[00:00] <knome> !pkexec
[00:02] <RoadRunner> thank you :)
[00:02] <RoadRunner> !ubottu
[00:06] <RoadRunner> what is linux's command equivalent to DOS's cls (clear screen)?
[00:07] <knome> clear
[00:08] <RoadRunner> :)
[00:09] <RoadRunner> when installing with apt-get, is it recomended to shut down all running apps first?
[00:11] <GeekDude> No
[00:11] <GeekDude> Although you may consider shutting down/restarting apps that you are updating (if updating an app via apt-get)
[00:12] <GeekDude> Not necessarily as a precaution, but so you can get the new version after you restart it
[00:31] <Lazerc0bra> Hi
[00:31] <GeekDude> Hi
[00:32] <Lazerc0bra> Hey, quick question... Why do the Linux software repos all have an old, decrepit version of Firefox?
[00:33] <RoadRunner> GeekDude: after "sudo apt-get libnss-winbind" got "E: Invalid operation libnss-winbind"
[00:33] <GeekDude> hmm
[00:33] <Lazerc0bra> Use "sudo apt-get install libnss-windbind
[00:33] <Lazerc0bra> without the quotes
[00:34] <Lazerc0bra> My bad, "sudo apt-get install libnss-winbind"
[00:34] <Lazerc0bra> Again, no quotes.
[00:35] <GeekDude> In particular, remember the install keyword :)
[00:36] <Lazerc0bra> Also, I'd recommend periodically running "sudo apt-get -f install" to fix any dependency issues.
[00:36] <GeekDude> When would you run up against dependency issues?
[00:36] <Lazerc0bra> Eh, whenever. IDK, I install a lot of crap from third-party sources.
[00:37] <knome> Lazerc0bra, there are other tools for that
[00:37] <RoadRunner> RoadRunner is blushing...
[00:37] <Lazerc0bra> Hm?
[00:37] <knome> Lazerc0bra, normally, you don't need to do that (or if you do, the system will tell you so)
[00:38] <Lazerc0bra> Yeah, but when I just grab a .deb file from some website, I sometimes run into dependency errors, -f either fixes it or tells me what else to go get
[00:38] <Lazerc0bra> And when it tells me what to go get, oh... That's when the "fun" starts
[00:38] <knome> Lazerc0bra, i guess, but doing that isn't exactly recommended (as you likely know)
[00:38] <GeekDude> Grabbing and installing debs from random websites is not generally advised :P
[00:39] <GeekDude> Necessary in some cases, but usually not
[00:39] <knome> Lazerc0bra, what i'm trying to say is that the advice you are giving isn't really advice people need unless they are doing something they normally shouldn'y
[00:39] <Lazerc0bra> Well until they have UT99 in the official repos, I'll be doing that
[00:39] <Lazerc0bra> Yeah, I see what you mean
[00:39] <knome> it's your system...
[00:52] <RoadRunner> ok, so samba, libnss-winbind installed from terminal and system-config-samba from Ubuntu's soft center; starting from wiskers gives an error: "Failed to execute command 'gksu system-config-samba' Failed to execute child process 'gksu' (No such file or directory)"
[00:55] <RoadRunner> it would seem the earlier discussion of gksu went over my head but I am a newbie :)
[00:58] <RoadRunner> GeekDude: any advice
[00:58] <RoadRunner> ?
[00:59] <GeekDude> just run it from the terminal
[00:59] <GeekDude> sudo system-config-samba
[01:01] <GeekDude> you might have to create a config file for it first though. sudo touch /etc/libuser.conf
[01:03] <GeekDude> If you search in your whisker menu for "Menu Editor", then in the menu editor search for "Samba", you can change it to "sudo system-config-samba" then flip the "run in terminal" toggle on
[01:11] <RoadRunner> samba doesn't appear anywhere in the Manu Editor
[01:12] <RoadRunner> starting it from terninal started the Sambe Server Config window
[01:12] <RoadRunner> but I have no clue what to do with it
[01:14] <GeekDude> Create, Delete, and manage shares
[01:15] <RoadRunner> ok, so each share is to be  created/deleted/managed from here rather than from Thunar?
