[00:05] eluus: No big risk; worst-case scenario you just have to uninstall nautilus if it makes things wonky, package management makes all that generally nice and clean. [00:06] alright keithzg thanks [00:06] eluus: No problem, let us know if things don't go smoothly and we can try and work it out further. [00:08] keithzg: I've installed it and it says the system requires a restart, is this normal? [00:10] eluus: Not necessarily, but neither a reason to worry too much. I'd guess it's either (a) it pulled down some dependencies for some reason that caused changes (ex. to the splash screen) that will only take effect upon reboot, or perhaps more likely (b) there were some pending updates that were installed at the same time. [00:11] k [00:11] eluus: I'd say that, for what you're trying to do, you *shouldn't* have to reboot for things to work. === rww is now known as rw [01:36] edited unredirectfullscreen to true in kwinrc and now kwin is crashing repeatedly. i changed it back to false, but still getting an opengl composiing crash warning in the compositor module. [01:37] and changes to kwin in the modules are being ignored now === kubuntu is now known as Guest57868 [01:50] can anyone help me with otf fonts in 14.04? All the google results are saying fc-cache or use the GUI to install, but those don't work. I vaguely remember an ncurses interface similar to that for SSL certificates, but it's been ages. Trying to get the powerline fonts installed for vim [02:52] can anyone help me with otf fonts in 14.04? All the google results are saying fc-cache or use the GUI to install, but those don't work. I vaguely remember an ncurses interface similar to that for SSL certificates, but it's been ages. Trying to get the powerline fonts installed for vim [03:08] [03:09] hi. i'm still trying to get kubuntu working. i just tried to completely uninstall and reinstall, but now kinit segfaults on login, with no descriptive error message. can anyone help/ [03:10] bob2021: what exactly seems to be the issue? and you don't really "uninstall and reinstall" an OS, you just "reinstall," replacing what was there [03:10] bob2021: what was the previous issue before you tried this, leading to the new issue? [03:11] sporkwitch: i had a never-ending series of issues. that last set of issues were with kmail and online accounts. but it was one thing after another. someone in #kde suggested making sure i had the most recent minor version update. [03:13] sporkwitch: and what i did was to apt-remove, clean the cache, and then install kubuntu-full again [03:13] bob2021: would i be correct in assuming that this is basically a clean machine that you can safely nuke? If so, I'm inclined to say let's start from scratch and i'll help you as you go. Much easier than tracing back individual issues mixed with attempted fixes that didn't work / created new issues [03:14] SporkWitch I really don't want to nuke it. While its largely clean, I did put a lot of effort into getting a few things working [03:15] no disrespect, but just because you put a lot of effort in doesn't mean they ARE a lot of effort. You'll often find that while it's work the first time, once you've done it, it's minutes the next time. What were the issues you ran into and got fixed? [03:15] (I won't lie, i'm trying to be lazy here, because remote troubleshooting is hell lol) [03:16] SparkWitch: I don't mean a lot of effort into getting kubuntu working, i mean a lot of effort getting working a set of very complex deep learning libraries which are the reason i installed ubuntu to begin with. [03:16] it was about a week's work getting them to compile [03:16] ah [03:16] SporkWitch: Jumping back quite a bit, but did you ever get your font situation figured out? I'm surprised the GUI installation method isn't working (just lazily did it that way yesterday on my 14.04 desktop here), but you could always just go fully manual and copy to ~/.fonts or /usr/local/share/fonts [03:17] sporkwitch: you want to remote-desktop in? [03:17] or ssh? [03:18] keithzg: no. I ran into the same problem the last time I did a clean install, but I can't remember the fix. The font shows up in the GUI "fonts" menu, it gets seen by fc-cache, but the terminals (yakuake and konsole) don't actually use them, yet i know the fonts DO work in both terminals once they're installed "the right way" [03:18] and i can't seem to find the solution i found before in my googling [03:19] bob2021: what's the output of "tail /var/log/syslog" ? [03:19] it SHOULD have something relating to that crash [03:20] bob2021: If the problem is a crash upon login, maybe try installing an alternate environment? I always go for openbox, which is about as minimal as you can get, so that's always good as