[08:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:39] <pa> hi
[10:39] <pa> i read only now the great news
[10:39] <pa> launcher movable at last!
[10:39] <pa> so i was wondering
[10:39] <pa> will also the trash icon be (re)movable?
[10:40] <lordievader> Oeeh, is it actually movable now?
[10:42] <pa> no
[10:42] <pa> but i see in 16.04 it's a feature
[10:42] <pa> (movable launcher bar)
[10:43] <lordievader> Hmm, well that took its time...
[10:46] <pa> no shit! i bet it does take time to move a bar :)
[10:46] <pa> not that it will be enough to make unity usable
[10:46] <pa> but it's a start
[11:05] <lordievader> Hehe, no. :p
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> testing Xenial in VMware Player ... installed the new software manager ppa ... when clicking on the 'installed' button, it continues searching forever
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: gnome software?
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> yes, completely froze, had to 'reset guest'
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: maybe file a bug, but on the specific launchpad of the gnome software ppa page
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> its not officaly in repos i think right?
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> a bug, even for work in progress?
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> sure, the more they know the better
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> and yes, it's not in the repos, but this page asks to help ... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/01/test-new-ubuntu-16-04-software-center
[14:15] <Daekdroom> MonkeyDust, doesn't the ppa description tell you where to report bugs?
[14:16] <teward> nope heh
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust, teward could this be it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bugs?field.status:list=NEW
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> i read MIR in that post ... never installed MIR, or does it come with 16.04 ?
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: well, mir is supposed to be in unity8 and 16.04 will be unity7 by default still
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> oh, detail: it's xubuntu
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> or ubuntu + xfce, don't remember, been playing
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: i would try ubuntu-bug gnome-software, see what happens :p
[14:24] <pa> it would be good if at some point all the gnome stuff would be phased out in favor of qt stuff (not necessarily kde)
[14:24] <pa> but at least system components
[14:24] <pa> in my experience they cause nothing but hassles
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> pa: maybe a proposal for #ubuntu-devel ?
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: maybe it will add the bug in the right page, from terminal
[14:25] <pa> lotuspsychje, you mean the guys that took until 16.04 to let us relocate the launcher? ;)
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> pa: thats not official yet...ubuntu kylin is experimenting with launcher at bottom right now
[14:26] <pa> not even official? but i read that on an article!
[14:27] <pa> omg
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> pa: its still based on the ppa launcher to bottom...
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: how about launching gnome-software from terminal, give you errors?
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  the vm itself is dead slow
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> right
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> old hardware, no vl-x
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> vm-x*
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> xenial new kernel in tha house!
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  yes 4.4.0-2 here too
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> nice
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> anyway, this vm is too slow
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> kk
[19:19] <elhoir> hello again, guys
[19:20] <elhoir> i need help with a problem installing kernels
[19:20] <elhoir> this is the install output
[19:20] <elhoir> http://pastebin.com/fTHv6R4z
[19:20] <elhoir> what may i fix this?
[19:20] <elhoir> how*
[19:23] <genii> !info linux-headers-generic
[19:24] <genii> Follow the keernel mainline intructions to install the headers for the kernel that you manually installed
[19:29] <elhoir> i did
[19:29] <elhoir> but same error
[19:29] <elhoir> so i uninstalled all packages
[19:29] <elhoir> but... now its impossible to get to a normal situation
[19:30] <elhoir> i dont know what to do.... manually reinstalling mainline packages?
[19:40] <genii> elhoir: Try reinstall the stock kernel
[19:41] <elhoir> "stock"?
[19:41] <elhoir> you mean Ubuntu provided?
[19:41] <genii> elhoir: Yes
[19:41] <genii> eg: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[19:41] <elhoir> i did this -- sudo apt-get install linux-generic --reinstall
[19:41] <elhoir> suppose its the same
[19:42] <elhoir> and it didnt work
[19:43] <elhoir> genii, http://pastebin.com/xwv9ZttM
[19:44] <genii> If you have the 4.3.0.7.8 from normal repositories installed, then you can also now install headers for it. eg: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic   ...after this and if you have build-essential, then the dkms should be able to install
[19:47] <elhoir> sudo apt-get install build-essential says yes, i have latest version installed
[19:47] <elhoir> now 4.4.0 is the stock kernel
[19:47] <elhoir> ...