[01:16] <RoadRunner> I Samba would integrate into the file manager transparantly, to operate further like Win Explorer...
[01:16] <RoadRunner> *I thought ...
[01:16] <GeekDude> Samba is separate from any file manager
[01:17] <GeekDude> File managers are good for browsing shares, but Samba is required for actually making shares
[01:18] <RoadRunner> sorry for a stupid question, but why didn't the Samba team make it integrate into a default file manager after instalation for a smoother user experience?
[01:19] <GeekDude> Which file manager do you suggest they choose?
[01:19] <RoadRunner> I was hoping there is a file management standard that would allow to solve that problem
[01:21] <RoadRunner> ... judging by the insuing silence, it is what it is, am I right?
[01:23] <RoadRunner> ok, so why could I not find Samba in a Menu Editor?
[01:23] <GeekDude> If anything, the Thunar developers would be the ones who would add integration.
[01:23] <GeekDude> I'm not sure, system-config-samba was added to my menus as soon as it was installed.
[01:24] <GeekDude> under the name Samba, which it comes up as with a quick search
[01:25] <RoadRunner> I can see Samba in whisker menu under Settings, which is why I can't figure out why its not visible in the Menu Editor - its search finds nothing
[01:26] <RoadRunner> maybe I should restart the system?
[01:27] <GeekDude> most of the time just logging out and back in can help with issues like that
[01:27] <GeekDude> What version of Xubuntu are you running?
[01:28] <RoadRunner> 14.04
[01:28] <GeekDude> That may have a little to do with it, I'm not sure. I'm running 15.10
[01:30] <RoadRunner> before I disappear from this channel due to a restart; do I need to do any manual configuring at this point (as was discussed here https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html or was everything take care off automatically?
[01:31] <RoadRunner> *taken
[01:31] <GeekDude> system-config-samba takes care of configuring samba for you
[01:33] <RoadRunner> so when LAN win comps will come on, samba will detect workgroup name and autoconfigure the connection?
[01:35] <GeekDude> I'm not sure what you mean
[01:35] <GeekDude> autoconfigure which connection?
[01:36] <GeekDude> Samba is a file server, things connect to samba.
[01:36] <GeekDude> Thunar connects to other things
[01:38] <RoadRunner> time to give it a go, thanks for all the help :) !
[01:51] <RoadRunner|2> well, I restarted the sys but Samba didn't appear in Menu Editor
[01:51] <GeekDude> You can probably make your own entry for it if you want
[01:52] <GeekDude> Not probably. You can
[01:55] <RoadRunner|2> GeekDude: you mentioned earlier that I may have to "create a config file for system-config-samba first. sudo touch /etc/libuser.conf"; now that it started OK from terminal that is no longer an issue?
[02:06] <RoadRunner|2> GeekDude: sorry for asking to be spoon fed here, I guess all newbies are somewhat helpless in the beginning...
[02:18] <GeekDude> RoadRunner|2, as long as it starts, you're golden
[02:18] <GeekDude> If that file isn't already there the thing refuses to start
[02:18] <GeekDude> Hmm, maybe I should find the repo for this tool and patch it to fix that
[02:23] <RoadRunner|2> GeekDude: its great that I can start it from term but it would certainly be faster if I could do it from whiskers
[02:23] <RoadRunner|2> could you tell me how to set up a new entry in the Menu Editor for Samba?
[02:27] <RoadRunner|2> so to be sure, I don't need to edit either /etc/libuser.conf OR /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[02:55] <RoadRunner|2> GeekDude: ok, so I took some time off, rested my brain, had an apple and finally figured out how to make a new entry in Menu Editor for Samba and what you meant earlier about not "stricktly" needing gksu; but having to log in just to make a share is still a pain in the ass so if you can patch this thing to make it better, my hat goes off to you!
[03:11] <RoadRunner|2> GeekDude: stupid question: for the share to stay available Samba should keep running right? I just turned off Samba, turned off Win Explorer (on Win box), restarted it and could still sea and read my test file from the linux box.  Is this some weird magic or Samba can really be turned off and the share still stays shared on the network?