a fallback for retreating to and figuring things out. Admittedly, something like LXDE might be a better option depending on your level of experience. [03:20] keithzg: yeah, did the system route, no joy [03:20] SporkWitch: Hmm, interesting. [03:20] SporkWitch well right now it has more recent errors about my now being booted into Unity. But the last kdeinit messages were preparing to launch kconf_update and then PID terminated [03:20] keithzg: yeah. like i said, i ran into it last time too, no idea what's up. and i have rebooted a couple times, just to be safe [03:21] bob2021: kubuntu doesn't have unity... [03:21] keithzg: oh i can get into Unity fine. I'm in it now. But I like kubuntu. It was nice. [03:21] bob2021: Ah, I getcha. [03:21] SporkWitch: I installed kubuntu by apt installing kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu 15.10 [03:21] no wonder you've been running into problems... [03:22] it's a bit intense, but i say remove that set of packages and try to install JUST KDE [03:22] (or, ideally, start from kubuntu rather than ubuntu) [03:22] SporkWitch: that risks leaving me with a system that's completely GUI-broken though [03:22] i also recommend using LTS releases [03:22] Yeah - not using an LTS release was a mistake on my part. [03:22] bob2021: Does .xsession-errors have anything in it? [03:23] keithzg: there aren't timestamps, but i see a bunch about upstart complaining that the main process ended, and that its respawning too fast [03:24] bob2021: Hmm, that doesn't necessarily seem applicable . . . although wait. Upstart? Which release are you on? [03:24] keithzg: 15.10 he said [03:24] keithzg: 15.10 [03:24] yeah upstart shouldn't be doing anything at all right [03:25] keithzg: wait! there's an xsession-errors.old that has more in it [03:25] Well, it lingers around a bit AFAIK, since there are still some things that weren't ported, so maaaaybe that makes sense. But it does seem suspicious. [03:27] bob2021: Oh? Any promising leads? [03:27] keithzg: the xsession errors are not clearly understandable by me. It seems to begin with invalid pixmap, then a lot of no frame loaded, then qt session management error networkidlist argument is NULL [03:28] keithzg: at the end i get fatal IO Error: Client killed, sending SIGHUP to children, sending SIGTERM to children, then done [03:28] bob2021: Maybe throw it up at https://paste.kde.org/ just in case someone can make sense of it [03:30] https://paste.kde.org/pji378hlh [03:33] keithzg see anything in there? [03:33] or Sporkwitch? :) [03:35] keithzg and sporkwitch: I found in kern.log, it seems to be saying that kactivitymanger is segfaulting. is that likely the same? [03:36] bob2021: It's a bit above my pay grade, but a segfault seems like a likely culprit, ja [03:36] keithzg but in kactivitymanager? would that be reported as kinit5 crashing? [03:37] keithzg: actually i don't think it is the same. i think its more recent. there's a kwalletd5 segfault earlier [03:38] keithzg and a whole bunch of kded5 segfaults [03:39] see here: https://paste.kde.org/pvrtvwsks [03:41] bob2021: Yikes [03:43] is that a technical term? [03:43] bob2021: hah, yup, very technical [03:43] it seems to me, keithzg, that it means there's a bad library version incompatibility somewhere. [03:44] if you look at the timestamps, you'll see that there are two attempts to load kinit after i did the reinstall [03:44] the first failure is kactivitymanage [03:45] and almost all of the segfaults relate to libxcb [03:45] bob2021: Hmm. What graphics drivers are you running on that machine? [03:46] keithzg actually i may just have found an answer (only because of your diagnostic suggestions): http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=124557 [03:46] let me give it a try... [03:46] bob2021: Fingers crossed! [03:47] acutally when i try to remove just libqt5x11extras5, it wants to remove 244 packages with it! [03:48] bob2021: What does "apt-cache policy libqt5x11extras5" say? [03:49] keithzg it says version 5.5.1-1 is installed, and 5.4.2-2 is what's available from the ubuntu repo [03:50] is it possible that means its from a repo I had turned off? that would explain everything... [03:51] yes that is the answer... it should be at version 5.4.2, not 5.5.1. can you advise how to make sure i pull out every one of these wrong-repo packages and reinstall from right-repo? [03:55] bob2021: With a tiny bit of scripting that shouldn't be hard . . . I once had to just reinstall every package on my system because I had done a version upgrade with RAM that had started to go bad! I forget offhand how to recursively reinstall, however, hmm. [03:56] keithzg i think there are two issues. one is to identify the packages that need reinstalling, because