[00:09] <diddledan> I'm guessing .net is a big project to run through ALL TEH TESTS: http://dotnet-ci.cloudapp.net/job/dotnet_cli/
[06:38] <mapps> hi all
[07:58] <MooDoo> morning
[08:29] <knightwise> ²morning peeps
[08:32] <MooDoo> morning
[08:49] <popey> ²morning
[09:04] <MooDoo> popey: shame about the brick :( I did that to my asus router
[09:04] <popey> yeah, annoying
[09:04] <popey> probably fixable, just irritating as I don't have time for this bs
[09:04] <davmor2> popey: what happened dude
[09:04] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:05] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[09:05] <MooDoo> I've just had a new virgin media router, so just using that for now...
[09:06] <davmor2> MooDoo: has it not broken yet?
[09:07] <MooDoo> davmor2: no it's the superhub 2ac, it's pretty stable at the moment, it's nice having 2.5 and 5 ghz wireless :)
[09:09] <davmor2> MooDoo: had that for an age killed the first one they sent a second it never arrived sent a 3rd and the second arrived at that point I switched it from router to modem only and used my own tp-link with open-wrt and never looked back :)
[09:11] <MooDoo> davmor2: yeah i had that setup myself, but as the router is in the kids room, decided I didn't want lots of boxes/cables in their to fiddle with and aint paying £100 to get VM to move the box downstairs into the living room
[09:11] <MooDoo> *there
[09:20] <popey> davmor2, i needed to update dd-wrt because my install was old and buggy
[09:20] <popey> downloaded the flash update and uploaded it to my router, now it wont boot
[09:21] <davmor2> popey: ouch that's not fun
[09:22] <davmor2> popey: does the router have a reset button (read up first but, but see if that will save you)
[09:22] <popey> yeah
[09:22] <popey> it has a whole process for resetting
[09:22] <popey> didn't work
[09:22] <popey> need to look more into it when i have time
[09:23]  * davmor2 hope you can get it sorted
[09:24] <popey> yeah
[09:24] <popey> had to switch wifi back on, on my vm "super" hub
[09:27] <davmor2> popey: how you finding it
[09:30] <popey> only been like that for 10 hours
[09:30] <popey> will let you know later
[09:30] <popey> or not if I replace dd-wrt with openwrt
[09:34] <davmor2> popey: openwrt is a learning curve over dd-wrt but it seems to work much better on my tp-link than dd-wrt was
[09:38] <popey> yeah, i have two netgears, one has dd-wrt and the other has openwrt
[09:43] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Tuesday, and happy Hedgehog Day! 😃
[09:48] <davmor2> JamesTait: nothing says hedgehog like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-DPi9UIFTo
[09:51] <JamesTait> davmor2, I give you https://youtu.be/rZEnWhefCZI
[09:56] <davmor2> JamesTait: not as good as narwhals
[09:59] <JamesTait> davmor2, but more hedgehogy.
[09:59] <davmor2> JamesTait: not as good as narwhals or the badger song
[10:00] <JamesTait> The badger song came to mind first, but I figured there must be an actual hedgehog one.
[10:00] <davmor2> JamesTait: doesn't say hedgehog as many times as mine though :P
[10:02] <davmor2> JamesTait: I have in the back of my head that there is a song that had hedgehogs in it from the 80's I have a feeling though it might of been like part of the wombles song or something crazy like that
[10:10] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:36] <diplo> davmor2: http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/song-midis/Hedgehog_Song.htm
[10:36] <diplo> :P
[10:37] <diplo> How does something like that stay on the internet :D
[10:37] <diplo> Supposedly from discworld ?
[10:38] <awilkins> Yeah
[10:38] <awilkins> It's hinted at in the books
[10:38] <awilkins> Only snatches of lyrics
[10:38] <awilkins> But I think PTerry fans got together on the newsgroups and made these up
[10:38] <diplo> I've tried reading 2 of his books, failed both so far :/
[10:38] <awilkins> Which ones?