[03:46] <GeekDude> RoadRunner|2, Is the test file on the linux system or the windows system?
[03:48] <RoadRunner|2> GeekDude: the test file is on the linux system, samba is off and yet the win systems can see and read it
[03:49] <GeekDude> How did you turn off samba?
[03:50] <RoadRunner|2> don't remember now... prob just closed the window
[03:50] <GeekDude> system-config-samba is just an editor, the actual samba daemon stays running in the background indefinitely. To stop it you run the command "sudo service samba stop"
[03:51] <GeekDude> to repeat, system-config-samba is just a tool for editing the samba config files. Whether it's running or not does not reflect the actual state of the samba server/daemon
[03:52] <RoadRunner|2> would the Task Manager not show Samba if it is running?
[03:53] <GeekDude> I'm not sure
[03:53] <RoadRunner|2> I mean the actual Samba, not the sys conf editor
[03:53] <GeekDude> you can check if samba is running by using the terminal command "service samba status"
[03:55] <RoadRunner|2> you are right, nmbd and smbd are running
[03:55] <RoadRunner|2> so does samba start at boot?
[03:57] <RoadRunner|2> also, can the "service ... status" command be used to check if say PeerGuardian is running in the background?
[03:57] <GeekDude> samba does start at boot
[03:57] <GeekDude> I don't know what PeerGuardian is
[03:58] <RoadRunner|2> an ip blocking firewall
[03:58] <RoadRunner|2> which doesn't always show itself in the system tray or in the Task Manager (like Samba, it would seem)
[03:59] <GeekDude> I use ufw/gufw as my firewall
[04:00] <RoadRunner|2> in any case, were you serious about patching something to allow starting sys-conf-samba from whiskers?
[04:01] <GeekDude> I'd certainly like to try, but I have no idea how to. It'll be a learning experience
[04:02] <GeekDude> Right now, I just have it set as "sudo system-config-samba" with run in terminal enabled
[04:02] <GeekDude> Not too fancy, but it does work
[04:03] <GeekDude> There probably is a service name for PeerGuardian, though I have no idea what it would be
[04:04] <GeekDude> "service --status-all" should get you a list of all the services
[04:05] <RoadRunner|2> I followed your lead and did the same thing, so it does work as you said, but, again, I am surprised that such a main feature is handled in a such a cumbersome way
[04:06] <RoadRunner|2> for that matter, I don't understand why Samba with all its bells and whistles isn't just a part of the base install of U/Xubuntu?
[04:06] <GeekDude> Such a main feature as checking for running services?
[04:06] <GeekDude> Samba is really heavy
[04:06] <GeekDude> all things considered
[04:07] <GeekDude> Additionally, why should windows integration be a base part of Ubuntu?
[04:07] <RoadRunner|2> we may not like MS but windows isn't going away any time soon...
[04:09] <RoadRunner|2> :) we don't exist in a vacuum
[04:09] <RoadRunner|2> there may not be much inteligent life in the Win world but we do have to interact with it :)
[04:11] <GeekDude> I'd imagine most (normal) people don't have much reason to host windows shares on their linux desktop/laptops.
[04:13] <RoadRunner|2> and thank you for "service --status-all", I did find PeerGuardian there
[04:13] <RoadRunner|2> actually, a really big thank you for all your time and effort today !
[04:13] <GeekDude> :)
[04:19] <RoadRunner|2> on a diff subject, I don't suppose you use Cairo-Dock?
[04:25] <RoadRunner|2> in any case, time for me to get some sleep; again many thanks and good night
[05:28] <q342345675> https://yadi.sk/i/tqfgzShSo9MAa How relates to this?
[05:32] <xubuntu24i> If I don't plan to install Windows on my drive, is there any reason to use msdos over gpt for my partition table?
[05:40] <q342345675> This is the second update cannot update something related to btrfs. A previous failed attempt was last month, then it was written it is not possible to unmount the disk skipped.
[05:59] <q342345675> There is such a response. I don't fully understand because of the translation.> missing fsck.btrfs from initrd is in no way dangerous <> you do not need it unless something goes grong <> wrong <> and in that case most initrds offer very few means of recovery
[06:04] <q342345675> Errors are not visible after rebooting Xubuntu
[06:09] <q342345675> Answer <> I understood. With other software translation.