they came from a repo that's no longer around so it needs to use an older version. the other is to reinstall all of them simultaneously [03:59] someone wrote a ppa-purge package... [03:59] bob2021: Even just simply passing every package name to "apt install" should get the simultaneously part done, at least. [04:01] ppa-purge might be the simplest solution if your issue is packages you got from a PPA though, yeah [04:03] keithzg: it didn't get everything. i downgraded that one package manually just now, but i feel like there must still be stuff there [04:03] let me try it though... [04:03] back in 5... [04:13] hey guys - thanks for all your help -- that did resolve the crash [04:13] i have a suspicion its also going to resolve my other issues. lets find out... [04:20] bob2021: That's great news :) [04:20] well except it didn't fix kmail :p [04:20] it may have fixed Online Accounts, but now i don't have the options for facebook, linkedin, etc. at all anymore? [04:30] am i wrong in thinking that packages described as "GNOME control center account plugins" WILL work with kubuntu [07:52] moooorning [07:52] does anybody have information, that ktimetracker will be migrated to lates kde? [07:54] yes [08:51] Good morning. === bufalo_1973 is now known as bufalo1973 === bufalo1973 is now known as bufalo_1973 [08:56] good morning [11:38] 'Morning folks [11:46] hi there [11:46] how do i make dolphin show previews for video files like mp4 [11:47] the files play fine with smplayer === _zxq9_ is now known as zxq9 === afx237_ is now known as afx237 [12:23] silv3r_m00n, don't think dolphin has media player capability any more [12:52] Hmm. So - why did VLC stop working again. Plasma 5.5.3 ... [12:52] BluesKaj: Any clue ? [12:52] Smurphy,let me check [12:54] Smurphy, vlc seems fine here, but I'm on 16.04 plasma 5.5.4 [12:59] How do u get plasma 5.5.4? [12:59] Does it come with xenial updates? [13:30] BluesKaj: Must be the issue. Can't Upgrade to 16.04 yet. [13:30] Smurphy, think plsama 5.5.4 is available for 15.10 [13:32] where ? I am subscribed to the new repos... usually [13:34] I'll check it out later. Have to go onto the threadmill if IO want to be able to walk tomorrow ... :} [13:35] Smurphy, it's not in the backports yet , but there is a ppa if you're interested, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma === juboxi is now known as juboxi_ [13:36] I'll chekc it. Thx. === tom_ is now known as Guest23956 === juboxi_ is now known as jubodreizehn === tom____ is now known as Guest23956 [14:43] Hi, how do I get dual monitors going for kubuntu? [14:44] hi fathom, just connect second one :) === christoph is now known as Guest89515 [14:45] soee, Is that it? [14:45] Golly. [14:45] pretty much, you can then play with some options in System Settings -> Display Settings [14:45] soee, Those don't work [14:45] hey guys [14:45] wher eyou can define if they shoudl have cloned content or separate [14:46] hiho daniel === daniel is now known as Guest84107 [14:46] soee, Nope, greyed out [14:46] i want to ask about my new kubuntu [14:46] can i make mey icons large [14:47] icons where ? [14:47] desctop [14:47] fathom: greyed out what exactly ? [14:47] i cant uderstand [14:47] Guest84107: right click on the desktop and check what options you have there :) [14:47] Well, actually, none of the options you mentioned exist anymore [14:48] In some bygone version of kubuntu, it used to be the case [14:48] huh ? [14:48] System settings, display and monitor, it used to be easy enough to set up. But no such option exists any longer [14:48] Guest84107: right click on teh desktop -> Desktop Settins and there shoudl be opyion to manipulate sizes [14:48] i have icon settings and defult desctop options [14:49] fathom: what Kubuntu version are you running ? [14:49] 14.04 [14:49] same [14:50] but i cant find this [14:50] ah than sorry, can't help her emuch. I'm on 16.04 [14:50] If the icons are displayed inside a plasmoid you need to unlock plasmoids first, then rightlick the folder view plasmoid and go into settings there to change icon size [14:50] That's on 4.x [14:51] They got dual monitors in version 16 [14:52] the Display Setting is Plasma 5 module but it shoudl be in KDE 4 also i think [14:52] Only XFCE seems to have a dual monitor option [14:52] In Ubuntu, at least [14:53] Guest84107: What I wrote was directed towards you btw ^ [14:53] I check it out once in a blue moon [14:53] for first time i use different OS from win and i'm inlove to this KDE [14:53] fathom: this is how it looks on Plasma 5: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/02/04/snapshot5.png [14:53] Guest84107: install 15.10 imo [14:54] Ahh, well. [14:54] how i can update [14:54] soee: why would you do that instead of