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| hikiko | hi | 06:05 |
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| ioanm | hi guys, 1 question I have noticed a bug in unity 7 in ubuntu 14.04 lts whenever i launch an app in the recent list, the icon disappears from the unity search window while the app(if I press super i can see the icon disappear) and reappears short after app closes | 07:58 |
| ioanm | may I be assigned to fix it? | 07:59 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:02 |
| ioanm | seb128, hi | 08:02 |
| seb128 | ioanm, hey, I think what you describe is a feature and not a bug | 08:02 |
| seb128 | why would you want to start something already open? | 08:03 |
| ioanm | seb128, you might wanna open two firefox instances | 08:04 |
| ioanm | seb128, or 2 terminals | 08:04 |
| pitti | hey seb128, bonjour ! | 08:04 |
| seb128 | ioanm, you can use the launcher icon for that | 08:04 |
| happyaron | hey seb128, :) | 08:05 |
| seb128 | if something is open you have an icon in the launcher | 08:05 |
| ioanm | seb128, so it's a feature | 08:05 |
| seb128 | hey pitti happyaron | 08:05 |
| seb128 | ioanm, would need to check with Trevinho to be sure but I think it's on purpose yes | 08:05 |
| ioanm | seb128, being a dev seems unlike someone would delete an icon by mistake | 08:05 |
| ioanm | from memory | 08:05 |
| ioanm | *unlikely | 08:05 |
| ioanm | seb128, okay please ask him | 08:08 |
| seb128 | ioanm, well you can as well, he's on this channel | 08:08 |
| seb128 | though he might be travelling back from fosdem tonight | 08:09 |
| seb128 | tonight->today | 08:10 |
| larsu | good morning! | 08:15 |
| ioanm | larsu, gm too | 08:16 |
| ioanm | can someone please assign to me something to work on? | 08:16 |
| Laney | heeeeeeeeeeeeeey | 08:20 |
| larsu | Laney: heeyyy! | 08:21 |
| pitti | good morning Laney and larsu! | 08:21 |
| ioanm | i'll just sync cmd2 | 08:22 |
| larsu | hi pitti! Did you have a good trip home? | 08:28 |
| larsu | (are you home?) | 08:28 |
| pitti | larsu: yes, I am; it was nice and calm in first class :) | 08:30 |
| pitti | got to bed around 1:30 | 08:30 |
| pitti | larsu: how about you? | 08:30 |
| larsu | nice! | 08:31 |
| larsu | we're great! Sitting in a fancy meeting room for a sprint of 3 :) | 08:31 |
| Laney | related link: http://162.213.34.169/html/xenial/main/issues/index.html | 08:33 |
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| seb128 | hey again there | 08:48 |
| larsu | seb128:! | 08:49 |
| Laney | seeeeeeeeeeeb | 08:49 |
| larsu | good moning | 08:49 |
| larsu | when do you come down? | 08:49 |
| seb128 | lol, good one | 08:49 |
| seb128 | I said I might do it, but likely not | 08:49 |
| seb128 | my laptop is giving ata kernel error | 08:49 |
| seb128 | ecryptfs-mount segfaults in libnss3 | 08:49 |
| seb128 | trying to get back to my user dir and datas | 08:50 |
| seb128 | that's annoying | 08:50 |
| seb128 | that's not a good start of week :-/ | 08:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, larsu, how is the hackfest going? | 08:50 |
| larsu | seb128: :( Good luck! | 08:50 |
| seb128 | thanks | 08:51 |
| larsu | seb128: just teasing you ;) | 08:51 |
| seb128 | I know :-) | 08:51 |
| seb128 | I wonder if the laptop or the disk is at issue | 08:51 |
| larsu | seb128: we're in a fancy room that is too big. Otherwise we just started out | 08:51 |
| seb128 | or the kernel | 08:51 |
| larsu | ze kernel! | 08:51 |
| seb128 | did Matthias join you guys? | 08:51 |
| larsu | seb128: he's not here yet | 08:54 |
| seb128 | k | 08:55 |
| willcooke | morning all | 08:57 |
| larsu | willcooke: morning! thanks for the fancy room ;) | 08:59 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 08:59 |
| willcooke | larsu, ah, good. I just pinged Laney about that. All ok? | 08:59 |
| larsu | willcooke: I know you did :P (we read irc aloud) | 09:00 |
| larsu | willcooke: yep, it's great. Tea water not hot enough, but I think we'll be able to cope | 09:00 |
| willcooke | ha! | 09:01 |
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| alexarnaud | hello all! | 09:11 |
| alexarnaud | Do you have a good week-end ? | 09:11 |
| alexarnaud | . | 09:14 |
| seb128 | hey alexarnaud, yes w.e was good... how was yours? | 09:16 |
| andyrock | good morning | 09:24 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock, how are you? | 09:26 |
| andyrock | seb128: not bad thanks | 09:26 |