[19:50] <genii> elhoir: What says result of: apt-cache policy linux-image-generic
[19:52] <elhoir> genii, http://pastebin.com/U0nhcsqM
[20:01] <genii> !info linux-image-generic
[20:01] <genii> Bot's db seems to be quite out of date now
[20:02] <elhoir> proposed is disabled in my system
[20:02] <elhoir> so 4.4.0-2 should be in main
[20:02] <vooze> Does anyone know/think Nautilus will be patched in 16.04 ? Currently it looks weird with unity because of the "gnome window metacity"
[20:11] <elhoir> genii, any idea? :(
[20:13] <genii> elhoir: try sudo  update-grub  ..and see what kernels it finds
[20:15] <elhoir> genii, http://pastebin.com/5DmZDnBH
[20:18] <genii> elhoir: So 4.4.0.2 is currently on. What says result for: apt-cache policy linux-headers-generic
[20:18]  * genii makes more coffee
[20:19] <elhoir> 4.4.0.2.1
[20:19] <elhoir> but different entries
[20:19] <elhoir> see
[20:20] <elhoir> http://pastebin.com/TNFZSfEG
[20:36] <elhoir> ....
[20:36] <elhoir> gennmy system is f**d, isnt it? xD
[20:36] <elhoir> genii, my system is f**d up, isnt it? xD
[20:36] <genii> elhoir: Appears so
[20:37] <genii> elhoir: You have something installed that needs dkms like nvidia proprietary driver or something?
[20:37] <elhoir> virtualbox
[20:37] <elhoir> 5.0.14
[20:38] <elhoir> no propietary GPU drivers
[20:38] <elhoir> (its an AMD system)
[20:39] <elhoir> (an old one, HD5145, no linux propietary drivers for that)
[20:39] <genii> I think stalled dkms install might be screwing up the headers install. could try purge dkms and then install headers
[20:41] <elhoir> i realized i have acpi-call-dlms installed
[20:41] <elhoir> i have just tried to purge it
[20:42] <elhoir> genii, http://pastebin.com/4M5Pz7BW
[20:44] <genii> elhoir: I would attempt now: sudo apt-get -f install    (with no packagename) and see if that completes or also complains
[20:45] <elhoir> it complains
[20:45] <elhoir> i have done it many times
[20:45] <elhoir> "mkinitramfs: for device /dev/sda1 missing sda1 /sys/block/ entry"
[20:45] <elhoir> :-/
[20:46] <elhoir> http://pastebin.com/LtzaDzNd
[20:47] <genii> That mkinitramfs error looks like something you might see in a chroot environment
[20:48] <elhoir> not important then?
[20:49] <genii> Well, it would not be able to make an initrd though
[20:50] <genii> So you would get a kernel in /boot without a corresponding ramdisk there
[20:50] <genii> ARE you in a chroot, or on actual system ?
[20:50] <elhoir> actual system
[20:51] <genii> Yes, so not a normal error.
[20:51] <elhoir> i dont know what do u mean with chroot, actually?
[20:51] <elhoir> ..
[20:51] <genii> elhoir: If you don't know what a chroot is then odds are you are not in a chroot
[20:52] <elhoir> i use sudo xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[20:52] <elhoir> is that chroot?
[20:53] <genii> elhoir: chroot is when you change the root of your filesystem to a different place than /, and then CHange ROOT to there and it becomes the new /
[20:54] <elhoir> ah hehe then no, im not at chroot
[20:54] <genii> elhoir: Is the hard drive it is using inside the machine or outside?
[20:54] <elhoir> inside
[20:54] <genii> ( I see a similar bug but for USB drive installs)
[20:54] <elhoir> no its not USB
[20:54] <elhoir> and no dual boot windows-linux
[20:55] <elhoir> this is an ubuntu exclusive machine :)
[20:55] <elhoir> separate /home partition, through
[20:57] <elhoir> gotta to for supper
[20:57] <elhoir> go*
[21:00]  * genii ponders bug 1538710
[22:17] <elhoir|afk> back
[22:21] <elhoir> genii, any idea? you gave me as impossible? :P
[22:22] <genii> elhoir: No other immediate ideas, but something may occur to me later
[22:23] <elhoir> ok thank you