| teward | um............ | 00:11 |
|---|---|---|
| teward | wxl: any idea why i'm not seeing ISOs other than alternate for Lubuntu Daily? | 00:11 |
| teward | phillw: that test for the shutdown thing, that's from the live environment, right? | 00:13 |
| teward | both amd64 and i386? | 00:13 |
| * teward needs that bug again | 00:13 | |
| phillw | teward: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds shows them all to me. Jeeze, you and iso tracker seem to have really fallen out!!! | 00:13 |
| teward | phillw: not the tracker, the sync locations | 00:14 |
| phillw | teward: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1447038 | 00:14 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1447038 in casper (Ubuntu) "Shutdown/Restart of live session guest does not work in Virtualbox, and VMWare" [High,Triaged] | 00:14 |
| teward | hmm | 00:14 |
| teward | phillw: i'm gonna see if I can't get in touch with someone at Canonical. the cdimage server doesn't show me everything apparently and it's derping | 00:15 |
| phillw | teward: I'm not too sure how high priority traffic the daily builds are for syncing. afaik, we were always told to get them from the build server. | 00:16 |
| teward | mmm | 00:16 |
| teward | well | 00:16 |
| phillw | and then the 'news' sites would issue it's link and cripple it. | 00:17 |
| teward | the ISO tracker points to cdimage.ubuntu.com | 00:17 |
| teward | which is where i'm trying to pullf rom :/ | 00:17 |
| teward | i think i'll poke balloons and see if they can get me in touch with canonical IS to do some debugging | 00:17 |
| phillw | teward: indeed | 00:17 |
| teward | phillw: confirmed the won't shutdown issue on 20160129, BUT if you hit the "Enter" key it will shut off | 00:17 |
| * teward remembers that the GUI prompts from 14.04 and 15.10 ask to hit "Enter" to verify media removal | 00:18 | |
| phillw | in the meantime, if you need any - prod me and I'll pull them to phillw.net | 00:18 |
| teward | phillw: got a system to test with? | 00:21 |
| teward | VBox perhaps? | 00:21 |
| * teward needs you to do a test | 00:21 | |
| teward | or is simon alive | 00:21 |
| phillw | teward: tsimonq2 is alive :) | 00:21 |
| teward | good, then i'm stealing him again | 00:22 |
| teward | tsimonq2: ping, time to look alive :) | 00:22 |
| phillw | I'm still only KVM at the mo. | 00:22 |
| teward | ack | 00:22 |
| tsimonq2 | *yawn* | 00:22 |
| teward | tsimonq2: you look like you need coffee :P | 00:22 |
| tsimonq2 | not at dad's, can't do the VMs, sorry | 00:22 |
| teward | ok | 00:22 |
| tsimonq2 | s/not// | 00:22 |
| * phillw mutters, curses and installs vBox ..... | 00:23 | |
| * teward ignites phillw's vBox with evil | 00:23 | |
| teward | phillw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1447038/comments/25 | 00:28 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1447038 in casper (Ubuntu) "Shutdown/Restart of live session guest does not work in Virtualbox, and VMWare" [High,Triaged] | 00:28 |
| teward | i'm able to get it past that step | 00:28 |
| teward | by hitting "Enter" | 00:28 |
| teward | so... :P | 00:29 |
| phillw | teward: which iso are you using? | 00:29 |
| teward | phillw: 20160129 Lubuntu Desktop Live | 00:30 |
| teward | both amd64 and i386 | 00:30 |
| teward | updating to 0130 now | 00:30 |
| teward | note that i remember what the other releases' ISOs prompt for :P | 00:30 |
| teward | hence why i thought i'd poke/test | 00:31 |
| teward | at least, with latest VMware, the "Enter" gets to the prompt. | 00:31 |
| teward | s/prompt/system/ | 00:31 |
| phillw | teward: okies, I'm still on the a2's ... let me refresh | 00:31 |
| teward | ack | 00:31 |
| teward | phillw: i don't have alpha 2, if only 'cause i can't find that milestone on the tracker | 00:31 |
| teward | maybe my system hates me | 00:31 |
| teward | but i always try and test dailies heh | 00:31 |
| teward | A2 would take an eon to download right now though | 00:32 |
| phillw | teward: those are on my phillw.net just for you :P | 00:32 |
| teward | :P | 00:32 |
| teward | works with 20160130 too, my hitting "Enter" at the 'not shutting down' and 'hanging' step at the end | 00:37 |
| teward | though the splash indeed does not show | 00:37 |
| phillw | teward: oops... just asked zysnc to replace my current desktop-amd64 image which is ubuntu-mate with lubuntu..... then I worked out why it wanted to take so long!!! | 00:37 |
| teward | so nobody knows to actually hit the "Enter" button | 00:37 |
| teward | phillw: heheh fail | 00:37 |
| phillw | teward: I've mv-d my -- ones mack | 00:37 |
| phillw | l- | 00:37 |
| phillw | teward: what version of VBox are you using? | 00:41 |