| andyrock | what about you? | 09:27 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks | 09:28 |
| seb128 | though fighting with disk/laptop issues | 09:28 |
| willcooke | morning alexarnaud andyrock | 09:30 |
| alexarnaud | seb128: very good week-end, thank you | 09:30 |
| alexarnaud | hey willcooke andyrock :)! | 09:30 |
| seb128 | hum, might be a kernel issue, boot with the previous kernel was fine | 09:48 |
| willcooke | uh oh | 09:48 |
| seb128 | if I boot the current one I get ata errors and libnss3.so gets corrupted on boot which makes ecryptfs-mount segfault | 09:48 |
| seb128 | which I had "fun" to debug | 09:48 |
| willcooke | yikes | 09:48 |
| seb128 | if I reinstall libnss3 I can mount it and log in | 09:49 |
| seb128 | but on reboot it gets corrupted again for some reason | 09:49 |
| seb128 | but at least I've a working machine now, after fiddling with debsums and reinstalling for like over an hour | 09:49 |
| willcooke | :(((( | 09:52 |
| ksamak | didrocks: hoy! back to work? | 09:58 |
| ksamak | XD | 09:58 |
| didrocks | hey! | 10:01 |
| didrocks | :) | 10:01 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks | 10:05 |
| seb128 | didrocks, how is life in marketing? | 10:06 |
| seb128 | having fancy tea served at the office? ;-) | 10:06 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 :) | 10:11 |
| didrocks | tsssss ;) | 10:11 |
| didrocks | still with a cappuccino | 10:12 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 10:13 |
| seb128 | how was fosdem? | 10:13 |
| seb128 | and you trip to London? | 10:13 |
| seb128 | your* | 10:13 |
| didrocks | fosdem was fun, as usual! | 10:16 |
| didrocks | trip to London, 30 minutes late (stopped at Calais for a long time) | 10:17 |
| didrocks | but otherwise, good | 10:17 |
| seb128 | great | 10:18 |
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| alexarnaud | didrocks: do you change of job ? Do you wear sun glasses ? | 11:02 |
| ogra_ | suits and ties | 11:03 |
| didrocks | and drinking champaign the whole time! | 11:09 |
| ogra_ | ! | 11:09 |
| willcooke | http://i.imgur.com/58TsPOP.gif | 11:11 |
| ogra_ | +1 | 11:12 |
| ogra_ | :) | 11:12 |
| alexarnaud | seb128: Where can I find the latest branch of the gnome-settings-daemon package ? | 11:13 |
| alexarnaud | seb128: I start to search at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon but I don't find the branch related to Xenial | 11:13 |
| davmor2 | alexarnaud: https://media.giphy.com/media/4c5OF9pxc9pao/giphy.gif | 11:14 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: this is always the response if someone asks if you wear sunglasses ;) ^ | 11:14 |
| willcooke | :D | 11:15 |
| alexarnaud | darkxst: sorry I'm0 visual impaired, I don't understand the fun of the image | 11:16 |
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| darkxst | alexarnaud, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-settings-daemon/ubuntu | 11:18 |
| darkxst | alexarnaud, what image? | 11:18 |
| davmor2 | alexarnaud: It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark............ and we are wearing sunglasses (Quote from blues brothers) | 11:19 |
| darkxst | alexarnaud, in general packaging branches are listed under vcs-bzr tag in the packages debian/control if they exist | 11:20 |
| alexarnaud | darkxst: thanks | 11:26 |
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| qengho | When your logrotate is still running at 9AM, there's something wrong. // -rw-r----- 1 syslog adm 517G Jan 24 10:37 /var/log/kern.log.1 | 13:59 |
| qengho | Good morning! | 13:59 |
| willcooke | hey qengho | 14:01 |
| seb128 | hello qengho | 14:02 |
| seb128 | kernel fun it seems! | 14:02 |
| seb128 | or is that some third party driver you use or something? | 14:02 |
| qengho | Oh, nouveau, Thanks for 58 thousand syslog messages per second (alternating, a,b,a,b,a,b so there is no de-duplication). | 14:02 |
| qengho | Oh man, that's only 14 minutes of syslog. | 14:08 |
| qengho | willcooke: did you find the Tube entrance? | 15:24 |
| willcooke | qengho, yes! I'll post some pics | 15:24 |
| qengho | Sweet. | 15:25 |
| willcooke | qengho, https://goo.gl/photos/uhNahNAMGZUt8gSr6 | 15:41 |
| willcooke | desktoppers, pics from Friday ^^ | 15:41 |
| seb128 | willcooke, did they turn it into a museum or something or was it a special day? | 15:42 |