[10:38] <awilkins> His earlier work is not as good
[10:39] <awilkins> Starts getting good around book 4
[10:39] <diplo> First discworld one and something else that I can remember that I was recommended
[10:39] <diplo> Ah right, so persistence is key
[10:39] <awilkins> You can really see the improvement
[10:39] <diplo> I read 2-3 books a week and some are *REALLY* bad
[10:39] <diplo> Will try again
[10:39] <awilkins> They get as good as actually genuinely evoking tears
[10:40] <awilkins> The first two Discworld ones have some real continuity problems and lots of errors in the printings I have
[10:40] <diplo> OK, do I *need* to start one #1 ?
[10:40] <awilkins> Not really
[10:40] <awilkins> It may help to set the scene and the tone, but he does a good job of re-setting the scene in each Discworld novel
[10:41] <awilkins> You may miss a few in-jokes
[10:41] <awilkins> A lot of people love Rincewind but he's a bit of a one-joke character
[10:41] <diplo> If I remember correctly, I got to a bit in a bar where they meet someone to trade, or they've walked to a hill and someone attacks them ( been a good year or more since I tried! )
[10:42] <awilkins> You can tell that PTerry transferred his affections to Vimes as his big favourite
[10:43] <awilkins> The first two read more like a collection of short stories in retrospect
[10:43] <awilkins> Equal Rites, #3,  introduces one of his more beloved characters, Granny Weatherwax, who gets fleshed out a LOT more later
[10:44] <awilkins> #4 : Mort, for me is where it really starts to get good
[10:44] <awilkins> Reaper Man (the next big DEATH one) is wonderful
[10:49] <diplo> I've got a few of them in epub, will chuck them on the kindle and have a go
[10:50] <diplo> I read mainly espionage/crime stuff, but have read a few scifi type books. The halo books were suprisingly ok :)
[10:55] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:55] <bigcalm> !ping
[10:55] <lubotu3`> pong!
[10:55] <Myrtti> morning bigcalm
[10:56] <diplo> !ding
[10:56] <lubotu3`> dong
[10:57] <diplo> Morning bittin-
[10:57] <bigcalm> Aha, a better server
[10:57] <bigcalm> !sing
[10:57] <bigcalm> The server I was on was sending my data but not returning data from other servers
[10:58] <bigcalm> You could see me talking but I didn't see your responses until many hours later
[11:14] <diplo> :P
[11:15] <diplo> Oops, supposed to have said morning bigcalm :D I really can't multitask
[11:18] <davmor2> morning bigcalm how's life over your way?
[11:20] <bigcalm> davmor2: The Shrewsbury office was shaking in the wind yesterday. Today I'm at home and feeling less shook up
[11:21] <bigcalm> davmor2: keeping your sanity?
[11:23] <davmor2> bigcalm: Sanity that rings a bell, isn't that something normals have? I'm having fun though Honest, just ignore the tic it goes away in the end ;)
[13:07] <awilkins> Firefox is now annoying me enough to contemplate changing to Chromium
[13:07] <awilkins> Which is a PITA because it has all my links & bookmarks & passwords & stuff
[13:09] <zmoylan-pi> they do seem intent on making people switch
[13:10] <awilkins> It keeps doing this thing where it doesn't repaint the display
[13:10] <awilkins> You can flip tabs and the title changes, but nothing repaints
[13:10] <awilkins> I dunno, maybe it's a GPU bug or something
[13:10] <popey> sounds like a gpu acceleration issue
[13:11] <awilkins> WebGL is off.
[13:11] <awilkins> so... meh
[13:11] <awilkins> I'm on the latest nvidia binaries
[13:11] <awilkins> Maybe if I turn webgl ON
[13:13] <awilkins> Or is that nothing to do with the main painting loop?