just wait for 16.04 to be released and do-release-upgrade [14:54] as 14.04 -> 15.10 is not a supported upgrade path [14:54] thanks [14:55] I have an ati radeon apu and graphics card [14:57] I think the new slackware is coming out soon, they might have that issue fixed [14:58] Lah dee dah [14:59] Back to another gui [15:26] need help updating, [15:26] need help telling to ask question. [15:27] This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided [15:27] well did you provide the sudo/root password [15:28] this comes up when i run u[dates [15:28] using muon [15:29] being trying to figure this out for ages searching different posts and trying different thinks [15:29] yammagamma: once you click Install Updates in Muon you are asked for a password, the system password is required to continue. [15:31] when i click install updates. a mark additional changes box comes up [15:32] when i click ok i get the error Authentication error [15:34] i dont get asked for any password [15:37] Have you seen my weiner? [15:39] any1 able to help [15:39] yammagamma: you can try running muon with sudo/root [15:39] in a terminal window ? [15:39] you'd need to open a terminal, yes === _zxq9_ is now known as zxq9 [15:40] kdesudo [15:40] not regular sudo [15:41] there's a special sudo for kde now? [15:41] what do i type to run muon as kdesudo [15:41] There always has been [15:42] huh, never knew that [15:42] If you run graphical apps with regular sudo it can result in problems by changing permissions on files that app uses to root user [15:42] yammagamma, your user password [15:42] kdesudo prevents this [15:43] thats what i reckon happenned to me maybe [15:43] Finetundar: kdesudo is a GUI version of sudo with Qt. GTK/GNOME also has the same option with gksudo [15:43] as didnt know about kdesudo [15:45] yammagamma: and to run anything with kdesudo you just prefix it with that === yaos is now known as kenami [15:45] kdesudo muon-updater [15:46] kdesudo kate [15:46] etc [15:46] XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root' Invalid pixmap specified. Invalid pixmap specified. No frame loaded No frame loaded No frame loaded No frame loaded No frame loaded No frame loaded No frame loaded No frame loaded No frame loaded [15:49] yea that is a bug I was afraid you might run into, it is being worked on now but no estimate as to when it will be done. There is an easy workaround though [15:49] still coming up with This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided [15:49] kdesudo -c "KDE_SESSION_VERSION=5 KDE_FULL_SESSION=true dbus-launch muon-updater" [15:49] that will fix the XDG_RUNTIME_DIR issue [15:50] when the bug is solved those environmental options won't be needed [15:51] the old rule, never open a gui app with sudo [15:53] BluesKaj: that's true but only relates to the non-gui based sudo [15:53] that command just made my 2 desktops swap around, ie everything on right monitor jumped over to left and vise versa [15:54] BluesKaj: well file managers probably shouldnt be launched with sudo regardless I suppose since they could do weird mounting side effects [15:54] yammagamma: that command would not do that. It sounds like your issue is much larger than just authorization issues [15:55] how long have you been running this current install of kubuntu? [15:55] MichaelTunnell, I never launch gui apps with sudo , always kdesudo if there's no other way [15:55] found error while replying QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied", "") auth error reply! kdeinit5: PID 2567 terminated. [15:56] yammagamma, which Kubuntu version ? [15:56] 15.10 [15:56] did you install muon or are you using muon discover [15:57] BluesKaj: yea I agree with not using normal sudo, that's what I was saying. file managers could have weird side effects either way though [15:57] muon update manager [16:00] even when i click the k symbol down left corner no file system no desktop it all disappeared [16:01] any other ideas [16:03] do you meajn the kmenu/kicker? [16:04] yea [16:04] yammagamma, look in the kmenu>applications>system [16:04] why have my destops switched around,ahhh === scorpion57 is now known as canalreporter [16:08] i have system setting open [16:09] not system settings ..itapplications>system>muon [16:11] muon discover or muon package manager ? [16:12] also i cant turn off system without first logging off, that option disappeared as well [16:14] yammagamma, depends what you're looking for [16:15] just to keep system upto date [16:15] but neither wont let me [16:15] disappeared from where? [16:15] the kmenu [16:16] yammagamma, do you know how to use the terminal? [16:16] yea [16:16] konsole [16:16] recommend you update and upgrade there [16:18] thats what ive been doing thinking