| willcooke | they use it for training and film sets. When it's not being used they run tours round | 15:42 |
| seb128 | cool | 15:43 |
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| Laney | larsu: http://162.213.34.169/scratch/html/xenial/main/index.html | 17:22 |
| larsu | when does free willcooke come about? | 17:31 |
| larsu | Laney is asking | 17:31 |
| willcooke | eh? | 17:31 |
| larsu | he *might* have meant free will instead | 17:32 |
| larsu | *maybe* | 17:32 |
| seb128 | manager trolling! | 17:35 |
| seb128 | though I've to say I didn't understand the trolling :-/ | 17:35 |
| Laney | probably only makes sense in this one room | 17:36 |
| seb128 | what I though :p | 17:36 |
| larsu | seb128: never would we troll anyone! | 17:40 |
| seb128 | jjjja | 17:41 |
| alexarnaud | didrocks: are you available to discuss packaging of session-migration ? | 17:41 |
| seb128 | alexarnaud, you better just ask your question on the channel, didrocks is travelling for a sprint this week | 17:41 |
| alexarnaud | OK seb128 | 17:41 |
| alexarnaud | I'm trying to compile session-migration on Debian Sid | 17:42 |
| alexarnaud | I've a path issue | 17:46 |
| alexarnaud | http://paste.ubuntu.com/14850930/ | 17:46 |
| alexarnaud | I'm trying to change the install file with debian/tmp/ at the begining of each lines without result. | 17:48 |
| alexarnaud | With "debian/tmp/" at the begining of each lines I obtain a "permission denied" even if I'm in root | 17:48 |
| alexarnaud | maybe something I don't know in the diffrence between Debian and Ubuntu | 17:49 |
| seb128 | alexarnaud, do you have that debian/session-migration.install file? | 17:54 |
| seb128 | can you share your source directory? | 17:54 |
| alexarnaud | seb128: yes, I have | 17:55 |
| alexarnaud | I use the upstream Ubuntu file | 17:56 |
| alexarnaud | http://paste.ubuntu.com/14851008/ | 17:56 |
| seb128 | can you do "ls -R debian/tmp" | 17:57 |
| alexarnaud | seb128: I've modified the install file like that | 17:57 |
| seb128 | in the builddir when you get the issue | 17:57 |
| seb128 | why did you modify them? | 17:57 |
| seb128 | it uses debian/compat 9 | 17:57 |
| seb128 | so usr/... is correct | 17:58 |
| alexarnaud | seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14851023/ | 17:58 |
| seb128 | what's the issue if you try to build the unmodified source? | 17:58 |
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| alexarnaud | The issue is that : /home/test/session-migration/session-migration/debian/session-migration.install: 1: /home/test/session-migration/session-migration/debian/session-migration.install: usr/bin/session-migration: not found | 17:59 |
| alexarnaud | I don't know what it doesn't find the file | 18:00 |
| alexarnaud | seb128: it this log (http://paste.ubuntu.com/14850930/) you can find the all log | 18:00 |
| alexarnaud | I've read it but I don't know the issue. | 18:01 |
| seb128 | alexarnaud, try to "dh_install -v --fail-missing" | 18:02 |
| seb128 | and see what it says | 18:02 |
| alexarnaud | seb128: OK | 18:02 |
| seb128 | and see if e.g debian/tmp/usr/bin/session-migration is available | 18:02 |
| alexarnaud | For me it's the same log | 18:07 |
| alexarnaud | seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14851107/ | 18:07 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks for the patch hint! I'm building n-m and will check tonight :) | 18:17 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yw, thanks for testing! | 18:31 |
| seb128 | alexarnaud, weird, dunno what's going on, try starting dh_install manually and see if the files it lists are on disk | 18:31 |
| Laney | larsu is having a sad time with python | 18:34 |
| seb128 | :-( | 18:34 |
| didrocks | but but, python is great! | 18:34 |
| seb128 | didrocks is at the wrong sprint | 18:34 |
| didrocks | :p | 18:34 |
| seb128 | he should be Brussel! | 18:34 |
| seb128 | +in | 18:35 |
| Laney | come back | 18:35 |
| Laney | it's only 2 hours | 18:35 |
| didrocks | ahah | 18:36 |
| Laney | we haz clouds | 18:38 |
| alexarnaud | hum | 18:41 |
| alexarnaud | ls -l debian/tmp/usr/bin/ | 18:41 |
| alexarnaud | total 36 | 18:41 |
| alexarnaud | -rwxr-xr-x 1 test test 35080 Feb 1 19:07 session-migration | 18:41 |
| alexarnaud | (sorry for the paste) | 18:41 |
| alexarnaud | the files are available in debian/tmp/ | 18:42 |
| willcooke | morning robert_ancell | 20:18 |
| willcooke | *pounce* | 20:18 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, hi | 20:18 |