[13:15] <zmoylan-pi> i have had very busy pages updating in the background slow the page in front been redrawn
[13:16] <awilkins> Yeah, I think that may be what's happening
[13:16] <zmoylan-pi> with tweetdeck i sometimes have to kill the tab
[13:16] <awilkins> Web twitter
[13:16] <awilkins> Newspaper websites too
[13:16] <awilkins> Seem to be really nasty cesspools of terrible performance
[13:26] <foobarry> where's a good place to buy greetings cards? anyone cheaper than moonpig/funkypigeon?
[13:29] <awilkins> Just don't participate in the destruction of our planet for a mere sentiment and phone the person to wish them happy <insert event here>?
[13:29] <foobarry> its the missis
[13:31] <foobarry> dont think it would go down well
[13:31] <foobarry> on the other hand i am happy receiving last years card
[13:32] <zmoylan-pi> print this off at home to save a few pennies... :-) http://platinumlynx.blogspot.ie/2010/02/tescos-value-valentines-card.html
[14:02] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: you've not got a valentine have you :P
[14:03] <MooDoo> http://tescovaluecards.com/ ;)
[14:06] <Myrtti> lol
[14:07] <davmor2> MooDoo: I double dare you to give that to your Wife as a serious Valentines card, Don't worry dude I have a net standing by to catch your head ;)
[14:14] <zmoylan-pi> or a vasectomy done via hobnail boots...
[14:19] <MooDoo> davmor2: That's more than she'd get any way...we don't do valentine
[14:20] <davmor2> MooDoo: I know but that would still be an insult for which you would suffer and you know it ;)  As Yoda says Do or Do not there is no try!!!!
[14:24] <MooDoo> I'll do not then
[14:24] <MooDoo> :)
[14:26] <davmor2> MooDoo: yeah my wife and I gave up on it many moons ago because every quadruples around then :)  So we save the money and spend more on birthdays instead :)
[14:30] <MooDoo> davmor2: we'll both be coming back from france on our birthdays
[15:17] <diddledan> I've got a weird BT broadbent problem - dad and I both have infinity in our respective homes. when I'm over his I can use DNS via his HomeHub to retreive an address which points to a 10.0.0.0/24 address (in public dns) but doing the same at home I can't get the DNS system to give me the 10.0.0.0/24 response
[15:19] <diddledan> e.g. from home `dig +short vpn.vpn.bangdynamics.com`: no response. using google's dns `dig +short vpn.vpn.bangdynamics.com @8.8.8.8` reponse: 10.0.0.1
[15:20] <diddledan> at dad's I get the correct 10.0.0.1 reply from BT DNS
[15:23] <m0nkey_> reboot your router
[15:23] <diddledan> we both have HomeHub 5 routers, so it's not a difference in hardware
[15:24] <_Sponge> redd.it/43u3bg
[15:24] <diddledan> \o/ spam!
[15:27] <MooDoo> yay spam spam spam spam spammety spam
[15:35] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8huXkSaL7o
[15:39]  * zmoylan-pi wonders what the click rate is for random url shortened link posted by drive by spammer in irc...
[15:40] <diddledan> in freenode I would imagine it to be low, due to the techy nature of the audience
[15:40] <zmoylan-pi> offset by ocd nature and curiousity of same... :-)
[15:40] <diddledan> irc servers with a more moron-focused audience it might be higher
[15:44] <zmoylan-pi> to the #microsoft channel! ::spinning bat logo::
[16:03] <diplo> diddledan: BT have major issues it appears
[16:04] <diplo> Just been on the phone to my dad talking through stuff, decided to check twitter, @BTCare are being hammered from all over the country of people complaining
[16:05]  * diplo should have checked Twitter first than deal my dad for the last 30/40 mins :D
[16:05] <zmoylan-pi> but... bt brought you together... :-)
[16:09] <davmor2> diplo: blames diddledan 's use of dig I would :D
[17:26] <sve> hey
[17:28] <sve> can i switch between a 2 bit install and a amd compatible one? via the usb install option?
