a minimal install, sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop throws dep errors19:57
tsimonq2phillw: no I didn't use that, already wiped the VM, sorry20:00
tsimonq2phillw: no I didn't use that, already wiped the VM, sorry20:04
phillwtsimonq2: so what test case do you use?20:05
tsimonq2phillw: I wasn't following a test case, I just get an image and install the packages20:08
tsimonq2phillw: I don't have to refer to any guide20:08
* tsimonq2 is proud of that20:09
phillwtsimonq2: so you have no test case for anyone to follow to replicate your reported bug? I'd not be proud of that, I'd call that a fail at the most basic level of bug reporting ..... "Make sure someone can reproduce it"... But, that's maybe me being old fashioned as to how we verify bugs.20:11
tsimonq2phillw: I meant I don't have to refer to anything to install the metapackage20:12
tsimonq2phillw: so I can write something up if need be, but I don't refer to any documentation while doing it20:12
tsimonq2that's what I meant :)20:12
phillwtsimonq2: well, there is the actual test case. It's not just a metaphorical thought up test case, it is actually what the instructions a person using the netboot iso will be following.20:14
tsimonq2phillw: but yet are those easy to find? that's the first time I have seen them...20:15
phillwtsimonq2: if you start at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu you will it at #9 in the contents section. We do it that way so people can find it.20:17
phillwtsimonq2: and you can ask why http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/111349/downloads amd64 version reports a 404 error, thus meaning I cannot test if lubuntu-desktop from minimal install does, or does not work.20:21
tsimonq2phillw: bug 141848820:32
ubot93bug 1418488 in Ubuntu QA Website "the links to the mini.iso do not work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141848820:32
phillwtsimonq2: found it :P http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/20:39
phillwI'll have a play a bit later :)20:40

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