| teward | none | 00:41 |
| teward | VMware | 00:41 |
| phillw | oh, ffs | 00:41 |
| teward | so test it in vbox :P | 00:41 |
| teward | i can do the VMware tests but the VBox tests are also important :) | 00:42 |
| teward | i'm probably one of the few who uses VMware Workstation because i have it, over VBox | 00:42 |
| phillw | teward: "A newer version of vbox are available directly from vbox...." ... sod it... I'll go get that one. | 00:42 |
| teward | *chuckles* | 00:42 |
| phillw | teward: rules are we use the latest version :D | 00:43 |
| teward | indeed | 00:43 |
| teward | and i'm on the latest VMware Workstation :) | 00:43 |
| phillw | teward: if VBox new version works, there is still time to get it into 16.04 | 00:44 |
| phillw | which would make a lot of sense for an LTS rather than SRU's | 00:45 |
| teward | mhm | 00:45 |
| phillw | Version 5.0.14 r105127 | 00:49 |
| phillw | teward: -rw------- 1 phillw phillw 892338176 Jan 30 16:37 xenial-desktop-amd64.iso | 00:51 |
| phillw | is that the one you have? | 00:51 |
| phillw | teward: ?? | 00:57 |
| teward | yep | 00:58 |
| phillw | okies.. starting | 00:59 |
| wxl | teward: did you figure out your problem with the isos? | 01:46 |
| teward | wxl: nope | 01:47 |
| teward | i just did the roundabout way of getting ISOs | 01:47 |
| teward | use one of my servers to download | 01:47 |
| teward | then download from the server | 01:47 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: or a cdimage mirror? | 01:47 |
| teward | then nuke | 01:47 |
| wxl | cuz i see them all | 01:47 |
| wxl | well on the tracker | 01:47 |
| wxl | but the alternates are on cdimage | 01:48 |
| wxl | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/current/ | 01:48 |
| wxl | i think you need more coffee teward | 01:48 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: yeah we need to overnight teward coffee, 5 gallons of it | 01:49 |
| teward | could just wire me $25 | 01:50 |
| teward | that gives me 5 lattes | 01:50 |
| teward | which is... what, about 15 cups of coffee worth of caffeine >:D | 01:50 |
| phillw | teward: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Death-Wish-Coffee-Strongest-Organic/dp/B006CQ1ZHI Oh, and it has sold out!!!! | 02:03 |
| teward | in the UK it is | 02:05 |
| teward | not here | 02:05 |
| teward | :P | 02:05 |
| phillw | he he :P | 02:05 |
| wxl | http://www.drugs.com/monograph/caffeine-caffeine-and-sodium-benzoate-injection-caffeine-citrate.html | 02:06 |
| phillw | there are stronger ones here, also - but not fair trade ones. | 02:06 |
| teward | :P | 02:10 |
| tsimonq2 | !offtopic | 02:27 |
| ubot93 | #lubuntu is the Lubuntu support channel, #lubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Lubuntu, and #lubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 02:27 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: So, you now have learned that one of the most important things for development and testing is coffee :) | 02:30 |
| tsimonq2 | !offtopic | phillw | 02:30 |
| ubot93 | phillw: #lubuntu is the Lubuntu support channel, #lubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Lubuntu, and #lubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 02:30 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 02:30 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: I will not tell you again. | 02:30 |
| tsimonq2 | phillw: tell me what? that your conversations are offtopic? :P | 02:31 |
| teward | don't be so rigid with the rules | 02:31 |
| * teward drags tsimonq2 into the river | 02:31 | |
| teward | anyways, i'll do more testing tomorrow | 02:31 |
| teward | </gone> | 02:32 |
| tsimonq2 | phillw: bug 1419384 says that the LightDM testcase is a little unclear...since you have VM access could you confirm that this testcase is outdated? | 17:40 |
| ubot93 | bug 1419384 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "testcase of lubuntu's lightDM needs updating" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1419384 | 17:40 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl, phillw: In Xenial the lubuntu-desktop metapackage is broken | 18:50 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: which one? | 18:51 |
| tsimonq2 | phillw: well in a minimal install, sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop throws dep errors | 18:57 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: it is likely a mis-match in the repos. for alternate image ISO it uses tasksel to actually pull that meta-package :) | 18:59 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: sad, I'm a geek when it comes to that part :P | 19:00 |
| Unit193 | tsimonq2: Well? Going to spit out the error soon? | 19:00 |