[17:31] <davmor2> sve: not with ease, might be easier to back up any files you want and then do a fresh flash
[17:31] <davmor2> install even
[17:32] <sve> davmor2: im doing a sideby side install so i can resize partitions after tranfering the files to the new partition
[17:35] <sve> im using a USB i created with ubootin and im not getting any feedback from the install dialog
[17:55] <MooDoo> howcy
[18:04] <daftykins> o/
[18:16] <\sv> ok so i decided to go fror a fresh install. where to get the Hexchat config file from?
[18:18] <daftykins> "the hexchat config" being what?
[18:18] <daftykins> your existing one?
[18:18] <daftykins> .config/hexchat/ probably
[18:19] <\sv> ~/.config/hexchat apparenty (after googleing) how to copy this to my external hdd?
[18:20] <daftykins> are you using a non-GUI boot at the moment or something?
[18:20] <daftykins> as i find it a bit puzzling how a copy would be a challenge
[18:21] <daftykins> pressing ctrl+h would show hidden files in the GUI file manager nautilus, allowing you to copy+paste graphically by visiting the .config folder
[18:22] <\sv> gui
[18:23] <daftykins> as above then
[18:24] <\sv> ok thanks, hopfully i can just transfer those into the new install of hexchat
[18:24] <daftykins> 100% definitely, although install the package first then place the folder
[18:25] <\sv> im optimistic. this is ubuntu. so.... wish me well
[18:25] <\sv> lo
[18:25] <\sv> lol
[18:25] <daftykins> doesn't matter the OS, they all have their quirks
[18:26] <\sv> i've copied the files from my homefolder into an archive and copied them accross to the xternalhdd
[18:26] <\sv> are there any other file or folders i aught to copy?
[18:26] <daftykins> for hexchat, no.
[18:26] <\sv> in general though?
[18:27] <daftykins> an app would not specifically store data in ~/.config/ and then use another path
[18:27] <daftykins> well you need to state what you want
[18:27] <daftykins> in general you'd just copy the entire /home/username for a backup
[18:28] <\sv> :) im switching between 32 bit and t'uver one i cant use a backup file to restore tings can i?
[18:29] <daftykins> backup of home, yes.
[18:29] <daftykins> take the whole thing now, worry about the details later
[18:30] <diddledan> daftykins: where ya been?
[18:30] <\sv> ok, i know you cant simply upgrade the whole thing and this keeps crashing so hence this fresh install :)
[18:30] <diddledan> daftykins: did you get lost in the sea?
[18:31] <\sv> diddledan, daftykins has off being awesome. where else whould they be?
[18:31] <daftykins> diddledan: hey :) having a break really, had some work to do before Spain then just felt like avoiding the stresses and unpleasant folk we get on here :) ( #ubuntu )
[18:31] <daftykins> \sv: "has off" ?
[18:31] <diddledan> lol, fair enough :-)
[18:31] <\sv> daftykins, off round the world
[18:32] <daftykins> i don't think i'll hang around, quite enjoying being away :>
[18:33] <daftykins> \sv: where else what? please try phrasing a complete sentence and then maybe we can respond
[18:33] <daftykins> there would be nothing else to backup except /home/username/ as mentioned already
[18:34] <\sv> im making a copy of ./config just in case
[18:35] <daftykins> but that's a subfolder of /home/username/ ...
[18:35] <\sv> daftykins, i was saying you are awesome and youve been away from irc as you've been busy being awesome (we have met before)
[18:35] <daftykins> i'm saying grab the whole path ^_^
[18:35] <daftykins> oic, hehe - thanks
[19:25] <\sv> ok bbl
[20:13] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:20] <bittin-_> i got british tea :)
[22:21] <diddledan> \o/
[22:21] <diddledan> nothing better than british tea from thailand
[22:22] <Myrtti> I've got Finnish redbush from... somewhere
[22:23] <Myrtti> http://www.nordqvist.fi/en/products/the-moomins/all-things-fun-are-good-for-your-tummy.html
[23:04]  * m0nkey_ tickles diddledan
[23:04] <diddledan> eep