updating or upgrading will fix the muon update manager error [16:20] yammagamma: try running this in konsole [16:20] sudo apt upgrade [16:21] yammagamma, don't pay attention to the update manager error , it's a known bug , being worked on === r is now known as Guest53792 === Guest53792 is now known as RamchandraApte [16:22] but i cant mount an external drive as saying not authorizied [16:23] yammagamma: did you successfully update in konsole? [16:23] its still updating [16:24] once update is finished , run sudo apt upgrade [16:24] this error i have since early 14. and upgraded to 15. but error stayed [16:26] what error, the update manager? [16:27] Hi Folks: Having a problem with KPIM. It worked in 14.10, but when I upgraded to 15.04 the akonadi server wont start, and this has persisted through the upgrade to 15.10 -- any suggetions? [16:28] yea and authorisation when connecting a external usb drive i says it cant mount it [16:30] !fstab | yammagamma [16:30] yammagamma: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [16:31] it used to all work dandy [16:35] im downloading a fresh iso image of 15.10 and might do a fresh install as been a few years since wiped drive hope to get rid off these errors [16:36] thanks guys for your help [16:40] not in the mood for holding hands today anyway === carlo is now known as Guest54842 === sandroandrade_ is now known as sandroandrade === paulovap_ is now known as paulovap [18:45] is it possible to take the hard drive from one laptop, and put it into another laptop (same model, same specs, same everything) without messing up my install? [18:45] esp. if there's a windows partition? [18:46] denza242: i think its ok [18:46] hmm, shallwe you sure? [18:46] same hardware, sure. [18:46] well its work with my computer [18:50] denza242, it should work [18:59] BluesKaj: even if there's a windows partition :x? [19:06] denza242, there might be a product key problem with windows unless the machine is later than W8 when they began storing it in thrhr UEFI/BIOS , otherwise I can't see a problem, but I'm no Windows guru either :_) [19:06] BluesKaj: fair enough [19:06] or was it W7 , not sure [19:11] on an unrelated note [19:11] is there any way to make a device output to /dev/null? === jubo2 is now known as Dr_Suomi [19:14] denza242, this might help, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/119648/redirecting-to-dev-null [19:17] BluesKaj: can I delete /dev/input/mouse2? [19:17] denza242, dunno , genii might know [19:18] BBL [19:18] kk [19:20] well genii :x? [19:20] denza242: Could you pastebin the entire dmesg output for me to look through? [19:24] denza242: eg: dmesg | pastebinit [19:24] https://paste.kde.org/pqzcwpunl/ldfxqo [19:24] Then give the link [19:24] Reading :) [19:28] denza242: What happened before when you just blacklisted the synapics driver in /etc/modprobe.d/ ? [19:28] genii: I didn't blacklist it [19:28] since when I tried, it still happened [19:31] denza242: Please pastebin results of sudo lshw [19:31] ( I'd give the -C something to isolate to the mouse but not sure what category it falls into) [19:32] This way we can see what pointing device is using what drivers [19:47] genii: psmouse [19:49] genii: however as I said, even if I remove psmouse, it still spams stuff === ofer is now known as thevoyeurofme [19:53] Likely then the raw hardware errors [19:53] yep [19:57] denza242: An interesting problem, let me think a bit more on it [19:57] genii: I might have a fix though [19:57] replacement laptop [19:57] Hehe === balrog_ is now known as Guest43917 [20:41] installed the kubuntu ppa for 15.03 yesterday. Updated with no problem. The 'search' feature in dolphin still does not work (ie. timeline://yesterday). [20:42] I'm really unlucky or is that supposed to work (iirc I never saw it working) out of the box? [20:42] 15.04 went EOL today, 4th feb [20:42] !vivid [20:42] Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) was the 22nd release of Ubuntu. Support ended on February 4, 2016. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/vivid [20:44] *15.08 [20:46] 15.08? no such version, i guess you have 15.10 === Saturn286 is now known as Saturn812 === amichair_ is now known as amichair === francoisl is now known as acroban [23:25] Hello all... I'm looking for some assistance with getting Kubuntu booting on my new setup. I have installed Kubuntu from Live CD (15.10) to a Samsung EVO 850 512MB SSD. All installed well, but when I restart and change boot order to SSD it gets to a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left corner. [23:25] I have read various solutions but not found a consistent common thread. Any ideas to why this is occuring and why I can't boot? === TheMaster is now known as Unit193