| robert_ancell | I was ready for it :) | 20:18 |
| willcooke | :) | 20:19 |
| Laney | we are l8 nite sprinting | 20:19 |
| willcooke | attente, seb128 - if you guys are around, can you be free in say, 20 mins? | 20:19 |
| willcooke | oh hi Laney | 20:19 |
| willcooke | Laney, you might want in on this too, if you're free in 20 mins ^ | 20:19 |
| attente | sure | 20:20 |
| Laney | possiblé | 20:20 |
| willcooke | he's buggered off | 20:20 |
| willcooke | so he has, he's scarped | 20:20 |
| willcooke | </python:monty> | 20:20 |
| willcooke | oki, I've just got a quick 1:1 with Robert and then we'll hangout and talk GS | 20:21 |
| seb128 | willcooke, k | 20:30 |
| seb128 | hey robert_ancell | 20:30 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, hi | 20:30 |
| willcooke | Laney, attente, seb128 - https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/robert-will?authuser=0 | 20:53 |
| Laney | I have requested to join | 20:56 |
| willcooke | thank you all | 21:10 |
| willcooke | Laney, Laney seb128, attente robert_ancell ^ | 21:11 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, are fwupd/fwupdate pieces we need to land it? or are they to enable extra features which we could do with a following upload? | 21:11 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yw! | 21:11 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I have MIRs for all the components for GS 3.18. Haven't looked yet at any more work required to backport from master | 21:11 |
| Laney | meet ximion | 21:11 |
| seb128 | hey ximion | 21:12 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, yeah, but https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fwupdate/+bug/1508926 seems like the security team might need time to do another review and had issues, so they might still have some concerns | 21:12 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1508926 in fwupdate (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fwupdate" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 21:12 |
| ximion | robert_ancell: hi! I heard you have pinned down the remove-doesnt-work issue in gnome-software? | 21:12 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, no, I think willcooke was mixing up with another issue there | 21:13 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, one of the comment is "needs pesign from universe" | 21:13 |
| Laney | what's the packagekit problem then? | 21:13 |
| seb128 | and that doesn't seem like it has a MIR yet? | 21:13 |
| ximion | robert_ancell: damn - hughsie and I looked at it and found no issue on the PackageKit side, although hughsie still thinks the aptcc backend might be to blame. I placed a bet on a g-s bug now :P | 21:14 |
| ximion | maybe I will look at this issue again next | 21:14 |
| ximion | it also affects Debian and is really annoying | 21:14 |
| Laney | it's broken in debian too | 21:14 |
| Laney | :) | 21:14 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, I will have a look too and see if I can see anything | 21:14 |
| Laney | or :( | 21:14 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, said differently, I foresee that the fwupdate MIR ack is going to take some time, are we blocked by it or is a way to build without it so we can land gnome-software even if it doesn't have those options working (yet) | 21:15 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, We can patch out the fwupd stuff since it's all new if necessary | 21:15 |
| seb128 | k, good | 21:15 |
| Laney | it's a configure check | 21:15 |
| robert_ancell | even easier | 21:15 |
| seb128 | even better | 21:15 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, G-S is pretty modular so it's not hard to disable/enable various features. | 21:16 |
| ximion | robert_ancell: that'd be great - we know so far that aptcc emits all the expected signals g-s needs, pkcon works flawlessly, this issue does not affect KDE Discover or Elementary's Appcenter, and GNOME-Software is internally really unhappy about an application changing its state from installed to available without going through the required uninstallation step | 21:16 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, cool, that might be needed | 21:16 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, is there a bug open somewhere? | 21:16 |
| Laney | Dell people want fwupd by the way ;-) | 21:18 |