[11:54] <xubuntu1> Hi everyone
[11:54] <xubuntu1> i need help regarding a new installation of Xubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[11:54] <xubuntu1> with a not working Flash
[17:03] <Afdal> Hi can I get some help troubleshooting a wireless problem?
[17:03] <knome> ask the question and find out
[17:04] <Afdal> Yesterday I added the launchpad repository xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12/ubuntu trusty in order to upgrade my xfce to 4.12
[17:04] <Afdal> I performed a full package upgrade after that
[17:05] <Afdal> today I rebooted my computer to find that networkmanager is crashing when start up
[17:05] <Afdal> thus no internet
[17:06] <Afdal> I'm really not sure where to begin dealing with this problem
[17:07] <Afdal> looking at my package change history I see ibus-gtk was part of the large number of thinks I upgraded after adding that repository
[17:07] <Afdal> think that has something to do with this?
[17:08] <knome> ibus is related to input, not networking
[17:08] <Afdal> oh right
[17:08] <Afdal> this error involves dbus
[17:08] <Afdal> I just don't even know what to do here
[17:09] <Afdal> is /var/log/apport.log the right log file I should be looking at?
[17:11] <Afdal> looks like a new kernel image was part of this upgrade too
[17:12] <Afdal> I don't know why all this other stuff was contained in the /xfce-4.12/ repository, I just wanted to upgrade my xfce :(
[17:14] <knome> it wasn't; they were part of the upgrades you did
[17:14] <Afdal> did xubuntu 14.04 clear a ton of new stuff to its repository yesterday?
[17:14] <Afdal> because I'd done plenty of updates the previous days
[17:18] <Afdal> maybe I should ask this in #ubuntu >.>
[19:50] <ANTRAX-1> infomod@mod.go.jp - пусть мне бабок отдадут - черканите им плиз!!!
[20:49] <scrabcakes> how do you add pulseaudio to xfce panel?
[20:51] <xangua> scrabcakes: did you remove the menu indicator applet?
[20:51] <scrabcakes> xangua: do you mean the default volume icon?
[20:52] <xangua> scrabcakes: yes
[20:52] <scrabcakes> no it's still there, but it doesn't seem to work with pulseaudio
[20:53] <xangua> Did you do something with pulseaudio?
[20:53] <Pici> 47
[20:54] <knome> 49
[20:54] <knome> (what are we bidding for?)
[20:55] <scrabcakes> xangua: nope
[20:55] <xangua> Date with me, congrats
[20:55] <knome> xangua, you sure *you want to
[20:55] <knome> xangua, ...go date with *me*?
[21:01] <flocculant> ...
[21:32] <Se7> hi guys
[21:32] <Se7> got a problem with broken package
[21:33] <Se7> and not upgrade
[21:35] <Se7> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14861163/
[21:38] <Se7> thank  you :)
[22:08] <GeekDude> Note to self: never run `sudo apt-get purge numix-gtk-theme` again
[22:08] <GeekDude> I managed to wreck my gtk settings quite well
[22:12] <GeekDude> It appears that the latest version of the numix-gtk-theme from the numix ppa has a slight conflict with how remmina remote desktop renders. I figured I'd purge the package, remove the numix ppa, then reinstall the package. I regret my actions
[22:17] <GeekDude> well, gotta reboot to figure out why VT isn't enabled on my cpu
[22:32] <GeekDude> Nope, still not working
[22:32] <GeekDude> I can't find the setting for it either
[22:32] <GeekDude> Intel i7-550U processor
[22:33] <GeekDude> I'm not sure what kind of motherboard, it's a Lenovo ThinkPad E550 laptop
[22:33] <GeekDude> Brb, checking bios again
[22:40] <GeekDude> Ah, there we go. Apparently VT-d is a security setting, not a CPU setting
[22:40] <GeekDude> It has it's own subsection in the security page instead of the regular settings page
[22:56] <kryko> Trying to get vba-m installed and having issues
[23:28] <well_laid_lawn> kryko:  what sort of issues ?