[05:39] <Kilos> morning everybody
[05:49] <mazal> More oom Kilos
[05:49] <Kilos> ai! net-splits again
[05:49] <mazal> Oh koos
[05:49] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[05:50] <mazal> Gaanit daar oom ?
[05:57] <Kilos> goed dankie en daar mazal 
[05:58] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[05:59] <mazal> Raasie baie nie
[06:10] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:10] <Kilos> hi pieter2627 what happened to chesedo
[06:11] <pieter2627> Kilos: have no idea...
[06:11]  * pieter2627 checking
[06:11] <Kilos> lol
[06:13]  * chesedo seems to have had network issues at around 5am and got switched to pieter2627
[06:14] <Kilos> many net-splits the weekend
[06:14] <Kilos> and this morning as well
[06:14] <Kilos> freenode under attack by brats again
[06:16] <mazal> Morning chesedo
[06:17] <superfly> Hi Kilos 
[06:17] <mazal> Morning superfly
[06:18]  * Padroni waves hello
[06:18] <Kilos> hi Padroni 
[06:18] <mazal> Hi Padroni
[06:19] <Padroni> how are you guys?
[06:19] <mazal> Ok and you ?
[06:19] <Kilos> ok here ty
[06:19] <Kilos> hows you?
[06:19] <superfly> Hi mazal, Padroni 
[06:20] <Padroni> I"m good
[06:20] <Padroni> Hi superfly 
[06:23] <Padroni> so what is news?
[06:24] <Kilos> another day in paradise
[06:28] <Padroni> lol
[06:28] <Padroni> I am afk-chatting
[06:28] <Padroni> so if anything said is directed to me, please tag me so I can see the notification
[06:29] <Kilos> ok
[06:29] <Padroni> got served with another subpoena on friday afternoon
[06:29] <Padroni> 30min before my day ended
[06:29] <Padroni> decided to leave it for today
[06:29] <Padroni> so gotta resolve that quickly 
[06:29] <Kilos> ai!
[06:36] <Squirm> Morning
[06:38] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[06:53] <superfly> Padroni: Subpoena? Eish that's not nice.
[07:28] <Padroni> superfly, it's part of the job if you're in infosec
[07:28] <Padroni> if there's a fraud case, the SAPS will subpoena you for evidence
[07:28] <Padroni> the first one I got almost gave me a heart attack
[07:29] <Kilos> lol
[07:29] <Padroni> now - if they don't follow protocol, they get sent back until they get it right.
[07:29] <Padroni> one of these took over 2 years to get served according to procedure 
[07:29] <Padroni> so it can be a lengthy process.
[07:48] <superfly> Padroni: right
[07:54] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:55] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[08:02] <Padroni> morning inetpro 
[08:17] <anton_may> Good morning, goeie môre, dumelang
[08:18] <superfly> hi
[08:19] <Kilos> hi anton_may 
[08:19] <Kilos> sawubona
[08:27] <Padroni> so tell me
[08:27] <Padroni> what is happening with the blog now?
[08:27] <Padroni> and what will be put on there?
[08:27] <Padroni> tutorials?
[08:31] <dlPhreak> http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/
[08:36] <Kilos> Padroni what blog?
[08:36] <Kilos> im battling to keep up here
[08:44] <cal_py> morning Everyone
[08:44] <Padroni> meeting from the other night
[08:45] <Padroni> adding a blog to the site was disussed
[08:45] <Padroni> I am asking what content will be on the blog
[08:45] <Kilos> hi cal_py 
[08:45] <Kilos> oh fly was gonna sort that
[08:46] <Padroni> superfly, a word when you got time?
[08:51] <chesedo> wasn't that for africa's
[09:05] <Padroni> yeah, it was
[10:37] <klaasvakie> Hi guys. I'm looking to send one of my guys to gain some networking skills, and I was wondering if there are any courses you would recommend? Basically I need to be able to put this guy down on site at a company and he has to work with their IT to get our equipment set up and integrated.
[10:37] <Kilos> hi klaasvakie 
[10:38] <klaasvakie> Hi Kilos
[10:38] <Sxuza> Best and easiest free FTP client out there
[10:39] <klaasvakie> I've looked at the Network+ stuff, and the CCENT stuff, but I am not sure how good they actually are.
[10:42] <Sxuza> its kewl  , i got Cyberduck
[10:42] <Sxuza> thanks 
[11:02] <chesedo> Network+ is the most popular that i'm aware of, but the smart ones here will add their voices soon
[11:05] <chesedo> klaasvakie: you might have to be ready to define what integration means to you (hardware and possible software wise) to avoid possible confusion
[11:07] <chesedo> Kilos: who here runs the mirror again cause he might know
[11:09] <inetpro> chesedo: depends what mirror you're talking about
[11:10] <chesedo> inetpro: the repo one...