| Unit193 | Also, apt-get install lubuntu-desktop^ next time. | 19:00 |
| tsimonq2 | Unit193: apt works just fine, Unit193 | 19:01 |
| tsimonq2 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 19:02 |
| tsimonq2 | lubuntu-desktop : Depends: cups-driver-gutenprint | 19:02 |
| tsimonq2 | Depends: usb-modeswitch but it is not going to be installed | 19:02 |
| tsimonq2 | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. | 19:02 |
| Unit193 | You clearly missed the point, but meh. | 19:02 |
| phillw | (19:02:17) tsimonq2: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. | 19:03 |
| Unit193 | Those both appear to be in the repo, hm. | 19:03 |
| phillw | ask Synaptic Package Manager to fix your broken packages. | 19:03 |
| phillw | I'll go grab todays alt image and spin it up onto a VM | 19:04 |
| tsimonq2 | but lubuntu-core works | 19:04 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: my best guess is that it is at the stage https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PartialUpgrades | 19:08 |
| phillw | this means the repos are out of sync. | 19:08 |
| phillw | Leave it a few hours and it will most likely behave. As I said, the alt image depends on that meta-package, so it is unlikely to stay broken for too long. | 19:10 |
| tsimonq2 | phillw: it's been like that for the past week, so I did wait | 19:10 |
| tsimonq2 | week or more | 19:10 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: okies... I'll go have a dig :) | 19:11 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: so, following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Method | 19:14 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: ?? | 19:23 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: poke.... | 19:28 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: is the test case https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Method ? | 19:55 |
| tsimonq2 | phillw: oh what? | 19:57 |
| tsimonq2 | sorry | 19:57 |
| phillw | (18:50:45) tsimonq2: wxl, phillw: In Xenial the lubuntu-desktop metapackage is broken | 19:57 |
| phillw | (18:51:33) phillw: tsimonq2: which one? | 19:57 |
| phillw | (18:57:19) tsimonq2: phillw: well in a minimal install, sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop throws dep errors | 19:57 |
| tsimonq2 | phillw: no I didn't use that, already wiped the VM, sorry | 20:00 |
| tsimonq2 | phillw: no I didn't use that, already wiped the VM, sorry | 20:04 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: so what test case do you use? | 20:05 |
| tsimonq2 | phillw: I wasn't following a test case, I just get an image and install the packages | 20:08 |
| tsimonq2 | phillw: I don't have to refer to any guide | 20:08 |
| * tsimonq2 is proud of that | 20:09 | |
| phillw | tsimonq2: so you have no test case for anyone to follow to replicate your reported bug? I'd not be proud of that, I'd call that a fail at the most basic level of bug reporting ..... "Make sure someone can reproduce it"... But, that's maybe me being old fashioned as to how we verify bugs. | 20:11 |
| tsimonq2 | phillw: I meant I don't have to refer to anything to install the metapackage | 20:12 |
| tsimonq2 | phillw: so I can write something up if need be, but I don't refer to any documentation while doing it | 20:12 |
| tsimonq2 | that's what I meant :) | 20:12 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: well, there is the actual test case. It's not just a metaphorical thought up test case, it is actually what the instructions a person using the netboot iso will be following. | 20:14 |
| tsimonq2 | phillw: but yet are those easy to find? that's the first time I have seen them... | 20:15 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: if you start at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu you will it at #9 in the contents section. We do it that way so people can find it. | 20:17 |
| tsimonq2 | alright | 20:18 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: and you can ask why http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/111349/downloads amd64 version reports a 404 error, thus meaning I cannot test if lubuntu-desktop from minimal install does, or does not work. | 20:21 |
| tsimonq2 | phillw: bug 1418488 | 20:32 |
| ubot93 | bug 1418488 in Ubuntu QA Website "the links to the mini.iso do not work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1418488 | 20:32 |
| phillw | ::SIGH:: | 20:36 |
| phillw | tsimonq2: found it :P http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ | 20:39 |
| phillw | I'll have a play a bit later :) | 20:40 |
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