| robert_ancell | Everyone wants fwupd | 21:18 |
| Laney | people with £££ are more equal than others :P | 21:18 |
| ximion | robert_ancell: on Debian, yes: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=804094 | 21:18 |
| ubot5` | Debian bug 804094 in gnome-software "gnome-software: Fails to remove applications" [Normal,Open] | 21:18 |
| seb128 | yeah, I'm rjust ready to bet that the review is not going to be done by ff | 21:19 |
| seb128 | and would rather not block the landing on it | 21:19 |
| seb128 | we can have a ffe | 21:19 |
| Laney | makes sense | 21:20 |
| ximion | robert_ancell: are you planning on shipping Xenial with g-s 3.20? We have a lot of changes in there which you definitely want in the LTS, and maybe hughsie can be convinced to not depend on the ost recent GTK+... | 21:21 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, currently just looking at 3.18 + backporting what is necessary | 21:22 |
| robert_ancell | but I guess we'd be open to 3.20 if there's no side effects | 21:22 |
| Laney | it still requires gtk 3.18 only | 21:23 |
| Laney | Files to download: 257695 MiB | 21:23 |
| Laney | debmirror is go! | 21:23 |
| robert_ancell | \o/ | 21:23 |
| Laney | also http://appstream.ubuntu.com/ | 21:23 |
| Laney | cool page right | 21:23 |
| robert_ancell | Laney, a work of art | 21:24 |
| attente | nice | 21:24 |
| seb128 | Laney, I wouldn't bet on that to stay | 21:25 |
| pitti | shiny! | 21:25 |
| seb128 | but I guess the gtk 3.20 requirement could be reverted | 21:25 |
| seb128 | if they bump it | 21:25 |
| seb128 | which most GNOME is doing because of the css work... | 21:26 |
| pitti | really, that logo looks so crowbared in -- is that really our default apache? | 21:26 |
| Laney | someone could just talk to him... | 21:26 |
| ximion | robert_ancell: I fixed a lot of fwupd and Limba related crashes in 3.20, if you use 3.18 I should probably backport them to that version | 21:26 |
| Laney | pitti: yeah, horrible right | 21:26 |
| ximion | robert_ancell: if someone's working on Snappy support, 3.20 would be almost essential - hughsie added a lot of convenient stuff for 3rd-party package installers to g-s | 21:27 |
| seb128 | ximion, do you know if 3.20 is likely to pick a depends on gtk 3.20 during the cycle or is it going to work on GNOME/GTK 3.18? | 21:27 |
| * ximion asks hughsie | 21:28 | |
| seb128 | I guess it might be easier to take 3.20 and revert the gtk changes if there is any, rather than backporting all what we need to 3.18 | 21:29 |
| seb128 | well depending if they pick newer depends on other parts of the stack we don't have... | 21:29 |
| robert_ancell | 3.20 will make my patches easier to propose upstream | 21:31 |
| Laney | robert_ancell is already working with hughsie, so could mention that we might want to do this | 21:31 |
| Laney | when thinking about bumping deps | 21:32 |
| Laney | maybe :) | 21:32 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, is Debian going to have the new appstream required for g-s 3.20? | 21:33 |
| ximion | robert_ancell: yes, I will add it when I'm back from Brussels | 21:35 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, ok, cool | 21:35 |
| ximion | hughsie just merged a patch we definitely want for g-s ;-) - and the current Git master also contains some important fixes | 21:37 |
| ximion | (like one preventing it to load any data at all, in some situations) | 21:37 |
| ximion | so we'll definitely have an even newer version soon (or the patches backported in Debian too) | 21:37 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, so looking I think the only reason I went with 3.18 is it was released and appstream wasn't new enough to work with it. The changes look fine for us to use in Xenial. | 21:39 |
| Laney | |o/ | 21:44 |
| Laney | \o| | 21:44 |
| ximion | robert_ancell: awesome! No reply from Richard on the GTK+ dependency of g-s yet, but there just was a commit a few hours ago making g-s work well with GTK+3.18 | 21:51 |
| ximion | so there's a good chance :) | 21:51 |
| robert_ancell | ximion, I don't think there's much he'd change this close to release | 21:52 |
| ximion | right | 21:56 |
| willcooke | right, calling it a night. Thanks to everyone working late | 22:06 |
| pitti | bonne nuit tout le monde ! | 22:06 |
| seb128 | night | 22:07 |
| willcooke | au revoir | 22:07 |
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