[11:10] <chesedo> ubuntu mirror
[11:12] <inetpro> Maaz: mirrors
[11:12] <Maaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[11:13] <chesedo> inetpro: yes those. someone those the neotel one (i think) for za
[11:14] <chesedo> neology
[11:14] <inetpro> Maaz: neology
[11:14] <Maaz> Ubuntu mirror "Neology" https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za-archive Official Archive Mirrors for Ubuntu https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[11:15] <inetpro> don't think it's the official mirror for the country
[11:17] <Kilos> wow i forgot his nick again
[11:17] <inetpro> I see za.archive.ubuntu.com now points to ubuntu-archive.mirror.liquidtelecom.com
[11:17] <chesedo> from the list in the last link it is the most up-to-date
[11:17] <Kilos> they are actually quite good
[11:18] <chesedo> hmm... kenya has the official for za??
[11:20] <inetpro> ja, must be Symmetria's efforts that
[11:26] <Kilos> cuttingedge is his nick
[11:26] <Kilos> i dont know if he is still with neology even
[11:27] <Kilos> chesedo why arent you in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members
[11:28] <Kilos> oops sorry
[11:28] <Kilos> blame old eyes
[11:28] <Kilos> or dirty glasses hehe
[11:43] <Symmetria> heh
[11:43] <Symmetria> yes there is a reason for it
[11:43] <Symmetria> the bandwidth on the KE mirror is *FAR* greater than out of any of the ZA mirrors 
[11:43] <Symmetria> and the latency is low 
[11:43] <Symmetria> and the hardware is far far superior to handle the load
[11:44] <Symmetria> and its properly v6 connected and has proper peering 
[11:44] <chesedo> Symmetria: stop please... proud za peeps here
[11:44] <Symmetria> chesedo lol, facts are facts
[11:44] <Kilos> haha
[11:44] <Kilos> Symmetria <Sxuza> Best and easiest free FTP client out there
[11:45] <Kilos> can you advise?
[11:45] <Symmetria> I have like, 20 times more bandwidth into my house in KE than the ZA mirrors have available total :p lol
[11:45] <Symmetria> lftp 
[11:45] <Symmetria> for linux
[11:45] <Symmetria> (chesedo lol, scary thing is, that 20 times figure isn't an exaggeration)
[11:46] <chesedo> FileZilla or nautilus has ftp built in
[11:46] <Kilos> klaasvakie ^^
[11:46] <Symmetria> filezilla works well as well for a GUI client
[11:46] <chesedo> Symmetria: that's very sad X|
[11:46] <Symmetria> on GUI filezilla is what I use everywhere
[11:46] <klaasvakie> Kilos, thx reading now - just got back to my keyboard
[11:47] <Kilos> np
[11:47] <Symmetria> chesedo lol, I have 2 x 10gigabit fibers into my house ;p
[11:47] <inetpro> Maaz: ftp
[11:47] <Maaz> Dump FTP! http://www.43folders.com/2008/07/14/dump-ftp see also: FTP must Die!! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[11:49] <Kilos> Symmetria advise here too please
[11:49] <klaasvakie> chesedo, it's usually our hardware at the endpoints, but using the customer infrastructure so he won't have to reconfigure switches and setup trunks etc, but het has to be able to figure out if the switch/vlan etc. configuration is the problem and then get the customer to fix it.
[11:49] <Kilos>  Hi guys. I'm looking to send one of my guys to gain some networking skills, and I was wondering if there are any courses you would recommend? Basically I need to be able to put this guy down on site at a company and he has to work with their IT to get our equipment set up and integrated.
[11:49] <Symmetria> kilos what sorta equipment
[11:50] <Symmetria> I'd recommend a CCNA as a base network course, or a JNCIA
[11:50] <Kilos> klaasvakie chat to Symmetria networking is his game
[11:50] <Symmetria> they are a little vendor specific, but they will give good grounding
[11:50] <klaasvakie> Symmetria, Kilos was reposting my question from earlier
[11:51] <Kilos> now i can have a ballie nap
[11:51] <Symmetria> the CCNA is probably the most common
[11:51] <klaasvakie> I looked at Network+ and CCNA, but not sure how good they are
[11:51] <Symmetria> and can be followed by a CCNP
[11:52] <Symmetria> network+ is a waste of time
[11:52] <klaasvakie> do you have a training provider you can recommend? Good to know about the network+
[11:52] <Symmetria> nope, aint worked with any of the training providers in ZA
[11:52] <klaasvakie> I'd like something vendor neutral since different customers have different setups, but as long as the basics are good I don't really care if there are some vendor specific parts
[11:53] <Symmetria> heh, the CCNA will teach the theory as well as teh cisco parts
[11:54] <klaasvakie> how good is someone with just a CCENT?
[12:03] <Padroni> Symmetria, why do you say N+ is a waste of time?
[13:26] <Squirm> How is everyone?
[13:26] <Kilos> ok ty Squirm and you?
[13:26] <Squirm> Yeah - Going well
[13:51] <Padroni> I"m off
[13:51] <Padroni> see in the morning, peeps
[14:57] <klaasvakie> cheers all, thanks for the help
[18:24] <inetpro> good evenin
[18:31] <Kilos> ohi inetpro 
[18:31] <Kilos> haha @ julle tweetjies
[18:31] <Kilos> ons maak ons vlieg moeg
[18:32] <inetpro> duidelik
[18:32] <Kilos> ons kan even speel
[19:27] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight