[21:36] <tvin> hi
[21:43] <valorie> hello tvin
[21:43] <tvin> valorie, would you be able to help me with a technical issue?
[21:44] <valorie> perhaps, but that isn't really on topic here
[21:44] <valorie> whatcha got?
[21:45] <tvin> Trying to figure out how to make a usb live install
[21:45] <valorie> ah, I don't have the bots here
[21:45] <tvin> I used unebootin and it looked like it installed, but it won't boot
[21:45] <tvin> bots?
[21:45] <valorie> why not in #ubuntu?
[21:45] <valorie> bots have nice bits of info such as links
[21:45] <valorie> so first, did you verify the image?
[21:46] <tvin> no
[21:46] <tvin> I don't know exactly how to do that
[21:47] <tvin> Is it a big deal if I don't?
 To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[21:47] <valorie> I msg'd the bot instead
[21:48] <valorie> no, but if you have an incomplete or otherwise corrupted image, it won't boot no matter what
[21:48] <valorie> md5sum just checks for a good image to start with
[21:48] <valorie> easy and quick
[21:48] <tvin> How do I determine what the checksum is suppose to be in the first place?
[21:49] <valorie> where did you download the ISO?
[21:49] <tvin> from ubuntu
[21:49] <valorie> I use torrents which are automatically checked
[21:49] <tvin> I did
[21:50] <valorie> on that page should be an md5sum
[21:50] <valorie> ok, if you used torrents, it's correct
[21:50] <valorie> and unetbootin reported success
[21:51] <valorie> and I suppose it checks too -- been an age since I used it
[21:51] <tvin> seemed to have said it was installed successfully
[21:51] <valorie> cool
[21:51] <valorie> so, either unetbootin screwed it up, which is possible
[21:51] <valorie> or you have a bad thumbdrive
[21:51] <valorie> which is also highly possible
[21:52] <tvin> Thumbdrive opens fine and shows me the files
[21:52] <tvin> How do I check if there is a issue?
[21:52] <valorie> tell me how you tried to boot from the drive?
[21:53] <tvin> Set cmos to boot from external drive, and then rebooted. Even tried disabling HDD boot
[21:53] <valorie> I mean, do you have "boot from USB if present" on top of the booting options?
[21:53] <valorie> ok
[21:53] <tvin> yes
[21:54] <valorie> do you have another thumbdrive around?
[21:54] <valorie> probably easiest to just burn to another drive if you have one
[21:54] <tvin> assuming I dont get the same results
[21:54] <valorie> otherwise, use dd to burn the thumbdrive
[21:54] <tvin> dd?
[21:54] <valorie> which is also easy, but a bit nailbiting
[21:55] <valorie> hmmm, ubottu doesn't have a quick n' easy for dd
[21:55] <valorie> it's a commandline tool
[21:56] <valorie> man dd in your konsole or terminal
[21:56] <valorie> oh, you're not using kubuntu, so console
[21:56] <tvin> man dd path to ISO?
[21:58] <valorie> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_flash_installation_media
[21:58] <valorie> has a very good explanation
[21:58] <valorie> caution: setting your destination wrong will over write 
[21:58] <valorie> you can wreck your HD by setting it up wrong
[21:59] <valorie> I wish you were asking in #ubuntu where there are lots more skilled folks than me
[21:59] <tvin> that is for archlinux
[21:59] <valorie> this really is not a help chan
[21:59] <valorie> dd works the same everywhere
[22:01] <valorie> basically just replace the actual path to your ubuntu iso from the directions
[22:01] <valorie> Tip: Find out the name of your USB drive with lsblk. Make sure that it is not mounted.
[22:01] <valorie> Run the following command, replacing /dev/sdx with your drive, e.g. /dev/sdb. (do not append a partition number, so do not use something like /dev/sdb1):
[22:01] <valorie> # dd bs=4M if=/path/to/archlinux.iso of=/dev/sdx status=progress && sync
[22:04] <tvin> Do I "eject volume" so it isn't mounted?
[22:07] <tvin> valorie, ?
[22:08] <valorie> hmmm, not in kubuntu, but I assume so
[22:10] <tvin> How do I use lsblk to determine path?
[22:10] <valorie> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/45820/how-to-umount-a-usb-drive has a more complete discussion of doing this on the commandline
[22:11] <tvin> still need to know the proper path to the usb drive
[22:15] <valorie> I just tried this, to prove it works: lsblk without a usb
[22:15] <valorie> plug in usb
[22:15] <valorie> lsblk
[22:15] <valorie> and find that it is /dev/sdc
[22:16] <valorie> as in the archlinux example
[22:16] <tvin> "No command 'lsblk' found"
[22:17] <valorie> sudo apt install lsblk
[22:18] <tvin> "sudo: apt: command not found"
[22:18] <valorie> so pmount /dev/sdc works, although I had to install pmount
[22:21] <tvin> works to do what?
[22:22] <valorie> to ensure that the drive is unmounted
[22:23] <tvin> Well still need to determine path, and a way to install
[22:25] <valorie> dd bs=4M if=/home/valorie/ISOs/sampleubuntu.iso of /dev/sdc status=progress && sync is what I would do
[22:25] <valorie> lsblk tells you whether the USB is sda, b, c, whatever
[22:27] <tvin> "dd: unrecognized operand `of'"
[22:28] <tvin> I told you, that command didnt work to install lsblk
[22:29] <valorie> tvin: how old is your ubuntu?
[22:29] <tvin> 11.4
[22:29] <valorie> of course you can use apt-get if you want, although that's old.....
[22:29] <valorie> uh, that's no longer supported
[22:30] <tvin> that's why Im trying to make this usb live of current version...
[22:30] <valorie> 12.04 was an LTS, as well as 14.04
[22:30] <valorie> got it
[22:30] <valorie> so sudo apt-get lsblk
[22:30] <tvin> E: Invalid operation lsblk
[22:31] <valorie> messed up!
[22:32] <valorie> sorry, I'm leaving, please us #ubuntu for more help
[22:35] <tvin> I can't